| M4rtinK | yeah, that resource framework needs some work | 00:00 |
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| artemma | M4rtinK: I understand their reasons | 00:00 |
| artemma | and that they have limited hands | 00:00 |
| M4rtinK | IIRC, there is not even a QML interface yet | 00:00 |
| M4rtinK | at least in production | 00:00 |
| artemma | well, building a public platform isn't easy | 00:00 |
| M4rtinK | yep | 00:00 |
| artemma | they may or may not be fast enough | 00:00 |
| artemma | ah, I explictly stop acquiring permissions when app is minimized permissions sometimes | 00:01 |
| artemma | never mind | 00:01 |
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| M4rtinK | well, I have seen A LOT of people with Jollas on the conference | 00:01 |
| M4rtinK | so they seem to have a lot of good will in the FOSS community at least | 00:01 |
| M4rtinK | when you think about it | 00:01 |
| artemma | there are a little more than 12K devices in hands at the moment | 00:02 |
| M4rtinK | there are really no alternatives to the N900 - N9 & Jolla family | 00:02 |
| M4rtinK | if you want a device that offers both everyday usage & high hackability | 00:02 |
| artemma | FOSS support is great, yet Jolla's survival IMO depends 95% on operators, just as any other phone manufacturer survival | 00:02 |
| M4rtinK | well | 00:03 |
| M4rtinK | I hate operators | 00:03 |
| artemma | or on a client for Sailfish who would have own sales channel | 00:03 |
| M4rtinK | at least those that don't accept theit role as a dumb pipe | 00:03 |
| M4rtinK | *their | 00:03 |
| * artemma is not excited about operators either, but that's where the mobile phone world money are | 00:03 | |
| M4rtinK | yeah | 00:03 |
| M4rtinK | but then you can just do another Android skin | 00:04 |
| M4rtinK | no need to do something innovative if you let yourself to be dragged down by those telco monsters | 00:04 |
| artemma | oh, there's lots of desire for a platform that will actually let operators differentiate | 00:04 |
| artemma | hence Sailfish, Tizen and Firefox, and Ubuntu mobile | 00:05 |
| M4rtinK | see how the operators are negatively affecting the Firefox OS phones | 00:05 |
| artemma | MSFT was right, operatos just couldn't do it with Windows | 00:05 |
| M4rtinK | for the matter | 00:05 |
| M4rtinK | I don't think I saw a single FFOS fone on FOSDEM | 00:05 |
| M4rtinK | but like every second guy had a Jolla | 00:05 |
| M4rtinK | well, some had two or more :) | 00:06 |
| M4rtinK | well, considering what crap the new mobile windows are :) | 00:06 |
| M4rtinK | you can't polish a turd that easily | 00:06 |
| * artemma thinks biggest and hugest WP problem is that MSFT owns skype. Everything else is a problem too, but Skype fact they cannot overcome | 00:07 | |
| M4rtinK | anyway, good night :) | 00:09 |
| artemma | good night | 00:09 |
| M4rtinK | really late now :D | 00:10 |
| M4rtinK | bye :) | 00:10 |
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| niqt | morning | 08:09 |
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| stephg | morning! | 08:55 |
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| sledges | greetings! | 09:22 |
| lbt | o/ | 09:27 |
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| xavinux | hi people | 10:38 |
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| sledges | hi xavinux! | 11:39 |
| xavinux | hi sledges how are you | 11:39 |
| sledges | very well, happy met many nemoers in fosdem :) | 11:40 |
| sledges | and ou? | 11:40 |
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| sledges | you | 11:41 |
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