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| ryukafalz | seadot looked interesting, but the fact that everything's in german made it kinda hard to find info | 02:13 |
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| ryukafalz | if I could run that on my nexus 7 though that'd be cool | 02:13 |
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| sledges | g00d morning | 10:01 |
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| faenil | sledges, moo/ | 10:05 |
| sledges | \m/ | 10:07 |
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| rcg | hey :) | 10:50 |
| fk_lx | rcg: hi | 10:56 |
| alin | any progress on nemo on nexus 5? | 11:00 |
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| sledges | alin: all-purpose instructions being prepared | 11:24 |
| alin | sledges: cool... see the jolla video on nexus 4 | 11:25 |
| alin | sledges: i can give it a spin once comes out | 11:25 |
| sledges | great! | 11:26 |
| alin | sledges: so one shall expect the basics working? internet and gps | 11:27 |
| alin | maybe even some legacy features like calls/sms? | 11:28 |
| sledges | in theory, everything will work | 11:29 |
| sledges | in practice: depends on people's(community( passion and time contributed | 11:30 |
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| alin | sledges: ok that is normal... | 11:39 |
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| New_user | Hello there I am new to nemo/mer/zypher and would like to start hacking on it. I am a little bit confused about the sdk and setting it up on my machine. I am a Qt/C++/QML developer that Would like to try this out. thanks for your time. I am installing the vdi image right now to a virtual box . | 15:18 |
| New_user | Is there a qtcreator version for the sdk kit ? | 15:19 |
| New_user | where I am confused is here https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Wayland_Nemo_VM_Image where it says | 15:20 |
| New_user | A working Mer SDK setup is required. If you have not installed Mer SDK yet, read Mer Platform SDK guide until the "Basic Tasks" section (excluded). | 15:20 |
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| New_user | I keep on getting the error | 15:22 |
| New_user | Error: Image format 'None' isn't supported. Supported formats: fs, livecd, liveusb, loop, ubi, jffs2, raw, vmdk, vdi, mrstnand, nand | 15:22 |
| New_user | this is when I run sudo mic create raw mer-next-sdk-rolling-vm.ks -o . --pkgmgr=zypp --arch i486 | 15:23 |
| New_user | Is there a special mic that I need or some build deps ? | 15:25 |
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| New_user | git checkout mer error: pathspec 'mer' did not match any file(s) known to git. | 15:54 |
| New_user | will not build with qt5.2 trying 5.1 | 15:58 |
| New_user | will not build with qt5.1 either keeps on trying to pull in qtsingleapplication which if I am right was used for qt4 | 15:59 |
| faenil | New_user, sorry I'm a bit busy at the moment, I can try help you in the evening :) (i.e. 3-4h) | 16:00 |
| faenil | where do you get the error 'None' isn't supported though? | 16:01 |
| faenil | New_user, and welcome to Nemomobile :) | 16:01 |
| New_user | faenil, when trying to build the images from the kickstarter files | 16:01 |
| faenil | so you have Mer SDK setup already? | 16:02 |
| New_user | yeah faenil if we could set up a meeting time that would be real cool. I think that you will like what I have to offer on the qt dide of things | 16:02 |
| New_user | faenil, no | 16:02 |
| faenil | New_user, ok, so where are you running mic? :) | 16:02 |
| faenil | New_user, cool to know you have something to offer :) we're always looking for new contributors :) | 16:02 |
| New_user | from a bash terminal emulator | 16:03 |
| faenil | yes but on your host ? | 16:03 |
| New_user | oh Ubuntu 140.04 | 16:03 |
| faenil | that command should be run inside Mer SDK | 16:03 |
| New_user | 14.04 * | 16:03 |
| faenil | but you said you don't have it :) | 16:03 |
| New_user | correct | 16:03 |
| faenil | did you try following Mer SDK guide that I point to in that tutorial? | 16:03 |
| New_user | I think that I may have a different version of mic that could be messing things up | 16:04 |
| New_user | yes I have read the wiki | 16:04 |
| faenil | ok, so where did you get stuck while setting up mersdk? | 16:04 |
| New_user | I can not install the qtcreator nor can I build the image from kickstarter. from this page https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Image_Creation | 16:05 |
| New_user | and here https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Wayland_Nemo_VM_Image | 16:05 |
| faenil | A working Mer SDK setup is required. If you have not installed Mer SDK yet, read Mer Platform SDK guide until the "Basic Tasks" section (excluded). | 16:06 |
| faenil | did you follow the link in that sentence? | 16:06 |
| New_user | yeah | 16:07 |
| faenil | ok, so where did you get stuck while following the Mer SDK link | 16:07 |
| New_user | but I think I went wrong with the excludes part and just tried to start there | 16:07 |
| New_user | right now I am downloading a tar file from here in the setup https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK#Mer_platform_SDK | 16:08 |
| New_user | Installation / setup * | 16:08 |
| faenil | yes, you need to follow that guide | 16:08 |
| faenil | *until* Basic tasks section, which is *not* needed | 16:08 |
| New_user | yeah I must have been on empty with the coffee and missed that | 16:10 |
| New_user | looks like things are starting to work out | 16:10 |
| * sledges jumps in | 16:10 | |
| New_user | \o/ Entering chroot as MYAWESOME_USER_NAME MerSDK me@mycomputer:~$ | 16:11 |
| sledges | \o/ | 16:11 |
| faenil | New_user, ok cool :) | 16:12 |
| New_user | faenil, what me to bump up the creator to 3.0 ? | 16:12 |
| faenil | New_user, spoiler: I don't use QtCreator when developing stuff for Nemo, so I don't know much about its Nemo compatibility, sledges and locusf may know more about that | 16:12 |
| faenil | I use command line as I think it's less hassle :) | 16:13 |
| New_user | what up sledges :) | 16:13 |
| sledges | command line will sure work | 16:13 |
| sledges | New_user: welcome :) | 16:13 |
| New_user | thanks | 16:13 |
| New_user | this is some cool stuff right here | 16:13 |
| New_user | wayland and qt5 ! WHOO Hoo | 16:13 |
| sledges | goodness | 16:13 |
| faenil | New_user, finally someone who appreciates :D | 16:13 |
| faenil | New_user, btw, you might want to run "sudo sdk-version --latest --go" in the sdk to update the packages | 16:14 |
| New_user | heck yeah I love qt and wayland is like a extra bonus | 16:14 |
| New_user | faenil, in chroot ? | 16:14 |
| faenil | yep | 16:14 |
| New_user | thansk | 16:14 |
| faenil | then you can continue the Nemo VM tutorial :) | 16:14 |
| New_user | faenil, can not connect to repo.pub.meego.com need to add to host ? | 16:15 |
| faenil | New_user, https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK#Workaround_for_.22Couldn.27t_resolve_host_.27repo.pub.meego.com.27.22 | 16:16 |
| New_user | Sweet | 16:17 |
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| New_user | yup 177 updates | 16:17 |
| New_user | this is awesome systemmd and not libupstart ! | 16:19 |
| faenil | :) | 16:20 |
| New_user | faenil, ping me when you are not busy. we should def talk. this is good because it gives me time to test things and come up with ideas. like gui installer and what not. | 16:20 |
| faenil | sure :) but if you have questions ask away, sledges is always active ;) and there a lot of other cool guys here ;) | 16:21 |
| faenil | just they're busy from time to time with their fulltime jobs :) | 16:21 |
| New_user | sweet thanks again all | 16:21 |
| New_user | I hear that | 16:21 |
| faenil | np, glad to see such enthusiasm :) | 16:22 |
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| New_user | faenil, I am going to rock this once I understand it | 16:23 |
| faenil | great :) | 16:23 |
| faenil | New_user, is this your nickname btw? | 16:24 |
| New_user | not sure that I have one | 16:24 |
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| New_user | I have a question about this command VBoxManage convertfromraw ./mic-output/nemo-i486-vm-wayland-sda.raw ./nemoWayland.vdi --format VDI | 16:51 |
| sledges | fire away | 16:51 |
| New_user | the part "./nemoWayland.vdi" this is what I am going to name the vdi file ? | 16:52 |
| sledges | yes | 16:52 |
| New_user | sweet thanks | 16:52 |
| sledges | np :) | 16:52 |
| New_user | sledges, what do you think about a gui tool to set this all up ? | 16:56 |
| New_user | like a qml application that uses something like QProcess | 16:56 |
| New_user | as a declaritive plugin that is | 16:57 |
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| sledges | there already is one written in python iirc | 16:57 |
| New_user | Oo | 16:57 |
| sledges | but for another flavour of this sdk - the sailfish one | 16:57 |
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| sledges | TIMTOWTDI | 17:01 |
| sledges | you can have chroot sdk | 17:01 |
| sledges | or you can run it in a vm | 17:01 |
| sledges | vm approach works also on other operating systems | 17:01 |
| New_user | Ok so I have converted the wayland image to vdi but had to use sudo but now I am having permissions issues when adding to VBox. Before I change the permissions or users I just want to get feedback as to what they should be thanks. | 17:02 |
| sledges | VBox can run as simple user | 17:03 |
| sledges | chown is fine | 17:03 |
| New_user | I guess that I should just chane the user and not the permissions................ Cool thanks again sledges | 17:03 |
| sledges | welcome, we keep rockin' :) | 17:04 |
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| New_user | hey sledges not sure if I have a working image I may need to build again. I am not seeing any fingertip on the top left to open a bash emulator just a grey screen ..... taking screen shot | 17:12 |
| sledges | did you set the videomode? | 17:12 |
| sledges | with VBoxManage | 17:12 |
| sledges | from wiki | 17:12 |
| New_user | yup | 17:13 |
| New_user | http://i.imgur.com/WOmHLmf.png | 17:13 |
| New_user | I will try again to set the VideoMode | 17:14 |
| New_user | maybe I did a typo | 17:14 |
| sledges | note, that this is not MerSDK - it's a Nemo Mobile Emulator | 17:14 |
| New_user | yeah that is just the name that I choose for the vbox vdi stuff I will rename :) | 17:16 |
| sledges | oki :) | 17:16 |
| New_user | Here is the command that I entered in for the videomode | 17:17 |
| New_user | VBoxManage setextradata "MerSDK" CustomVideoModel "480x854x32" | 17:17 |
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| sledges | it's CustomVideoMode1 | 17:17 |
| New_user | dang typos | 17:17 |
| sledges | a common one :) | 17:18 |
| New_user | \o/ | 17:19 |
| sledges | \o/ | 17:19 |
| New_user | This is so friking AWESOME ! | 17:19 |
| ZogG_laptop | sup | 17:19 |
| sledges | New_user: it is! | 17:20 |
| sledges | hi ZogG_laptop | 17:20 |
| faenil | New_user, awesome :) | 17:21 |
| ZogG_laptop | sledges: btw are you working on nexus port? or you just wanted to show the prove of concept ? | 17:21 |
| ZogG_laptop | faenil: i got the device | 17:21 |
| faenil | ZogG_laptop, wohoo! | 17:21 |
| sledges | ZogG_laptop: it's being worked on | 17:21 |
| sledges | ZogG_laptop: congrats! | 17:21 |
| ZogG_laptop | sledges: officially you mean? | 17:21 |
| New_user | Now I want to start Hacking on the QML components and what not. Where is the source sor that kinda stuff. git=torious ? | 17:22 |
| ZogG_laptop | faenil: i dont get why at phone the round parts are at sideas and top and bottom falt and other half is oppostie | 17:22 |
| ZogG_laptop | i can't stand my phone straight :) | 17:22 |
| faenil | ZogG_laptop, design :) | 17:22 |
| sledges | New_user: https://github.com/nemomobile | 17:22 |
| ZogG_laptop | faenil: i get it, but it's not nice imho | 17:22 |
| New_user | Im on it ! | 17:22 |
| faenil | ZogG_laptop, well, is this a news to you? | 17:23 |
| sledges | New_user: launch an app (like messages), see if it's oddly transparent though ;P | 17:23 |
| sledges | it's a bug | 17:23 |
| ZogG_laptop | and btw the usb charger on top is not a smart thing as most cables goes from bottom | 17:23 |
| sledges | there's a workaround | 17:23 |
| New_user | yeah I do see that | 17:23 |
| ZogG_laptop | faenil: yes it's new | 17:23 |
| New_user | some sorta render issue | 17:23 |
| New_user | also testing the qml comonents is also like that. Some thing with QWindow ? | 17:23 |
| sledges | New_user: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing#i486-vm | 17:23 |
| sledges | qtwayland on vm | 17:24 |
| ZogG_laptop | usb i knew but today i realized that i can't talk while on cable as it would ruin or cable or plug on phone because of T(symbol in physics as i don't know the name) | 17:24 |
| ZogG_laptop | faenil: i liked TOH material | 17:24 |
| ZogG_laptop | and phone material is nice | 17:24 |
| ZogG_laptop | faenil: our desinger told that he loved logo ( wanted to steal my stickers) but didn't like the font on "i'm the first" | 17:28 |
| faenil | ZogG_laptop, yeah that's not ideal | 17:31 |
| ZogG_laptop | i don't really mind actually as i understand the idea aspecially together with t-shirt | 17:31 |
| ZogG_laptop | faenil: weird but it doesn't see any wlan here | 17:32 |
| ZogG_laptop | gonna reboot | 17:32 |
| faenil | ZogG_laptop, o.O | 17:32 |
| ZogG_laptop | recieved file over bluetooth before | 17:32 |
| ZogG_laptop | maybe related (saw on TJC) | 17:32 |
| faenil | ah wait | 17:32 |
| faenil | are you using the pulley menu in the wifi screen? | 17:32 |
| ZogG_laptop | i was able to connect before | 17:32 |
| ZogG_laptop | yes | 17:32 |
| faenil | ah ok | 17:32 |
| ZogG_laptop | i love the led | 17:33 |
| ZogG_laptop | but its too small | 17:33 |
| ZogG_laptop | in the view of practicle | 17:33 |
| ZogG_laptop | hope it's seen good in darkness | 17:33 |
| ZogG_laptop | ha | 17:35 |
| ZogG_laptop | reboot heleped but i can't connect | 17:35 |
| ZogG_laptop | i get error with no description | 17:35 |
| ZogG_laptop | can connect to any network except home | 17:36 |
| sledges | New_user: also updating wouldn't hurt :) | 17:36 |
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| sledges | even better than when opacity workaround applied | 17:38 |
| sledges | as that one should be last bit you do | 17:38 |
| ZogG_laptop | ha i can't connect to home wifi :P | 17:38 |
| faenil | ZogG_laptop, are you already running last fw? | 17:41 |
| faenil | 1.0.2.5 | 17:42 |
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| sledges | :) | 17:45 |
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| faenil | New_user, I'm available | 17:58 |
| New_user | sweet. I am now setting up sb2, I guess one of the things that I would like to talk about is deploying code to the VM and what toolkit I should use as far as qt | 17:59 |
| New_user | maybe I just need to add the qmake binary from the chroot dir to my version of qtcreator and add targets to build on the VM | 18:00 |
| New_user | so that I am building against the correct version of Qt. | 18:01 |
| faenil | New_user, I do "mb build -t <targetname> <specfile>" | 18:01 |
| faenil | that produces the rpm, which I then install on the VM | 18:01 |
| faenil | (I haven't used VM in months though) | 18:01 |
| New_user | so you deploy to device a rpm | 18:02 |
| New_user | after built in chroot with mb . | 18:02 |
| faenil | yeah | 18:02 |
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| faenil | or I just scp the binary over | 18:03 |
| faenil | which is even less hassle :) | 18:03 |
| faenil | (that is, if you only have to change the bin ofc :p) | 18:03 |
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| New_user | yeah I am going to have to set up qtcreator because that is what I am happy with. That is just me though as a developer. | 18:04 |
| New_user | I figure if I add the compiler and the versions of qmake to my qtcreator and then have it push code to the emulator and build there or make a deb then push.... not sure | 18:05 |
| New_user | s|deb|rpm | 18:06 |
| faenil | New_user, locusf did the qtcreator setup for VM already, but I don't remember details | 18:06 |
| New_user | I guess the issue at this point is to compile the qtcreator that you are talking about. | 18:06 |
| sledges | locusf made nemo target for sailfish's qtcreator | 18:07 |
| New_user | or to figure out what version of qt was used to compile that sailfish emulator | 18:07 |
| sledges | it needs modifications to qtcreator itself to make it mer friendly | 18:08 |
| sledges | and sailfish haz it | 18:08 |
| faenil | New_user, you'd better just install SailfishSDK | 18:08 |
| faenil | and use the qtcreator from there | 18:09 |
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| sledges | http://locusf.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/adding-armv7hl-target-to-sailfish-sdk.html | 18:09 |
| sledges | (start reading where strikethrough ends) | 18:09 |
| New_user | sledges, yeah I could take the git branch that is used in the wiki and fix. faenil I have that installed already | 18:09 |
| New_user | will try that | 18:09 |
| New_user | Is there a version of gcc that is installed to srv/nemo ? | 18:18 |
| sledges | under /opt/ | 18:18 |
| sledges | crosscompilers | 18:18 |
| New_user | thanks | 18:21 |
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| New_user | I got it to work from my qtcreator that is version 3.0 using the GCC that is installed using zypper to install qt5-qmake and add that. then I made a generic linux device that is routed to my virtual box . works ! | 18:42 |
| faenil | cool :) it gets console output in qtcreator as well? :) | 18:43 |
| New_user | yeah but it is not as good as I hope. more hacking. | 18:46 |
| faenil | :) | 18:46 |
| faenil | New_user, don't forget to write something so that others can reproduce :) ideally in wiki | 18:47 |
| New_user | faenil, I will port the qtcreator sdk if needed | 18:48 |
| New_user | and release it in a offline or online format | 18:48 |
| New_user | using build installer | 18:48 |
| faenil | New_user, no please, not one more qtcreator :( | 18:48 |
| New_user | lol | 18:48 |
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| sledges | faenil: ? | 18:51 |
| faenil | sledges, ? | 18:51 |
| sledges | 18:48 <@faenil> New_user, no please, not one more qtcreator :( | 18:51 |
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| faenil | yeah, the world is already full of customized qtcreators... | 18:51 |
| faenil | let's not make the situation any worse | 18:52 |
| New_user | yeah it is | 18:52 |
| sledges | he was talking about sdk | 18:52 |
| sledges | maturing along this one: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_on_VirtualBox | 18:52 |
| New_user | most of the qtcreators that are ported out there are not that well done also IMHO but sailfish is | 18:52 |
| sledges | ( https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_on_VirtualBox#Using_QtCreator to be precise) | 18:53 |
| faenil | bbl dinner | 18:53 |
| faenil | sledges, will ask again later | 18:53 |
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| sledges | buon apetito! | 18:53 |
| sledges | currently there is no integration of nemo qt+glacier components into qtcreator's IDE | 18:54 |
| sledges | it would be a very nice further enabler of the community | 18:54 |
| New_user | sledges, yeah there could be | 18:54 |
| sledges | sailfish solve it with qtc_ macros iirc | 18:55 |
| New_user | but that would mean yet another qtcreator to download | 18:55 |
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| sledges | or contributing to sailfish one | 18:55 |
| sledges | (also seeing how they did it) | 18:55 |
| New_user | sledges, yeah that version of qtcreator does not even build for me on my machine. I am going to update my sailfish now or build it(new one ). | 18:56 |
| sledges | it built for me just fine when i tried | 18:56 |
| New_user | sledges, I have a bunch of plugins for qt that I have wrote all in qt5 | 18:57 |
| New_user | google voice recoginition translations all sorts of stuff | 18:57 |
| sledges | yummy :) | 18:57 |
| New_user | spinx qmlrecorder and just a bunch | 18:57 |
| New_user | just have to get the compiler and the version of qt that is installed on the vdi to be on my desktop so that I can build and test then push | 18:58 |
| New_user | back to haking | 18:58 |
| New_user | hacking * | 18:58 |
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| faenil | back | 19:35 |
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| New_user | Er so sailfish took out the default wizards for qtcreator :( | 19:59 |
| ZogG_laptop | faenil: back in the future | 20:04 |
| faenil | ZogG_laptop, yep | 20:05 |
| sledges | New_user: might have; though they introduced a very nifty sail-hello world creator ;) | 20:07 |
| New_user | yeah that is nice | 20:08 |
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| faenil | qwazix, ping | 20:19 |
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| faenil | w00t, ping | 20:57 |
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| qwazix | faenil, pong | 21:55 |
| faenil | qwazix, have you decided something re b/w icons? | 21:55 |
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| qwazix | since there isn't anything and I won't have time soon to make all those icons, maybe we could use font-awesome? | 21:56 |
| qwazix | http://kdeblog.mageprojects.com/2012/11/20/using-fonts-awesome-in-qml/ | 21:56 |
| qwazix | except if somebody wants to tackle the job | 21:58 |
| faenil | okay | 21:58 |
| qwazix | I'm sure there will be things missing, but it's much easier to make the missing icons instead of all the icons | 21:58 |
| faenil | sure | 21:58 |
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| sledges | which b/w icons? :} | 22:07 |
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| sledges | faenil: qwazix: ^ | 22:13 |
| faenil | sledges, he uses a set of icons in the headers spec | 22:13 |
| faenil | attribution-no-commercial licence | 22:14 |
| faenil | I wanted to know if he decided a set of icons we could use for nemo | 22:14 |
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| sledges | faenil: which ones? | 22:31 |
| faenil | sledges, the black/white icons in header spec | 22:31 |
| sledges | im looking at them | 22:31 |
| faenil | he says that in the spec | 22:31 |
| sledges | so we need a '<' back button | 22:31 |
| sledges | settings '*' wheel | 22:31 |
| faenil | back button is ours I think | 22:32 |
| faenil | and 3 dots as well | 22:32 |
| faenil | but all the others are not | 22:32 |
| sledges | exactly | 22:32 |
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| sledges | in header.png i can see only settings (*), edit (pen), and refresh | 22:33 |
| sledges | i wonder where Morpog_PC took his for the browser mockup | 22:33 |
| sledges | as many are quite wide-spread around our UI farm :) | 22:33 |
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| sledges | faenil: looks like you can snatch some currently sought for: http://play.qwazix.com/grog/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/preview.png | 22:41 |
| sledges | from Morpog_PC mockup | 22:41 |
| sledges | wonder where he took those from, and hope licencing is all good | 22:41 |
| sledges | (best if it's his creations) | 22:42 |
| faenil | sledges, I'll just use same icons as header specs for the moment, and add attribution txt to repo | 22:42 |
| sledges | ok | 22:42 |
| faenil | I need many, like in header specs | 22:42 |
| faenil | not just tools icon | 22:42 |
| sledges | already need many? ;P | 22:43 |
| sledges | sounds intriguing :) | 22:43 |
| Morpog_Mobile | sledges, faenil those icons i made from scratch | 22:44 |
| sledges | Morpog_Mobile: c00l | 22:44 |
| faenil | sledges, no just for demo purposes | 22:44 |
| sledges | faenil needs moar :)) | 22:44 |
| sledges | faenil: ah ok, .. | 22:44 |
| Morpog_Mobile | A list of needed icons would be handy | 22:46 |
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| faenil | Morpog_Mobile, no idea, I just need something to put in the header :) | 22:54 |
| faenil | and since we're missing most of the components | 22:54 |
| sledges | the header is the place where ~95% if the icons variety is | 22:59 |
| sledges | status bar has icons nicely drawn by sandy_locke | 23:00 |
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| sledges | nite | 23:12 |
| stephg | niight | 23:12 |
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| faenil | sledges, night | 23:25 |
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| stephg | now bedtime for me, night faenil | 23:35 |
| faenil | stephg, night o/ | 23:35 |
| stephg | \o | 23:35 |
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