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| faenil | morning :) | 10:58 |
| locusf | heya | 11:00 |
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| krnlyng | can somebody merge: https://github.com/filippz/kernel-adaptation-n950-n9/commits/master | 11:01 |
| faenil | krnlyng, are you hurrian? | 11:01 |
| faenil | I'm getting quite confused :P | 11:01 |
| Hurrian | faenil: no, i'm not krnlying ;) | 11:02 |
| faenil | Hurrian, ok :D | 11:02 |
| krnlyng | faenil: no i am a entirely different person | 11:02 |
| krnlyng | :D | 11:02 |
| faenil | did you guys have nice holidays? :) | 11:02 |
| krnlyng | new to #nemomobile | 11:02 |
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| krnlyng | yeah :) you too? | 11:02 |
| faenil | yeah, not that realxing due to university stuff | 11:03 |
| faenil | but had fun with nephews etc :) | 11:03 |
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| Hurrian | faenil: finally had about a week of rest, unfortunately i forgot to memorize some stuff and do slide shows though so i'm rushing now D: | 11:04 |
| faenil | krnlyng, welcome to nemomobile community then! :D | 11:04 |
| faenil | Hurrian, ehehe | 11:04 |
| Hurrian | gotta memorize three reaction tables by the sixth, fun fun fun | 11:04 |
| faenil | krnlyng, we have no kernel guys atm, so I'll try to keep you glued to this place, you and filippz :P | 11:04 |
| faenil | Hurrian, reaction as in chimics? or? | 11:05 |
| Hurrian | faenil: yep, chemistry. | 11:05 |
| faenil | chemistry, right | 11:05 |
| xavinux | morning :) | 11:05 |
| faenil | xavinux, o/ | 11:07 |
| faenil | I'll be nemo-zombie until mid of March :( | 11:07 |
| sledges | wb xavinux | 11:07 |
| sledges | faenil D: | 11:07 |
| w00t | faenil: braaaiiinns | 11:07 |
| faenil | w00t, ehehe | 11:08 |
| faenil | Stskeeps, please tighten w00t's chains, it seems he's trying to get out of them | 11:08 |
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| krnlyng | faenil: i'll try to debug the hell out of the kernel :), won't be disappearing anytime soon :) | 14:25 |
| faenil | krnlyng, wohoo :) | 14:26 |
| faenil | krnlyng, we've been waiting for someone to pick up 3.5 for so long :D | 14:26 |
| krnlyng | but i appreciate any kind of help in this regard :D | 14:26 |
| krnlyng | faenil: who has push/commit access to the https://github.com/nemomobile/kernel-adaptation-n950-n9 repository? | 14:29 |
| w00t | kjokinie: ^ | 14:30 |
| faenil | krnlyng, not sure :) | 14:30 |
| krnlyng | kjokinie: can you pull the changes from https://github.com/filippz/kernel-adaptation-n950-n9/commits/master ? | 14:31 |
| faenil | krnlyng, filippz should make a PR :) so kjokinie can review and merge | 14:31 |
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| krnlyng | bad sign? | 14:36 |
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| faenil | nah :) | 14:43 |
| faenil | anyway, the flow on github is | 14:43 |
| faenil | fork --> create newbranch -> push commit to newbranch -> make Pull Request to upstream repo --> maintainer reviews and merges | 14:44 |
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| faenil | gotta love unstable connection | 15:56 |
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| w00tc0d3 | faenil: middleware adds an API, right? | 16:18 |
| faenil | w00tc0d3, I don't think that's a good definition | 16:18 |
| faenil | but since you really want a definition, let's look for something reliable | 16:18 |
| faenil | I think wikipedia's definition is good enough :) | 16:20 |
| faenil | "Middleware is computer software that provides services to software applications beyond those available from the operating system. It can be described as "software glue".[1] Middleware makes it easier for software developers to perform communication and input/output, so they can focus on the specific purpose of their application." | 16:20 |
| w00tc0d3 | ah | 16:23 |
| w00tc0d3 | so only a part of the job is providing an API? | 16:23 |
| w00tc0d3 | and, I just bought the book the C Programming Language, I know basic C++ - objects, for/while/if loops, switch cases, basic understanding of pointers -, is there anyway I could help at Nemo, or more specifically, Glacier? | 16:27 |
| faenil | w00tc0d3, Glacier UI is mostly QML, so you should start playing with QML :) | 16:33 |
| faenil | w00tc0d3, you can start from here if you're insterested :) http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/qmlapplications.html | 16:34 |
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| w00tc0d3 | it's a bit like CSS, or am I wrong? | 16:37 |
| faenil | CSS is a style sheet language | 16:39 |
| faenil | yes the syntax is similar | 16:39 |
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| faenil | though QML is like javascript | 16:40 |
| faenil | w00tc0d3, but if you're a web developer you might want to read this http://developer.nokia.com/Community/Wiki/Introduction_to_QML_for_Web_developers | 16:40 |
| w00tc0d3 | I am not ;) | 16:40 |
| faenil | w00tc0d3, QML is based on CSS and JS, if that makes you feel at ease :D | 16:41 |
| w00tc0d3 | I just have been interedsted at web development | 16:42 |
| w00tc0d3 | I'm not an advanced web coder or something ;)) | 16:42 |
| faenil | I suggest you read the first link I sent if you want to start learning QML ;) | 16:42 |
| faenil | I'm no web coder at all, fwiw :) | 16:42 |
| w00tc0d3 | faenil: the whole UI consists of QML? No C/C++? | 16:49 |
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| faenil | there's c/c++ as well for things like UI theme handling | 16:49 |
| faenil | basically, if there's something big which is part of UI logic, that will be done in C++ | 16:50 |
| w00tc0d3 | I *think* I prefer doing that ;) altho, not sure, when I want to write an app, QML knowledge is useful | 16:50 |
| faenil | otherwise, UI, strictly speaking, is QML | 16:50 |
| faenil | not sure there are c++ UI tasks atm | 16:50 |
| faenil | if you want to go down to middleware then there's plenty of stuff, like signal indicator, volume buttons handling, etc | 16:51 |
| faenil | compositor... | 16:51 |
| w00tc0d3 | oeh, volume buttons handling sounds not too bad | 16:51 |
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| faenil | w00tc0d3, I'd choose QML :P | 16:57 |
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| filip_ | Hi guys, I'm taking just a short break from C#/SQL land... | 20:09 |
| filip_ | I'll just try to quickly reply on kernel question in the last couple of days | 20:09 |
| filip_ | krnlyng: as for calling/sms/3g - I haven't tried but there is mention of "HSI port not initialized" or something to that affect in dmesg | 20:09 |
| filip_ | I'm not sure wether it has anytning to do with SIM card not being in the tray, but I thing that is the reason for calling/sms/3g not working | 20:09 |
| filip_ | If you find some time please take a look at that, and of course, hw revision detection bug that prevents 150x revisions from booting | 20:10 |
| filip_ | In the meantime I've tried BME with my code - and bmestat simply detects charger, and won't charge | 20:10 |
| filip_ | I'll try to write proxy that will "feed" BME with data by using twl4030-madc hwmon feature (if I get hwmon to work) | 20:10 |
| filip_ | That seems to me as the best approach atm (I had quite a few "best approaches" regarding bme - and they have all failed) | 20:10 |
| krnlyng | filip_: i found out its not a revision detection error | 20:10 |
| filip_ | As for github I suggest that we use my repo for now - I think that it's current state just isn't right for inclusion in the main repo | 20:11 |
| krnlyng | filip_: ok | 20:11 |
| krnlyng | thanks | 20:11 |
| filip_ | krnlyng: it's not that ? Do you know what is, or it's yet unknown? | 20:11 |
| krnlyng | filip_: if the device is registered the kernel fails somewhere (don't know where yet, need to get some logs) | 20:12 |
| krnlyng | filip_: first i thought it detected the wrong revision but thats not the case (i compared the code with the 2.6 kernel) | 20:13 |
| filip_ | krnlyng: then it's "printk everywhere" game - I wonder why on my N9 it works | 20:14 |
| filip_ | someone with wokring serial cable could help | 20:15 |
| filip_ | going back to SQL... :( Bye for now... | 20:16 |
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