Monday, 2013-12-02

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DanderlionHi, I just manage to get Nemo to boot on my nokia n9, but it seems that I can't get past the lockscreen. It rotates very pretty and smooth but I can't unlock it. I followed the merproject installation guide to the letter so just wondering if I screwed something up or if there is some step that is missing from it.00:05
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sledgesgoo morning08:19
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zbenjaminStskeeps: hey, CM works again ;)08:42
zbenjaminStskeeps: hardware works08:44
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faenilgnignigni :D09:02
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frafra is asking me for authentication; I'm a registered user but my credentials don't work: why?09:47
valdur55Same here..09:47
frafrano way to fix it?09:49
veskuhfrafra, what does "ssu domain" say?09:50
frafraveskuh, Device domain is currently: sales09:51
veskuhfrafra, thats correct, but you shouldn't have that repository. Its not open.09:51
frafraveskuh, I just used this howto:
Stskeepsrzr naturally broke something then09:52
frafrait seems that this repository was automatically added when I've installed some packages09:52
frafrayes; all repositories are wrong09:54
frafrahow could I restore those repository to a previous state?09:59
frafraI don't know how to change the global configuration09:59
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valdur55My ssu domain is : Device domain is currently: jolla10:05
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faenilvaldur55, then run "ssu domain sales" please10:07
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vgrade_ssu-vendor-data-jolla-0.72-10.12.1.jolla.noarch seems to change the repos10:22
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valdur55i have still onlt nemo bootscren.. I am going to start with sdk image....10:24
sledgesvaldur55: only nemo bootscreen is most often due to incorrectly untarred nemo rootfs10:24
sledgescheck permissions (i.e. /home/nemo/)10:24
frafrahow do you suggest to create a tarball in order to restore mer properly? I don't want to do try the whole installation process from scratch every time :D10:25
valdur55it comed after sailfish packages install10:25
valdur55and i started with X11  nemo10:26
wazdheya all10:26
sledgesX11 nemo? sailfish is wayland/qt5, just as the latest nemo is10:26
sledgeswazd: \o10:26
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frafranobody knows how to create properly a rootfs tarball?10:34
frafraI tried to do it, but it doesn't work (boot failed)10:34
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valdur55how did you do that?10:36
valdur55You basically do tar :)10:36
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frafracd /media/Alt_OS && tar --numeric-owner -cJf /home/frafra/nemo-n950-rnd-20131120-unfreeze.tar.xz .10:37
valdur55what was file size?10:37
frafraabout 135 mb10:38
frafratake in mind that xz works better than bz210:38
sledgesfrafra: so, do i understand correctly:10:38
sledges1. you had working nemo (with unfreeze repo)10:38
sledges2. you tarred its rootfs as root with command above10:38
sledges3. you broke something10:39
sledges4. deleted rootfs, and untarred the one from tarball above?10:39
frafrasledges, exactly10:39
sledgesensuring you used root account (or via sudo) and always provided --numeric-owner ?10:40
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frafrasledges, sure10:40
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sledgeswell well10:45
sledgesyou are just 4-5 commands away from that state you know that ;)10:45
sledgeswith original image10:45
sledgesunless you saved your wifi password :P10:45
sledgesso if it works with original image10:45
sledgesand you want to get to the bottom of this10:46
frafraI would like to do it because if everything goes well, I could create a rootfs for everybody10:46
sledgesyou can compare dir trees10:46
frafrayes, I'll try to compare them10:47
sledgesfrafra: or just fix the unfreeze bug ;)10:49
sledgesas that workaround won't be there for long10:49
frafralast night I got sallifish os working, but I didn't reinstalled the unfreeze patch10:50
frafraand I couldn't login using ssh on usb010:50
frafraso, broken installation after 2-3 hours of work10:51
frafrathis is why I would like to snapshot :D10:51
frafrathen, I could create an image and share it with everybody10:51
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valdur55dd would be good enought :D10:51
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frafraok, maybe I found how to install it11:16
frafrawhat is ssu-vendor-data-nemo?11:22
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sledgesnemo's ssu repos11:24
valdur55I found how to disable/ enable repo globally11:24
valdur55just use -G flag :D11:24
frafravaldur55, great :D11:25
nightmare04Hi all, can you help me please with Nokia N9 16g and resize partition failure11:25
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nightmare04i see it, but no my11:25
nightmare04Disk /dev/mmcblk0: 15.8 GB, 15896412160 bytes 4 heads, 16 sectors/track, 485120 cylinders Units = cylinders of 64 * 512 = 32768 bytes          Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks  Id System /dev/mmcblk0p1              17      160512     5135872   c Win95 FAT32 (LBA) Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary /dev/mmcblk0p3          419585      485120     2097152  83 Linux11:25
sledgesnightmare04: please use pastee11:26
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sledgesnightmare04: give me 10min11:28
sledgesin the meantime, telnet into device ;)11:30
sledgesnightmare04: ^11:30
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sledgescat /var/log/repartition.log11:31
nightmare04FATAL: resizing of Harmattan User partition failed!11:32
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frafrawhere to find jolla-xt9-0.4.1-10.6.1.jolla.armv7hl.rpm ?11:39
sledgesisn't that for hardware adaptation? (N/A to nokia n9xx)11:40
frafraI don't know: I told zypper to ignore it11:40
frafrabut I have no gui now11:41
frafraI can still login with ssh11:41
frafrahow it could be?11:43
sledgesif you have no gui, doesn't mean absense of that package is at fault11:44
sledgessee journalctl11:44
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nightmare04sledges, what should I do11:45
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sledgesnightmare04: im writing tutorial11:45
sledges4mins :D11:45
sledgesas i had your case last friday11:45
frafrait's full of messages :D11:45
sledgesfrafra: :))11:46
sledgesgood :))11:46
sledgesfrafra: do `zypper se mesa`11:46
sledgesif you have mesa packages11:46
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sledgesremove one of them, and correct ti-* ones will be automatically pulled in11:46
frafraI have no ti-* packages11:47
sledgesfrafra: you must have, they are N9's graphics core11:47
frafrawich package should install?11:47
sledgeszypper se sgx11:48
sledgesshow me the list ;P11:48
sledgesfrafra: they are installed11:49
frafrasledges, what it could be?11:50
sledgesupload journalctl output somewhere11:51
sledgescan be many many things11:51
sledgesespecially when nemo works, and sailfish doesnt, on same hardware, so ;)11:51
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frafrasledges, it's more than 500kb11:56
nightmare04Thanks, try it now11:56
sledgesfrafra: reboot and dump it right away11:56
nightmare04in fdisk "o"?11:57
frafrasledges, ok11:57
nightmare04to create partition?11:57
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sledgesfrafra: ls -l /home/12:00
frafranemo here12:01
nightmare04sledges, if i run MOSLO with this command "sudo flasher -k usr/share/moslo/zImage-moslo -n usr/share/moslo/initrd-moslo -l -b" can i reboot?12:01
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sledgesnightmare04: yes12:01
sledgesi need -l12:01
frafrasledges, sorry :D12:02
frafradrwx------ 18 nemo nemo 4096 1970-01-01 01:00 nemo12:02
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sledgeshave you tinkered with /etc/passwd ?12:02
frafrasledges, no12:02
frafradrwxr-xr-x 2 nemo nemo 4096 1970-01-01 01:00 Desktop12:03
frafraall like this12:03
sledgesfrafra: `find /lib/systemd/system | grep session`12:03
sledgesfrafra: `systemctl | grep session`12:04
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sledgesfrafra: `systemctl-user | grep session`12:05
frafranot running12:05
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frafrasledges, the nemo wallpaper seems blinking sometimes12:08
sledgeslockscreen wallpaper?12:08
frafrasledges, no, boot wallpaper12:08
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* sledges tries to jump-start his n9...12:09
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frafrasledges, I launched zypper up; everything ok; reboot; no ssh, blue blinking boot wallpaper12:16
frafrathis is very frustrating12:17
sledgesstarting my n9 is more like
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sledgesfrafra: you break the integrity of nemo, if course there be dragons ;)12:20
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frafrasledges, some people did it, they wrote some tutorial, but they are wrong. This is sadic :D12:21
sledgeswell they got it on video ;)12:23
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sledgesmaybe those are the teeny n9 -v- n950 differences?12:23
frafrasledges, two time sadic :D12:24
frafradon't know I don't think so12:24
sledgesthose are the people to talk to12:25
frafralast night was working12:25
sledgesbecause what i expect in nemo is ls -l /home appearing as 100000:100000 nemo12:25
sledgesooi, you can do `grep nemo /etc/passwd`12:25
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frafralet me see12:26
frafrapermissions are ok12:29
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sledgesfrafra: `systemctl status user-session@100000.service`12:31
frafrasledges, I can't run it; ssh is not working anymore12:31
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sledgessounds like a nightmare :)12:32
sledgesrevert and don't zypper up12:32
sledgesguys did tutorial yesterday-ish, using some prebuilt nemo image, very likely zypper up introduces more breakages, or tries to revert things nemo way12:33
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valdur55you should remove nemo and mer-core repos12:35
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nightmare04sledges, my N9 in cycling reboot:( boot only with MOLSO, after fdisk and create partition boot harmattan, i try to run MOLSO and format partiotion but error "mkfs.ext4: symbol lookup error: mkfs.ext4: undefined symbol: set_com_err_gettext"12:39
nightmare04try to format with Gparted12:40
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nightmare04download original firmware? and try again12:44
sledgesnightmare04: you need to format via host pc12:44
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sledgesas per tutorial12:44
nightmare04formated by GParted12:45
nightmare04create partition table and format12:45
sledgescan you still boot harmattan?12:45
nightmare04no cycling reboot but can boot in MOLSO12:46
sledgesdid you follow the tutorial and checked that mounting partition 2 shows harmattan rootfs?12:46
nightmare04harmattan boot after that12:46
sledges12:45 < sledges> can you still boot harmattan?12:47
nightmare04but after run in MOLSO it has cycling reboot :)12:47
sledges1. you created partition 212:47
sledges2. rebooted into harmattan - ok12:47
sledges3. rebooted back to moslo12:47
sledges4. created partition 412:47
sledges5. harmattan bootcycles12:47
sledgeswell, thats too weird to be true12:48
sledgesi have to go now12:48
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sledgesyou can try nemo now, since you can boot to moslo12:48
sledgesjust extract nemo rootfs into exported partition12:49
sledgesand we can try to resurrect your harmattan when im back12:49
sledgesin an hour12:49
nightmare04ok will wait12:49
sledgesnightmare04: you can try nemo now12:50
sledgesif we fail to bring you harma back, you will then need to flash orig firmware12:50
nightmare04after extract nemo on partiotion nothing boot:) i will try again12:51
sledgesyea, you need to reboot once at least12:51
sledgeshave fun12:51
nightmare04ok i download original firmware:)12:51
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sledgesnightmare04: lol13:47
nightmare04yes i'm here:)13:48
nightmare04Just flash with original firmware and booting:)13:48
sledgesi just commenter your last text ;) give up already ;)13:48
sledgesgood :)13:48
nightmare04And will try to install nemo:)))))))))))))13:49
sledgeshope you won't end up in the same state? ;)13:49
merlin1991hey, I'm trying to grok howto abuse libcommhistory to dump all sms, but for some reason the model is still empty after my call of getEvents13:51
merlin1991so I guess I should look into how the nemo messaging app loads sms, though I lack the application name / package13:52
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sledgesqmlmessages merlin199113:53
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merlin1991damn it's using org.nemomobile.commhistory in qml --> gotta look into that :)13:57
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sledgescheck nemo-qml-plugin*14:00
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nightmare04sledges, after flashing orig firmware MyDocs partition small, and MOLSO do not run14:11
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sledgeswhat do you mean moslo doesn't run?14:12
nightmare04ERROR: Limits for Harmattan User partition could not be satisfied!14:13
nightmare04       Part size: 18463744  Required min part size: 1433600014:13
nightmare04       Free space: 6976896  Required min free space: 921600014:13
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sledgesnightmare04: your MyDocs is full of stuff, please clean up/backup/delete14:14
nightmare04Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks  Id System14:15
nightmare04/dev/mmcblk0p1              17      288512     9231872   c Win95 FAT32 (LBA)14:15
nightmare04/dev/mmcblk0p2          288513      419584     4194304  83 Linux14:15
nightmare04/dev/mmcblk0p3          419585      485120     2097152  83 Linux14:15
nightmare04i try to find anything stuff, but not find14:16
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sledgesmount /dev/mmcblk0p1 /mnt/ ; df -h /mnt/14:16
nightmare04moment reboot.14:17
sledgesboot to harmattan14:17
sledgesyou can then use usb as mass storage, to see your mydocs14:17
sledgesand investigate more (what's its actual size etc)14:17
nightmare04yes, but not find MyDocs ~500 mb and free ~3.6 GB14:18
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valdur55MyDocs have label: "Nokia N9"14:19
nightmare04yes, but not find stuff, MyDocs ~500 mb and free ~3.6 GB14:19
valdur55are you using linux?14:20
valdur55use baobab14:20
valdur55to check what eats your drive space14:20
nightmare04df -h /mnt/14:21
sledgesit might be you did not reformat your mydocs after reinstalling harmattan14:21
sledgesand getting fiddly with partition resizing before14:21
nightmare04Filesystem                Size      Used Available Use% Mounted on14:21
nightmare04/dev/mmcblk0p1            4.9G      1.6G      3.3G  32% /mnt14:21
sledgesnightmare04: can you backup your mydocs please? fully14:22
nightmare04There's nothing important in MyDocs14:23
sledgesgood :D14:23
sledgesthen let's boot to moslo and let the havoc begin :D14:23
nightmare04in moslo... tell what do:)14:24
sledgeshowever, there are some important directory structure under MyDocs14:24
sledgeswhich would be good to restore14:24
sledgesso backup is handy14:24
sledgeswe can risk without though ;)14:24
sledgesfdisk /dev/mmcblk0 -c=dos14:25
sledgeswhen you're ready ^_^14:25
nightmare04fdisk: invalid option -- 'c'14:28
nightmare04sledges, ^14:28
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nightmare04enter without -c:) what next14:29
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sledgesnot good14:30
sledgesneed -c14:30
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sledgesyou can try though:14:30
sledgesdelete partition 114:31
sledgescreate partition 114:31
sledgesset start cyl at 1714:31
sledgessee if says value out of range14:31
sledges(don't save changes after it ;))14:31
sledgesdid it accept 17 ?14:32
sledgesdelete it14:32
sledgesyou need to specify:14:33
nightmare04Command (m for help): d14:33
nightmare04Partition number (1-4): 114:33
nightmare04Command (m for help): n14:33
nightmare04Command action14:33
nightmare04   e   extended14:33
nightmare04   p   primary partition (1-4)14:33
nightmare04Partition number (1-4): 114:33
nightmare04First cylinder (1-485120, default 1): 1714:33
nightmare04Last cylinder or +size or +sizeM or +sizeK (17-288512, default 288512): 28851214:33
nightmare04delete 1 part14:34
nightmare04create 1 part14:34
nightmare04start 1714:34
nightmare04end 16051214:34
sledgespartition 114:34
sledgestype = c14:34
sledges(W95 FAT32 (LBA))14:34
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sledgescreate partition 414:36
sledgesmount /dev/mmcblk0p1 /mnt/ ; ls -l /mnt/14:38
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nightmare04my MyDocs14:38
sledgesumount /mnt/14:38
* sledges loves vfat14:38
* sledges hides14:38
frafranightmare04, sledges is a magician14:38
nightmare04frafra, yes:)))14:39
sledgesor a frustrated MOSLO user :))14:39
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sledgesso, nightmare04, reboot to moslo again14:39
sledgesand now it will export a partition to your host PC14:39
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nightmare04mkfs.ext4 -L 'Alt_OS' /dev/sdc? on host machine?14:43
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nightmare04sudo mount /dev/sdd /media/Alt_OS/14:45
sledgesbe careful14:45
nightmare04sudo tar --numeric-owner -xf nemo-n950-rnd-20131120.tar.bz2 -C /media/Alt_OS/ ?14:46
sledgesnightmare04: did you format the right thing ooi?14:46
nightmare04Yes:)))) all right:)))14:46
nightmare04at last was sdc now sdd:)))14:46
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sledgeswith hope you are doing everything right14:48
sledgesextract that nemo now ;)14:48
sledgesafterwards, do `sync` and `umount`14:48
sledgesso, when you now unplug the cable14:48
sledgesmoslo should find nemo14:48
sledgesand offer to boot14:48
sledgesit might not work first time round, you might need to reboot to moslo again14:49
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nightmare04Thanks:))))) NEMO logo14:50
sledges:D \o/14:50
sledgesthat is just the beginning (of the end) ;)14:51
nightmare04but nothing work:)))))14:51
sledgesdo you have graphics?14:51
nightmare04click on icons and nothing14:52
sledgesread the red issue ;)14:52
nightmare04telnet work on
frafrahow to add a global repository with ssu?14:53
nightmare04login and pass?14:54
sledgesfrafra: -G ? just from the backlog14:54
sledgesnightmare04: nemo:nemo14:54
frafrasledges, no output doesn't work14:54
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sledgesfrafra: i think valdur55 was mentioning it14:56
nightmare04and how connect internet on N9 to load this fix???14:56
frafrasledges, for zypper yes, and it works14:56
sledgesnightmare04: same like telnetting14:57
valdur55-G flag would be logical....14:58
nightmare04[root@localhost nemo]# route add default gw
nightmare04[root@localhost nemo]# route add default gw
nightmare04bash: route: command not found15:04
nightmare04sledges, ^15:05
nightmare04and no ifconfig:(15:05
* sledges fixes wiki..15:06
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nightmare04and dns in resolv.conf don work15:08
sledgesecho nameserver > /etc/resolv.conf15:08
nightmare04i now:))) add to wiki;)))15:08
sledgescan you add? ;)15:09
nightmare04i'm Russian, my English bad;))))))))))))))))15:09
frafrasledges, I'm trying to write a simple tutorial while trying to install sallifish properly15:09
frafraroute should work without using /sbin/route15:10
nightmare04only /sbin/15:10
sledges"echo nameserver > /etc/resolv.conf" - what english? :D15:10
frafranightmare04, are you using telnet?15:10
sledgesfrafra: not in mer world, sbin is not under path, i think it's some posix and/or opensuse convention15:11
frafraI can use route as root both on telnet and mer15:11
frafrajust tried15:11
locusfalso ip route add default via works15:16
locusfwithout /sbin15:16
sledgeslocusf, what up? :)15:17
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sledgesfor sbin, probably ssh environment wrong ;) but that might be intentional legacy relic15:22
locusfsledges: nothing much15:26
sledgeshow's jolla as daily phone? ;)15:27
locusfbad battery and clock is wrong in auto mode :p15:27
sledgesshort battery life you mean?15:27
locusfknown bug, fix not yet deployed15:27
sledgesnot asking what you do with it :D15:28
locusfIMO though15:28
sledgeswhen you tried to put glacier on day 1 ;))15:28
locusfI've used to 7 days battery with gnote15:29
locusfso thats probably why I think its bad :p15:29
frafrawgere can I find libjollasignonuiservice-qt5-0.0.33-10.7.2.jolla.armv7hl.rpm?15:29
juicemehmm as I am looking in Jolla's /var/log i see no syslog or messages or anything like that?15:30
juicemewhy is that... how does Mer handle logging? There was some strange command people used...?15:30
locusfjuiceme: journalctl -f -a15:30
juicemethat's it :)15:31
frafralocusf, old version15:31
frafrawhy this package is not available?15:31
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locusfI dunno15:32
frafraand why jolla-xt9* are always missing?15:34
juicemelocusf, how do I see logs from previous boot?15:36
sledgesjuiceme: it's volatile, no-one once NAND worn prematurely :)15:37
sledges(or expanding big files/out of space)15:38
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juicemesledges, wot?15:39
nightmare04where i can find jolla-xt9-cp-0.1.1-10.2.2.jolla.armv7hl.rpm?15:40
juicemedammit, that' not nice... see I had my first sopntaneous reboot15:40
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alteregonightmare04: #jollamobile ?15:41
juicemeso naturally I'd look into syslogs to know what was the thing that blew15:41
valdur55juiceme: can your share your nemo image? :D15:41
nightmare04not find in repos:(15:41
juicemevaldur55, in theory I could, propably15:41
alteregoI'm just wondering why people are talking about jolla in here ;)15:41
juicemeI'm not sure if it is allowed though15:41
sledgesjuiceme: you can't get log of previous boots15:42
juicemesledges, I see the reason for it, not to waste flash for it, yes15:42
sledges15:39 < juiceme> sledges, wot?15:42
juicemeI was not aware of it15:43
sledgesi thought you didn't understand my non-straightforward answer *g*15:43
sledgesa ok :)15:43
sledgesthat's rule of thumb of an embedded system15:43
sledgessadly many BSPs fail in that regard, and then pay costly later on15:43
juicemeso, there's no way of knowint what went under, altought I suspect it was RAN handover15:43
* sledges shrugs15:44
juicemesledges, well I have syslog on flash on my N9 :)15:44
sledgesthere you go :D15:45
juicemebut hey, might there not be a panic handler that would write core or something nice...15:45
sledgesgiven you know the logging intensity, you can even calculate the time when nand will get scrubbed to bone ;)15:45
Hurriannightmare04: i'm assuming it's an on-device package15:46
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frafrasledges, good news here16:27
sledgesare they realy?16:28
frafrayep I figure out why it was asking me for a missing package16:28
frafrathe key is: downgrade16:28
frafrazypper in -t jolla-ambient jolla-camera # this command allows you to downgrade the component that require the missing package16:28
sledgeshow cool16:29
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frafraso: install the strange package manually, try to install jolla stuff, ignore missing packages, launch the second command to downgrade a couple of components, then use dup to downgrade everything else and make it working16:30
sledgescongrats with your sailfish, frafra16:31
frafraI'll try to relase a rootfs16:31
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Hurrianoh uhh, do you guys have haptics and audio working?16:33
Hurriani might need to install sailfish's ngfd.16:33
w00tngfd is the same code inside as out16:37
w00tthe only part that differs is the configurations16:37
Hurrianso... ngfd-settings-sailfish it is.16:38
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Hurriancan't push the button to connect to wifi either, but it's probably a bug somewhere else. heading off to bed now, got SFOS running almost perfectly and I'm happy with a hack :P16:41
Hurriannight all!16:41
wazd_or bye I guess :D16:42
tbrfrafra: If its clean, I can host it16:44
frafratbr, thank you16:44
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juicemevaldur55, ping?17:07
Stskeepsjust remember guys, even if it's possible to have a shiny sailfish on your n950s, it doesn't mean glacier is not important17:08
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valdur55ajalkane: pong17:13
valdur55juiceme: pong17:13
sledgesopen-source software fans will stick to glacier, but those who like sailfish as-is, will help testing parts of nemomobile on n9xx nevertheless ;)17:15
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frafrasledges, important news: gui doesn't start because the missing xt9 packages don't let the installation finish correctly17:22
frafrathis is why it's needed to install a, then a and b, then a and b and c...17:22
michaelmhkHi all, I'm new to irc17:22
frafrahi michaelmhk17:22
sledgeshi michaelmhk17:22
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valdur55frafra: good. You are learning :)17:24
michaelmhkI installed sailfish os successfully on my n9, the edge gesture direction rotated 90 degree17:25
valdur55I played some today with "dead" phone. No UI (even spash) and i ssh-ed to device :D17:25
michaelmhkand the n9 proximity sensor didn't work due to not yet port to qt5?17:26
frafraI don't know but... how you have installed sailfish os on n9?17:28
valdur55I started with older nemo image ( X11 ) and got same state as you ( spash screen and ssh acces ). I started today again and i havent got it working yet....17:29
michaelmhktrial and error :), but still missing jolla-xt9 jolla-xt9-cp17:29
fraframichaelmhk, this is something that is not available17:29
frafrathat's the problem17:29
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Morpog_PCI think it's a bit sad and bittersweet, that only now people start to populate this channel. Though , no one is really interested into Glacier....17:34
Stskeepsthey should be17:34
sledgespeople are interested in a usable system, which sailfish provides17:34
Morpog_PCnot really, on a N9 as far as what I have seen17:34
sledgesalthough how usable it will be on n9, i wonder17:34
Stskeepsnot sure why everybody comes in here though, a post somewhere?17:34
sledgesso, it's good, they will see that you can't have much control over sailfish to put it to n9's submission, and will resort to nemo ;)17:35
Morpog_PCgiven the energy they put into sailfish, Glacier would have improved significantly over the last days...17:35
sledges100% FOSS project ;) (excluding hardware adaptation)17:35
sledgesgive it some time17:35
sledgesim happy i could complete the dreaded MOSLO partition bug wiki thanks to them :D17:36
Morpog_PCStskeeps, I guess they read Nemo wiki and that points to here17:36
Morpog_PClol sledges :D17:36
frafraMorpog_Mobile, I didn't found any tutorial for testing Glacier17:36
Morpog_PCat least that will help me in a few days/weeks17:37
Morpog_PCwell, tehre is not much to test17:37
sledgesfrafra: no tutorial doesn't mean you cannot ask here, links to are in wiki, (tweest show glacier state)17:37
frafrathank sledges17:38
Morpog_PCfrafra: /usr/lib/qt5/examples QT_QUICK_CONTROLS_STYLE=Nemo ./touch_nemo -platform wayland17:38
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sledgesfrafra: Morpog_PC, more complete: zypper in qt5-qtquickcontrols-nemo-examples; cd /usr/lib/qt5/examples; QT_QUICK_CONTROLS_STYLE=Nemo ./touch_nemo -platform wayland17:39
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michaelmhkI have been keep updating nemo, until wayland, it hard for me to follow up17:41
michaelmhkI mean using nemo17:42
sledgesit's more about "developing" rather than "using" ;)17:43
sledgesit's a fun playground, with latest toys around ^_^17:43
sledgese.g. middleware is as rock solid as jolla's (because it's one and the same thing :))17:44
Morpog_PCand even a totally newbie like I am can do some stuff17:44
sledgesanyone can chip in, given it's an full operating system for interactive devices17:45
ryukafalzwell I am very interested in glacier ;)  though not really as a developer at the moment, got too much other stuff to do17:47
sledgesryukafalz: great!17:48
ryukafalzbut honestly I'm more interested in glacier than sailfish haha17:48
ryukafalzas sailfish's ui isn't open17:48
* sledges <- what he said ^_^17:49
ryukafalzalso the glacier concept art looks amazing17:50
frafrasledges, sailfish works now17:50
sledgesand it's all in your hands of how it will be implemented and evolve over time17:51
sledgesfrom homescreen to browser17:51
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michaelmhkWhat is the status of appformeego, mer, nemomobile and glacier now? I'm new to the FOSS world :)17:53
sledgesmer is the core17:54
sledgesmeego apps - many, many dead, many portable, etc17:56
ryukafalzsledges: some things seemed a bit slow in that video, is that because of the hardware it's running on?17:56
ryukafalzlooks like an N9?17:57
sledgesofc is n917:57
sledgesslow things = old non optimised apps17:57
sledgeswe just ported all stock apps from qt4 to qt5, and haven't optimised them17:57
ryukafalzahh okay17:57
michaelmhkI want to learn writing application on nemo, but it seem qt component is different on harmattan, also wayland break something?17:57
sledgessenseless to opimise, because they will first be rewritten using new glacier components that we are working atm17:58
sledgesmichaelmhk: current nemo version is using qtcomponents, which are compatible with harmattan (you write import*)17:58
sledgesbut soon we will transition to new glacier component set (using QtQuick Controls), where we are aiming to make porting as easy as can be17:59
ryukafalzwas the keyboard one of those ported apps?17:59
sledgeskeyboard is maliit framework - separate project upstream18:00
sledgeswe are re-using it as overlay "app", and contributing upstream18:00
sledgesproviding our own glacier skin according to specs18:00
sledgesno need to have components' qml involved here18:00
ryukafalzah that's the same keyboard as ubuntu touch is using isn't it?18:01
sledgessame as jolla phone is using18:01
frafraI can't receive phonecalls, and when I try to make one I can hear the voice but the screen goes black18:01
sledgesprobably many other vkb solutions choose maliit18:01
sledgesfrafra: i can't really help you, because phonecalls in pure nemo are more usable (not 100% still, need work); now you put sailfish layers+repos on top, who knows what more it broke :/18:02
Morpog_PCcould be proximity sensor fault18:03
ryukafalzDoes maliit as you're using it support multitouch?  When I was trying ubuntu I noticed it didn't, but the maliit wiki says the version used by the N9 did have it18:04
Morpog_PCdunno, hard to test on VM with mouse :)18:04
sledgesryukafalz: like Shift+a = A ? :)18:04
* sledges looks18:05
ryukafalzsledges: Yep, but without releasing shift18:05
piggzso, how many peeps running sailfish on the n9[50] ?18:05
frafrasledges, on nemo I have exactly the same problem18:05
sledgesno, doesn't work on glacier maliit here18:05
sledgesunsure if there's a switch18:06
Morpog_PClooks like a task for ryukafalz18:06
ryukafalzhaha well... :P18:06
Morpog_PCu can make it :D18:07
ryukafalzhuh, both the meego keyboard and the reference maliit keyboard are open source...18:08
* ryukafalz pokes around18:08
sledgesfrafra: just tested, you are right, screen goes black ;) I believe it's a regression, as it used to work fine; worth checking prox sensor code just like Morpog_PC said (if the sensor always thinks it's being tripped)18:08
Morpog_PCryukafalz, I got another shocker for you: Everything in nemomobile is open source18:08
ryukafalzMorpog_PC: well yeah, but I wasn't sure about N9 stuff :P18:09
ryukafalztheir keyboard code seemed like the kind of thing that might be closed, like most of the harmattan UI18:09
Morpog_PCI think the extension nokia had on maliit are still closed source18:10
ryukafalzah, and the haptics bit was a closed plugin looks like18:10
Morpog_PClike word auto correction, etc.18:10
ryukafalzthis table is interesting...
specialthe N9 keyboard was closed18:12
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sledgesold grave of haptics tutorial:
sledgespackages might have changed names, but fun for a fight :)18:24
sledgesHurrian: ryukafalz: ^18:27
sledgesmaybe w00t could update ^ if something is out-of-hand18:27
ajalkanevaldur55: ping18:28
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valdur55ajalkane: pong.... it was wrong one :D sorry .18:42
ajalkanehehe, no probs18:43
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locusfsledges: I'll fix the label comments tomorrow19:00
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stephgwhat's the latest with the homescreen19:13
stephgit still seems to be utterly b0rked19:14
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Morpog_PCstephg, tried the workaround?19:15
WazdWow, Irc on bb10, neat :)19:15
Morpog_PCstephg, see this link for a temporary fix:
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stephgMorpog_PC cool19:21
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krnlynghi, i am haveing an issue with nemo on my n9, i used a fresh install with the lastest image and if i boot the device it shows the nemo bootscreen and afterwards graphics go all weird and stuff is not drawn where it's supposed to be, and parts of the logo get displayed on the left side, what am i doing wrong?23:20
krnlyngdo i need the unfreeze stuff as described on the wiki?23:21
Morpog_PCkrnlyng, you need to use latest ubiboot or change a line in ubiboot config23:21
krnlyngMorpog_PC: i think i have the lastest release of ubiboot, but what config line is that?23:22
Morpog_PCwhen you got that bug, then you haven't latest23:22
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krnlyngMorpog_PC: ok thanks :)23:24
Merbot`Morpog_PC: Error: "ubiboot" is not a valid command.23:25
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krnlyngMorpog_PC: is flashing a new image easier?23:28
Morpog_PCi remember that you need to flash 2 things to fix it23:29
Morpog_PCsledges or juiceme me know for sure23:29
krnlyngso the ubiboot config change is faster :)?23:29
Morpog_PCI think so, but I can't find the information either atm23:29
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krnlyngMorpog_PC: i am using ubiboot 0.3.5, is there a newer version?23:34
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Morpog_PCI think you need the latest cpio file too23:38
Morpog_PCkrnlyng, found it!23:39
krnlyngMorpog_PC: i have the lastest one of that too^23:40
krnlyngoh yeah!!23:40
Morpog_PCsee there: Boot : ubiboot (ONLY NEEDED FOR UBIBOOT 0.3.4 OR OLDER)23:40
Morpog_PCthis line was important iirc:23:40
Morpog_PC+G_NEMO_INITSCRIPT="\/sbin\/init\ vram\=6m\ omapfb.vram\=0\:6M"23:40
krnlyngMorpog_PC: thanks!!23:41
krnlyngrebooting :)23:42
Morpog_PCafter that the bootscreen shouldn't stay tehre half23:42
Morpog_PCbut you could get the new bug :)23:42
krnlyngMorpog_PC: thank you very much, it worked :)23:43
krnlyngsailfishos working :O :):)23:43
Morpog_PCnice ;)23:43
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