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Danderlion | Hi, I just manage to get Nemo to boot on my nokia n9, but it seems that I can't get past the lockscreen. It rotates very pretty and smooth but I can't unlock it. I followed the merproject installation guide to the letter so just wondering if I screwed something up or if there is some step that is missing from it. | 00:05 |
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ZogG_laptop | pt | 05:39 |
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niqt | morning | 08:11 |
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sledges | goo morning | 08:19 |
Stskeeps | goo. | 08:20 |
Stskeeps | :P | 08:20 |
sledges | :)) | 08:20 |
tbr | mooo | 08:20 |
sledges | p... | 08:20 |
sledges | &) | 08:20 |
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zbenjamin | morning | 08:42 |
zbenjamin | Stskeeps: hey, CM works again ;) | 08:42 |
zbenjamin | Stskeeps: hardware works | 08:44 |
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stephg | morninginginginginginging | 08:47 |
tbr | stephg: www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWmd_XnO2kk | 08:52 |
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stephg | heh | 08:55 |
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faenil | morningnignigng | 09:02 |
faenil | gnignigni :D | 09:02 |
stephg | \o/ | 09:04 |
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sledges | gnugnu | 09:45 |
frafra | https://download.jollamobile.com/nemo:/mw/latest_armv7hl/ is asking me for authentication; I'm a registered user but my credentials don't work: why? | 09:47 |
valdur55 | Same here.. | 09:47 |
frafra | no way to fix it? | 09:49 |
veskuh | frafra, what does "ssu domain" say? | 09:50 |
frafra | veskuh, Device domain is currently: sales | 09:51 |
veskuh | frafra, thats correct, but you shouldn't have that repository. Its not open. | 09:51 |
frafra | veskuh, I just used this howto: http://www.who.is.free.fr/wiki/doku.php?id=n950club&#sailfish_os_post_release | 09:52 |
Stskeeps | rzr naturally broke something then | 09:52 |
frafra | it seems that this repository was automatically added when I've installed some packages | 09:52 |
frafra | yes; all repositories are wrong | 09:54 |
frafra | how could I restore those repository to a previous state? | 09:59 |
frafra | I don't know how to change the global configuration | 09:59 |
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valdur55 | My ssu domain is : Device domain is currently: jolla | 10:05 |
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faenil | valdur55, then run "ssu domain sales" please | 10:07 |
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valdur55 | Ok. | 10:11 |
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vgrade_ | ssu-vendor-data-jolla-0.72-10.12.1.jolla.noarch seems to change the repos | 10:22 |
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valdur55 | i have still onlt nemo bootscren.. I am going to start with sdk image.... | 10:24 |
sledges | valdur55: only nemo bootscreen is most often due to incorrectly untarred nemo rootfs | 10:24 |
sledges | check permissions (i.e. /home/nemo/) | 10:24 |
frafra | how do you suggest to create a tarball in order to restore mer properly? I don't want to do try the whole installation process from scratch every time :D | 10:25 |
valdur55 | it comed after sailfish packages install | 10:25 |
valdur55 | and i started with X11 nemo | 10:26 |
wazd | heya all | 10:26 |
sledges | X11 nemo? sailfish is wayland/qt5, just as the latest nemo is | 10:26 |
sledges | wazd: \o | 10:26 |
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frafra | nobody knows how to create properly a rootfs tarball? | 10:34 |
frafra | I tried to do it, but it doesn't work (boot failed) | 10:34 |
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valdur55 | how did you do that? | 10:36 |
valdur55 | You basically do tar :) | 10:36 |
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frafra | cd /media/Alt_OS && tar --numeric-owner -cJf /home/frafra/nemo-n950-rnd-20131120-unfreeze.tar.xz . | 10:37 |
valdur55 | what was file size? | 10:37 |
frafra | about 135 mb | 10:38 |
frafra | take in mind that xz works better than bz2 | 10:38 |
sledges | frafra: so, do i understand correctly: | 10:38 |
sledges | 1. you had working nemo (with unfreeze repo) | 10:38 |
sledges | 2. you tarred its rootfs as root with command above | 10:38 |
sledges | 3. you broke something | 10:39 |
sledges | 4. deleted rootfs, and untarred the one from tarball above? | 10:39 |
frafra | sledges, exactly | 10:39 |
sledges | ensuring you used root account (or via sudo) and always provided --numeric-owner ? | 10:40 |
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frafra | sledges, sure | 10:40 |
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sledges | well well | 10:45 |
sledges | you are just 4-5 commands away from that state you know that ;) | 10:45 |
frafra | hehe | 10:45 |
sledges | with original image | 10:45 |
sledges | unless you saved your wifi password :P | 10:45 |
sledges | so if it works with original image | 10:45 |
sledges | and you want to get to the bottom of this | 10:46 |
frafra | I would like to do it because if everything goes well, I could create a rootfs for everybody | 10:46 |
sledges | you can compare dir trees | 10:46 |
frafra | yes, I'll try to compare them | 10:47 |
sledges | frafra: or just fix the unfreeze bug ;) | 10:49 |
sledges | as that workaround won't be there for long | 10:49 |
frafra | last night I got sallifish os working, but I didn't reinstalled the unfreeze patch | 10:50 |
frafra | and I couldn't login using ssh on usb0 | 10:50 |
frafra | so, broken installation after 2-3 hours of work | 10:51 |
frafra | this is why I would like to snapshot :D | 10:51 |
frafra | then, I could create an image and share it with everybody | 10:51 |
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valdur55 | dd would be good enought :D | 10:51 |
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frafra | ok, maybe I found how to install it | 11:16 |
frafra | what is ssu-vendor-data-nemo? | 11:22 |
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sledges | nemo's ssu repos | 11:24 |
valdur55 | I found how to disable/ enable repo globally | 11:24 |
valdur55 | just use -G flag :D | 11:24 |
frafra | valdur55, great :D | 11:25 |
nightmare04 | Hi all, can you help me please with Nokia N9 16g and resize partition failure | 11:25 |
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sledges | nightmare04: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing#FATAL:_Re-partitioning_failed.21_You_might_be_in_trouble.21 | 11:25 |
nightmare04 | i see it, but no my | 11:25 |
nightmare04 | Disk /dev/mmcblk0: 15.8 GB, 15896412160 bytes 4 heads, 16 sectors/track, 485120 cylinders Units = cylinders of 64 * 512 = 32768 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/mmcblk0p1 17 160512 5135872 c Win95 FAT32 (LBA) Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary /dev/mmcblk0p3 419585 485120 2097152 83 Linux | 11:25 |
sledges | nightmare04: please use pastee | 11:26 |
nightmare04 | http://pastebin.com/HeuR4QLM | 11:27 |
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sledges | nightmare04: give me 10min | 11:28 |
nightmare04 | ok | 11:28 |
sledges | in the meantime, telnet into device ;) | 11:30 |
sledges | nightmare04: ^ | 11:30 |
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nightmare04 | already | 11:30 |
sledges | cat /var/log/repartition.log | 11:31 |
nightmare04 | FATAL: resizing of Harmattan User partition failed! | 11:32 |
sledges | oki | 11:32 |
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frafra | where to find jolla-xt9-0.4.1-10.6.1.jolla.armv7hl.rpm ? | 11:39 |
sledges | isn't that for hardware adaptation? (N/A to nokia n9xx) | 11:40 |
frafra | I don't know: I told zypper to ignore it | 11:40 |
frafra | but I have no gui now | 11:41 |
frafra | I can still login with ssh | 11:41 |
frafra | how it could be? | 11:43 |
sledges | if you have no gui, doesn't mean absense of that package is at fault | 11:44 |
sledges | see journalctl | 11:44 |
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nightmare04 | sledges, what should I do | 11:45 |
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sledges | nightmare04: im writing tutorial | 11:45 |
sledges | 4mins :D | 11:45 |
nightmare04 | Ok:) | 11:45 |
sledges | as i had your case last friday | 11:45 |
frafra | it's full of messages :D | 11:45 |
sledges | frafra: :)) | 11:46 |
sledges | good :)) | 11:46 |
sledges | frafra: do `zypper se mesa` | 11:46 |
sledges | if you have mesa packages | 11:46 |
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sledges | remove one of them, and correct ti-* ones will be automatically pulled in | 11:46 |
valdur55 | Interesting | 11:47 |
frafra | I have no ti-* packages | 11:47 |
valdur55 | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6508851/ | 11:47 |
sledges | frafra: you must have, they are N9's graphics core | 11:47 |
frafra | wich package should install? | 11:47 |
sledges | sgx | 11:47 |
sledges | zypper se sgx | 11:48 |
sledges | show me the list ;P | 11:48 |
frafra | http://pastebin.com/DfdHPfw0 | 11:48 |
sledges | frafra: they are installed | 11:49 |
frafra | sledges, what it could be? | 11:50 |
sledges | upload journalctl output somewhere | 11:51 |
sledges | can be many many things | 11:51 |
sledges | especially when nemo works, and sailfish doesnt, on same hardware, so ;) | 11:51 |
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sledges | nightmare04: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing#Only_partition_1_and_3_are_seen | 11:55 |
frafra | sledges, it's more than 500kb | 11:56 |
nightmare04 | Thanks, try it now | 11:56 |
sledges | frafra: reboot and dump it right away | 11:56 |
nightmare04 | in fdisk "o"? | 11:57 |
frafra | sledges, ok | 11:57 |
nightmare04 | to create partition? | 11:57 |
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sledges | nightmare04: | 11:57 |
sledges | n | 11:57 |
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frafra | sledges, http://paste.debian.net/68846/ | 12:00 |
sledges | frafra: ls -l /home/ | 12:00 |
frafra | nemo here | 12:01 |
nightmare04 | sledges, if i run MOSLO with this command "sudo flasher -k usr/share/moslo/zImage-moslo -n usr/share/moslo/initrd-moslo -l -b" can i reboot? | 12:01 |
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sledges | nightmare04: yes | 12:01 |
sledges | frafra: | 12:01 |
sledges | i need -l | 12:01 |
sledges | ;) | 12:01 |
frafra | sledges, sorry :D | 12:02 |
frafra | drwx------ 18 nemo nemo 4096 1970-01-01 01:00 nemo | 12:02 |
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sledges | nemo? | 12:02 |
sledges | have you tinkered with /etc/passwd ? | 12:02 |
frafra | sledges, no | 12:02 |
frafra | drwxr-xr-x 2 nemo nemo 4096 1970-01-01 01:00 Desktop | 12:03 |
frafra | all like this | 12:03 |
sledges | frafra: `find /lib/systemd/system | grep session` | 12:03 |
frafra | http://pastie.org/8522690 | 12:03 |
sledges | frafra: `systemctl | grep session` | 12:04 |
frafra | empty | 12:05 |
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sledges | frafra: `systemctl-user | grep session` | 12:05 |
frafra | not running | 12:05 |
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frafra | sledges, the nemo wallpaper seems blinking sometimes | 12:08 |
sledges | lockscreen wallpaper? | 12:08 |
frafra | sledges, no, boot wallpaper | 12:08 |
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frafra | sledges, I launched zypper up; everything ok; reboot; no ssh, blue blinking boot wallpaper | 12:16 |
frafra | :( | 12:16 |
frafra | this is very frustrating | 12:17 |
sledges | starting my n9 is more like http://magicoftucson.com/img/car-show-hand-crank.jpg | 12:17 |
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sledges | frafra: you break the integrity of nemo, if course there be dragons ;) | 12:20 |
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frafra | sledges, some people did it, they wrote some tutorial, but they are wrong. This is sadic :D | 12:21 |
sledges | well they got it on video ;) | 12:23 |
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sledges | maybe those are the teeny n9 -v- n950 differences? | 12:23 |
frafra | sledges, two time sadic :D | 12:24 |
frafra | don't know I don't think so | 12:24 |
sledges | anyway | 12:25 |
sledges | those are the people to talk to | 12:25 |
frafra | last night was working | 12:25 |
sledges | because what i expect in nemo is ls -l /home appearing as 100000:100000 nemo | 12:25 |
sledges | ooi, you can do `grep nemo /etc/passwd` | 12:25 |
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frafra | let me see | 12:26 |
frafra | permissions are ok | 12:29 |
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sledges | frafra: `systemctl status user-session@100000.service` | 12:31 |
frafra | sledges, I can't run it; ssh is not working anymore | 12:31 |
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sledges | sounds like a nightmare :) | 12:32 |
sledges | revert and don't zypper up | 12:32 |
sledges | guys did tutorial yesterday-ish, using some prebuilt nemo image, very likely zypper up introduces more breakages, or tries to revert things nemo way | 12:33 |
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valdur55 | you should remove nemo and mer-core repos | 12:35 |
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nightmare04 | sledges, my N9 in cycling reboot:( boot only with MOLSO, after fdisk and create partition boot harmattan, i try to run MOLSO and format partiotion but error "mkfs.ext4: symbol lookup error: mkfs.ext4: undefined symbol: set_com_err_gettext" | 12:39 |
nightmare04 | try to format with Gparted | 12:40 |
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nightmare04 | download original firmware? and try again | 12:44 |
sledges | nightmare04: you need to format via host pc | 12:44 |
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nightmare04 | yes | 12:44 |
sledges | as per tutorial | 12:44 |
nightmare04 | formated by GParted | 12:45 |
nightmare04 | create partition table and format | 12:45 |
sledges | can you still boot harmattan? | 12:45 |
nightmare04 | no cycling reboot but can boot in MOLSO | 12:46 |
sledges | did you follow the tutorial and checked that mounting partition 2 shows harmattan rootfs? | 12:46 |
nightmare04 | yes | 12:46 |
nightmare04 | harmattan boot after that | 12:46 |
sledges | 12:45 < sledges> can you still boot harmattan? | 12:47 |
nightmare04 | but after run in MOLSO it has cycling reboot :) | 12:47 |
sledges | so | 12:47 |
sledges | 1. you created partition 2 | 12:47 |
nightmare04 | yes | 12:47 |
sledges | 2. rebooted into harmattan - ok | 12:47 |
nightmare04 | yes | 12:47 |
sledges | 3. rebooted back to moslo | 12:47 |
sledges | 4. created partition 4 | 12:47 |
nightmare04 | yes | 12:47 |
sledges | 5. harmattan bootcycles | 12:47 |
nightmare04 | yes | 12:48 |
sledges | well, thats too weird to be true | 12:48 |
sledges | i have to go now | 12:48 |
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nightmare04 | ok | 12:48 |
sledges | you can try nemo now, since you can boot to moslo | 12:48 |
sledges | just extract nemo rootfs into exported partition | 12:49 |
sledges | and we can try to resurrect your harmattan when im back | 12:49 |
sledges | in an hour | 12:49 |
nightmare04 | ok will wait | 12:49 |
sledges | nightmare04: you can try nemo now | 12:50 |
sledges | if we fail to bring you harma back, you will then need to flash orig firmware | 12:50 |
sledges | bbl | 12:50 |
nightmare04 | after extract nemo on partiotion nothing boot:) i will try again | 12:51 |
sledges | yea, you need to reboot once at least | 12:51 |
sledges | have fun | 12:51 |
nightmare04 | ok i download original firmware:) | 12:51 |
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sledges | nightmare04: lol | 13:47 |
nightmare04 | yes i'm here:) | 13:48 |
nightmare04 | Just flash with original firmware and booting:) | 13:48 |
sledges | i just commenter your last text ;) give up already ;) | 13:48 |
sledges | ? | 13:48 |
sledges | good :) | 13:48 |
nightmare04 | And will try to install nemo:))))))))))))) | 13:49 |
sledges | hope you won't end up in the same state? ;) | 13:49 |
nightmare04 | No:)))) | 13:49 |
merlin1991 | hey, I'm trying to grok howto abuse libcommhistory to dump all sms, but for some reason the model is still empty after my call of getEvents | 13:51 |
merlin1991 | so I guess I should look into how the nemo messaging app loads sms, though I lack the application name / package | 13:52 |
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sledges | qmlmessages merlin1991 | 13:53 |
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merlin1991 | damn it's using org.nemomobile.commhistory in qml --> gotta look into that :) | 13:57 |
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sledges | check nemo-qml-plugin* | 14:00 |
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nightmare04 | sledges, after flashing orig firmware MyDocs partition small, and MOLSO do not run | 14:11 |
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sledges | what do you mean moslo doesn't run? | 14:12 |
nightmare04 | moment | 14:13 |
nightmare04 | ERROR: Limits for Harmattan User partition could not be satisfied! | 14:13 |
nightmare04 | Part size: 18463744 Required min part size: 14336000 | 14:13 |
nightmare04 | Free space: 6976896 Required min free space: 9216000 | 14:13 |
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sledges | nightmare04: your MyDocs is full of stuff, please clean up/backup/delete | 14:14 |
nightmare04 | Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System | 14:15 |
nightmare04 | /dev/mmcblk0p1 17 288512 9231872 c Win95 FAT32 (LBA) | 14:15 |
nightmare04 | /dev/mmcblk0p2 288513 419584 4194304 83 Linux | 14:15 |
nightmare04 | /dev/mmcblk0p3 419585 485120 2097152 83 Linux | 14:15 |
nightmare04 | i try to find anything stuff, but not find | 14:16 |
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sledges | mount /dev/mmcblk0p1 /mnt/ ; df -h /mnt/ | 14:16 |
nightmare04 | moment reboot. | 14:17 |
sledges | boot to harmattan | 14:17 |
sledges | you can then use usb as mass storage, to see your mydocs | 14:17 |
sledges | and investigate more (what's its actual size etc) | 14:17 |
nightmare04 | yes, but not find MyDocs ~500 mb and free ~3.6 GB | 14:18 |
sledges | ? | 14:18 |
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valdur55 | MyDocs have label: "Nokia N9" | 14:19 |
nightmare04 | yes, but not find stuff, MyDocs ~500 mb and free ~3.6 GB | 14:19 |
valdur55 | are you using linux? | 14:20 |
nightmare04 | yes | 14:20 |
valdur55 | use baobab | 14:20 |
valdur55 | to check what eats your drive space | 14:20 |
nightmare04 | df -h /mnt/ | 14:21 |
sledges | it might be you did not reformat your mydocs after reinstalling harmattan | 14:21 |
sledges | and getting fiddly with partition resizing before | 14:21 |
nightmare04 | Filesystem Size Used Available Use% Mounted on | 14:21 |
nightmare04 | /dev/mmcblk0p1 4.9G 1.6G 3.3G 32% /mnt | 14:21 |
sledges | nightmare04: can you backup your mydocs please? fully | 14:22 |
nightmare04 | There's nothing important in MyDocs | 14:23 |
sledges | good :D | 14:23 |
sledges | then let's boot to moslo and let the havoc begin :D | 14:23 |
nightmare04 | in moslo... tell what do:) | 14:24 |
sledges | however, there are some important directory structure under MyDocs | 14:24 |
sledges | which would be good to restore | 14:24 |
sledges | so backup is handy | 14:24 |
sledges | we can risk without though ;) | 14:24 |
nightmare04 | ok | 14:24 |
sledges | ok | 14:25 |
sledges | so | 14:25 |
sledges | fdisk | 14:25 |
sledges | ;) | 14:25 |
nightmare04 | wait:))) | 14:25 |
sledges | fdisk /dev/mmcblk0 -c=dos | 14:25 |
sledges | when you're ready ^_^ | 14:25 |
nightmare04 | fdisk: invalid option -- 'c' | 14:28 |
nightmare04 | sledges, ^ | 14:28 |
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nightmare04 | enter without -c:) what next | 14:29 |
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sledges | :< | 14:30 |
sledges | not good | 14:30 |
sledges | need -c | 14:30 |
sledges | :D | 14:30 |
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sledges | you can try though: | 14:30 |
sledges | delete partition 1 | 14:31 |
sledges | create partition 1 | 14:31 |
sledges | set start cyl at 17 | 14:31 |
sledges | see if says value out of range | 14:31 |
sledges | (don't save changes after it ;)) | 14:31 |
nightmare04 | 17-288512 | 14:32 |
sledges | worked? | 14:32 |
sledges | did it accept 17 ? | 14:32 |
nightmare04 | yes | 14:32 |
sledges | awesome | 14:32 |
sledges | delete it | 14:32 |
sledges | :D | 14:32 |
sledges | you need to specify: | 14:33 |
sledges | start:17 | 14:33 |
sledges | end: | 14:33 |
sledges | ...calculating.. | 14:33 |
nightmare04 | Command (m for help): d | 14:33 |
nightmare04 | Partition number (1-4): 1 | 14:33 |
nightmare04 | Command (m for help): n | 14:33 |
nightmare04 | Command action | 14:33 |
nightmare04 | e extended | 14:33 |
nightmare04 | p primary partition (1-4) | 14:33 |
sledges | 160512 | 14:33 |
nightmare04 | p | 14:33 |
sledges | p | 14:33 |
nightmare04 | Partition number (1-4): 1 | 14:33 |
nightmare04 | First cylinder (1-485120, default 1): 17 | 14:33 |
nightmare04 | Last cylinder or +size or +sizeM or +sizeK (17-288512, default 288512): 288512 | 14:33 |
sledges | start:17 | 14:33 |
sledges | end:160512 | 14:33 |
sledges | pls | 14:33 |
sledges | ;P | 14:33 |
nightmare04 | delete 1 part | 14:34 |
nightmare04 | create 1 part | 14:34 |
nightmare04 | start 17 | 14:34 |
nightmare04 | end 160512 | 14:34 |
nightmare04 | ? | 14:34 |
sledges | yes | 14:34 |
sledges | now | 14:34 |
sledges | press | 14:34 |
sledges | t | 14:34 |
sledges | partition 1 | 14:34 |
sledges | type = c | 14:34 |
sledges | (W95 FAT32 (LBA)) | 14:34 |
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nightmare04 | yes | 14:35 |
nightmare04 | next | 14:35 |
sledges | create partition 4 | 14:36 |
sledges | start:160513 | 14:36 |
sledges | end:288512 | 14:36 |
nightmare04 | yes | 14:36 |
nightmare04 | next | 14:36 |
sledges | w | 14:37 |
nightmare04 | next | 14:37 |
sledges | mount /dev/mmcblk0p1 /mnt/ ; ls -l /mnt/ | 14:38 |
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nightmare04 | worked | 14:38 |
nightmare04 | my MyDocs | 14:38 |
sledges | \o/ | 14:38 |
sledges | umount /mnt/ | 14:38 |
* sledges loves vfat | 14:38 | |
* sledges hides | 14:38 | |
frafra | nightmare04, sledges is a magician | 14:38 |
nightmare04 | frafra, yes:))) | 14:39 |
sledges | or a frustrated MOSLO user :)) | 14:39 |
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frafra | eheh | 14:39 |
sledges | so, nightmare04, reboot to moslo again | 14:39 |
nightmare04 | moment:) | 14:39 |
sledges | and now it will export a partition to your host PC | 14:39 |
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nightmare04 | mkfs.ext4 -L 'Alt_OS' /dev/sdc? on host machine? | 14:43 |
sledges | yes! | 14:43 |
sledges | :D | 14:43 |
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nightmare04 | sudo mount /dev/sdd /media/Alt_OS/ | 14:45 |
sledges | erm | 14:45 |
sledges | sdc | 14:45 |
sledges | or | 14:45 |
sledges | sdd | 14:45 |
sledges | be careful | 14:45 |
sledges | ;) | 14:45 |
nightmare04 | sudo tar --numeric-owner -xf nemo-n950-rnd-20131120.tar.bz2 -C /media/Alt_OS/ ? | 14:46 |
sledges | nightmare04: did you format the right thing ooi? | 14:46 |
nightmare04 | Yes:)))) all right:))) | 14:46 |
nightmare04 | at last was sdc now sdd:))) | 14:46 |
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sledges | :DD | 14:48 |
sledges | so | 14:48 |
sledges | with hope you are doing everything right | 14:48 |
sledges | extract that nemo now ;) | 14:48 |
nightmare04 | Done:) | 14:48 |
sledges | afterwards, do `sync` and `umount` | 14:48 |
sledges | so, when you now unplug the cable | 14:48 |
sledges | moslo should find nemo | 14:48 |
sledges | and offer to boot | 14:48 |
sledges | it might not work first time round, you might need to reboot to moslo again | 14:49 |
sledges | enjoy | 14:49 |
sledges | ! | 14:49 |
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nightmare04 | YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | 14:50 |
nightmare04 | Thanks:))))) NEMO logo | 14:50 |
sledges | :D \o/ | 14:50 |
sledges | that is just the beginning (of the end) ;) | 14:51 |
nightmare04 | but nothing work:))))) | 14:51 |
sledges | :D | 14:51 |
sledges | do you have graphics? | 14:51 |
nightmare04 | yes | 14:52 |
sledges | (lockscreen) | 14:52 |
nightmare04 | click on icons and nothing | 14:52 |
sledges | nightmare04: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing#Wayland.2FQt5 | 14:52 |
sledges | read the red issue ;) | 14:52 |
nightmare04 | telnet work on 192.168.2.15?:))) | 14:53 |
sledges | ssh | 14:53 |
frafra | how to add a global repository with ssu? | 14:53 |
nightmare04 | login and pass? | 14:54 |
sledges | frafra: -G ? just from the backlog | 14:54 |
sledges | nightmare04: nemo:nemo | 14:54 |
frafra | sledges, no output doesn't work | 14:54 |
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sledges | frafra: i think valdur55 was mentioning it | 14:56 |
nightmare04 | and how connect internet on N9 to load this fix??? | 14:56 |
frafra | sledges, for zypper yes, and it works | 14:56 |
frafra | nightmare04, https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/USBNetworking | 14:56 |
sledges | nightmare04: same like telnetting | 14:57 |
valdur55 | -G flag would be logical.... | 14:58 |
nightmare04 | [root@localhost nemo]# route add default gw 192.168.2.14 | 15:04 |
nightmare04 | [root@localhost nemo]# route add default gw 192.168.2.14 | 15:04 |
nightmare04 | bash: route: command not found | 15:04 |
nightmare04 | sledges, ^ | 15:05 |
nightmare04 | and no ifconfig:( | 15:05 |
sledges | nightmare04: | 15:05 |
sledges | /sbin/route | 15:05 |
* sledges fixes wiki.. | 15:06 | |
nightmare04 | work | 15:06 |
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nightmare04 | and dns in resolv.conf don work | 15:08 |
nightmare04 | don't | 15:08 |
sledges | echo nameserver 8.8.8.8 > /etc/resolv.conf | 15:08 |
nightmare04 | i now:))) add to wiki;))) | 15:08 |
sledges | can you add? ;) | 15:09 |
nightmare04 | i'm Russian, my English bad;)))))))))))))))) | 15:09 |
frafra | sledges, I'm trying to write a simple tutorial while trying to install sallifish properly | 15:09 |
frafra | route should work without using /sbin/route | 15:10 |
nightmare04 | no | 15:10 |
nightmare04 | only /sbin/ | 15:10 |
sledges | "echo nameserver 8.8.8.8 > /etc/resolv.conf" - what english? :D | 15:10 |
nightmare04 | Ok:)))) | 15:10 |
frafra | nightmare04, are you using telnet? | 15:10 |
nightmare04 | ssh | 15:11 |
sledges | frafra: not in mer world, sbin is not under path, i think it's some posix and/or opensuse convention | 15:11 |
frafra | mmm... | 15:11 |
frafra | I can use route as root both on telnet and mer | 15:11 |
frafra | just tried | 15:11 |
locusf | also ip route add default via 192.168.2.14 works | 15:16 |
locusf | without /sbin | 15:16 |
locusf | anyways | 15:16 |
sledges | locusf, what up? :) | 15:17 |
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sledges | for sbin, probably ssh environment wrong ;) but that might be intentional legacy relic | 15:22 |
locusf | sledges: nothing much | 15:26 |
sledges | how's jolla as daily phone? ;) | 15:27 |
locusf | bad battery and clock is wrong in auto mode :p | 15:27 |
sledges | short battery life you mean? | 15:27 |
locusf | known bug, fix not yet deployed | 15:27 |
locusf | yeah | 15:27 |
sledges | not asking what you do with it :D | 15:28 |
locusf | IMO though | 15:28 |
sledges | when you tried to put glacier on day 1 ;)) | 15:28 |
locusf | I've used to 7 days battery with gnote | 15:29 |
locusf | so thats probably why I think its bad :p | 15:29 |
frafra | wgere can I find libjollasignonuiservice-qt5-0.0.33-10.7.2.jolla.armv7hl.rpm? | 15:29 |
juiceme | hmm as I am looking in Jolla's /var/log i see no syslog or messages or anything like that? | 15:30 |
juiceme | why is that... how does Mer handle logging? There was some strange command people used...? | 15:30 |
locusf | frafra: http://t.co/xCeQhQ6gbQ | 15:30 |
locusf | juiceme: journalctl -f -a | 15:30 |
juiceme | that's it :) | 15:31 |
juiceme | thanks | 15:31 |
locusf | np | 15:31 |
frafra | locusf, old version | 15:31 |
locusf | oh | 15:31 |
frafra | why this package is not available? | 15:31 |
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locusf | I dunno | 15:32 |
frafra | and why jolla-xt9* are always missing? | 15:34 |
juiceme | locusf, how do I see logs from previous boot? | 15:36 |
sledges | juiceme: it's volatile, no-one once NAND worn prematurely :) | 15:37 |
sledges | *wants | 15:37 |
sledges | (or expanding big files/out of space) | 15:38 |
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juiceme | sledges, wot? | 15:39 |
nightmare04 | where i can find jolla-xt9-cp-0.1.1-10.2.2.jolla.armv7hl.rpm? | 15:40 |
juiceme | dammit, that' not nice... see I had my first sopntaneous reboot | 15:40 |
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alterego | nightmare04: #jollamobile ? | 15:41 |
juiceme | so naturally I'd look into syslogs to know what was the thing that blew | 15:41 |
valdur55 | juiceme: can your share your nemo image? :D | 15:41 |
nightmare04 | not find in repos:( | 15:41 |
juiceme | valdur55, in theory I could, propably | 15:41 |
alterego | I'm just wondering why people are talking about jolla in here ;) | 15:41 |
juiceme | I'm not sure if it is allowed though | 15:41 |
sledges | juiceme: you can't get log of previous boots | 15:42 |
juiceme | sledges, I see the reason for it, not to waste flash for it, yes | 15:42 |
sledges | 15:39 < juiceme> sledges, wot? | 15:42 |
sledges | ^_^ | 15:42 |
juiceme | I was not aware of it | 15:43 |
sledges | i thought you didn't understand my non-straightforward answer *g* | 15:43 |
sledges | a ok :) | 15:43 |
sledges | that's rule of thumb of an embedded system | 15:43 |
sledges | sadly many BSPs fail in that regard, and then pay costly later on | 15:43 |
juiceme | so, there's no way of knowint what went under, altought I suspect it was RAN handover | 15:43 |
* sledges shrugs | 15:44 | |
juiceme | sledges, well I have syslog on flash on my N9 :) | 15:44 |
sledges | there you go :D | 15:45 |
juiceme | but hey, might there not be a panic handler that would write core or something nice... | 15:45 |
sledges | given you know the logging intensity, you can even calculate the time when nand will get scrubbed to bone ;) | 15:45 |
Hurrian | nightmare04: i'm assuming it's an on-device package | 15:46 |
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frafra | sledges, good news here | 16:27 |
sledges | are they realy? | 16:28 |
frafra | yep I figure out why it was asking me for a missing package | 16:28 |
frafra | the key is: downgrade | 16:28 |
frafra | zypper in -t jolla-ambient jolla-camera # this command allows you to downgrade the component that require the missing package | 16:28 |
sledges | how cool | 16:29 |
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frafra | so: install the strange package manually, try to install jolla stuff, ignore missing packages, launch the second command to downgrade a couple of components, then use dup to downgrade everything else and make it working | 16:30 |
sledges | congrats with your sailfish, frafra | 16:31 |
frafra | I'll try to relase a rootfs | 16:31 |
frafra | *release | 16:32 |
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Hurrian | oh uhh, do you guys have haptics and audio working? | 16:33 |
Hurrian | i might need to install sailfish's ngfd. | 16:33 |
w00t | ngfd is the same code inside as out | 16:37 |
w00t | the only part that differs is the configurations | 16:37 |
Hurrian | so... ngfd-settings-sailfish it is. | 16:38 |
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Hurrian | can't push the button to connect to wifi either, but it's probably a bug somewhere else. heading off to bed now, got SFOS running almost perfectly and I'm happy with a hack :P | 16:41 |
Hurrian | night all! | 16:41 |
wazd_ | hi | 16:42 |
wazd_ | or bye I guess :D | 16:42 |
tbr | frafra: If its clean, I can host it | 16:44 |
frafra | tbr, thank you | 16:44 |
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juiceme | valdur55, ping? | 17:07 |
Stskeeps | just remember guys, even if it's possible to have a shiny sailfish on your n950s, it doesn't mean glacier is not important | 17:08 |
Stskeeps | :P | 17:08 |
sledges | +1 | 17:09 |
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tbr | +1 | 17:13 |
valdur55 | ajalkane: pong | 17:13 |
valdur55 | juiceme: pong | 17:13 |
sledges | open-source software fans will stick to glacier, but those who like sailfish as-is, will help testing parts of nemomobile on n9xx nevertheless ;) | 17:15 |
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frafra | sledges, important news: gui doesn't start because the missing xt9 packages don't let the installation finish correctly | 17:22 |
frafra | this is why it's needed to install a, then a and b, then a and b and c... | 17:22 |
michaelmhk | Hi all, I'm new to irc | 17:22 |
frafra | hi michaelmhk | 17:22 |
sledges | hi michaelmhk | 17:22 |
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valdur55 | frafra: good. You are learning :) | 17:24 |
michaelmhk | I installed sailfish os successfully on my n9, the edge gesture direction rotated 90 degree | 17:25 |
valdur55 | I played some today with "dead" phone. No UI (even spash) and i ssh-ed to device :D | 17:25 |
michaelmhk | and the n9 proximity sensor didn't work due to not yet port to qt5? | 17:26 |
frafra | I don't know but... how you have installed sailfish os on n9? | 17:28 |
valdur55 | I started with older nemo image ( X11 ) and got same state as you ( spash screen and ssh acces ). I started today again and i havent got it working yet.... | 17:29 |
michaelmhk | trial and error :), but still missing jolla-xt9 jolla-xt9-cp | 17:29 |
frafra | michaelmhk, this is something that is not available | 17:29 |
frafra | that's the problem | 17:29 |
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Morpog_PC | I think it's a bit sad and bittersweet, that only now people start to populate this channel. Though , no one is really interested into Glacier.... | 17:34 |
Stskeeps | they should be | 17:34 |
Stskeeps | :P | 17:34 |
sledges | people are interested in a usable system, which sailfish provides | 17:34 |
Morpog_PC | not really, on a N9 as far as what I have seen | 17:34 |
sledges | although how usable it will be on n9, i wonder | 17:34 |
Stskeeps | not sure why everybody comes in here though, a post somewhere? | 17:34 |
sledges | so, it's good, they will see that you can't have much control over sailfish to put it to n9's submission, and will resort to nemo ;) | 17:35 |
Morpog_PC | given the energy they put into sailfish, Glacier would have improved significantly over the last days... | 17:35 |
sledges | 100% FOSS project ;) (excluding hardware adaptation) | 17:35 |
sledges | give it some time | 17:35 |
sledges | im happy i could complete the dreaded MOSLO partition bug wiki thanks to them :D | 17:36 |
Morpog_PC | Stskeeps, I guess they read Nemo wiki and that points to here | 17:36 |
Morpog_PC | lol sledges :D | 17:36 |
frafra | Morpog_Mobile, I didn't found any tutorial for testing Glacier | 17:36 |
Morpog_PC | at least that will help me in a few days/weeks | 17:37 |
Morpog_PC | well, tehre is not much to test | 17:37 |
sledges | frafra: no tutorial doesn't mean you cannot ask here, links to twitter.com/nemomobile are in wiki, (tweest show glacier state) | 17:37 |
frafra | thank sledges | 17:38 |
Morpog_PC | frafra: /usr/lib/qt5/examples QT_QUICK_CONTROLS_STYLE=Nemo ./touch_nemo -platform wayland | 17:38 |
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sledges | frafra: Morpog_PC, more complete: zypper in qt5-qtquickcontrols-nemo-examples; cd /usr/lib/qt5/examples; QT_QUICK_CONTROLS_STYLE=Nemo ./touch_nemo -platform wayland | 17:39 |
Morpog_PC | :D | 17:40 |
frafra | hehe | 17:40 |
frafra | thanks | 17:40 |
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michaelmhk | I have been keep updating nemo, until wayland, it hard for me to follow up | 17:41 |
michaelmhk | I mean using nemo | 17:42 |
sledges | it's more about "developing" rather than "using" ;) | 17:43 |
sledges | it's a fun playground, with latest toys around ^_^ | 17:43 |
sledges | e.g. middleware is as rock solid as jolla's (because it's one and the same thing :)) | 17:44 |
Morpog_PC | and even a totally newbie like I am can do some stuff | 17:44 |
sledges | anyone can chip in, given it's an full operating system for interactive devices | 17:45 |
ryukafalz | well I am very interested in glacier ;) though not really as a developer at the moment, got too much other stuff to do | 17:47 |
sledges | ryukafalz: great! | 17:48 |
ryukafalz | but honestly I'm more interested in glacier than sailfish haha | 17:48 |
ryukafalz | as sailfish's ui isn't open | 17:48 |
* sledges <- what he said ^_^ | 17:49 | |
ryukafalz | also the glacier concept art looks amazing | 17:50 |
sledges | +1 | 17:50 |
frafra | sledges, sailfish works now | 17:50 |
frafra | yep | 17:50 |
sledges | and it's all in your hands of how it will be implemented and evolve over time | 17:51 |
sledges | from homescreen to browser | 17:51 |
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michaelmhk | What is the status of appformeego, mer, nemomobile and glacier now? I'm new to the FOSS world :) | 17:53 |
sledges | nemo: www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKiGdIQraCQ | 17:54 |
sledges | mer is the core | 17:54 |
sledges | meego apps - many, many dead, many portable, etc | 17:56 |
ryukafalz | sledges: some things seemed a bit slow in that video, is that because of the hardware it's running on? | 17:56 |
ryukafalz | looks like an N9? | 17:57 |
sledges | ofc is n9 | 17:57 |
sledges | slow things = old non optimised apps | 17:57 |
sledges | we just ported all stock apps from qt4 to qt5, and haven't optimised them | 17:57 |
ryukafalz | ahh okay | 17:57 |
michaelmhk | I want to learn writing application on nemo, but it seem qt component is different on harmattan, also wayland break something? | 17:57 |
sledges | senseless to opimise, because they will first be rewritten using new glacier components that we are working atm | 17:58 |
sledges | michaelmhk: current nemo version is using qtcomponents, which are compatible with harmattan (you write import com.nokia.meego.*) | 17:58 |
sledges | but soon we will transition to new glacier component set (using QtQuick Controls), where we are aiming to make porting as easy as can be | 17:59 |
ryukafalz | was the keyboard one of those ported apps? | 17:59 |
sledges | keyboard is maliit framework - separate project upstream | 18:00 |
sledges | we are re-using it as overlay "app", and contributing upstream | 18:00 |
sledges | providing our own glacier skin according to specs | 18:00 |
sledges | no need to have components' qml involved here | 18:00 |
ryukafalz | ah that's the same keyboard as ubuntu touch is using isn't it? | 18:01 |
sledges | same as jolla phone is using | 18:01 |
frafra | I can't receive phonecalls, and when I try to make one I can hear the voice but the screen goes black | 18:01 |
sledges | probably many other vkb solutions choose maliit | 18:01 |
sledges | frafra: i can't really help you, because phonecalls in pure nemo are more usable (not 100% still, need work); now you put sailfish layers+repos on top, who knows what more it broke :/ | 18:02 |
Morpog_PC | could be proximity sensor fault | 18:03 |
sledges | +1 | 18:03 |
ryukafalz | Does maliit as you're using it support multitouch? When I was trying ubuntu I noticed it didn't, but the maliit wiki says the version used by the N9 did have it | 18:04 |
Morpog_PC | dunno, hard to test on VM with mouse :) | 18:04 |
sledges | ryukafalz: like Shift+a = A ? :) | 18:04 |
* sledges looks | 18:05 | |
ryukafalz | sledges: Yep, but without releasing shift | 18:05 |
piggz | so, how many peeps running sailfish on the n9[50] ? | 18:05 |
frafra | sledges, on nemo I have exactly the same problem | 18:05 |
sledges | no, doesn't work on glacier maliit here | 18:05 |
sledges | unsure if there's a switch | 18:06 |
Morpog_PC | looks like a task for ryukafalz | 18:06 |
sledges | ;) | 18:06 |
ryukafalz | haha well... :P | 18:06 |
Morpog_PC | u can make it :D | 18:07 |
ryukafalz | huh, both the meego keyboard and the reference maliit keyboard are open source... | 18:08 |
* ryukafalz pokes around | 18:08 | |
sledges | frafra: just tested, you are right, screen goes black ;) I believe it's a regression, as it used to work fine; worth checking prox sensor code just like Morpog_PC said (if the sensor always thinks it's being tripped) | 18:08 |
Morpog_PC | ryukafalz, I got another shocker for you: Everything in nemomobile is open source | 18:08 |
ryukafalz | Morpog_PC: well yeah, but I wasn't sure about N9 stuff :P | 18:09 |
ryukafalz | their keyboard code seemed like the kind of thing that might be closed, like most of the harmattan UI | 18:09 |
Morpog_PC | I think the extension nokia had on maliit are still closed source | 18:10 |
ryukafalz | ah, and the haptics bit was a closed plugin looks like | 18:10 |
Morpog_PC | like word auto correction, etc. | 18:10 |
ryukafalz | hmm | 18:10 |
ryukafalz | this table is interesting... https://wiki.maliit.org/Plugins#Features | 18:11 |
special | the N9 keyboard was closed | 18:12 |
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sledges | old grave of haptics tutorial: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation/N9-N950#Haptics | 18:24 |
sledges | packages might have changed names, but fun for a fight :) | 18:24 |
sledges | Hurrian: ryukafalz: ^ | 18:27 |
sledges | maybe w00t could update ^ if something is out-of-hand | 18:27 |
ajalkane | valdur55: ping | 18:28 |
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valdur55 | ajalkane: pong.... it was wrong one :D sorry . | 18:42 |
ajalkane | hehe, no probs | 18:43 |
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locusf | sledges: I'll fix the label comments tomorrow | 19:00 |
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stephg | what's the latest with the homescreen | 19:13 |
stephg | it still seems to be utterly b0rked | 19:14 |
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Morpog_PC | stephg, tried the workaround? | 19:15 |
Wazd | Wow, Irc on bb10, neat :) | 19:15 |
Morpog_PC | stephg, see this link for a temporary fix: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing#Wayland.2FQt5 | 19:16 |
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stephg | Morpog_PC cool | 19:21 |
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krnlyng | hi, i am haveing an issue with nemo on my n9, i used a fresh install with the lastest image and if i boot the device it shows the nemo bootscreen and afterwards graphics go all weird and stuff is not drawn where it's supposed to be, and parts of the logo get displayed on the left side, what am i doing wrong? | 23:20 |
krnlyng | do i need the unfreeze stuff as described on the wiki? | 23:21 |
Morpog_PC | krnlyng, you need to use latest ubiboot or change a line in ubiboot config | 23:21 |
krnlyng | Morpog_PC: i think i have the lastest release of ubiboot, but what config line is that? | 23:22 |
Morpog_PC | when you got that bug, then you haven't latest | 23:22 |
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krnlyng | Morpog_PC: ok thanks :) | 23:24 |
Morpog_PC | searching | 23:24 |
Morpog_PC | !ubiboot | 23:25 |
Merbot` | Morpog_PC: Error: "ubiboot" is not a valid command. | 23:25 |
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krnlyng | Morpog_PC: is flashing a new image easier? | 23:28 |
Morpog_PC | i remember that you need to flash 2 things to fix it | 23:29 |
Morpog_PC | sledges or juiceme me know for sure | 23:29 |
krnlyng | so the ubiboot config change is faster :)? | 23:29 |
Morpog_PC | I think so, but I can't find the information either atm | 23:29 |
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krnlyng | Morpog_PC: i am using ubiboot 0.3.5, is there a newer version? | 23:34 |
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Morpog_PC | I think you need the latest cpio file too | 23:38 |
Morpog_PC | krnlyng, found it! | 23:39 |
krnlyng | Morpog_PC: i have the lastest one of that too^ | 23:40 |
krnlyng | oh yeah!! | 23:40 |
Morpog_PC | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation/N9-N950/Wayland | 23:40 |
Morpog_PC | see there: Boot : ubiboot (ONLY NEEDED FOR UBIBOOT 0.3.4 OR OLDER) | 23:40 |
Morpog_PC | this line was important iirc: | 23:40 |
Morpog_PC | +G_NEMO_INITSCRIPT="\/sbin\/init\ vram\=6m\ omapfb.vram\=0\:6M" | 23:40 |
krnlyng | Morpog_PC: thanks!! | 23:41 |
krnlyng | rebooting :) | 23:42 |
Morpog_PC | after that the bootscreen shouldn't stay tehre half | 23:42 |
Morpog_PC | but you could get the new bug :) | 23:42 |
krnlyng | Morpog_PC: thank you very much, it worked :) | 23:43 |
Morpog_PC | great | 23:43 |
krnlyng | sailfishos working :O :):) | 23:43 |
Morpog_PC | nice ;) | 23:43 |
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