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| LetoThe2nd | howdy! i just got my hands onto a n950, which drops into moslo and wants a meego rootfs. #meego suggested to go for a nemo/mer image, which i got from http://releases.nemomobile.org/snapshots/images/0.20130411.1.NEMO.2013-04-26.1/nemo-armv7hl-n950/ | 10:02 |
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| LetoThe2nd | so how can i proceed? | 10:04 |
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| LetoThe2nd | is https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing#Nokia_N950 the way to go? | 10:06 |
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| sledges | LetoThe2nd: yes | 10:18 |
| sledges | congrats on hands-on n950 \o/ | 10:18 |
| LetoThe2nd | sledges: ok, thanks | 10:18 |
| sledges | what are you interested in? | 10:18 |
| LetoThe2nd | having a linux system with a full keyboard :) | 10:19 |
| sledges | to get the most out of your n950 | 10:19 |
| sledges | ok | 10:19 |
| sledges | a daily phone perhaps? | 10:19 |
| sledges | (which is too much to ask from nemo today, but we are working on that ;)) | 10:20 |
| sledges | does it boot MeeGo/Harmattan, too? | 10:20 |
| LetoThe2nd | at the moment, it just has some moslo running. next plan is to follow these instructions. | 10:21 |
| sledges | interesting, means it hasn't got meego available/reachable | 10:22 |
| sledges | you could have best of both world ;) (dual boot) | 10:22 |
| sledges | as meego can be used as a daily phone linux system | 10:22 |
| sledges | but is no longer maintained | 10:22 |
| sledges | whereas get the latest and greatest (nemo is currently wayland/qt5, the image you chose of 26th April is no longer supported x11/qt4) | 10:22 |
| sledges | with nemo | 10:23 |
| LetoThe2nd | sledges: but where to get the functional meego? the given link wiki.meego.com/ARM/N950 is non functional by now. | 10:23 |
| sledges | you need to flash it | 10:23 |
| sledges | let me see | 10:23 |
| Merbot | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#475 waiting for review at https://build.merproject.org//request/show/475 | 10:24 |
| sledges | well, first can you telnet into it? | 10:25 |
| LetoThe2nd | i only got an usb connection at the moment. | 10:26 |
| sledges | with phone attached via USB, type ifconfig -a on your linux host, what do you see? | 10:26 |
| LetoThe2nd | eth and lo. the bootloader seems to only do the filesystem export over usb | 10:27 |
| sledges | we have two options | 10:28 |
| sledges | or one | 10:28 |
| sledges | :D | 10:28 |
| sledges | just flash nemo first | 10:28 |
| sledges | then we can look for traces of meego | 10:28 |
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| LetoThe2nd | "how?" | 10:29 |
| sledges | we have two options | 10:29 |
| sledges | old nemo | 10:29 |
| sledges | or | 10:29 |
| sledges | new nemo | 10:29 |
| sledges | your pick ;) | 10:29 |
| LetoThe2nd | whatever boots and you call better. | 10:29 |
| sledges | new nemo is better for heavy development | 10:29 |
| sledges | old nemo is better for trying to use as a phone | 10:30 |
| LetoThe2nd | old probably, then. | 10:30 |
| sledges | depends on your intentions | 10:30 |
| sledges | ok | 10:30 |
| sledges | you will need to download latest available "old nemo" then: http://releases.nemomobile.org/releases/0.20130620.0.1/images/nemo-armv7hl-n950/nemo-armv7hl-n950-0.20130620.0.1.tar.bz2 | 10:30 |
| LetoThe2nd | ok, downloading it. | 10:31 |
| sledges | very well | 10:31 |
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| sledges | has anyone had a one-character fix resolving the whole system crash? ;) | 10:43 |
| sledges | i had | 10:43 |
| sledges | well this time | 10:43 |
| sledges | is about commenting out two lines.... | 10:44 |
| sledges | ladies and gentlemen, the root of all evil on recent nemo n9 brekage: https://github.com/mer-packages/qtdeclarative/commit/b001763ba299202394b8ff02302f51e8496f5600 | 10:44 |
| sledges | w00t: im taking my words back, it wasn't the PinchArea ;) | 10:44 |
| sledges | anybody knows anything about delegates? ;) | 10:45 |
| sledges | and why is these two lines causing a halt? | 10:45 |
| sledges | I haven't had chance to debug this yet | 10:45 |
| rcg | huzza @sledges for fixing that issue :) | 10:45 |
| sledges | rcg: is not a fix, it'd be a revert :D | 10:45 |
| chriadam | sledges: so, delegates are constructed by the view | 10:45 |
| rcg | sledges, well, the issue is gone right? | 10:46 |
| chriadam | the view decides when to construct new delegates, based on the cachebuffer size | 10:46 |
| rcg | then i consider it a fix :D | 10:46 |
| chriadam | it decides when to release them (delayed deletion) based on the cachebuffer size and current contentY too | 10:46 |
| sledges | rcg: O_o :D | 10:46 |
| chriadam | that patch you link, ensures that spacing is taken into account when deciding which delegates to release | 10:46 |
| chriadam | otherwise you can hit a situation where a delegate is released and then immediately recreated, because the logic which determines when it will be created and when it will be delayed removed, used to be different (by the spacing amount) | 10:47 |
| chriadam | what evil did it actually cause? | 10:47 |
| sledges | on n9 | 10:48 |
| sledges | only touch down events are received | 10:48 |
| sledges | and touch-release are lost | 10:48 |
| chriadam | nah, these are the ones you should be looking at: | 10:49 |
| chriadam | https://github.com/mer-packages/qtdeclarative/commit/42284e3f71867e1d499048318b941e1fb213a7d1 | 10:49 |
| chriadam | https://github.com/mer-packages/qtdeclarative/commit/c48de2ae6d30ddffdf5eeca8ef8b46bd2e27a478 | 10:49 |
| sledges | i was hoping so | 10:49 |
| LetoThe2nd | so, download is finished | 10:49 |
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| sledges | LetoThe2nd: is there anything on the exported Alt_OS ? | 10:50 |
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| sledges | chriadam: you are right, the bug is still there | 10:50 |
| sledges | i need to revert more | 10:50 |
| sledges | sorry for false alarms | 10:50 |
| sledges | but the havoc wreaks apparently not during 100% of reboots | 10:50 |
| LetoThe2nd | sledges: it is not called alt_os... but yes, there seems to be a nemo (at least the ist /home/nemo) firsystem | 10:51 |
| sledges | LetoThe2nd: but it doesn't boot? | 10:51 |
| LetoThe2nd | nope | 10:52 |
| LetoThe2nd | or is there some magic key to try it? | 10:52 |
| sledges | the key is to unplug the usb | 10:53 |
| sledges | and see what moslo spits out | 10:53 |
| sledges | or behaves | 10:53 |
| LetoThe2nd | ok its completely powered off now. | 10:53 |
| sledges | when you pull out it just shuts down? | 10:53 |
| LetoThe2nd | yes. | 10:54 |
| sledges | ok so boot back to moslo | 10:54 |
| sledges | delete everything on that exported partition | 10:54 |
| LetoThe2nd | when i switch it on without usb, i get the nokia warning for 15secs or so... then moslo... | 10:54 |
| sledges | and then? | 10:54 |
| sledges | and if with usb? | 10:54 |
| LetoThe2nd | ah, and then some nome screen. first a blueish one, then some green/greyish pattern, then black | 10:55 |
| sledges | well some old nemo version it means | 10:55 |
| LetoThe2nd | ok, it now actually brought some gui up | 10:55 |
| sledges | just wipe it and you'll be fine | 10:55 |
| LetoThe2nd | wiping how? | 10:57 |
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| sledges | rm -rf /media/Alt_OS/* | 10:58 |
| sledges | whichever is called | 10:58 |
| sledges | prepend with sudo | 10:58 |
| sledges | prepend with care :) | 10:58 |
| sledges | chriadam: im totally baffled | 10:59 |
| sledges | we got 8th Nov nemo image which works | 10:59 |
| LetoThe2nd | hm can i use tabulators on this keyboard? | 10:59 |
| sledges | with qtdeclarative-5.1.0+git21 | 11:00 |
| sledges | attempts to update qtdeclarative cause problem to come back | 11:00 |
| LetoThe2nd | sledges: nothing in /media anyways. | 11:01 |
| chriadam | sledges: that's indicative of a lurking bug in the implementation :-/ i've mentioned the problem to mjones, hopefully he will look into it further. | 11:01 |
| sledges | now i got the latest image (zypper dup yesterday), and reverted qtdeclarative to 5.1.0+git21 , problem still there | 11:01 |
| sledges | LetoThe2nd: find where it is | 11:01 |
| chriadam | wait what? | 11:01 |
| chriadam | you've reverted to a qtdeclarative prior to when those patches were made? | 11:01 |
| chriadam | and the problem still exists? | 11:01 |
| sledges | not the mouse patches | 11:01 |
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| sledges | that tag is here of a working snapshot: https://github.com/mer-packages/qtdeclarative/commit/baed985c28bd263dcc2aa598a7078c0669addc38 | 11:02 |
| sledges | but it could be that not only qtdeclarative is the playing package in this puzzle | 11:02 |
| sledges | im now reverting prior to the two commits you gave me, will shed more light then | 11:03 |
| LetoThe2nd | sledges: can't find it. but uname -a gives me 2.6.32.20112201, and lsb_release -a says Mer release 0.2011 | 11:03 |
| chriadam | sledges: is that on X11 or using wayland now? | 11:05 |
| sledges | chriadam: wayland | 11:06 |
| sledges | LetoThe2nd: where? | 11:06 |
| sledges | did you usb in? | 11:06 |
| sledges | into black nemo | 11:06 |
| LetoThe2nd | sledges: nah, just used the terminal | 11:06 |
| sledges | so you have nemo running? | 11:06 |
| sledges | ;P | 11:06 |
| sledges | a | 11:07 |
| sledges | sorry | 11:07 |
| LetoThe2nd | yes, the "black" seems to ahve jsut been the screensaver... sry. | 11:07 |
| sledges | 10:55 < LetoThe2nd> ok, it now actually brought some gui up | 11:07 |
| sledges | missed that bit | 11:07 |
| sledges | so | 11:07 |
| sledges | job done | 11:07 |
| sledges | :D | 11:07 |
| LetoThe2nd | kind-of yes. | 11:07 |
| sledges | you might want to update it to latest | 11:08 |
| LetoThe2nd | so is there anything more currect and worth tinkering with that old-sounding 0.2011? | 11:08 |
| sledges | but that can be done only by overwriting image contents | 11:08 |
| sledges | LetoThe2nd: you can look for traces of meego now | 11:09 |
| LetoThe2nd | ok... how? | 11:09 |
| sledges | perform df -h / | 11:09 |
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| sledges | (you should also be able to ssh now) | 11:09 |
| LetoThe2nd | hmmm i have usb0 now, but no ip | 11:10 |
| sledges | add it ;) | 11:10 |
| sledges | sudo ifconfig 192.168.2.14 | 11:10 |
| sledges | sudo ifconfig usb0 192.168.2.14 | 11:10 |
| LetoThe2nd | gotcha, i'm logged in. | 11:11 |
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| sledges | +1 | 11:11 |
| sledges | df -h / | 11:12 |
| LetoThe2nd | 2.2G free on / | 11:12 |
| sledges | which dev? | 11:12 |
| LetoThe2nd | /dev/root | 11:12 |
| sledges | cat /proc/cmdline | 11:12 |
| LetoThe2nd | http://paste.ubuntu.com/6457974/ | 11:13 |
| sledges | fdisk -l /dev/mmcblk0 | 11:13 |
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| LetoThe2nd | fdisk not found ;) | 11:14 |
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| sledges | /sbin/fdisk -l /dev/mmcblk0 | 11:14 |
| LetoThe2nd | hm, the usb0 link died. | 11:16 |
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| sledges | networkmanager pest: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/USBNetworking | 11:17 |
| sledges | you can just do | 11:17 |
| sledges | sudo ifconfig usb0 192.168.2.14 | 11:17 |
| sledges | and it will come back alive for a bit | 11:17 |
| sledges | ssh session should persist | 11:17 |
| LetoThe2nd | it does not :( | 11:17 |
| sledges | ping | 11:17 |
| sledges | ? | 11:17 |
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| LetoThe2nd | i just set it up in NM now, maybe it will prevail. | 11:19 |
| LetoThe2nd | but no sudo.. how to become root, or where might sudo be hidden? | 11:19 |
| sledges | su | 11:24 |
| LetoThe2nd | and whats the default pw? | 11:24 |
| sledges | nemo | 11:24 |
| LetoThe2nd | ok | 11:24 |
| LetoThe2nd | works :) | 11:24 |
| sledges | chriadam: first two boots are sane with 6f73d5a549c9352d235d16364c2ba265cdf5cd89 | 11:24 |
| sledges | that's more than promising | 11:25 |
| LetoThe2nd | sledges: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6458009/ | 11:25 |
| sledges | ok LetoThe2nd, means harmattan is there | 11:25 |
| sledges | do you want it back? ;) | 11:25 |
| LetoThe2nd | not necessarily... its the qt dev platform, right? | 11:26 |
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| sledges | yes | 11:27 |
| sledges | qt4 in your case | 11:27 |
| LetoThe2nd | not that important to me. | 11:27 |
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| sledges | very well :) | 11:28 |
| sledges | im sure you will have a lot of fun! | 11:28 |
| sledges | we have the tools and help necessary here to get you going with dev env | 11:28 |
| LetoThe2nd | :) | 11:28 |
| sledges | chriadam: 3rd boot fine, we can call it confirmed | 11:29 |
| LetoThe2nd | developing is the plan once it kind of works basically. | 11:29 |
| chriadam | sledges: that's mildly terrifying | 11:29 |
| LetoThe2nd | sledges: so how to proceed with the update? itsnot my intention to annoy you - if you can point me to kind-of fitting documentation it should hopefully be fine. | 11:30 |
| sledges | chriadam: for me it isn't, because the two commits you gave me must have introduced some badness, and im compiling the commit just before the two | 11:31 |
| sledges | chriadam: ignoring the 8th Nov snapshot working madness ;) | 11:31 |
| sledges | LetoThe2nd: just reboot back to moslo | 11:31 |
| sledges | and wipe the nemo that's in there | 11:31 |
| sledges | from your host PC | 11:31 |
| sledges | then follow: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing#Nokia_N950_.26_Nokia_N9_Rootfs_Installation | 11:32 |
| LetoThe2nd | sledges: ok... rebooting with usb conencted should give me moslo, right? | 11:32 |
| sledges | it should give moslo all the time no? | 11:33 |
| sledges | idk how you got there before ;) | 11:33 |
| LetoThe2nd | neither me ;) | 11:33 |
| sledges | :D | 11:33 |
| LetoThe2nd | ok... nokia warning now | 11:33 |
| LetoThe2nd | seems to be in moslo again now | 11:34 |
| sledges | goood | 11:34 |
| LetoThe2nd | ok, and exported fs is mount. so i'll just replace it with the tarball. | 11:35 |
| sledges | yes | 11:36 |
| sledges | as per instructions | 11:36 |
| sledges | dont forget to wipe it ;) | 11:36 |
| LetoThe2nd | nemo-armv7hl-n950-0.20130620.0.1.tar.bz2 is the tarball to use? | 11:37 |
| sledges | yes | 11:38 |
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| LetoThe2nd | sledges: ok finished, then pulled usb. lets see. | 11:43 |
| sledges | did you sync? | 11:43 |
| sledges | ;) | 11:43 |
| sledges | or at least gracefully umounted | 11:43 |
| LetoThe2nd | i umount, which should sync ;) | 11:43 |
| sledges | just a precaution, seen too many missed bits in the past :D | 11:43 |
| LetoThe2nd | sure. | 11:43 |
| sledges | of chasing ghosts thereafter | 11:44 |
| dm8tbr | LetoThe2nd: the device you have had a 'proper moslo' already... | 11:45 |
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| LetoThe2nd | dm8tbr: yeah, seems so :) | 11:45 |
| LetoThe2nd | sledges: looks like it successfully booted and stuff. | 11:45 |
| sledges | \o/ | 11:46 |
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| sledges | lsb_release ooi? | 11:48 |
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| LetoThe2nd | still says 0.2011 but the gui is considerably different now. | 11:50 |
| sledges | very well! | 11:50 |
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| dm8tbr | sledges: for some context, it's the device I gave to AV500 last year during ELCE. I know things because I did them to the device. ;) | 11:57 |
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| sledges | dm8tbr: O_O | 12:38 |
| sledges | your baby ;) | 12:39 |
| sledges | locusf: could you test the tmpfix please? https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing#Wayland.2FQt5 | 12:41 |
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| sandy_locke | qwazix: did you see my PR ? | 13:24 |
| Morpog_ | nice 89 packages to update after obs slaughter :) | 13:25 |
| Morpog_ | sandy_locke, qwazix may ask you to squash that commits | 13:27 |
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| sandy_locke | Morpog_: ? "squash" the commit ? | 13:29 |
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| Morpog_ | merging all those commits into a new one | 13:29 |
| sandy_locke | how do I do that ? | 13:30 |
| Morpog_ | usually by going back in commit history and then resubmitting | 13:30 |
| sandy_locke | ok, I'll look into it... | 13:31 |
| Morpog_ | but he might not care, after all there is no history logging etc. | 13:31 |
| Morpog_ | the nemomobile maintainers would force you :) | 13:31 |
| sandy_locke | Morpog_: I don't find a way to delete a commit ^^ | 13:33 |
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| Morpog_ | git reset --hard HEAD moves back 1 commit | 13:34 |
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| sandy_locke | mmmh, I don't use command line, dunno how to use git CLI | 13:34 |
| Morpog_ | windows github? | 13:35 |
| sandy_locke | mac, but I might found a way... | 13:37 |
| sandy_locke | *have | 13:38 |
| Morpog_ | backup your files before doing a mess ;) | 13:38 |
| sandy_locke | nope, I tried revert and rollback but I just did a mess ;) | 13:39 |
| sandy_locke | nothing bad really | 13:39 |
| sandy_locke | just there's revert everywhere on the statusbar commits ^^ | 13:40 |
| Morpog_ | yeah I see lol | 13:40 |
| Morpog_ | no wax to start a shell there from your client? | 13:40 |
| Morpog_ | way | 13:40 |
| sandy_locke | yes I can | 13:40 |
| Morpog_ | a github shell | 13:41 |
| * sandy_locke president | 13:41 | |
| sandy_locke | yes, I can go to terminal but you'll have to guide me ;) | 13:41 |
| sandy_locke | so in terminal, what should I do ? | 13:41 |
| sandy_locke | Morpog_: ^ | 13:42 |
| Morpog_ | second, let me see how to start a github shell, I always launch it from client :) | 13:42 |
| sandy_locke | ah ok, sorry | 13:42 |
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| sandy_locke | Morpog_: I think I don't have to launch a github shell, the git command do everything directly from terminal | 13:44 |
| Morpog_ | ah ok | 13:44 |
| Morpog_ | navigate to your repo foler which you want to work in | 13:45 |
| Morpog_ | so glacier-controls-spec | 13:45 |
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| sandy_locke | done :) | 13:45 |
| Morpog_ | git reset hard HEAD~1 | 13:45 |
| sandy_locke | fatal: ambiguous argument 'hard': unknown revision or path not in the working tree. | 13:46 |
| Morpog_ | that moves you back 1 commit | 13:46 |
| sandy_locke | Use '--' to separate paths from revisions, like this: | 13:46 |
| sandy_locke | 'git <command> [<revision>...] -- [<file>...]' | 13:46 |
| Morpog_ | git reset --hard | 13:46 |
| locusf | sledges: in a moment | 13:46 |
| Morpog_ | sorry | 13:46 |
| Morpog_ | git reset --hard HEAD~ | 13:46 |
| sandy_locke | HEAD is now at 27d8c57 Revert 9feb3c4..8afb141 | 13:46 |
| Morpog_ | do this till you are on the commit where you were before submitting all those commits | 13:48 |
| Morpog_ | that long number is the commit number | 13:48 |
| sandy_locke | ok done | 13:48 |
| Morpog_ | you are where now? | 13:48 |
| sandy_locke | I'm back to 'update4' of dialogs commits | 13:48 |
| sandy_locke | how do I sync ? | 13:49 |
| Morpog_ | great, so submit your commit now, but don't push yet | 13:49 |
| Morpog_ | don't sync yet | 13:49 |
| sandy_locke | how do I submit from command line ? | 13:49 |
| Morpog_ | should work from client too | 13:50 |
| Morpog_ | just close your client and reopen to see the changes | 13:50 |
| sandy_locke | wait, I have to put the files in statusbar folder again | 13:51 |
| sledges | locusf: thanks | 13:51 |
| Morpog_ | unless do git commit mynewcommitmessage | 13:52 |
| Morpog_ | sandy_locke, they should be still there | 13:52 |
| sandy_locke | nope ^^ | 13:53 |
| sledges | Morpog_: obs slaughter doesn't affect x86 ;) | 13:53 |
| w00t | that's over though, right? | 13:53 |
| Morpog_ | sandy_locke, hmm maybe because of your former mess actions ;) | 13:53 |
| sandy_locke | ^^ | 13:53 |
| sledges | w00t: yes, the storm has passed | 13:53 |
| Morpog_ | sledges, still I got 89 packages, whole qt5 was rebuilt | 13:53 |
| sledges | Morpog_: git reset --hard nukes everything | 13:53 |
| sledges | Morpog_: due to actual changes i gather | 13:54 |
| Morpog_ | sledges, ah true, should have done without hard :) well, I knew why I told him to backup :) | 13:54 |
| sledges | it's still on github | 13:54 |
| sledges | ;) pull from there asap | 13:54 |
| sandy_locke | it's ok, I still have the stuffs, commiting now ;) | 13:54 |
| sledges | goood sandy_locke :) | 13:54 |
| Morpog_ | after commit do | 13:55 |
| sandy_locke | Morpog_: hum, I synced already, is it bad ? | 13:55 |
| Morpog_ | yes, now all your commits are back :) | 13:55 |
| sandy_locke | arf ! | 13:56 |
| Morpog_ | lets do it again without hard | 13:56 |
| sandy_locke | ok | 13:56 |
| sledges | *g* | 13:56 |
| Morpog_ | git reset HEAD~ | 13:56 |
| sandy_locke | Unstaged changes after reset: | 13:57 |
| sandy_locke | Mstatusbar/statusbar_icons.pdf | 13:57 |
| sandy_locke | ... | 13:57 |
| sandy_locke | ? | 13:57 |
| Morpog_ | thats ok | 13:57 |
| sandy_locke | I continue ? | 13:57 |
| Morpog_ | yep | 13:57 |
| sandy_locke | oups, I went to far, there was no feedback ^^ | 13:58 |
| sandy_locke | inline dialogs are now with the statusbar commit | 13:58 |
| Morpog_ | hmm, then sync again | 13:59 |
| sandy_locke | ok | 13:59 |
| Morpog_ | or wait | 13:59 |
| sandy_locke | too late ^^ | 13:59 |
| Morpog_ | ok :) | 13:59 |
| sandy_locke | what do you see ? | 14:00 |
| Morpog_ | you can check where you are with git status | 14:00 |
| sandy_locke | ok | 14:00 |
| sandy_locke | nothing to commit, working directory clean | 14:01 |
| Morpog_ | erm sorry | 14:01 |
| Morpog_ | was git log | 14:01 |
| sandy_locke | I'm at statusbar proposal | 14:02 |
| sandy_locke | I do the reset again ? | 14:03 |
| Morpog_ | 234f64d5e60bb43b8cd98724399450a0eafc652f | 14:03 |
| Morpog_ | ? | 14:03 |
| sandy_locke | yes | 14:03 |
| Morpog_ | great | 14:03 |
| Morpog_ | reset again :) | 14:03 |
| sandy_locke | how can I know where I'm at ? | 14:04 |
| Morpog_ | git log | 14:04 |
| sandy_locke | ok good, I'm at udpate 4 again :D | 14:05 |
| Morpog_ | great, now check if your files are correct and commit | 14:05 |
| sandy_locke | so now, no mistake allowed ;) | 14:05 |
| sandy_locke | commit done | 14:06 |
| sandy_locke | waiting for instructions ;) | 14:06 |
| Morpog_ | git push --force | 14:07 |
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| sandy_locke | mmh, it is writing 9 objects instead of 6, hope there's no odd stuff going on... I checked the commit however | 14:09 |
| sandy_locke | Morpog_: ok there's one commit now on the PR | 14:10 |
| Morpog_ | yeah looks fine, all files in? | 14:11 |
| Morpog_ | now add a new comment on the PR, so that qwazix knows your not shizophrenic when talking about several commits and tehre is just one ;) | 14:12 |
| sledges | that looks very very nice sandy_locke https://github.com/qwazix/glacier-controls-spec/pull/11/files | 14:13 |
| sandy_locke | Morpog_: but there are zero comment right now, it seems that my old one has disappear ? | 14:13 |
| sledges | Morpog_:D | 14:13 |
| Morpog_ | sandy_locke, I still can see it though | 14:13 |
| sledges | i still see the comment | 14:13 |
| sandy_locke | mmh | 14:14 |
| Morpog_ | maybe you look at the commit in your forked repo instead of qwazix? | 14:14 |
| sandy_locke | and now ? | 14:14 |
| sandy_locke | yeah, I was not looking at the PR ^^ | 14:15 |
| Morpog_ | no comment anymore :) | 14:15 |
| sandy_locke | sledges: thx :) | 14:15 |
| sandy_locke | :D | 14:15 |
| locusf | sledges: is it git666 :) ? | 14:15 |
| sandy_locke | like this the statusbar is more of a connectivity bar ... | 14:16 |
| Morpog_ | and if you struggle again with github, ask sledges, he is the master :) I'm still learning that strange stuff as well ;) | 14:16 |
| sandy_locke | ^^ yeah, it's not really straightforward ! | 14:16 |
| sandy_locke | that's why I like to use the GUI instead of CLI , although it's limited | 14:17 |
| locusf | sledges: froze | 14:17 |
| Morpog_ | yeah if the mac cli is as limited as the windows one you cannot do much with it | 14:17 |
| locusf | or not | 14:17 |
| locusf | its partial freeze | 14:17 |
| sandy_locke | Morpog_: you mean mac GUI ? | 14:17 |
| Morpog_ | yep | 14:17 |
| sandy_locke | ;) | 14:18 |
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| Morpog_ | my fault | 14:18 |
| sandy_locke | yeah, I believe it is | 14:18 |
| sandy_locke | I have to go in the web app to PR for instance | 14:18 |
| sandy_locke | something as simple as that ... | 14:18 |
| Morpog_ | same on winows GUI | 14:19 |
| sledges | locusf: zypper se -si qtdeclarative | 14:19 |
| Morpog_ | still no Jolla order mail :( | 14:20 |
| locusf | sledges: http://pastie.org/8501150 | 14:21 |
| sandy_locke | Morpog_: don't worry, you'll have it before christmas :) | 14:21 |
| Morpog_ | I hope so ;) | 14:22 |
| sledges | locusf: im speechless | 14:26 |
| sledges | really flaky problem, comes once in a blue moon... | 14:26 |
| sledges | i rebooted 5 times, did not freeze since | 14:26 |
| sledges | locusf: when did you last zypper dupped? | 14:27 |
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| sledges | Morpog_: qmlpackagemanager is ready to play with on i486 | 14:44 |
| sledges | zypper in qmlpackagemanager | 14:44 |
| sledges | aaaaand on ARM too, locusf, sandy_locke ;) | 14:44 |
| sledges | BIG thanksies to niqt and timoph ! | 14:44 |
| * sledges guesses Morpog_ will first and foremost glacier iconise it :D | 14:45 | |
| sandy_locke | what is qml packagemanager ? | 14:46 |
| sledges | is just a ported to qt5, don't expect much functionality whatsoever ;) | 14:46 |
| sledges | sandy_locke: is a package manager written in QML | 14:46 |
| * sledges ducks | 14:46 | |
| sandy_locke | ok | 14:46 |
| sandy_locke | ^^ | 14:46 |
| sandy_locke | we'll have to mockup the stock apps now | 14:47 |
| Morpog_ | sledges, nothing proves libpackagekit | 14:47 |
| Morpog_ | provides | 14:47 |
| sledges | sandy_locke: yup \o/ | 14:49 |
| sledges | Morpog_: ouch /o\ | 14:49 |
| Morpog_ | not available on i486? | 14:50 |
| sledges | Morpog_: full err pls | 14:51 |
| Morpog_ | http://pastie.org/8501207 | 14:52 |
| sledges | Morpog_: zypper ref | 14:52 |
| Morpog_ | I did | 14:52 |
| Morpog_ | before | 14:52 |
| sledges | when? | 14:52 |
| sledges | :) | 14:53 |
| sledges | is a question of matter of tens of minutes ;) | 14:53 |
| Morpog_ | wtf, I did again zyppe ref and now its resolved ..... | 14:53 |
| sledges | and probably seconds, if obs wasn't just ready for you | 14:53 |
| sledges | Morpog_: ^ | 14:53 |
| sledges | ;) | 14:53 |
| sledges | soz, you were too fast (means keen ;)) | 14:53 |
| Morpog_ | :) | 14:54 |
| Morpog_ | ooooh what a nasty icon | 14:54 |
| sledges | :D | 14:54 |
| niqt | thanks sledges | 14:54 |
| Morpog_ | cannot see much of the app because of that weird opacity bug :( | 14:54 |
| sledges | Morpog_: time to backtrack? | 14:55 |
| sledges | now you could try being in my shoes of this week :D | 14:55 |
| Morpog_ | no, not really :) | 14:55 |
| sledges | niqt: not at all :) how is life? | 14:55 |
| sledges | Morpog_: is easy, flash old image, start installing packages (most suspicious first) one by one | 14:55 |
| sledges | till you hit the road jack :) | 14:56 |
| Morpog_ | sledges | 14:56 |
| Morpog_ | or I search in logs where I first reported it | 14:56 |
| sledges | yes | 14:56 |
| sledges | that's the first bit | 14:57 |
| Morpog_ | omg, its weeks ago | 15:00 |
| Morpog_ | is there a way to download all logs at once? | 15:00 |
| sledges | spider | 15:00 |
| Morpog_ | an easy way :) | 15:00 |
| sledges | wget can do it | 15:01 |
| Morpog_ | windows :) | 15:01 |
| sledges | :D non-windows was | 15:01 |
| sledges | way | 15:01 |
| sledges | :D | 15:01 |
| Morpog_ | lol | 15:01 |
| sledges | cygwin | 15:01 |
| sledges | :D | 15:01 |
| sledges | browser plugin? | 15:01 |
| Morpog_ | well, not today, maybe tomorrow, got to go in 2 hours | 15:01 |
| sledges | erm | 15:01 |
| sledges | i have logs here | 15:01 |
| Morpog_ | search for morpog and transpareny or opacity | 15:02 |
| sledges | 5th November | 15:03 |
| Morpog_ | more back | 15:03 |
| Morpog_ | I think | 15:03 |
| sledges | me too | 15:03 |
| sledges | but it's the first time we talked about it | 15:05 |
| sledges | 30th Oct: 19:35 < Morpog_PC> anyone else got this? http://abload.de/img/nemomobile-waylandgqprv.png | 15:06 |
| Morpog_ | well, thats before 5th november | 15:07 |
| Morpog_ | so between 20th and 30th october I would guess | 15:08 |
| sledges | yup | 15:08 |
| sandy_locke | sledges: in VM I got this | 15:13 |
| sledges | sandy_locke: yea | 15:17 |
| sledges | Morpog_ has just volunteered to fix it | 15:17 |
| sledges | we all got that ;) | 15:17 |
| sledges | I have 16th September VM image.. | 15:17 |
| sledges | maybe locusf can find something closer to 20th October amongst his archives | 15:18 |
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| sledges | found it | 15:21 |
| sledges | will give it exclusively to Morpog_ , so we don't jam locusf bandwidth once again ;) | 15:22 |
| sledges | (it's on dropbox) | 15:22 |
| Morpog_ | good idea | 15:23 |
| Morpog_ | but as I said, no time today anymore :) | 15:23 |
| Morpog_ | need to shower soon and shave and get prepared for party :D | 15:24 |
| sledges | oh no | 15:24 |
| sledges | it's 16th September... | 15:24 |
| sledges | the only one we got | 15:24 |
| sledges | might be a long shot | 15:24 |
| sledges | (because many packages will want to update) | 15:24 |
| sledges | but nevertheless | 15:24 |
| sledges | Morpog_: just set that download for 1GB in backgroun | 15:24 |
| Morpog_ | sledges, that one from 16 sept I got myself here | 15:25 |
| Morpog_ | It's the one I still use | 15:25 |
| Morpog_ | and yes I also got it untouched still too | 15:25 |
| Morpog_ | btw sledges https://github.com/nemomobile/qmlpackagemanager/pull/3 :D | 15:29 |
| locusf | Morpog_: do you want a new image? | 15:31 |
| locusf | for VM | 15:31 |
| Morpog_ | locusf, after that bug is fixed | 15:31 |
| sledges | Morpog_: we want an old image :D | 15:32 |
| sledges | locusf: have you run more tests | 15:33 |
| sledges | i cannot get it to freeze again | 15:33 |
| locusf | sledges: not yet | 15:33 |
| sledges | already 10 reboots :D | 15:33 |
| locusf | hmm I'll reboot too | 15:34 |
| locusf | must have been my fingers which didn't really react when all dry | 15:34 |
| sledges | O_o | 15:35 |
| locusf | no freezing after reboot | 15:35 |
| sledges | ah \o/ | 15:37 |
| Morpog_ | qwazix, still not sure if I like the packagemanager icon that much ;) | 15:39 |
| Morpog_ | http://abload.de/img/nemomobile-waylandfysk3.png | 15:39 |
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| sledges | i love it | 15:52 |
| sledges | provided the background is there ;) | 15:52 |
| sledges | hey everyone, how about a new twitter header: | 15:57 |
| sledges | https://twitter.com/NemoMobile | 15:57 |
| locusf | wow :) | 15:57 |
| sledges | bbl, have a good evening! | 15:59 |
| sledges | :) | 15:59 |
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| qwazix | hrmpf! twitter is still crashing my firefox | 18:23 |
| qwazix | nice header sledges_ | 18:23 |
| Stskeeps | evening qwazix | 18:24 |
| qwazix | evening Stskeeps! | 18:24 |
| Stskeeps | how is it going? | 18:24 |
| qwazix | not bad, at least I'm not a flu zombie anymore :) | 18:25 |
| Stskeeps | yay | 18:26 |
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| qwazix | sandy_locke, saw your PR didn't manage to check it out yet, thanks for squashing the commits though | 18:31 |
| sandy_locke | you're welcome :) | 18:32 |
| qwazix | (personal policy regarding squashing commits: I prefer the commits unsquashed when there are github/irc comments between them, for educational reasons - that's why I didn't ask last time. Now it was appropriate) | 18:33 |
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| stroughtonsmith | Stskeeps: you see https://twitter.com/stroughtonsmith/status/403751170298380288 ? :D | 18:43 |
| Stskeeps | stroughtonsmith: hehe, looks good | 18:44 |
| Stskeeps | crazy people around | 18:44 |
| stroughtonsmith | there's no u-boot for N9, right? | 18:44 |
| qwazix | I commented on the PR, very nice work, just some minor things that we might improve (or not). Maybe Morpog_, Hurrian, sledges_ have input too? | 18:45 |
| qwazix | sandy_locke, ^^ | 18:45 |
| Stskeeps | stroughtonsmith: no, sadly | 18:45 |
| Stskeeps | stroughtonsmith: it should be possible though | 18:45 |
| stroughtonsmith | Stskeeps: that's a shame, bringup on the N9 would be relatively easy | 18:45 |
| stroughtonsmith | (of Darwin) | 18:45 |
| Stskeeps | well, n9 has a manual update display which is a pain in the ass | 18:45 |
| qwazix | would be a very nice bedtime clock though when decommissioned | 18:47 |
| Stskeeps | that's how it is working for me atm | 18:48 |
| qwazix | especially with some nice lpm alarm gui so you won't have to exit lpm at all | 18:48 |
| qwazix | (I wish I had more time) | 18:48 |
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| rcg | qwazix, dito | 19:00 |
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| sledges_ | +1 | 21:22 |
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| sledges | sandy_locke|away: | 22:44 |
| sledges | what does the wifi symbol on right with triangle means? in status bar mockup shot | 22:46 |
| sledges | qwazix: ^ ? | 22:46 |
| sledges | great hear youre over with the flu | 22:46 |
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| sandy_locke | sledges: hope you're still there. To answer your question, it's supposed to bring you directly to the wifi system preference window | 23:26 |
| sandy_locke | if it's not straightforward enough, we can change it ;) | 23:27 |
| sandy_locke | the idea is that each panel can bring you to it's system window directly | 23:29 |
| sandy_locke | so panel = most used options, and preferences still accessible a tap away | 23:29 |
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| sledges | sandy_locke: got you | 23:39 |
| sledges | maybe we could brainstorm for another icon (i propose generic settings icon), because now there are too many wifi icons around like this ;) | 23:41 |
| sledges | sandy_locke: https://twitter.com/NemoMobile/status/404028214084775936 | 23:41 |
| sledges | ;) | 23:41 |
| sandy_locke | nice :) | 23:41 |
| sledges | do you have a twitter handle? | 23:41 |
| sandy_locke | yes, @lozeremedia | 23:42 |
| sandy_locke | (name of my company) | 23:42 |
| sandy_locke | +1 for the brainstorm on generic settings icon | 23:42 |
| sledges | brainstorm done :D | 23:43 |
| sandy_locke | I'm trying a slight change on the map icon | 23:43 |
| sandy_locke | :D | 23:44 |
| sandy_locke | just received a twitter ping from nemo_mobile ;) | 23:44 |
| sandy_locke | thx sledges | 23:44 |
| sandy_locke | *@NemoMobile, my bad | 23:44 |
| M4rtinK | and I've already retweeted that :) | 23:44 |
| sledges | and i managed to delete it all :D | 23:45 |
| sledges | ok, no more deletes now ;) https://twitter.com/NemoMobile/status/404032766238420992 | 23:45 |
| sledges | thanks M4rtinK , you're welcome sandy_locke | 23:45 |
| sandy_locke | sledges, M4rtinK : what do you think https://www.dropbox.com/s/a56gjfwifivwu5s/mapreloaded.png ? | 23:46 |
| sandy_locke | old one : https://www.dropbox.com/s/iob2uyp2s52pa35/icon-app-maps.png | 23:47 |
| sandy_locke | I want to have a polished maps icon to serve as a gps icon | 23:48 |
| sandy_locke | the satellite one seems to be too skeuomorphic compared to our other statusbar icons | 23:48 |
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| sledges | ah, the fancy skeuomorphic word ;) | 23:49 |
| sledges | why slimmed sandy_locke ? | 23:49 |
| sledges | other icons on status bar are circular (=rectangular) | 23:50 |
| sledges | but probably best to see it in action ;) | 23:51 |
| * sledges zleeps | 23:51 | |
| sledges | (some action heh ^ ) | 23:51 |
| sledges | laters all! | 23:51 |
| M4rtinK | IMHO, new one looks better | 23:51 |
| sandy_locke | sledges: cuz I find the maps icon like it's helium inflated ^^ | 23:51 |
| sandy_locke | nite sledges | 23:51 |
| sandy_locke | ok M4rtinK, thx for the feedback | 23:52 |
| sandy_locke | :) | 23:52 |
| M4rtinK | but when seeing it I think POI | 23:52 |
| sandy_locke | I'll see if I can keep the width of the old one with the fitness of the new one ^^ | 23:52 |
| M4rtinK | not really GPS/location enabled | 23:52 |
| sandy_locke | yeah me too | 23:52 |
| M4rtinK | something like a crosshair/sextant/small GPS satellite/satellite dish | 23:53 |
| M4rtinK | might be more intuitive | 23:53 |
| M4rtinK | just an idea :) | 23:54 |
| sandy_locke | M4rtinK: link ? | 23:55 |
| sandy_locke | right now, gps icon look like this https://www.dropbox.com/s/9robz06c4izjkmv/statusbar_icons.png | 23:56 |
| M4rtinK | maybe something more like http://thenounproject.com/noun/satellite/#icon-No5350 ? | 23:59 |
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| M4rtinK | eq. bigger solar panel & smaller body for the satellite | 23:59 |
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