| sandy_locke | bring me back to the prompt with sudo | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| sledges | now ping | 00:00 |
| sledges | 192.168.2.15 | 00:00 |
| sandy_locke | ping ok | 00:00 |
| sledges | telnet | 00:00 |
| sandy_locke | ping 101 ok | 00:00 |
| sledges | 15 | 00:00 |
| sandy_locke | I'll test 2.15 | 00:00 |
| sandy_locke | 2.15 host down | 00:01 |
| sledges | anyhow | 00:01 |
| sledges | partitions are now exported | 00:01 |
| sledges | if you could forward your usb connection to linux vm | 00:02 |
| sledges | we'll take it from there | 00:02 |
| sandy_locke | yes I can do that | 00:02 |
| sandy_locke | just a sec, I launch the VM | 00:02 |
| sledges | ok | 00:02 |
| sledges | then check dmesg | 00:03 |
| sledges | bottom of it | 00:03 |
| sledges | for sdb | 00:03 |
| sledges | or similar | 00:03 |
| sledges | in vm | 00:03 |
| sandy_locke | sd 8:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk | 00:06 |
| sandy_locke | is that it ? | 00:06 |
| sledges | yes | 00:07 |
| sandy_locke | sledges: ^ | 00:07 |
| sandy_locke | cool | 00:07 |
| sledges | sudo fdisk /dev/sdb | 00:08 |
| sandy_locke | unable to open sdb, no medium found ^^ | 00:08 |
| sledges | ls /dev/sdb* | 00:08 |
| sandy_locke | just sdb :/ | 00:09 |
| sledges | sdc*? | 00:09 |
| sandy_locke | no sdc | 00:09 |
| sledges | you will need to reboot n9 | 00:09 |
| sandy_locke | ok then | 00:10 |
| sledges | fladh ubiboot kernel | 00:10 |
| sledges | and connect fast your usb to vm | 00:10 |
| sandy_locke | I'll do the flasher from the VM | 00:10 |
| sandy_locke | directly | 00:10 |
| sledges | very good | 00:11 |
| sandy_locke | nope, it says operation not permitted | 00:12 |
| sandy_locke | I have to do it from host | 00:12 |
| sledges | for which bit? | 00:12 |
| sledges | erm | 00:12 |
| sledges | or sudo | 00:13 |
| sledges | ;) | 00:13 |
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| sandy_locke | nice touch ;) | 00:13 |
| sandy_locke | ok fdisk sdb work | 00:14 |
| sledges | niice | 00:14 |
| sandy_locke | I've got the prompt | 00:14 |
| sledges | please paste | 00:14 |
| sledges | after | 00:14 |
| sledges | pressin | 00:14 |
| sledges | p | 00:14 |
| sandy_locke | "/dev/sdb1 1024 18464767 9231872 c W95 FAT32 (LBA) | 00:15 |
| sledges | pastee | 00:15 |
| sledges | ;) | 00:15 |
| sledges | pastee.org | 00:15 |
| sandy_locke | sorry ^^ | 00:15 |
| sledges | pls | 00:15 |
| sledges | dw ;) | 00:15 |
| sandy_locke | https://pastee.org/4kz92 | 00:15 |
| sledges | please press | 00:17 |
| sledges | u | 00:17 |
| sledges | and repaste | 00:17 |
| sandy_locke | Changing display/entry units to cylinders (DEPRECATED!) | 00:17 |
| sledges | yes | 00:17 |
| sledges | repaste the | 00:17 |
| sledges | p | 00:17 |
| sledges | output | 00:17 |
| sandy_locke | ah | 00:17 |
| sandy_locke | https://pastee.org/wmpu3 | 00:18 |
| sledges | that's better | 00:18 |
| sledges | but | 00:18 |
| sledges | a nothing | 00:18 |
| sledges | ok | 00:18 |
| sledges | let's see | 00:18 |
| sledges | sadly moslo didn't even resize it | 00:19 |
| sandy_locke | you want me to retry launching MOSLO and look at it again ? | 00:20 |
| sledges | nope | 00:20 |
| sledges | you can type | 00:20 |
| sledges | t | 00:20 |
| sledges | and select partition 2 | 00:20 |
| sledges | and then 83 | 00:21 |
| sledges | for ext linux | 00:21 |
| sledges | so it's not "Empty" | 00:21 |
| sledges | maybe moslo is failing for that?..... | 00:21 |
| sandy_locke | yup, I found this empty was strange... | 00:21 |
| sandy_locke | do I try MOSLO then ? | 00:21 |
| sledges | but | 00:21 |
| sledges | i dont know | 00:21 |
| sledges | why you have 9GB MyDocs | 00:22 |
| sledges | is this BackupMenu or smthng? | 00:22 |
| sandy_locke | nope, nothing | 00:22 |
| sledges | it should be ~6.5GB | 00:22 |
| sandy_locke | it's a fresh reflash | 00:22 |
| sledges | hmph | 00:22 |
| sandy_locke | from 2/3 days ago | 00:22 |
| sandy_locke | I didn't do anything on it since then | 00:22 |
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| sledges | right | 00:22 |
| sledges | if you are flasher-happy | 00:23 |
| sledges | ;) | 00:23 |
| sledges | let's go va bank | 00:23 |
| sandy_locke | flasher-happy ? | 00:23 |
| sledges | well, you reflashed many times | 00:23 |
| sledges | and I think I know what happened | 00:23 |
| sledges | so | 00:23 |
| sandy_locke | I don't count anymor e;) | 00:23 |
| sledges | let's delete all your partitions | 00:23 |
| sledges | and recreate them nemo-sanely | 00:23 |
| sandy_locke | just like that ? | 00:24 |
| sledges | yes | 00:24 |
| sledges | follow me ;) | 00:24 |
| sandy_locke | oook ^^ | 00:24 |
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| sandy_locke | ^^' | 00:24 |
| sledges | at fdisk prompt | 00:24 |
| sledges | d | 00:24 |
| sandy_locke | yup | 00:24 |
| sandy_locke | ok | 00:24 |
| sledges | until no more partitions left | 00:24 |
| sledges | ;D | 00:24 |
| sledges | trust and dw ;) | 00:24 |
| sandy_locke | partitions are no more :D | 00:25 |
| sledges | goood | 00:25 |
| sledges | :D | 00:25 |
| sledges | now | 00:25 |
| sledges | n | 00:25 |
| sandy_locke | p? | 00:25 |
| sledges | Primary | 00:25 |
| sandy_locke | 1? | 00:25 |
| sledges | yes | 00:25 |
| sandy_locke | enter ? | 00:26 |
| sledges | first cylinder | 00:26 |
| sledges | 17 | 00:26 |
| sledges | can it do that? | 00:26 |
| sandy_locke | I've got 33-485120 | 00:26 |
| sledges | ahhhhh | 00:26 |
| sledges | bugger | 00:26 |
| sandy_locke | yes, just enter select the default | 00:26 |
| sledges | dam fdisk | 00:26 |
| sandy_locke | what ? | 00:27 |
| sandy_locke | will it explode ? | 00:27 |
| sledges | :D no | 00:27 |
| sledges | let's ignore that then | 00:27 |
| sledges | press enter | 00:27 |
| sledges | (let it 330 | 00:27 |
| sledges | 33) | 00:27 |
| sandy_locke | ok | 00:28 |
| sandy_locke | now last cyl | 00:28 |
| sledges | 208512 | 00:28 |
| sledges | (yes, with 0 ;P)\ | 00:28 |
| sledges | then press t | 00:29 |
| sandy_locke | yes, strange that there's no 17 ... | 00:29 |
| sledges | it's fdisk, but we leave that for now | 00:29 |
| sandy_locke | t pressed | 00:29 |
| sledges | 1 | 00:29 |
| sledges | c | 00:29 |
| sandy_locke | done | 00:30 |
| sledges | n | 00:30 |
| sledges | p | 00:30 |
| sledges | 2 | 00:30 |
| sandy_locke | 1st cyl ? | 00:30 |
| sledges | 288513 | 00:30 |
| sledges | 419584 | 00:30 |
| sledges | n | 00:30 |
| sandy_locke | not 208 ? | 00:30 |
| sledges | p | 00:30 |
| sledges | 3 | 00:30 |
| sledges | (no ;P) | 00:30 |
| sledges | 419585 | 00:30 |
| sledges | 485120 | 00:31 |
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| sledges | n | 00:31 |
| sledges | p | 00:31 |
| sledges | 4 | 00:31 |
| sledges | 208513 | 00:31 |
| sledges | 288512 | 00:31 |
| sledges | then press p, and paste for cross check | 00:31 |
| sandy_locke | https://pastee.org/nbjkc | 00:32 |
| sledges | very well | 00:33 |
| sledges | let's pull the trigger | 00:33 |
| sledges | w | 00:33 |
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| sandy_locke | you had all those cylinders flashing before you're eyes, didn't you ;) | 00:33 |
| sledges | ;) | 00:33 |
| sledges | just reading the wiki really *g* | 00:33 |
| sandy_locke | :P | 00:33 |
| sledges | now let's check | 00:34 |
| sledges | ls /dev/sdb4 | 00:34 |
| sandy_locke | sdb4 present | 00:34 |
| sledges | PS: i hope you had nothing important in MyDocs :D | 00:34 |
| sledges | bingo | 00:34 |
| sandy_locke | nope, I never leave important stuffs on phones | 00:34 |
| sandy_locke | ok then, so I just launch MOSLO and copy Nemo ? | 00:36 |
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| sledges | sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdb4 | 00:37 |
| sledges | first ;) | 00:37 |
| sandy_locke | :) | 00:37 |
| sledges | a | 00:37 |
| sandy_locke | writing superblocks | 00:37 |
| sledges | shoot | 00:37 |
| sledges | let's do it again | 00:38 |
| sledges | sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdb4 -L Alt_OS | 00:38 |
| sledges | :D | 00:38 |
| sandy_locke | (this superblocks term is really geeky) | 00:38 |
| sledges | or any other name | 00:38 |
| sledges | but let's stick with Alt_OS for weird legacy reasons | 00:38 |
| sandy_locke | (in the good sense, ofc) | 00:38 |
| sandy_locke | I CTRL-C ? | 00:38 |
| sandy_locke | can I do it ? | 00:38 |
| sandy_locke | I didn't add the -L | 00:38 |
| sledges | just wait, should finish before too long | 00:39 |
| sandy_locke | ok | 00:39 |
| sledges | in another window | 00:39 |
| sandy_locke | re-doing | 00:39 |
| sledges | try to telnet into device | 00:39 |
| sledges | just for my personal interest | 00:39 |
| sledges | first type ifconfig and check for usb0 | 00:40 |
| sandy_locke | yup, usb0 | 00:40 |
| sledges | sudo ifconfig usb0 192 | 00:40 |
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| sandy_locke | 0.100 | 00:40 |
| sledges | sudo ifconfig usb0 192.168.2.1 | 00:40 |
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| sandy_locke | ok done | 00:40 |
| sledges | telnet 192.168.2.15 | 00:41 |
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| sandy_locke | you know that you put 2.1 : sudo ifconfig usb0 192.168.2.1 ? | 00:42 |
| sledges | and back to the mkfs.ext4 screen...: do mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb1 | 00:42 |
| sledges | i know | 00:42 |
| sledges | :) | 00:42 |
| sandy_locke | because telnet 2.1 is denied and 2.15 has no route | 00:42 |
| sledges | ok let's scratch that | 00:42 |
| sledges | ;) | 00:42 |
| sandy_locke | no -L ? | 00:42 |
| sledges | no | 00:42 |
| sandy_locke | mkfs.vfating | 00:43 |
| sledges | :D | 00:43 |
| sandy_locke | ;) | 00:43 |
| sledges | that one should be short | 00:43 |
| sandy_locke | yup done :) | 00:43 |
| sledges | right | 00:43 |
| sledges | we're done here | 00:43 |
| sledges | type sync | 00:43 |
| sledges | just to get in a habit | 00:43 |
| sandy_locke | ok | 00:44 |
| sledges | and let's reboot to moslo now | 00:44 |
| sandy_locke | ok | 00:44 |
| sledges | :D flasher-happy | 00:44 |
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| * sledges singing along http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN6avab0fIY | 00:45 | |
| sandy_locke | ;) | 00:45 |
| sledges | s/shoot/flash | 00:45 |
| sandy_locke | o | 00:46 |
| sandy_locke | o/ | 00:47 |
| sledges | \o? | 00:47 |
| sandy_locke | the partition is exported into linux | 00:47 |
| sledges | \o/ | 00:47 |
| sandy_locke | so I just have to put nemo in it | 00:47 |
| sledges | yup | 00:47 |
| sandy_locke | do you have a link for a fresh brand new nemo ? | 00:47 |
| sandy_locke | flasher-happy everyday ... 8° | 00:48 |
| sledges | brand new is torrented | 00:49 |
| sledges | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing#Wayland.2FQt5 | 00:49 |
| sandy_locke | arrh... ok let's do it anyway | 00:49 |
| sandy_locke | I'll have to get deluge for linux | 00:49 |
| sledges | im seeding one ;) | 00:49 |
| sandy_locke | nice, I'll leech to you then :P | 00:50 |
| sledges | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing#Nokia_N950_.26_Nokia_N9_Rootfs_Installation | 00:50 |
| sledges | afterwards ^ | 00:50 |
| * sledges off zleep ;) | 00:50 | |
| w00t | holy crap you people talk a lot | 00:51 |
| sandy_locke | yeah, thx so much sledges | 00:51 |
| * w00t waves a cane, get off my lawn, etc | 00:51 | |
| sledges | w00t :D we're trigger/flasher happy :D | 00:52 |
| sandy_locke | e-ve-ry-day ! | 00:53 |
| sledges | yea! | 00:53 |
| sandy_locke | o/ | 00:53 |
| sledges | punks :D | 00:53 |
| sledges | sandy_locke: have a lot of fun! glad to help | 00:53 |
| sledges | which TZ are you btw? :)) | 00:53 |
| * sandy_locke smash the lawn with a fork and a hammer | 00:53 | |
| sandy_locke | TZ? | 00:54 |
| sledges | timezone | 00:54 |
| sledges | (another geeky term) | 00:54 |
| sandy_locke | +1 PARIS | 00:54 |
| sandy_locke | but not in this particular city | 00:54 |
| sledges | nice, quite late in there | 00:54 |
| sledges | +0 London | 00:54 |
| sandy_locke | and you ? | 00:54 |
| sandy_locke | mmh | 00:54 |
| sledges | but not in this particular city :)) | 00:54 |
| sandy_locke | ;) | 00:54 |
| sledges | earliest country in europe (together with Portugal) | 00:54 |
| sandy_locke | it's late at your place too, may I say | 00:54 |
| sledges | so everyone else seems pretty late :) | 00:54 |
| sandy_locke | yeah, but geek fun is never late ;) | 00:55 |
| sledges | too true! | 00:55 |
| sledges | except when gotta get up to work tomorrow, err today :)) | 00:55 |
| sledges | (nah :D) | 00:55 |
| sandy_locke | lol | 00:55 |
| sandy_locke | yeah, I work at home :P | 00:55 |
| special | my trick is working for a company in a very different timezone | 00:55 |
| sledges | good on ya :) | 00:55 |
| Eztran | I'm not sure what it is about geeky stuff, but about 90% of it always seems to be done in the hours just after midnight :) | 00:56 |
| special | I can keep any hours I want and justify it with work | 00:56 |
| sandy_locke | it's like the gremlins, never give them water after 00:00 otherwise... | 00:56 |
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| sandy_locke | but you're special :P | 00:57 |
| sledges | :D | 00:57 |
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| sandy_locke | and what special work do you do ? | 00:57 |
| sledges | the most special around here ;) | 00:57 |
| special | Jolla | 00:58 |
| sandy_locke | you make special smatphones ? | 00:58 |
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| sledges | sandy_locke: does harmattan still boot ooi | 00:59 |
| * sledges hides | 00:59 | |
| sandy_locke | sledges: I didn't try yet (and you better do, because I'm pretty sure it won"t!) | 00:59 |
| sandy_locke | :P | 01:00 |
| sandy_locke | should I try ? | 01:00 |
| sandy_locke | ... | 01:00 |
| sledges | yes | 01:00 |
| sandy_locke | k | 01:00 |
| sledges | while torrenting | 01:00 |
| sandy_locke | 2secs | 01:00 |
| sandy_locke | warranty damn warning ! | 01:00 |
| sandy_locke | this one, he never go by itself does he ? | 01:00 |
| sledges | just denotes a geeky phone, all good ;) | 01:01 |
| sandy_locke | ;) | 01:01 |
| sledges | also, no need to reboot phone in front of friends :D and in general.. | 01:01 |
| sledges | :) | 01:01 |
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| sandy_locke | yeah, but I think the warranty warning is pretty cool in fact | 01:02 |
| sandy_locke | it boot ! | 01:02 |
| sledges | there there | 01:02 |
| sandy_locke | booty boot | 01:02 |
| Eztran | That thing isn't annoying, 'til you have to reboot your phone a few times, for whatever reason. Then, it's very annoying. | 01:02 |
| sledges | great! | 01:02 |
| Eztran | That said, it's probably better than no boot :) | 01:02 |
| sandy_locke | yeah, I feel you ! | 01:02 |
| sledges | Eztran: does it extend boot time? | 01:03 |
| sandy_locke | yeah, by 15secs at least ! | 01:03 |
| sledges | yowzer | 01:03 |
| sandy_locke | yowzer ? | 01:03 |
| sledges | (=ouch) | 01:03 |
| sledges | yet another geek word? idk | 01:03 |
| sledges | :) | 01:03 |
| sandy_locke | ;) | 01:04 |
| Eztran | Nokia apparently really wanted you to know you have no warranty now. | 01:04 |
| sledges | just to make sure :)) | 01:04 |
| sandy_locke | yeah, but a reflash put it away, so if my phone has any issue, I just happily flash again ;) | 01:04 |
| Eztran | Yeah, the N9's really hard to kill by accident. | 01:05 |
| sandy_locke | they don't do phones like this anymore | 01:05 |
| sandy_locke | I'm glad I found it by pure coincidence ! | 01:05 |
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| sandy_locke | actually that's the maemo talk community that made me want an n9 | 01:06 |
| sledges | usually tmo make you want an n900 :) | 01:06 |
| sandy_locke | yeah, but the n900 was for devs | 01:06 |
| sandy_locke | I'm a graphist ;) | 01:06 |
| sledges | sandy_locke: if you reflash, warranty goes away, but any openmode kernel boot (even without physical flashing) triggers warranty | 01:07 |
| sledges | true, n9 is very elegant | 01:07 |
| sledges | so will be jolla phone let's hope | 01:07 |
| sandy_locke | yeah, the jolla seem truely a good successor | 01:07 |
| sledges | strange warranty appears even when you've turned it off | 01:07 |
| sandy_locke | ? | 01:07 |
| sandy_locke | you need flashing to get another kernel no ? | 01:08 |
| sledges | i mean | 01:09 |
| sledges | warranty came back | 01:09 |
| sledges | because you loaded moslo | 01:09 |
| sandy_locke | mmh, you mean just replacing the stock one with the modded k ? | 01:09 |
| sandy_locke | by hand ? | 01:09 |
| sandy_locke | yeah | 01:09 |
| sledges | even without replacing | 01:09 |
| sledges | just flash it to RAM | 01:09 |
| sledges | and boom - warranty nag | 01:09 |
| sandy_locke | mmh yeah | 01:09 |
| sledges | Jonni confirmed that recently | 01:09 |
| sledges | 8| | 01:09 |
| sandy_locke | it must be hard coded into some chip no ? | 01:09 |
| Eztran | That particular warning simply comes up whenever an openmode kernel's used, unless you've removed the message. | 01:10 |
| sledges | some weird triggers on RAM/bootloader registers ;) | 01:10 |
| sledges | i always though RAM is volatile, but something else intercepts that, flasher/NLO etc | 01:10 |
| sandy_locke | like a worm waiting for your misfits | 01:10 |
| sledges | disclaimer-cal remove View-openmode | 01:10 |
| sledges | you did that sandy_locke ^ ? | 01:10 |
| sandy_locke | nope | 01:10 |
| sledges | a | 01:11 |
| sandy_locke | I should have | 01:11 |
| sledges | ;) | 01:11 |
| sledges | yup | 01:11 |
| Eztran | That has to be done from closed mode, sorry :P | 01:11 |
| sandy_locke | it's too late now , right ? | 01:11 |
| sledges | yes | 01:11 |
| sandy_locke | but there's no openmode already | 01:11 |
| sandy_locke | I didn't put it | 01:11 |
| sandy_locke | this time | 01:11 |
| sledges | you opened it | 01:11 |
| sandy_locke | nope | 01:11 |
| sledges | by flashin ram | 01:11 |
| sandy_locke | ah | 01:11 |
| sledges | crazy ;) | 01:11 |
| sandy_locke | yup ^^ | 01:11 |
| sandy_locke | did they know we were going to use it that way ? | 01:12 |
| sledges | well, n9 is n900 successor so | 01:12 |
| sledges | (with n950 dev dev in between) | 01:12 |
| sledges | purely linuxy | 01:12 |
| sandy_locke | yeah, how come nobody makes phone open like that ? | 01:13 |
| sledges | TI pulled out | 01:13 |
| sandy_locke | I think it's a killer idea | 01:13 |
| sledges | Qualcomm just don't make such HW | 01:13 |
| sledges | N9 it TI OMAP | 01:13 |
| sledges | *is | 01:13 |
| sandy_locke | ok | 01:13 |
| sandy_locke | and what's it's name, with semiconductor in it | 01:14 |
| sandy_locke | ? | 01:14 |
| sandy_locke | we had tandy in the days | 01:14 |
| sledges | ST Micro? | 01:15 |
| sandy_locke | ST Micro ? | 01:15 |
| sandy_locke | dunno | 01:15 |
| sledges | STMicroelectronics | 01:15 |
| sandy_locke | mmh, no I don't think it was that | 01:15 |
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| sandy_locke | ah I don't remember | 01:19 |
| sandy_locke | :( | 01:19 |
| sandy_locke | unpacking to nemo | 01:21 |
| sandy_locke | I may be left alone here... | 01:21 |
| sledges | don't forget to sync after extract | 01:21 |
| sandy_locke | ah you're here :D | 01:21 |
| sledges | updating wiki ;P | 01:21 |
| sandy_locke | I just type sync ? | 01:21 |
| sledges | yeap | 01:21 |
| sandy_locke | what does it do already ? | 01:22 |
| sledges | and then unmount gracefully | 01:22 |
| sledges | ? | 01:22 |
| sandy_locke | sync | 01:22 |
| sledges | flushes buffers | 01:22 |
| sandy_locke | what buffers ? | 01:22 |
| sledges | on block devices (HDD and removable storage) from their cache | 01:22 |
| sandy_locke | to what purpose ? | 01:23 |
| sandy_locke | ^^ | 01:23 |
| sledges | if you extract nemo now | 01:23 |
| sledges | big portions of it get cached | 01:24 |
| sledges | and are only in RAM | 01:24 |
| sledges | not on n9 | 01:24 |
| sledges | sync ensures they are flushed | 01:24 |
| sledges | before you plug the cable | 01:24 |
| sandy_locke | (we should keep this night of logs for following peops that need this kind of assistance...) | 01:24 |
| sledges | if you unmoutn nicely | 01:24 |
| sledges | (sandy_locke: all will be in wiki summarised soon, 5mins ;) | 01:24 |
| sandy_locke | ^^ | 01:25 |
| sandy_locke | nice :) | 01:25 |
| Eztran | I'm keeping an eye on this partly for that reason :) | 01:25 |
| sandy_locke | good job! | 01:25 |
| sandy_locke | ok for sync, I understand the need | 01:25 |
| sledges | if you unmount nicely, it should also sync | 01:25 |
| sledges | but sometimes one or the other get forgotten :D | 01:26 |
| sledges | so | 01:26 |
| sandy_locke | yeah, good habit ;) | 01:26 |
| sandy_locke | ok, right now I've got a black screen | 01:26 |
| sledges | as expected ;) | 01:27 |
| sandy_locke | (boot to nemo) | 01:27 |
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| sandy_locke | ah :) | 01:27 |
| sledges | how long have you waited? | 01:27 |
| sledges | if you very briefly press power, white LED comes on, so you know phone is totally powered off | 01:27 |
| sledges | and time to re-moslo ;) | 01:28 |
| sandy_locke | re-moslo then ;) | 01:29 |
| sledges | no need to re-extract ofc | 01:31 |
| sandy_locke | yeah, but black screen again :/ | 01:31 |
| sandy_locke | yeah, it shut itself down again ^^ | 01:32 |
| sledges | did you extract the way wiki says? | 01:32 |
| sandy_locke | yup | 01:32 |
| sledges | let's boot to moslo again | 01:32 |
| sledges | and have Alt_OS exported | 01:32 |
| sledges | to perform some checks | 01:32 |
| sledges | did you extract from your Mac or Linux VM? | 01:32 |
| sandy_locke | linux vm | 01:33 |
| sandy_locke | ok, re-reMOSLO ;) | 01:33 |
| sledges | go to your linux vm | 01:34 |
| sledges | where you have nemo tarball torrented | 01:34 |
| sandy_locke | yup, and now altos mounted | 01:34 |
| sledges | open shell in that directory | 01:34 |
| sledges | of tarball | 01:34 |
| sandy_locke | ok | 01:34 |
| sandy_locke | done | 01:34 |
| sledges | mkdir nemo-rootfs | 01:35 |
| sandy_locke | done | 01:35 |
| sledges | sudo tar --numeric-owner -xf nemo-*.tar.bz2 -C nemo-rootfs | 01:35 |
| sandy_locke | untarring | 01:36 |
| sledges | meanwhile in another windo | 01:36 |
| sandy_locke | yes | 01:36 |
| sledges | do ls -l /media/Alt_OS/home | 01:36 |
| sandy_locke | drwx------ 2 100000 100000 4096 Nov 19 15:33 nemo | 01:36 |
| sledges | looks sane | 01:36 |
| sledges | finished untarring? | 01:37 |
| sandy_locke | yes | 01:37 |
| sledges | cd nemo-rootfs; sudo rsync -rlpgovc --delete . /media/Alt_OS | 01:38 |
| sledges | and would be good if you pasted this output | 01:38 |
| sandy_locke | ok | 01:39 |
| sandy_locke | I wait for it to finish | 01:40 |
| sandy_locke | https://pastee.org/9ds29 | 01:40 |
| sandy_locke | some errors | 01:40 |
| sledges | sudo rm -rf /media/Alt_OS/.Trashes | 01:41 |
| sledges | sudo rm -rf /media/Alt_OS/.fseventsd | 01:41 |
| sledges | strange.... | 01:41 |
| sandy_locke | rm: cannot remove `/media/Alt_OS/.Trashes': Input/output error | 01:42 |
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| sledges | where are those trashes from :D | 01:42 |
| sandy_locke | same for the other | 01:42 |
| sandy_locke | it's created the moment I mount | 01:42 |
| sandy_locke | but... | 01:42 |
| sledges | they shouldnt prevent nemo from booting | 01:43 |
| sandy_locke | I mounted with the GUI file manager | 01:43 |
| sledges | let's try again | 01:43 |
| sledges | umount via GUI now | 01:43 |
| sledges | it should do sync | 01:43 |
| sandy_locke | ok, unmounted via gui | 01:43 |
| sledges | pull the plug | 01:44 |
| sledges | and do you repull the plug | 01:44 |
| sledges | before VolumeDown? | 01:44 |
| sandy_locke | no | 01:44 |
| sledges | *repull lol replug | 01:44 |
| sledges | let's try with plug plugged | 01:44 |
| sledges | :D | 01:44 |
| sandy_locke | ah ok | 01:44 |
| sandy_locke | still black screen | 01:45 |
| sledges | is it powered off though? | 01:45 |
| sandy_locke | it rebooted | 01:45 |
| sledges | tough luck | 01:45 |
| sandy_locke | now it's booting into harmattan | 01:46 |
| sledges | yea because of no moslo in between | 01:46 |
| sandy_locke | yup | 01:46 |
| sledges | all i can recommend sandy_locke is to try http://timoph.fi/nemomobile/0.20130801.2.NEMO.2013-11-18.1/nemo-armv7hl-n950-rnd/nemo-armv7hl-n950-rnd-0.20130801.2.NEMO.2013-11-18.1.tar.bz2 instead | 01:46 |
| sledges | known to work | 01:46 |
| sledges | you can extract it locally and rsync it with command above | 01:46 |
| sledges | will be least intrusive to your n9 flash memory scrubbing | 01:47 |
| sandy_locke | ok | 01:48 |
| sledges | that's last resort for now :( | 01:48 |
| sledges | don't know why is it not booting | 01:48 |
| sledges | tbh | 01:48 |
| sledges | i remember it needed several reboots to push through initial nemo installs | 01:49 |
| sledges | especially after fresh flash | 01:49 |
| sledges | but those are magical moments :} | 01:49 |
| sandy_locke | sledges: I want to mount via term, what sdb should I mount to ? | 01:51 |
| sandy_locke | sdb4 ? | 01:51 |
| sledges | term? | 01:51 |
| sledges | yes | 01:51 |
| sandy_locke | command line | 01:51 |
| sandy_locke | ok | 01:51 |
| sandy_locke | sledges: how do I format sdb4 ? | 01:53 |
| sandy_locke | the files are there but I believe they need to be gone for a clean install | 01:53 |
| sledges | rsync would take care of that | 01:54 |
| sandy_locke | ok | 01:54 |
| sledges | but for you to have peace of mind | 01:54 |
| sandy_locke | and will it remove the .trash folder ? | 01:54 |
| sledges | sudo mkfs.ext4 -L 'Alt_OS' /dev/sdb4 | 01:54 |
| sledges | sandy_locke: trash is mistery to me, and it's input/output error | 01:54 |
| sledges | so yea, you can go format way... | 01:54 |
| sandy_locke | BUT | 01:55 |
| sledges | if .trashes appear sporadicaly, might be some meta folders... (from mac?) | 01:55 |
| sandy_locke | sdb4 does not exist, obviously there's only sdb (which mount Alt_OS) | 01:55 |
| sandy_locke | can I format sdb ? | 01:55 |
| sledges | yes | 01:55 |
| sandy_locke | ok | 01:55 |
| sledges | it will warn you that you shouldn't be formatting whole disk, but it isn't whole disk as you see ;) | 01:56 |
| sandy_locke | no, it's meta folder from the file manager app of my linux install I believe | 01:56 |
| sledges | in moslo's weird export case | 01:56 |
| sledges | yes, but it should create .Trash only when you delete something to trash | 01:56 |
| sledges | wiki updated: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing#FATAL:_Re-partitioning_failed.21_You_might_be_in_trouble.21 | 01:56 |
| sandy_locke | no, I've seen this already: trash is created at first mount if rw, it's like that on mac, so this fm must behave the same | 01:57 |
| sledges | hmph | 01:58 |
| sledges | erm | 01:58 |
| sledges | .fseventsd is Macs ;P | 01:58 |
| sandy_locke | nice update sledges :) you're right, deleting partition 3 was not necessary | 02:00 |
| sledges | yup | 02:01 |
| sandy_locke | ah, strange for .fseventsd, cuz mac didn't access the Alt_OS partition, only linux... | 02:01 |
| sledges | maybe it did for that brief moment of usb vm switching? | 02:01 |
| sledges | anyhow, hopes for formatting | 02:02 |
| sandy_locke | maybe | 02:02 |
| sandy_locke | yeah, format done | 02:02 |
| sandy_locke | I have to find those commands to rsync again though | 02:02 |
| sandy_locke | ok found | 02:03 |
| sledges | if you formatted | 02:03 |
| sledges | then you can simply extract directly | 02:03 |
| sandy_locke | ah | 02:03 |
| sandy_locke | the moment of truth arrive | 02:06 |
| sledges | ... | 02:06 |
| sandy_locke | in a few minutes/secs | 02:06 |
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| sledges | just asserting you synced | 02:07 |
| sledges | btw first boot is often black | 02:07 |
| sledges | known issue | 02:07 |
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| sandy_locke | yeah! | 02:08 |
| sandy_locke | nemo boot screen | 02:08 |
| sandy_locke | o/ | 02:08 |
| sledges | \o/ | 02:08 |
| sledges | great success | 02:08 |
| sandy_locke | AND, nemo HomeScreen :D | 02:08 |
| sandy_locke | V for Victory | 02:08 |
| Eztran | Congrats! | 02:08 |
| sandy_locke | thx Eztran :D | 02:08 |
| sledges | and.... locusf image is candidate for blackscreening | 02:08 |
| sledges | :D | 02:08 |
| sandy_locke | ah, issue | 02:09 |
| sandy_locke | ? | 02:09 |
| sandy_locke | I'm in landscape | 02:09 |
| * sledges already in bed, now letting eyes shutting down :D | 02:09 | |
| sandy_locke | and the "recharge battery" won't go | 02:09 |
| sledges | click on it | 02:09 |
| sledges | they dont go | 02:09 |
| sledges | :D | 02:09 |
| sandy_locke | even if I click it | 02:10 |
| sledges | power btn twice | 02:10 |
| sledges | and | 02:10 |
| sledges | zypper ref zypper dup asap | 02:10 |
| sledges | ;) | 02:10 |
| sandy_locke | screen is frozen, power 2x doesn't work | 02:10 |
| sandy_locke | maybe just a reboot will do | 02:11 |
| sledges | try unplugging cable | 02:11 |
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| sledges | yea that too | 02:11 |
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| sandy_locke | cable already unplugged | 02:11 |
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| sandy_locke | sledges: are you sleeeeping ? | 02:15 |
| sledges | half :P | 02:15 |
| sandy_locke | ;) | 02:16 |
| sledges | reboot helped? | 02:16 |
| sandy_locke | ok, still frozen | 02:16 |
| sandy_locke | no | 02:16 |
| sandy_locke | I want to ssh into it to zypper dup | 02:16 |
| sledges | same trick | 02:16 |
| sledges | ifconfig etc | 02:16 |
| sandy_locke | but I tried what seemed to be it's IP, and added the fingerprint, but it says permission denied then | 02:16 |
| sledges | sudo? | 02:17 |
| sledges | its ip is 2.15 | 02:17 |
| sledges | but | 02:17 |
| sandy_locke | nope | 02:17 |
| sandy_locke | yeah, I tried wifi, but it would be better with usb yeah | 02:17 |
| sandy_locke | but 2.15 doesn't do | 02:17 |
| sandy_locke | ah done :D | 02:19 |
| sandy_locke | I did what you told me | 02:19 |
| sledges | :D | 02:19 |
| sandy_locke | it works | 02:19 |
| sandy_locke | so zypper ref then zypper dup | 02:19 |
| sledges | yes | 02:19 |
| sledges | as root | 02:19 |
| sledges | and start | 02:19 |
| sledges | with | 02:19 |
| sledges | screen | 02:19 |
| sledges | command first | 02:19 |
| sledges | later can reattach to it if get disconn, with screen -dx | 02:20 |
| sandy_locke | arf, no connection | 02:20 |
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| sandy_locke | it can't reach the repo | 02:20 |
| sledges | ofc :D | 02:20 |
| sandy_locke | workaround ? | 02:21 |
| sledges | try killall lipstick | 02:21 |
| sledges | maybe unfreeze?.. | 02:21 |
| sledges | otherwise google for USBNetworking Nemo | 02:21 |
| sledges | for internet over usb sharing instructions | 02:21 |
| sledges | or | 02:21 |
| sledges | tr7 2013.11.08 image from timoph websitr i pasted you | 02:22 |
| sledges | *try | 02:22 |
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| sledges | thats all from me for now speak in 7 hours :D | 02:23 |
| sandy_locke | ok | 02:23 |
| * sledges over & out :) | 02:23 | |
| sandy_locke | thx sledges :) | 02:23 |
| sandy_locke | nice nite :) | 02:23 |
| sledges | we got somewhere, thanks for patience | 02:23 |
| sandy_locke | and yours! | 02:24 |
| sledges | as you see we found bugs in images.. | 02:24 |
| sandy_locke | yup | 02:24 |
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| sandy_locke | maybe locusf could provide me a fresh one | 02:24 |
| sandy_locke | I'll let it like this for tonite | 02:25 |
| sandy_locke | I'll take it back tomorrow | 02:25 |
| sandy_locke | nite sledges :) | 02:26 |
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| niqt | morning | 07:55 |
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| rcg | morning | 08:06 |
| Stskeeps | morn rcg | 08:06 |
| rcg | hey Stskeeps, how's it going? | 08:06 |
| Stskeeps | good good | 08:06 |
| rcg | great :) | 08:06 |
| rcg | family is also doing fine? | 08:06 |
| Stskeeps | yes, kiddo's developing well | 08:06 |
| rcg | cool :) | 08:07 |
| rcg | our small fella got his first teeth some weeks ago :) | 08:07 |
| Stskeeps | yeah.. i think ours is teething | 08:08 |
| rcg | hehe, we thought that for about 5-6 weeks. seems like there are always some phases in which the small ones are more twitchy than usual. | 08:10 |
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| rcg | family aside, all eyes are on next wednesday, right? | 08:13 |
| Stskeeps | wednesday.. what's happening there again | 08:13 |
| Stskeeps | oh, right | 08:13 |
| rcg | :D | 08:13 |
| rcg | sunrise in the morning, sunset in the evening | 08:13 |
| rcg | btw. how are the guys from ubuntu pushing to libhybris upstream? | 08:14 |
| Stskeeps | same way as everybody else, merge requests.. | 08:14 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:14 |
| rcg | xD | 08:14 |
| rcg | well, but they do push upstream? | 08:14 |
| Stskeeps | sure | 08:15 |
| rcg | great :) | 08:15 |
| rcg | didn't follow that one closely. just remembered that there were some issues at the start | 08:15 |
| rcg | but well, don't want to dig out old stories | 08:16 |
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| sledges | morni | 08:44 |
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| juiceme | wednesday, yes, 7 days to go :) | 08:45 |
| sledges | :) | 08:47 |
| rcg | hey sledges | 08:47 |
| sledges | ahoj rcg | 08:47 |
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| zbenjamin | qwazix: hey how are you?` still fighting the flu? | 13:12 |
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| sledges | dead silence in here zbenjamin, maybe only us survived the pandemic %) | 13:19 |
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| locusf | lol | 13:30 |
| sledges | one more survivor ;) | 13:31 |
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| sandy_locke | hi o/ | 13:52 |
| sandy_locke | sledges: thx again for yesterday :) | 13:52 |
| locusf | sandy_locke: you needed a fresh ARM image | 13:52 |
| locusf | ? | 13:52 |
| sandy_locke | locusf: yes I do :) | 13:52 |
| locusf | sandy_locke: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:GWFWGUY3UQ5C7FQPVIO7BJBZJNPAPDCD&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3A80%2Fannounce | 13:52 |
| sandy_locke | the one I have just freeze | 13:52 |
| sledges | wait guys | 13:53 |
| sledges | we tried yours locusf | 13:53 |
| sledges | (timoph's) | 13:53 |
| sledges | and it blackscreened | 13:53 |
| locusf | oh | 13:53 |
| sledges | sorry | 13:53 |
| timoph | the new image? | 13:53 |
| sledges | not timoph's | 13:53 |
| locusf | interesting | 13:53 |
| sledges | locusf's new image blackscreened | 13:53 |
| sandy_locke | ah yeah, if this is this one, it doesn't boot at all | 13:53 |
| sledges | timoph's froze | 13:53 |
| timoph | :/ | 13:54 |
| sledges | we haven't tried your 2013-11-04.1 one yet timoph | 13:54 |
| timoph | ok. neither have I :) | 13:54 |
| sledges | :D | 13:54 |
| sledges | i have | 13:54 |
| sledges | and it worked | 13:54 |
| timoph | oh. cool | 13:54 |
| timoph | I just build it and didn't have the time to test it | 13:55 |
| sledges | but i have not tried any that sandy_locke tried :)) | 13:55 |
| sandy_locke | so 4th nov work ? | 13:55 |
| sledges | sandy_locke: yes | 13:55 |
| sandy_locke | and what's the dl link then ? | 13:55 |
| sledges | http://timoph.fi/nemomobile/0.20130801.2.NEMO.2013-11-04.1/nemo-armv7hl-n950-rnd/ | 13:55 |
| sandy_locke | I'll try it | 13:55 |
| sledges | so, locusf and timoph, don't get upset, it might not be you, it might be sandy_locke's n9 ;) | 13:56 |
| timoph | no worries :) | 13:56 |
| * sledges drumrolls for 4th November image test | 13:56 | |
| sandy_locke | I take it even if the image is called 1st of August ? (with upload time at 4th nov?) | 13:57 |
| sledges | it's too slim chance that two images simply get fubar'ed (and other zypper dups don't) | 13:57 |
| timoph | I need to take a closer look at the build scripts if I messed up something | 13:57 |
| sledges | no timoph, sandy_locke it's the mer's version | 13:57 |
| sandy_locke | ah ok | 13:58 |
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| sledges | timoph: thanks for package manager and patience, you will still need it ;) | 13:58 |
| sandy_locke | timoph: as sledges says, it could be my n9, he is very uncooperative ^^ | 13:59 |
| timoph | ok | 13:59 |
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| locusf | I haven't gotten any feedback from twitter as of yet | 14:00 |
| sandy_locke | ok, sledges , I need the command line to format sdb ? | 14:00 |
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| sledges | sandy_locke: backlog ;D | 14:01 |
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| timoph | I need to take a closer look at the build/release scripts anyway since I'm not that familiar with those | 14:01 |
| timoph | I'm thinking about setting up something like bi-weekly automated image creation and upload | 14:02 |
| locusf | I gotta take a look too at some point as I'm gonna be the release master as of yesterdayy | 14:02 |
| timoph | or montly. dunno yet | 14:02 |
| timoph | :) | 14:02 |
| locusf | lbt tasked me to build automated torrent adder for IMG | 14:02 |
| timoph | do you have a place to host images or do you need me to continue hosting those? | 14:03 |
| timoph | I can if needed | 14:03 |
| locusf | timoph: I do, at releases.nemomobile.org | 14:03 |
| timoph | cool | 14:03 |
| timoph | better place for them anyway | 14:03 |
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| sandy_locke | sledges: sdb won't mount ^^ | 14:06 |
| sandy_locke | no medium found | 14:06 |
| sledges | did you 'catch it' ? | 14:07 |
| sandy_locke | catch it ? | 14:07 |
| sandy_locke | it is in dmesg if that's what you mean | 14:07 |
| sledges | boot with usb posessed by linux vm | 14:07 |
| sandy_locke | that's what I did, I'll retry | 14:07 |
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| sledges | in as early stages of boot as possible | 14:09 |
| sandy_locke | yeah, linux didn't catch it, you were right :) | 14:09 |
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| * sledges gone fishing | 14:10 | |
| sledges | is all about sealife isn't it ;) | 14:10 |
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| sandy_locke | in great depth | 14:12 |
| sledges | :D | 14:12 |
| sledges | doesn't feel out of plaice | 14:13 |
| sandy_locke | moment of truth... | 14:13 |
| sledges | O_o | 14:13 |
| sandy_locke | boot screen displayed... | 14:14 |
| * Morpog_N9 drumrolls | 14:14 | |
| sandy_locke | it... works :D | 14:14 |
| sledges | \o/ | 14:14 |
| sandy_locke | no freeze | 14:14 |
| sledges | time to scratch the images? ;) | 14:15 |
| sandy_locke | I'll update the thingy | 14:15 |
| sledges | i can test them briefly locusf timoph | 14:15 |
| * sandy_locke scratching the image... "good girl" | 14:15 | |
| timoph | :) | 14:15 |
| sledges | :D | 14:15 |
| locusf | lol :D | 14:15 |
| sandy_locke | is there only one screen ? there's no multitask screen nor notification screen... | 14:17 |
| sledges | 3 screens | 14:18 |
| sledges | launcher, switcher, and empty feed | 14:18 |
| sledges | showing date | 14:18 |
| sandy_locke | nope, I'm in landscape, and no way to swipe left or right | 14:18 |
| locusf | tough customer you | 14:18 |
| sledges | :D | 14:18 |
| sandy_locke | anyway, I'll ssh into it and zypper dup | 14:18 |
| sandy_locke | :D | 14:18 |
| sledges | sledges scratches sandy_locke ... | 14:19 |
| Morpog_N9 | zypper it | 14:19 |
| sandy_locke | ^^;) | 14:19 |
| sledges | but when i flashed that image, was all good... | 14:19 |
| sandy_locke | if I plug it in, I can ssh into it via USB w/o further setup ? | 14:19 |
| sledges | locusf: timoph: could (one of) you just bake another one now please? and I'll test it right here | 14:20 |
| sledges | sandy_locke: backlog says ifconfig 192.168.2.1 | 14:20 |
| sandy_locke | ok | 14:20 |
| sandy_locke | I remember | 14:20 |
| timoph | sledges: can't do one now :/ | 14:21 |
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| sledges | whoever first then ;) | 14:22 |
| timoph | don't have the needed stuff on this machine. don't have my hacking machine with me | 14:22 |
| locusf | I can do it, uno momento | 14:22 |
| sandy_locke | ah, no, the 3 screen are back :D | 14:22 |
| sandy_locke | must have been doing stuffs in the background before loading them ? | 14:22 |
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| sandy_locke | 25mb upgrade :) | 14:25 |
| sandy_locke | I *really* like the new look btw :D | 14:25 |
| sandy_locke | was waiting for further implementation, and I'm well served :) | 14:26 |
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| sandy_locke | btw, last time I installed nemo (maybe 2 months from now) once the battery completely drained everything was messed up when I recharged | 14:27 |
| sandy_locke | meaning, no access to harmattan anymore, nor to nemo | 14:27 |
| sandy_locke | do you think this is fixed ? | 14:27 |
| locusf | sledges: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:2N3WU4A5FPSZDAVGCEA6TQSOKTXC2EA5&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3A80%2Fannounce | 14:27 |
| sledges | battery needs to be charged well | 14:27 |
| sandy_locke | yeah I know sledges ;) | 14:27 |
| sledges | i mean | 14:27 |
| sledges | if it'Ãs 1%, systems will not boot | 14:27 |
| sledges | suffering with same problem | 14:28 |
| sandy_locke | but sometimes, you forget to cuddle your thingy and it just go to sleep quietly | 14:28 |
| sledges | or if it's 2%, boots halfway, then dies with 0% again | 14:28 |
| sledges | O_O | 14:28 |
| sandy_locke | hum, no kinky stuff implied ofc ^^ | 14:28 |
| Morpog_N9 | sledges, you just need a strong wall charger | 14:28 |
| sledges | can't refrain from innyourendos | 14:28 |
| sledges | yea, for good half hour | 14:29 |
| sledges | which i don't normally have | 14:29 |
| sledges | (the half hour that is) | 14:29 |
| sledges | :D | 14:29 |
| locusf | sledges: is it working or not :p | 14:29 |
| locusf | ah got it now | 14:29 |
| sledges | :D just clicked add, works like charm, thanks! | 14:29 |
| locusf | I'll do the dishes, finally | 14:29 |
| sandy_locke | but I actually never really suffered of this 1%/2% stuff your talking about | 14:29 |
| sledges | that was faaast | 14:29 |
| locusf | gotta love em torrents | 14:29 |
| sledges | im suffering as the battery is soo oold | 14:29 |
| Morpog_N9 | replace it | 14:30 |
| sandy_locke | once drained, the n9 charges as always, waiting to have enough battery to boot | 14:30 |
| sandy_locke | without hassle | 14:30 |
| sledges | probably some flash memory corruption smelted your n9 then | 14:30 |
| locusf | I wish I had a powered USB port on my motherboard | 14:30 |
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| sandy_locke | ok | 14:30 |
| sandy_locke | locusf: why don't you have ? | 14:31 |
| sandy_locke | I thought all computer had powered USB ports nowadays... | 14:31 |
| locusf | sandy_locke: its a new feature, even though I have a beast motherboard otherwise | 14:31 |
| locusf | they do but they only carry a little power | 14:31 |
| sledges | all standard usbs aren't powered enough (amps?) | 14:31 |
| locusf | 2A could be great | 14:31 |
| locusf | yeah | 14:31 |
| Morpog_N9 | locusf, those can only charge at high output | 14:31 |
| Morpog_N9 | so not so ideal | 14:32 |
| sandy_locke | There are some running programs that use files deleted by recent upgrade. You may wish to restart some of them. Run 'zypper ps' to list these programs. | 14:32 |
| sandy_locke | do I need to worry ? | 14:32 |
| sledges | no | 14:32 |
| sandy_locke | k | 14:33 |
| sandy_locke | :) | 14:33 |
| Eztran_ | That's normal. Zypper's great like that :) | 14:33 |
| sledges | reboot now best bet though | 14:33 |
| Morpog_N9 | just reboot | 14:33 |
| sledges | killall lipstick nto recommended for >2 weeks worth upgrades ;) | 14:33 |
| Eztran_ | Not considering the rate you guys go through updates, surely. | 14:33 |
| sandy_locke | this nokia "warranty" odd advertisement will get on my nerves, I know it! ^^ | 14:34 |
| Morpog_N9 | we tag new releases daily just to make it look we were developing hard :D | 14:34 |
| sledges | now it's a mad rate from nemo:mw by YouKnow, many times been pleasantly surprised how things are improving with each zypper dup | 14:35 |
| sledges | *YouKnowWho | 14:35 |
| sledges | though Jolla seem to follow two steps forward one step back experience ;) | 14:35 |
| Morpog_N9 | and they sctrwed my VM experience ;) | 14:36 |
| sledges | too true! | 14:36 |
| Morpog_N9 | screwed* | 14:36 |
| sandy_locke | ok, guys, I have a situation here ! | 14:38 |
| sandy_locke | after zypper dup, double restart, I've got the freezes again! | 14:38 |
| sandy_locke | right now, am in lockscreen and swipe doesn't do anything | 14:39 |
| sandy_locke | touch doesn't seem to be recognized | 14:39 |
| * sledges updates his n9... | 14:41 | |
| * sandy_locke thinks he is doomed or something | 14:41 | |
| sledges | i always though Nokia is a she ;) | 14:41 |
| sledges | sandy_locke: funny question: do you hold her in your hand when swiping? | 14:42 |
| sledges | (that's how capacitive screens work) | 14:42 |
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| sandy_locke | sledges: yes, softly ;) | 14:42 |
| sledges | O_o | 14:42 |
| sledges | good | 14:42 |
| sledges | :D | 14:42 |
| sandy_locke | when I just boot, I tap on icons and they just size up, one by one | 14:43 |
| sledges | I remember I couldn't swipe nemo when in car stuck behind steering wheel due to loss of capacitivity | 14:43 |
| sledges | aaaaaa | 14:43 |
| sledges | known bus! | 14:43 |
| sledges | bug | 14:43 |
| sledges | ! | 14:43 |
| sledges | is usb connected? | 14:43 |
| sandy_locke | ah ? | 14:43 |
| sandy_locke | no | 14:43 |
| sledges | this is driving me mad seriously | 14:43 |
| sandy_locke | should I ? | 14:43 |
| sandy_locke | me too, don't worry :) | 14:44 |
| sledges | i had size-up icons bug | 14:44 |
| sledges | i thought it was my dodgy usb cable | 14:44 |
| sledges | then it went away after dup | 14:44 |
| sandy_locke | and what did you do ? | 14:44 |
| sandy_locke | but I just dupped^^ | 14:44 |
| sledges | now qwazix has the same couple of days ago | 14:44 |
| sledges | i dupped yesterday, was all fine | 14:44 |
| Morpog_N9 | dup again? | 14:44 |
| sledges | so if i dup it now, i think it will play up again | 14:44 |
| sledges | i have a suspet, but won't tell names until dupp now, give me a sec ;) | 14:44 |
| sledges | *suspect | 14:44 |
| sandy_locke | Morpog_N9: nothing to do | 14:45 |
| Morpog_N9 | mmmh | 14:45 |
| sandy_locke | ok | 14:45 |
| Morpog_N9 | reinstall something | 14:45 |
| Morpog_N9 | like lipstick | 14:46 |
| sledges | downgrade would be better bet | 14:46 |
| sandy_locke | sledges: is it possible to dg ? | 14:46 |
| sandy_locke | it's a pitty cuz portrait worked this time :( | 14:47 |
| sledges | not really, if it's one of the base components | 14:47 |
| sledges | bearrrrr with me | 14:47 |
| sandy_locke | yeah, I bear, I bear :) | 14:47 |
| * sandy_locke bears <rooooarrrr> | 14:47 | |
| sledges | dead-ish battery, <i think i need a new one> | 14:48 |
| sandy_locke | battery for n9 are cheap | 14:48 |
| sandy_locke | but hard to change | 14:48 |
| * sandy_locke realize that he didn't eat anything today | 14:48 | |
| * sledges is a regular disassembler of n9, proud of resoldering usb socket ^_^ | 14:48 | |
| * sandy_locke thinks sledges is a swiss army knife | 14:49 | |
| sledges | more lithuanian, but who knows.. | 14:49 |
| sandy_locke | ^^ | 14:50 |
| sledges | WHAT!? | 14:50 |
| sledges | icons are sizing up | 14:50 |
| sledges | i didn't dup | 14:50 |
| sandy_locke | yeah, just like me :D | 14:50 |
| sledges | does it depend on time!?!? | 14:50 |
| sandy_locke | lol | 14:50 |
| sledges | it can also be | 14:50 |
| sledges | if you boot with usb plugged in | 14:50 |
| sledges | or not | 14:50 |
| sandy_locke | nemo is having a strike | 14:50 |
| sledges | O_o | 14:50 |
| sledges | :D | 14:50 |
| sandy_locke | I boot tethered as I didn't setup a multiboot kernel | 14:51 |
| sandy_locke | so I boot with usb plugged in, until MOSLO loads, then unplug and let the fish swim | 14:51 |
| sledges | yea, but plug it out just before pressing VolumeDown | 14:51 |
| sandy_locke | yup | 14:52 |
| sandy_locke | I need to, otherwise I don't get invite to boot at all... | 14:52 |
| sledges | no no | 14:52 |
| sledges | after alt_os exported | 14:52 |
| sledges | plug it out | 14:52 |
| sledges | and continue boot | 14:53 |
| sandy_locke | that's what I do | 14:53 |
| sledges | i will test that when battery charges up a bit | 14:53 |
| sandy_locke | with volume down key | 14:53 |
| sledges | aaaaaaa | 14:53 |
| sledges | yes | 14:53 |
| sandy_locke | ah ? | 14:53 |
| sledges | but do you plug it back? | 14:53 |
| sandy_locke | nope | 14:53 |
| sledges | argh | 14:53 |
| sandy_locke | should I ? | 14:53 |
| sledges | if you will, you will boot just like i did now..... | 14:54 |
| sandy_locke | ? | 14:54 |
| sledges | with usb plugged in | 14:54 |
| sledges | and still get size-ups | 14:54 |
| sandy_locke | so nothing really exciting, both way just fail :( | 14:55 |
| sledges | need to troubleshoot deeper | 14:55 |
| sandy_locke | deeper in the see | 14:55 |
| sandy_locke | sea* | 14:55 |
| sledges | we'll see ;) | 14:55 |
| sandy_locke | we'll sea* | 14:55 |
| locusf | sledges: hows the image? | 14:56 |
| sledges | locusf: downloaded, not tested | 14:56 |
| sandy_locke | locusf: the image I tested is good, only no portrait mode | 14:56 |
| sledges | as we are on a bug case | 14:56 |
| locusf | sledges: cool | 14:56 |
| locusf | sandy_locke: yeah, you'll get it soon :) | 14:56 |
| sandy_locke | I got it, I got it, just after dupping, but now everything is unresponsive and I got this size up icons bug | 14:57 |
| sandy_locke | we would have make this effect on purpose, we wouldn't have succeded ;) | 14:58 |
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| sledges | yea, not a bug, is a feature | 14:59 |
| sandy_locke | ofc ;) | 14:59 |
| sandy_locke | "we are unlike" :P | 14:59 |
| sledges | special: ping | 14:59 |
| iekku | :O | 15:00 |
| sledges | iekku: o_O | 15:00 |
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| sledges | it might be | 15:09 |
| sledges | that i zypper dupped | 15:09 |
| sledges | and then killall lipstick | 15:09 |
| sledges | instead of rebooting, yesterday | 15:09 |
| sledges | so the sneaky bug crept in | 15:09 |
| locusf | me too | 15:09 |
| locusf | so no rebooting for a working lipstick | 15:09 |
| sledges | :D | 15:10 |
| sledges | simples | 15:10 |
| sledges | the only way to find out | 15:12 |
| sledges | is to boot locusf's 20131119 image | 15:12 |
| sledges | and update package-by-package | 15:12 |
| sledges | rebooting each time | 15:12 |
| sledges | i put my bets on qtwayland | 15:13 |
| locusf | so yesterdays image | 15:13 |
| sledges | yeap | 15:13 |
| sledges | if that doesn't blackscreen ;) | 15:13 |
| sledges | still haven't tested | 15:13 |
| locusf | ok, take your time | 15:13 |
| sandy_locke | but sledges , I didn't killall lipstick, I rebooted right away, and still had the bug | 15:15 |
| sledges | sandy_locke: that's why you got the sizeup bug right away | 15:15 |
| sandy_locke | mmmh | 15:15 |
| locusf | 6 packages to be downloaded <- this is how many got updated since yesterday | 15:15 |
| sandy_locke | ok I understand | 15:15 |
| sledges | locusf: which image as ref? | 15:15 |
| locusf | yesterdays | 15:15 |
| locusf | mic reported that | 15:16 |
| sandy_locke | ok sledges , good luck then | 15:16 |
| sledges | locusf: got you | 15:16 |
| sledges | thanks ;) | 15:16 |
| sledges | sandy_locke: how full is your battery? | 15:20 |
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| sandy_locke | full | 15:20 |
| sledges | ok thanks | 15:20 |
| sledges | locusf: are you in a broken state now? | 15:25 |
| locusf | sledges: I don't know actually | 15:26 |
| sledges | tap | 15:26 |
| sledges | ;) | 15:26 |
| locusf | tap? | 15:26 |
| sledges | on screen | 15:26 |
| sledges | do swipes work? | 15:26 |
| locusf | yes | 15:27 |
| sledges | can you launch apps | 15:27 |
| sledges | on n9 | 15:27 |
| sledges | very good | 15:27 |
| locusf | yes | 15:27 |
| sledges | systemctl | grep failed | 15:27 |
| sledges | please paste ^ | 15:27 |
| locusf | http://pastie.org/8495585 | 15:28 |
| sledges | systemctl | grep ohmd | 15:28 |
| locusf | http://pastie.org/8495591 | 15:29 |
| sledges | rpm -qf /usr/share/policy/rules/current/policy.dres | 15:30 |
| locusf | http://pastie.org/8495595 | 15:31 |
| sledges | hmph | 15:31 |
| sledges | ps aux | grep ohm | 15:32 |
| sledges | (you can paste here if it's a oneliner) | 15:32 |
| locusf | root 238 0.3 0.5 12532 5204 ? Ss Nov19 6:21 /usr/sbin/ohmd --no-daemon | 15:33 |
| locusf | nemo 1234 0.0 0.1 5912 1304 ? Ss Nov19 0:00 /usr/bin/ohm-session-agent | 15:34 |
| locusf | also | 15:34 |
| sledges | rpm -qf /usr/sbin/ohmd | 15:34 |
| locusf | ohm-1.1.15-4.1.Nemo.armv7hl | 15:34 |
| sledges | dang same here | 15:35 |
| sledges | why yours launch mine errors out? | 15:35 |
| sledges | [root@localhost nemo]# /usr/sbin/ohmd --no-daemon | 15:35 |
| sledges | E: failed to to open resolver file "/usr/share/policy/rules/current/policy.dres" | 15:35 |
| locusf | haven't rebooted | 15:35 |
| sledges | don't reboot | 15:37 |
| locusf | ok | 15:41 |
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| sledges | locusf: can you pipe paste your journalctl ? | 15:44 |
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| locusf | hmm, lets take a look | 15:44 |
| locusf | probably ssh to my box and then | 15:44 |
| sledges | just journalctl > j.out | 15:45 |
| sledges | scp | 15:45 |
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| locusf | no, sizelimit | 15:46 |
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| sledges | oki but thanks for the try | 15:46 |
| locusf | np | 15:49 |
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| sandy_locke | sledges: any news ? | 16:16 |
| sledges | sandy_locke: do you have device up sshed? | 16:17 |
| sandy_locke | nope, but it's a question of 2min | 16:18 |
| sledges | yes please :) | 16:18 |
| sandy_locke | ok, ssh & root sledges | 16:20 |
| sledges | sandy_locke: | 16:20 |
| sledges | systemctl | grep failed | 16:20 |
| sandy_locke | https://pastee.org/7adn6 | 16:21 |
| sledges | sandy_locke: | 16:21 |
| sledges | journalctl > journal.out | 16:21 |
| sledges | then on your linux vm: | 16:22 |
| sledges | scp nemo@192.168.2.15:journal.out . | 16:22 |
| sledges | and paste contents | 16:22 |
| sandy_locke | blank | 16:22 |
| sledges | as root | 16:22 |
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| sledges | a | 16:22 |
| sledges | yes | 16:22 |
| sledges | it is blank | 16:22 |
| sandy_locke | yes as root | 16:22 |
| sledges | because everything is now on that file :P | 16:22 |
| sandy_locke | ok | 16:22 |
| sandy_locke | journal.out 100% 42KB 42.3KB/s 00:00 | 16:23 |
| sledges | and paste its contents | 16:23 |
| locusf | 42KB | 16:23 |
| sandy_locke | ^ | 16:23 |
| sandy_locke | ah | 16:23 |
| sandy_locke | ok | 16:23 |
| locusf | no wonder it didn't let me pastebin | 16:23 |
| sledges | locusf: | 16:24 |
| sledges | ah | 16:24 |
| sledges | dropbox them | 16:24 |
| sledges | locusf: I thought you meant sizelimit is of your journalctl | 16:25 |
| locusf | no public links | 16:25 |
| sandy_locke | https://pastee.org/e56qe | 16:25 |
| sledges | another email account? ;) | 16:25 |
| sandy_locke | pastee accept it | 16:25 |
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| sledges | locusf: your log is only hope now ;) | 16:26 |
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| locusf | hmm | 16:26 |
| sledges | there are many hosting sites | 16:26 |
| sledges | and pasting too | 16:27 |
| sledges | (pastebin.com oldest (?)) | 16:27 |
| locusf | [root@localhost ~]# ls -la journal.out | 16:27 |
| locusf | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1118143 2013-11-20 18:27 journal.out | 16:27 |
| sandy_locke | sledges: anything interesting in journal.out ? | 16:27 |
| sandy_locke | locusf: strange, mine is 43kb | 16:28 |
| sledges | locusf: zip, or just cut first 42KB :D | 16:28 |
| locusf | I'll putlocker it | 16:28 |
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| sledges | \o/ | 16:29 |
| sandy_locke | ? | 16:29 |
| locusf | http://www.putlocker.com/file/780ACCCBCF70B7DF | 16:30 |
| sledges | sandy_locke: i need to compare with locusf's | 16:30 |
| sandy_locke | ok | 16:30 |
| zbenjamin | sledges: seems others survived too ;) I'm still fighting .... i guess after the virat infect i catched something else :/ | 16:30 |
| sledges | zbenjamin: ouch, all best for you! | 16:30 |
| sledges | sandy_locke: do you have microSIM card in your n9? | 16:37 |
| sandy_locke | no, no simcard | 16:37 |
| locusf | I do | 16:37 |
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| sledges | guess what | 16:43 |
| sledges | my n9 just started to work | 16:43 |
| sledges | after numerous reboots | 16:43 |
| sledges | i think | 16:43 |
| sledges | it's because | 16:43 |
| locusf | cool | 16:43 |
| sledges | the sun just went down | 16:43 |
| locusf | whaa | 16:43 |
| sledges | can't think of any other reason, that's why :D | 16:44 |
| Stskeeps | sledges: broken ALS | 16:44 |
| Stskeeps | ? | 16:44 |
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| sledges | Stskeeps: for mine, sandy_locke and qwazix N9s ? | 16:45 |
| sledges | locusf: time to reboot, i have your journal ;) | 16:45 |
| Stskeeps | sledges: yours | 16:45 |
| locusf | sledges: fingers crossed | 16:45 |
| sledges | Stskeeps: all 3 of us experiencing identical symptoms | 16:46 |
| sledges | drumroll for locusf ;) | 16:46 |
| locusf | sledges: what, me reboot? | 16:46 |
| sledges | locusf: yea | 16:46 |
| locusf | ah ok | 16:46 |
| sledges | ;) i got your journal, and I know where you live | 16:46 |
| sledges | (do I?) | 16:46 |
| sledges | Stskeeps: or did you just watch my video? | 16:47 |
| sledges | ;P | 16:47 |
| Stskeeps | no | 16:47 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 16:47 |
| locusf | all good | 16:47 |
| locusf | booted to normal env | 16:47 |
| sledges | locusf: dupped when? | 16:48 |
| locusf | yesterday | 16:50 |
| locusf | http://pastie.org/8495852 | 16:50 |
| locusf | and now | 16:50 |
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| sledges | reboot | 16:50 |
| sledges | ;) | 16:50 |
| locusf | did | 16:50 |
| sledges | all good? | 16:51 |
| locusf | nothing yet | 16:51 |
| locusf | black screen at the moment | 16:51 |
| locusf | rebooted | 16:51 |
| * sledges drumrolls | 16:51 | |
| locusf | without my interaction | 16:51 |
| locusf | boot screen | 16:52 |
| locusf | black screen, normal env | 16:52 |
| locusf | works | 16:52 |
| sledges | ok | 16:52 |
| locusf | ah no | 16:52 |
| locusf | I get enlarged icons when tapping | 16:52 |
| locusf | and can't swipe | 16:52 |
| locusf | sound familiar? | 16:52 |
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| locusf | so close .. | 16:53 |
| sledges | \o/ | 16:54 |
| locusf | http://www.putlocker.com/file/839B65444605C67E | 16:54 |
| sledges | Stskeeps: ALS? don't think so ;) | 16:54 |
| locusf | new journalctl | 16:54 |
| locusf | unusable system | 16:55 |
| sledges | locusf: welcome to the broken world :D | 16:55 |
| locusf | yeah | 16:55 |
| sledges | "and then there were 3" ;) | 16:55 |
| locusf | :D | 16:55 |
| sledges | at least we can always go back to yesterday's iamge | 16:56 |
| sledges | image | 16:56 |
| locusf | rebuilt colorful-home | 16:57 |
| locusf | and dsme | 16:57 |
| sandy_locke | so sledges , your n9 behaving correctly now was all a joke ? | 16:57 |
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| sledges | it wasn't | 16:57 |
| sandy_locke | sun down didn't help ? | 16:57 |
| sledges | it needs some circumstances to boot fine | 16:58 |
| sandy_locke | put a sim card ? | 16:58 |
| sledges | locusf: please reboot to MOSLO, and run fsck on your exported /dev/sdX | 16:58 |
| locusf | https://github.com/spiiroin/dsme/commit/ae1b8badce165b3f5a45418df31e998c67515f58 | 16:58 |
| locusf | sledges: ok | 16:58 |
| sledges | because mine just got corrupted | 16:58 |
| locusf | oh | 16:58 |
| locusf | thats a long shot but lets see | 16:59 |
| sledges | it is | 16:59 |
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| sledges | also called distributed troubleshooting ;) | 16:59 |
| locusf | hmm lost+found not found | 17:00 |
| locusf | ok fscked now | 17:00 |
| sledges | no errors? | 17:00 |
| locusf | no errors | 17:00 |
| sledges | locusf: if you have some thyme on your hands | 17:09 |
| sledges | you could rsync back to yesterday's image | 17:09 |
| sledges | and update only innocent components | 17:09 |
| sledges | only 6 to go ;) | 17:09 |
| sledges | one by one, reboot each time | 17:09 |
| sledges | start with colorful home i guess, mind which deps they pull in | 17:09 |
| locusf | okay | 17:10 |
| sledges | many thanks | 17:10 |
| locusf | what was the rsync spell | 17:10 |
| sledges | as you might have shot already | 17:10 |
| sledges | dsme is targetted | 17:10 |
| sledges | sudo rsync -rlpgovc --delete src dest | 17:11 |
| locusf | yeah thanks | 17:11 |
| locusf | I think that the colorful-home and lipstick ones are just rebuilds with just newer release numbers | 17:11 |
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| sledges | yup | 17:12 |
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| locusf | hmm | 17:15 |
| locusf | yesterdays image still same after rsyncing | 17:16 |
| locusf | buggy homescreen | 17:16 |
| locusf | and no wifi | 17:16 |
| locusf | crap | 17:16 |
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| sledges | so unbelievable unpredictable! | 17:17 |
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| locusf | dup results in : http://pastie.org/8495940 | 17:19 |
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| sledges | locusf: so you unpacked fresh image to your host | 17:20 |
| sledges | and rsynced from there? | 17:20 |
| locusf | yes | 17:20 |
| sledges | with --delete option? hmmmmmm | 17:20 |
| sledges | do ssu ur | 17:20 |
| sledges | and try to dup again | 17:20 |
| locusf | hmm my middle monitor might have just died | 17:21 |
| locusf | nope | 17:22 |
| locusf | http://pastie.org/8495947 | 17:22 |
| sledges | zypper up dsme | 17:23 |
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| sledges | see what outputs | 17:23 |
| locusf | http://pastie.org/8495953 | 17:24 |
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| sledges | well done | 17:24 |
| sledges | reboot | 17:24 |
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| sledges | erm | 17:24 |
| sledges | was it in broken state still? | 17:24 |
| sledges | i gues it was | 17:24 |
| locusf | yes | 17:24 |
| sledges | we might be chasing ghosts | 17:24 |
| locusf | yeah | 17:24 |
| * sledges spitting teeth | 17:25 | |
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| qwazix | I expected a happy end after reading so much backlog | 17:32 |
| locusf | lol :D | 17:32 |
| qwazix | my MONEY back! | 17:32 |
| sledges | :D | 17:32 |
| qwazix | :P | 17:32 |
| qwazix | zbenjamin, at least I think I'm over with the fscking flu | 17:32 |
| sledges | \o/ | 17:33 |
| * sledges goes to microwave some steak&kidney pudding | 17:33 | |
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| sledges | need to find version where it never freezes | 17:36 |
| sledges | now the chance of getting stuck up homescreen is 50% | 17:36 |
| sledges | didn'ŧ even dup | 17:36 |
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| sandy_locke | arrh, I just have to get nemo installed w/o breaking anything to see it go in bug state for everyone! | 17:39 |
| sandy_locke | it pisses me off^^ | 17:39 |
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| locusf | its ok for open source projects :) | 17:59 |
| locusf | and its rnd | 17:59 |
| mike7b4_on_x230 | qt-componets is kinda laggy when push_page in nemo? driver issue or to just slow "animation"? | 18:00 |
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| zbenjamin | sledges: thx ;) | 18:03 |
| zbenjamin | qwazix: good for you ;) i hope i'll be over with it soon too | 18:04 |
| sledges | can this irc channel be used as a channel to pass virus? %) | 18:06 |
| * sledges sneezes | 18:06 | |
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| sledges | mike7b4_on_x230: do you mean http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKiGdIQraCQ&t=0m48s ? | 18:13 |
| sledges | Stskeeps: you might be right | 18:15 |
| sledges | Jan 01 02:00:08 localhost mce[288]: mce: T+1.803 I: mce-sensorfw.c: mce_sensorfw_load_sensor(): loadPlugin(alssensor) | 18:15 |
| sledges | Jan 01 02:00:08 localhost mce[288]: *** UNRECOVERABLE FAILURE *** | 18:15 |
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| locusf | also Jan 01 02:08:49 localhost mce[427]: *** BREAK *** | 18:18 |
| sledges | the problem is that i'm not getting *** xxxx *** errors every time, even when in broken state | 18:19 |
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| special | sledges: late pong | 18:28 |
| sledges | special: we're fighting with breakage on n9 | 18:28 |
| sledges | possible ALS/mce related | 18:28 |
| sledges | dawned on us this week mostly | 18:28 |
| sledges | touch doesn't work, 50% of boots at random | 18:29 |
| sledges | only launchger icons get zoomed in to no avail after (where is that funcionality from? :)) | 18:29 |
| sledges | you could be the person to talk to (iirc from long hauled history on this channel ;) i hope im not too wrong addressing) | 18:30 |
| Stskeeps | sledges: consider building mce and git bisect'ing a bit | 18:31 |
| mike7b4_on_x230 | sledges: yes I mean that | 18:31 |
| special | so, do you mean that touch only works on 50% of boots, and when it does work, the launcher icons animate but don't launch anything? | 18:31 |
| sledges | *when it doesn't work | 18:31 |
| sledges | when it works, everything works | 18:31 |
| special | if touch doesn't work, why are icons animating? | 18:31 |
| sledges | means it works | 18:31 |
| sledges | but only for icons | 18:31 |
| sledges | not for swipes/notification dismissal | 18:32 |
| sledges | and we never did that kind of animation that is being exposed :/ | 18:32 |
| sledges | we should have busy indicator hovering | 18:32 |
| sledges | and instead we get an icon increase in size by ~10% and app doesn't launch | 18:32 |
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| special | do you have logs of any of it? | 18:33 |
| sledges | ok sec | 18:33 |
| special | mce would be a place to look, definitely | 18:33 |
| sledges | system works fine: https://pastee.org/sxwje | 18:33 |
| sledges | touch only for icons: https://pastee.org/sag7a | 18:34 |
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| sledges | mce[295]: *** UNRECOVERABLE FAILURE *** <- ignore this, appears in logs at random, not co-related to our problem | 18:35 |
| sledges | mike7b4_on_x230: no, all fast in other apps. qmlmessages must be doing some logic between the pushes | 18:37 |
| sledges | Stskeeps: i was thinking disabling plugins in 10mce.conf divide&conquer | 18:37 |
| sledges | special: i also got working+nonworking system logs with launched `mce -Tvvv --systemd` | 18:38 |
| special | I don't actually know anything about mce specifically :p | 18:39 |
| sledges | spiiroin :^ (just checked the gitrepo finally :D) | 18:39 |
| sledges | let's mb build mce ;) | 18:40 |
| special | the tklock changes come to mind for touch problems | 18:40 |
| special | they were 20 days ago according to git | 18:40 |
| sledges | aha | 18:40 |
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| sledges | this is when i noticed it first | 18:40 |
| sledges | but was one off only | 18:41 |
| sledges | i blamed it on dodgy usb cable ;) | 18:41 |
| sledges | i shouldn't have :) | 18:41 |
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| sandy_locke | so, sledges ... what's up ? | 19:05 |
| mike7b4_on_x230 | sledges, naah the QmlComponentGalleryExample is slow | 19:05 |
| sledges | mike7b4_on_x230: i tried qmlsettings | 19:05 |
| sledges | sandy_locke: im zeroing in | 19:05 |
| sandy_locke | ^^ | 19:05 |
| sandy_locke | happy-flasher ? | 19:05 |
| sledges | locked on target ;) | 19:05 |
| sandy_locke | why ? | 19:05 |
| sledges | no, last time i flashed was the first time ^_^ | 19:05 |
| sandy_locke | ah ! | 19:06 |
| sledges | fingers cross(compil)ed i wont become happy flasher :) | 19:06 |
| sandy_locke | I hope for you | 19:06 |
| mike7b4_on_x230 | sledges: hmm yes thats faster, is settings using qml-componets or Qt5Components? | 19:06 |
| sandy_locke | why are you zeroizing ? | 19:06 |
| sledges | mike7b4_on_x230: we use qtcomponents | 19:06 |
| sledges | since it's qt5 everywhere | 19:06 |
| sledges | we are using qtcomponents-qt5 ;) | 19:06 |
| sledges | glacier will be qtquickcontrols | 19:07 |
| sledges | sandy_locke: lol, not my flash memory luckily | 19:07 |
| sledges | but (im zeroing in on) the problem | 19:07 |
| sandy_locke | ah ^^ | 19:08 |
| sandy_locke | my bad, I misread | 19:08 |
| mike7b4_on_x230 | sledges: so the qml-componets is deprecated? | 19:08 |
| sledges | mike7b4_on_x230: all apps are qml | 19:08 |
| sledges | "qml-components" what is that? | 19:08 |
| sledges | qtcomponents package provide QML components for us | 19:08 |
| mike7b4_on_x230 | the nokia harmattan qt-components I mean is that deprecated? | 19:09 |
| sledges | ah harmattan, yes we are re-using those in our package called qtcomponents | 19:09 |
| sledges | it provides com.nokia* | 19:09 |
| sledges | but that past and present. in future we are moving onto qqc | 19:09 |
| sledges | you can check the source of QmlComponentsGallery and compare to src of qmlsettings, to figure out where the delay is introduced | 19:10 |
| sledges | gallery might not be boosted mind | 19:10 |
| sandy_locke | so, hem, sledges : do we have a working build, or a way to fix all this mess in a future one ? | 19:10 |
| sledges | many possibilities | 19:10 |
| sledges | sandy_locke: patience *g* | 19:10 |
| sandy_locke | oooook ;) | 19:11 |
| sledges | 10mins ;D | 19:11 |
| sandy_locke | seriously ? pb solved in 10mins ??? | 19:11 |
| sandy_locke | :D | 19:11 |
| sledges | will be | 19:11 |
| sledges | for last hours ;P | 19:11 |
| sandy_locke | ^^ | 19:11 |
| sandy_locke | ^^ | 19:11 |
| sandy_locke | you'll have earned a virtual beer ! | 19:12 |
| sledges | it ain't over till it's over :P | 19:12 |
| sandy_locke | yeah, ofc | 19:12 |
| sandy_locke | but I believe in your power sledges | 19:13 |
| sledges | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkURz6H0I0I | 19:13 |
| mike7b4_on_x230 | yes, thats why I am confused because the qt-components-qt5 is a fork of Harmattan one, and qt5has its own component, so what is the official in nemo? | 19:13 |
| sledges | i thank to guys helped above most | 19:13 |
| sandy_locke | you're the swiss army knife of this community, remember ? ;) | 19:13 |
| sledges | mike7b4_on_x230: 19:10 < sledges> but that past and present. in future we are moving onto qqc | 19:13 |
| sledges | we need more ;P | 19:13 |
| Morpog_PC | qtquickcontrols-nemo | 19:13 |
| Morpog_PC | mike7b4_on_x230, https://github.com/nemomobile/qtquickcontrols-nemo | 19:14 |
| M4rtinK | also I guess the normal QtQuick Controls should be available | 19:14 |
| sledges | M4rtinK: yes | 19:14 |
| mike7b4_on_x230 | Morpog_PC: yes but that was not installed? when doing zypper search | 19:15 |
| sledges | mike7b4_on_x230: it's not in default image | 19:15 |
| Morpog_PC | well, it's a WIP | 19:16 |
| Morpog_PC | once it's more polished it will be | 19:16 |
| sledges | just install it ;) | 19:16 |
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| mike7b4_on_x230 | sledges: so that means settings IS using harmattan import com.nokia.meego 2.0? | 19:17 |
| sledges | yes | 19:17 |
| Morpog_PC | but won't be in the future | 19:17 |
| sledges | that's the present, yes | 19:17 |
| mike7b4_on_x230 | I see :) | 19:18 |
| sledges | we'll keep legac, why not, but stock apps will transition to qqc | 19:18 |
| sledges | *legacy | 19:18 |
| mike7b4_on_x230 | but then again its wierd QmlComponentGalleryExample is slowert than settings app if bot using the com.nokia* | 19:18 |
| mike7b4_on_x230 | both* | 19:19 |
| sledges | mike7b4_on_x230: gallery might not be boosted | 19:19 |
| sledges | we use booster-qt5 | 19:19 |
| sledges | or other approaches of implementation might make it slower | 19:19 |
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| Morpog_PC | hey faenil | 19:20 |
| faenil | yo | 19:20 |
| mike7b4_on_x230 | hmm I thought booster is only on startup? | 19:21 |
| sledges | im not 100% sure | 19:21 |
| mike7b4_on_x230 | I see well well <I should not care to much if its deprecated anyway :D | 19:21 |
| sledges | ;) | 19:22 |
| Morpog_PC | sledges could that regression you are fighting atm also cause opacity bug on VM? Timeframe sounds same | 19:23 |
| sledges | unlike-ly | 19:23 |
| sledges | locusf and/or sandy_locke : please check if your /etc/mce/20als-defaults.ini looks the same: https://pastee.org/42ak2. if not, overwrite it and reboot several times. it fixed for me, but not 100% sure which config file | 19:27 |
| * sledges gotta scoot | 19:27 | |
| sledges | ill be back in an hour ;) | 19:27 |
| sledges | .rpmsave is apparently an old version :/ | 19:29 |
| sledges | sandy_locke: more patience ;P | 19:29 |
| sledges | ciao all | 19:29 |
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| sandy_locke | mooore patience :'( | 19:52 |
| sledges | try the file ;) | 19:54 |
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| sandy_locke | sledges: which one ? | 19:58 |
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| sandy_locke | ah, didn't notice the mention | 19:59 |
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| sledges | diff first | 20:01 |
| sandy_locke | wait, sledges : the issue is gone by itself ^^ | 20:02 |
| sandy_locke | just booted into nemo and it works !? | 20:02 |
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| sledges | enjoy | 20:03 |
| sandy_locke | why is that ? | 20:04 |
| sandy_locke | did you voodoo my n9 ? | 20:04 |
| sledges | just dont reboot | 20:04 |
| * sandy_locke look suspiciously at sledges | 20:04 | |
| sandy_locke | lol | 20:04 |
| sandy_locke | ok then , but there's no way to know the battery % | 20:05 |
| sledges | bmestat | 20:06 |
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| sledges | keep pluggrd :D | 20:08 |
| sandy_locke | ok, but it kills battery :( | 20:08 |
| sandy_locke | sledges: there's no ./touch_nemo in /usr/lib/qt5/examples ? | 20:09 |
| sledges | install | 20:09 |
| sandy_locke | how ^^ | 20:09 |
| sandy_locke | (bmestat = connection refused, as user & root) | 20:10 |
| sledges | zypper se examples ;) | 20:10 |
| sledges | youll find it there | 20:11 |
| sandy_locke | nevermind, I had it noted somewhere, sorry | 20:11 |
| sledges | bmestat from fingerterm | 20:11 |
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| sandy_locke | ah | 20:16 |
| sandy_locke | he, sledges also how do you refresh the homescreen to take a .desktop file into account ? | 20:17 |
| sledges | killall lipstick | 20:17 |
| sandy_locke | from ssh is good ? | 20:17 |
| sledges | it wont work qqbnemogallery.desktop :p | 20:18 |
| sandy_locke | ? | 20:18 |
| sledges | *qqc | 20:18 |
| sledges | if you are tryong that | 20:18 |
| sandy_locke | ah ? | 20:18 |
| sandy_locke | why ? | 20:18 |
| sledges | launch from terminal | 20:18 |
| sledges | ssh | 20:18 |
| sledges | as user | 20:18 |
| sledges | export QT_QUICK_CONTROLS_THEME=Nemo | 20:19 |
| sandy_locke | yeah I know, but it's boring to do that everytime | 20:20 |
| sledges | /usr/lib/qt5/examples/touch_nemo -platform wayland-egl | 20:20 |
| sledges | you need to hardcode this into desktop | 20:20 |
| sledges | proper solution cpming | 20:20 |
| sledges | soon :D | 20:20 |
| sledges | .desktop thatbis | 20:20 |
| sandy_locke | ok :) | 20:21 |
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| sledges | add Environment section to desktop | 20:22 |
| sledges | but i might horribly be wrong | 20:22 |
| sledges | best hack: Exec=/bin/sh -c 'export QT....=Nemo; /usr/lib......' | 20:23 |
| sandy_locke | I can't even get the .desktop file to appear on homescreen^^ | 20:30 |
| sandy_locke | btw, bmestat from fingerterm won't work either, as user or root | 20:31 |
| sledges | maybe malformed, in /usr/share/applications/ ? | 20:34 |
| sandy_locke | qwazix: I believe there's not enough 'unity' for the homescreen icons, it wouldn't hurt to retouch some to be less vivid | 20:34 |
| sandy_locke | yes, in this folder sledges | 20:34 |
| Morpog_PC | have a go, fork, change, PR, wait for review ;) | 20:34 |
| sandy_locke | ok Morpog_PC, I might give it a try | 20:35 |
| sandy_locke | although I'm not very good at icons | 20:35 |
| sandy_locke | or at least, I never really tried ^^ | 20:35 |
| Morpog_PC | here is clean icons repo: https://github.com/Morpog/nemo-artwork/tree/master/Icons | 20:36 |
| Morpog_PC | with SVG sources | 20:36 |
| sandy_locke | sledges: I copied the QMLComp .desktop file and changed the relevant bits btw | 20:36 |
| sledges | will check bmestat in a bit | 20:36 |
| sandy_locke | yeah Morpog_PC, I'll need to fork it | 20:36 |
| sandy_locke | I subscribed to it already, a month ago | 20:37 |
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| * sledges suspects a boot sequence timing problem for the phantom stuck-up home problem | 21:28 | |
| vgrade_ | \o sledges | 21:32 |
| sledges | vgrade_ greetings! | 21:32 |
| vgrade_ | hows things nemo | 21:33 |
| sledges | are you the answer to our burdens? ;) | 21:33 |
| sledges | not too bad, but we just got ghouled by a nasty mce(tklock) bug | 21:34 |
| vgrade_ | I've been busy with day job recently but keen to get more involved | 21:34 |
| sledges | superb! | 21:34 |
| sledges | got n9(50) around? ;) | 21:35 |
| vgrade_ | I have | 21:35 |
| vgrade_ | both | 21:35 |
| sledges | im sure you are aiming for some new-device nemo porting ;) ? | 21:35 |
| vgrade_ | Been doing mainly alwinner stuff but would be good to flash latest nemo to my n9(50) | 21:36 |
| sledges | you're our man ;) | 21:36 |
| vgrade_ | in Chicago waiting for flight home to blighty now, be back in uk tomorrow | 21:36 |
| sledges | exciting! | 21:37 |
| sledges | otherwise, you've seen the video of glacier effort ;) | 21:37 |
| sledges | pretty much the status | 21:37 |
| vgrade_ | yea, looks great | 21:37 |
| sledges | thanks | 21:37 |
| sledges | i hope after jolla is out, many will start using their n9/50 to play around here | 21:37 |
| sledges | ain't that right, Morpog_PC ;) | 21:38 |
| vgrade_ | yea and also seems to be a push to support SF on a range of current android devices | 21:38 |
| sledges | and afterwards - other devices and form factors via hybris | 21:38 |
| vgrade_ | :) | 21:39 |
| sledges | sf? | 21:39 |
| vgrade_ | sailfish | 21:39 |
| sledges | a | 21:39 |
| sledges | ;D | 21:39 |
| vgrade_ | you are in UK right? | 21:39 |
| sledges | yup | 21:39 |
| sledges | how was chicago? | 21:40 |
| sledges | is chilly and rainy here, but got not sleet yet 8) | 21:40 |
| vgrade_ | https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/london-c-meet-up-tickets-7979201005 | 21:41 |
| sledges | cpp? | 21:41 |
| sledges | right ;) | 21:41 |
| sledges | i'll be on my way to Cov im afraid this Friday ;) | 21:41 |
| vgrade_ | only passing through Chicago, was in Portland | 21:41 |
| sledges | yay, work? | 21:41 |
| vgrade_ | yes , http://newsroom.jaguarlandrover.com/en-in/jlr-corp/news/2013/11/JLR_Intel_Collaboration_201113/ | 21:42 |
| sledges | nice, your talk wouldve been interesting to hear | 21:42 |
| sledges | well done Jaguar | 21:42 |
| vgrade_ | Are you often in Cov, I'm at Gaydon work days | 21:42 |
| sledges | genivi centric? | 21:42 |
| sledges | im seldom workdays, but you never know | 21:43 |
| sledges | friday afternoon pub viable ;) | 21:43 |
| sledges | afternoon->evening | 21:43 |
| vgrade_ | more AGL / linux folundation focus, but JLR are also in genivi, The JLR guy who asked me to help out in Portland is genivi vice president | 21:44 |
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| sledges | I met him, Matt | 21:44 |
| vgrade_ | meeting could be arranged | 21:44 |
| sledges | very ambitious guys | 21:45 |
| sledges | *guy | 21:45 |
| vgrade_ | yes, that's him. | 21:45 |
| sledges | but always baffled me , he's vice in genivi, but jaguar's presence is minimal :) | 21:45 |
| vgrade_ | JLR puts a huge amount of money into genivi, AGL, linux foundation and the new OTSC in portland is a big investment in buildings, infra, people | 21:47 |
| sledges | niice | 21:52 |
| vgrade_ | gtg, get ready for flight boarding , catch up in the next couple of days | 21:52 |
| sledges | ive been to cov transport museum | 21:52 |
| sledges | amazing! | 21:52 |
| sledges | and the new jaguar concept | 21:52 |
| sledges | (zx75 iirc) | 21:52 |
| sledges | runs on gas turbines and electric motor! | 21:52 |
| sledges | vgrade_: speak to you later, nice to catch up! | 21:53 |
| vgrade_ | JLR I think own the land the heritage centre is built on so we get to use the conference facilities so gives us free access to the museaum | 21:54 |
| vgrade_ | bye | 21:54 |
| sledges | laters | 21:55 |
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| Morpog_PC | sure sledges, just those slow jolla guys stop me from flashing my N9 :) | 22:19 |
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| sledges | slow? they are launching ahead of schedule | 22:20 |
| sledges | is something unheard/unlike in hw product history ;) | 22:20 |
| Morpog_PC | well, just a few days :) | 22:22 |
| Morpog_PC | and it feels like I'm waiting for it since I bought my N9 ;) | 22:22 |
| sledges | yea, i know that feeling ;) | 22:23 |
| Morpog_PC | and thats over 2 years ago now.... almost ordered a Nexus 5 just to have something to play with :D | 22:23 |
| Morpog_PC | after all with libhybris it could boot Nemo someday | 22:23 |
| sledges | can imagine.. | 22:23 |
| sledges | oh yes | 22:24 |
| sledges | it will ;) | 22:24 |
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| Morpog_PC | I had some brainstorming how to get wallpaper fine on portrait and landscape without sacrificing much of original image, but couldn't find anything staisfying | 22:26 |
| Morpog_PC | at least not with same scaling | 22:26 |
| Morpog_PC | *satisfying | 22:27 |
| sledges | right | 22:27 |
| sledges | well | 22:27 |
| sledges | in landscape it could simply be "further away@ | 22:27 |
| sledges | if you catch my 'drift' ;) | 22:27 |
| Morpog_PC | yep | 22:27 |
| Morpog_PC | and less paralax scrolling | 22:27 |
| Morpog_PC | if we have that | 22:28 |
| sledges | ermz | 22:28 |
| sledges | paralax as in android? | 22:28 |
| Morpog_PC | yes | 22:29 |
| sledges | so ok | 22:29 |
| sledges | by saying, when in landscape 'further away' i actually meant 'less paralax scrolling' | 22:30 |
| Morpog_PC | having less paralax in landscape than in portrait helps there | 22:30 |
| Morpog_PC | android is doing that too | 22:30 |
| Morpog_PC | sledges, ah ok | 22:30 |
| sledges | android doesnt have landscape home | 22:31 |
| sledges | well, stock one doesnt ;) | 22:31 |
| sledges | so, and iead | 22:31 |
| sledges | idea: | 22:31 |
| Morpog_PC | erm, on tablets | 22:31 |
| Morpog_PC | it has | 22:31 |
| sledges | in portrait we do 1:1 as Hurrian's mockup | 22:31 |
| sledges | (no paralax, divide landscape wallpaper into 3 sections) | 22:32 |
| sledges | but in landscape it becomes paralax | 22:32 |
| sledges | with minimum scaling | 22:32 |
| sledges | (i.e., to minimise the scaling) | 22:32 |
| Morpog_PC | I thought about portrait paralax with 2 screens and on landscape 1,5 screens | 22:33 |
| Morpog_PC | but differently scaled on landscape | 22:33 |
| sledges | but if we do paralax everywhere, it would be to androidy..no? :/ | 22:34 |
| sledges | orig mockup didn't have | 22:34 |
| sledges | but need to see it all live ofc.. | 22:34 |
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| Morpog_PC | well, it would be kinda strange to have it only on landscape | 22:35 |
| Morpog_PC | feel strange | 22:36 |
| Morpog_PC | wouldn't it? | 22:36 |
| sledges | that's true too | 22:36 |
| sledges | but im sure we will create some innovative paralax (with accelerations or so :D) | 22:37 |
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