| ZogG_laptop | faenil_: is there new imgs btw? | 00:04 |
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| faenil_ | ZogG_laptop, not sure, haven't had time to look into it since I am here :/ | 00:04 |
| faenil_ | ZogG_laptop, but not much has been done recently unless I missed something | 00:05 |
| faenil_ | we're missing contributors | 00:05 |
| sledges | *contributors are busy :) | 00:08 |
| sledges | sfiet implemented progress spinner this week | 00:09 |
| sledges | im looking into configs' mess | 00:09 |
| ZogG_laptop | faenil_: i might have more time and i may try slowly learn here and there. but i need working img :P | 00:09 |
| sledges | ZogG_laptop: last torrent | 00:10 |
| sledges | afterwards zypper dup | 00:10 |
| sledges | is on wiki | 00:10 |
| faenil_ | ZogG_laptop, there are working imgs out ;) | 00:10 |
| faenil_ | well, *working* :D | 00:10 |
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| ZogG_laptop | sledges: the problem that latest img i had had no working terminal :) | 00:12 |
| ZogG_laptop | and no wifi connection set/possible to set | 00:12 |
| ZogG_laptop | so that's why i wanted "working" img :) | 00:12 |
| ZogG_laptop | not latest | 00:12 |
| ZogG_laptop | but working | 00:12 |
| faenil_ | ZogG_laptop, define working :) | 00:13 |
| sledges | wprked for me . which dated img? | 00:13 |
| faenil_ | those two things are working now | 00:13 |
| Morpog_Mobile | ZogG_laptop: then you need to wait a long time i guess | 00:13 |
| sledges | Morpog_Mobile: why? i can use wifi and fingerterm on n9 | 00:13 |
| sledges | also linux is about choice | 00:14 |
| sledges | no terminal, use ssh. no wifi? use connman-tests ;) | 00:15 |
| Morpog_Mobile | sledges: i define working as stable | 00:15 |
| sledges | and we are here to help | 00:15 |
| ZogG_laptop | sledges: all i need is to get to terminal | 00:15 |
| ZogG_laptop | with device or ssh | 00:15 |
| ZogG_laptop | doesn't matter | 00:15 |
| ZogG_laptop | and i do chose linux | 00:15 |
| ZogG_laptop | i have compiled funtoo img for n950 | 00:16 |
| faenil_ | ZogG_laptop, terminal works | 00:16 |
| ZogG_laptop | it's working | 00:16 |
| faenil_ | it's dead slow, but via ssh it's ok | 00:16 |
| ZogG_laptop | but i faield to get screen working there except updating it maunaly everytime :( | 00:16 |
| sledges | and if no choices work, shout here, we can haz fixes it :) | 00:17 |
| sledges | because Morpog_Mobile is right, current wip is unstable | 00:18 |
| faenil_ | :) | 00:18 |
| sledges | but waves are settling down after storm in middleware by youKnowWho ;) | 00:18 |
| ZogG_laptop | sledges: i asked to help me with display than but as it was not nemo i was pushed out and ignored | 00:19 |
| ZogG_laptop | i cried a lot at nights but i got over it :) | 00:19 |
| faenil_ | :D | 00:19 |
| faenil_ | ZogG_laptop, we have big troubles even getting nemo to run on n950, and you want to get something else :P | 00:19 |
| sledges | and tbh terminal breakage is fundamental, so im sure that got fixed soon after you tried that nonworking image ZogG_laptop | 00:19 |
| ZogG_laptop | faenil_: i had it running ( without X) | 00:20 |
| ZogG_laptop | all i wanted to get display | 00:20 |
| faenil_ | which I wouldn't know how to help with | 00:21 |
| sledges | gnite | 00:21 |
| ZogG_laptop | gnite | 00:21 |
| faenil_ | gnite people | 00:22 |
| sledges | (GNU/Nite) | 00:22 |
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| faenil_ | sledges, you're master of geeky witts | 00:22 |
| sledges | fingers cross(compile)d im not | 00:24 |
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| w00t | ZogG_laptop: you need something kicking the display ioctl at the right times | 00:59 |
| w00t | https://github.com/nemomobile/ti-omap3-sgx-wayland-wsegl/blob/master/wsegl/waylandwsegl.c#L653 | 01:00 |
| w00t | and fwiw, you weren't ignored, there is no conspiracy, your question likely got forgotten about or lost along the way to someone who has knowledge about the problem - there aren't many of them around, and those that are are busy and forgetful people | 01:02 |
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| stephg | morning everyone! | 06:51 |
| dm8tbr | good moaning | 06:52 |
| fk_lx | hello :-) | 06:57 |
| timoph | huomenta | 06:58 |
| JvD_ | hyvää huomenta | 07:02 |
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| sledges | hewwo :) | 07:05 |
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| zbenjamin | morning ! | 07:46 |
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| ZogG_laptop | zbenjamin: morning indeed | 08:18 |
| locusf | morning :) | 08:23 |
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| faenil | o/ | 08:38 |
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| sledges | w00t: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfVsfOSbJY0 | 09:56 |
| fk_lx | sledges: :-D | 09:57 |
| zbenjamin | sledges: omfg | 09:59 |
| zbenjamin | worst song in history | 10:00 |
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| sledges | zbenjamin: it has history in this channel zbenjamin ;P | 10:23 |
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| khertan | w00t sledges : i prefer this version : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVNgUd3qv_Y | 10:37 |
| khertan | more audible | 10:37 |
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| sledges | that's awesome khertan :D i'm into a cappella versions, need to look for one :)) | 10:49 |
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| Merbot | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#464 waiting for review at https://build.merproject.org//request/show/464 | 13:50 |
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| sledges | hey fellows, would be great if you could update: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Glacier | 16:05 |
| sledges | (copied and updated from https://github.com/qwazix/glacier-controls-spec/blob/master/UIComp_List.md , thanks to bitsandnumbers who did the initial list) | 16:05 |
| sledges | couldn't remember everything 100% correctly off the top of my head | 16:06 |
| locusf | nice, thanks sledges | 16:06 |
| sledges | so UIComp_List.md could now be just redirecting to wiki page (I'll PR qwazix if no-one gets ahead of that :)) | 16:06 |
| sledges | (just added the trumpet bit ;)) | 16:08 |
| sledges | laters! | 16:08 |
| Merbot | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#464 Rejected promotion request | 16:09 |
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| Merbot | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#465 waiting for review at https://build.merproject.org//request/show/465 | 16:18 |
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| Merbot | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#465 Accepted promotion request | 16:26 |
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| ZogG_laptop | Stskeeps: ping | 17:43 |
| ZogG_laptop | w00t: thanks for display tip. the other question is if it's possible to make X/Wayland independent? in other words can i get that working with out graphics and in tty? | 17:47 |
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| faenil | evening o/ | 18:43 |
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| faenil | thomas_sch, welcome ;) | 22:31 |
| thomas_sch | thx faenil ;) | 22:31 |
| faenil | so, are you looking for something in particular? | 22:32 |
| faenil | want to start contributing? or have any question? | 22:32 |
| thomas_sch | oh yeah I wanted to start again to play around with my phones.I wanted to switch from android and possibly update my good old n900 (would have to do some soldering first though) | 22:33 |
| faenil | ah, ehm...the new nemo (the wayland-based one) currently doesn't run on n900 as far as I know | 22:33 |
| faenil | as there is some work needed to adapt the wayland stuff to n900 | 22:33 |
| thomas_sch | I read about the sailfish os apk compatibility and was intrigued | 22:34 |
| faenil | yes well the apk story of sailfish is closedsource | 22:34 |
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| faenil | you won't find it in Nemo | 22:34 |
| thomas_sch | yeah guessed that already ;) that's why I joined the irc hoped I had overlooked something | 22:34 |
| thomas_sch | it's not the most important feature it was just interesting | 22:34 |
| faenil | thomas_sch, sure it is ;) | 22:35 |
| faenil | also Nemo is currently in transitioning state | 22:35 |
| faenil | we're building the new Glacier UI | 22:35 |
| thomas_sch | I want a phone not trash heap after all | 22:35 |
| faenil | thomas_sch, http://play.qwazix.com/grog/?p=344 | 22:35 |
| faenil | so there are many things not working at the moment while we rebuild everything | 22:36 |
| faenil | but if you want to contribute you're very welcome :) | 22:36 |
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| thomas_sch | faenil: I would first need to look at the code ;) or at least some documentation don't even know how portable it is right now :) | 22:40 |
| faenil | how portable in what sense | 22:40 |
| faenil | what do you want to port and where :D | 22:40 |
| thomas_sch | how easy it is to port it to device $foo found a howto for the nexus i9250 | 22:40 |
| faenil | thomas_sch, well it depends, if you want to port it to an android device you'll use libhybris | 22:41 |
| thomas_sch | let me first read up on some things don't want to talk nonsense (at least if it can be helped) | 22:41 |
| faenil | sure ;) | 22:41 |
| thomas_sch | niiice weston has libhybris support | 22:42 |
| thomas_sch | so I can basicly build it for every android phone (for that I can build my own images) | 22:43 |
| faenil | well, kind of, I'd advice to ask Stskeeps more details ;) he's probably sleeping now | 22:44 |
| faenil | he's the author of libhyris | 22:44 |
| thomas_sch | faenil: are you using nemo right now? :) | 22:47 |
| faenil | thomas_sch, if you want to know if nemo is ready for daily use, no ;) | 22:48 |
| faenil | as I said, it's under heave reconstruction after the transition to wayland | 22:48 |
| faenil | if you want something kind of usable you can try the images from June, which were x11-based | 22:49 |
| faenil | and most of the stuff was working :) | 22:49 |
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| thomas_sch | I just wanted ton w know on what hardware you used it :P because I got some low end phones with gingerbread on them and wanted to estimate if it would be profitable for me to start working on this old devices again | 22:50 |
| thomas_sch | If I get a better user experience out of nemo I would gladly sacrifice my old android phones and it's app store :P | 22:51 |
| faenil | thomas_sch, I use it on nokia n950 dev phone | 22:51 |
| faenil | thomas_sch, it will be months before nemo becomes usable again though | 22:51 |
| faenil | we have to write UI components (started already) | 22:52 |
| faenil | then rewrite all core apps with those components | 22:52 |
| thomas_sch | I guessed that much ;) but I got time if it becomes useable at the same time when wayland is useable on any desktop pc it's ok with me | 22:52 |
| faenil | then rewrite the homescreen | 22:52 |
| thomas_sch | it's a mobile device it's for the best to exchange X with wayland | 22:52 |
| faenil | write all the UI plugins for signal indicator, battery indicator, wifi indicator, etc | 22:52 |
| faenil | thomas_sch, ;) | 22:53 |
| faenil | ok | 22:53 |
| faenil | about how easy it is to port to gingerbread phones, I suggest to ask that guy | 22:53 |
| thomas_sch | I got ics running on it ;) | 22:54 |
| thomas_sch | jelly bean was too bloated though | 22:54 |
| faenil | :) | 22:54 |
| faenil | yeah well it's not exactly the same process :D | 22:54 |
| thomas_sch | I was going to try kitkat next (I mean low end phone could work..) but if nemo is good I will try this | 22:54 |
| faenil | sure, it's good to have somebody hacking on that ;) | 22:55 |
| faenil | please try again tomorrow ;) | 22:55 |
| thomas_sch | I'm willing to put some hours and coding in it | 22:55 |
| faenil | not sure some hours will be enough, but yeah, if you're very lucky :D | 22:55 |
| faenil | otherwise there's lot of help needed with the new UI effort ;) | 22:56 |
| thomas_sch | tomorrow I will be out of town and mainly working on my day job but the day after tomorrow I have all the time in the world | 22:56 |
| thomas_sch | ohh I'm not really that big on guis | 22:56 |
| faenil | ok good ;) | 22:56 |
| thomas_sch | also I'm willing to learn ;) but hey right now I got much work, little time | 22:57 |
| faenil | :) | 22:57 |
| thomas_sch | ok it's decided I will get my soldering iron :D brb fixing my n900 | 22:57 |
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| thomas_sch | (usb connector broke off of the mother board) | 22:58 |
| thomas_sch | will have to use the debug port | 22:58 |
| faenil | eh | 22:59 |
| faenil | same problem everywhere :D | 22:59 |
| thomas_sch | really?that's soo sad | 22:59 |
| faenil | yeah iirc | 22:59 |
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| thomas_sch | I just hope the battery didn't die on me in two years :/ | 23:01 |
| faenil | :D | 23:01 |
| faenil | thomas_sch, this is pretty much the current situation | 23:02 |
| faenil | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Js9BePSwPKs | 23:02 |
| faenil | (in the meanwhile icons were changed, and lots of other stuff | 23:02 |
| faenil | but still using old UI as you can see | 23:03 |
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| thomas_sch | omg you can get a n900 for 70 bucks from ebay oO | 23:43 |
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