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| sledges | morni | 07:46 |
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| faenil | o/ | 09:34 |
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| Morpog_N9____ | congrats faenil | 10:52 |
| faenil | Morpog_N9____, thanks :) | 10:53 |
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| Morpog_N9____ | homeoffice? | 10:53 |
| Stskeeps | handcuffed to a desk in tampere | 10:53 |
| Morpog_N9____ | hehe :D | 10:54 |
| Morpog_N9____ | just like all sailors I guess ;) | 10:54 |
| Stskeeps | that's why i work from home, just a remote activateable bomb attached to my leg.. | 10:54 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:54 |
| faenil | Morpog_N9____, yeah, they don't let me go! | 10:56 |
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| faenil | can't eat, can't breathe, can't watch out of the window! | 10:56 |
| faenil | jokes apart, it's awesome :D | 10:56 |
| sledges | i knew something fishy was going on :D | 10:58 |
| sledges | congrats man \\o// you did it! | 10:58 |
| sledges | true dream come true :) | 10:59 |
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| Morpog_N9____ | sledges, it's internship | 10:59 |
| faenil | sledges, yeah :D well it's internship, got to go back to uni after that :( | 10:59 |
| faenil | but still :D | 10:59 |
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| sledges | whatever you can get :DD | 11:00 |
| sledges | you know what happens if you do well during intern ;) | 11:00 |
| faenil | :) | 11:00 |
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| sledges | so you moved to .fi?? | 11:07 |
| sledges | a big move that was ;) | 11:07 |
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| sledges | faenil "Nemo trojan horse" mission accomplished :D | 11:36 |
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| faenil | sledges, \o/ | 12:30 |
| faenil | sledges, yep I'm in Tampere ;) | 12:30 |
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| Hurrian | happy sailing, faenil! | 12:40 |
| faenil | Hurrian, thank you :) | 12:40 |
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| sandy_locke | hi peops | 16:39 |
| sandy_locke | if someone there: I had to flash and reinstall my n9, and when I install apps all apps crash when process is done | 16:40 |
| sandy_locke | meaning I can't install more than one app at once^^ | 16:40 |
| sandy_locke | I'm talking harmattan here, just wondered if s/o went across a similar issue and has a solution :/ | 16:40 |
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| sledges | sandy_locke: you can ask in #harmattan | 16:51 |
| sandy_locke | arf, thx sledges . Somehow I hoped the answer would be here ;) | 16:52 |
| sledges | my harmattan install is in a dire state :D trying to stay away :)) | 16:52 |
| sledges | didn't really get your question. why are you bulk-installing apps in the first place? | 16:52 |
| sandy_locke | I wanted to reinstall the system ui packages for the quick access menu | 16:53 |
| sledges | humm i guess it's some mod i've never used | 16:53 |
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| sandy_locke | it's a bunch of script that install some packages in the process | 16:53 |
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| sledges | humm | 16:54 |
| sledges | copy the script to your PC | 16:54 |
| sandy_locke | but the real issue is that *any* app I install then crashes all other apps ^^ | 16:54 |
| sledges | add sleep 5 between all calls ;) | 16:54 |
| sledges | hmmmmmmm | 16:54 |
| sledges | you mean | 16:54 |
| sledges | installing (with dpkg -i) | 16:54 |
| sledges | or apt-get install | 16:54 |
| sledges | causes other apps to crash? | 16:54 |
| sledges | (running innocent apps?) | 16:54 |
| sandy_locke | or simply installing from the store | 16:54 |
| sledges | ok | 16:55 |
| sledges | weird | 16:55 |
| sandy_locke | *any* kind of install, for *any* app | 16:55 |
| sledges | and that script triggers the same thing too? | 16:55 |
| sandy_locke | the scripts use dpkg or apt-get, both | 16:55 |
| sledges | tried installing an app yourself? | 16:56 |
| sledges | what does it error out with? | 16:56 |
| sandy_locke | I wonder if it's not when aegis is called | 16:56 |
| sledges | or just kill other apps silently? | 16:56 |
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| sledges | ah ofc | 16:56 |
| sledges | aegis | 16:56 |
| sledges | :D | 16:56 |
| sledges | the answer to all problems : | 16:56 |
| sledges | :D | 16:56 |
| sandy_locke | ;) | 16:56 |
| sledges | the craziest is that it fails after fresh reflash :| | 16:56 |
| sledges | are you in open mode? | 16:56 |
| sandy_locke | I have installed openmode, so maybe I did something wrong in the process and now aegis behave oddly | 16:56 |
| sledges | if so, maybe you forgot to delete ~/.aegis and stuff | 16:57 |
| sledges | ^ ;) | 16:57 |
| sandy_locke | mmmhn didn't know about that | 16:57 |
| sandy_locke | just ~/.aegis ? | 16:57 |
| sledges | http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1326771&postcount=372 | 16:57 |
| sledges | also http://wiki.maemo.org/Ubiboot#When_Not_Starting_From_A_Fresh_Flash | 16:58 |
| sandy_locke | (for info sledges, I went back to my n9 today to look at this : http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=91743) | 16:58 |
| sledges | ;) yea i heard the hype :) | 16:58 |
| sledges | quite nice! | 16:58 |
| sandy_locke | yup, freshen up things ;) | 16:59 |
| sandy_locke | thx for the link, I'm on it then | 16:59 |
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| sandy_locke | ok, rebooting, will see if it worked ^^ | 17:02 |
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| sledges | g_luck | 17:06 |
| sandy_locke | doesn't seem to work :/ | 17:08 |
| sledges | #harmattan | 17:10 |
| sledges | :) | 17:10 |
| sandy_locke | yup, trying again with install of meecast, but not very confident | 17:11 |
| sandy_locke | I'll go there if it crashes again... | 17:11 |
| sandy_locke | I did repair it once, I already had the issue | 17:12 |
| sandy_locke | dunno how I did though | 17:12 |
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| sledges | or just kill other apps silently? | 17:16 |
| sledges | what does it error out with? | 17:16 |
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| sandy_locke | sledges: no errors, apps are just killed | 17:34 |
| sandy_locke | I think I'll do a full erase again and reinstall openmode kernel from scratch | 17:35 |
| sandy_locke | but I'm afraid I'll end up with exactly the same issues | 17:35 |
| sandy_locke | nobody on #harmattan | 17:36 |
| sledges | yes | 17:36 |
| sandy_locke | btw | 17:36 |
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| sandy_locke | sledges: have you a good multiboot option for nemo/harmattan ? | 17:36 |
| sledges | patience is bliss :)) | 17:36 |
| sledges | friday eve ;) | 17:36 |
| sledges | ubiboot | 17:36 |
| sledges | the link i gave you | 17:37 |
| sledges | it takes through reflashing and dealing with openmode | 17:37 |
| sledges | worth a go this friday night i guess :) | 17:37 |
| sandy_locke | lol | 17:37 |
| sandy_locke | yeah, I'll give it a try I think :) | 17:37 |
| sandy_locke | thx I didn't notice the link | 17:37 |
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| sledges | the link was about rm .aegjs | 17:38 |
| sledges | but now just start to the top | 17:38 |
| sledges | :) | 17:38 |
| sandy_locke | I just noticed the maemo talk link | 17:39 |
| sandy_locke | not the one below ;) | 17:39 |
| sledges | aok :) | 17:39 |
| sandy_locke | sledges: can I boot 5 OS's with it ??? | 17:41 |
| sandy_locke | if yes I'm tempted to install the whole bunch ! | 17:41 |
| sledges | o ya | 17:41 |
| sledges | :)) | 17:41 |
| sandy_locke | sweet :D | 17:41 |
| sledges | i dont think n9's 5os ready, but it will be | 17:42 |
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| sandy_locke | hey peops, a good way to check n9 partitions for errors ? | 20:18 |
| sandy_locke | Moslo won't create the Alt_OS partition... | 20:19 |
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| sledges | sandy_locke: here we go again :D | 22:50 |
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| sandy_locke | sledges: :P | 23:04 |
| sledges | you can telnet into moslo | 23:05 |
| sledges | and do fdisk /dev/mmcblk0 | 23:05 |
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| sandy_locke | yeah, but telnet never work for me. I tried | 23:12 |
| sledges | the just reboot to harmattan | 23:13 |
| sandy_locke | plus I already murdered the mmc partition by forcing a fsck while in harmattan | 23:13 |
| sandy_locke | so I erased everything... again ;) | 23:13 |
| sledges | thats ok | 23:13 |
| sledges | which partition though | 23:13 |
| sledges | :D | 23:14 |
| sandy_locke | dunno something with mmc and a 2 in it :P | 23:14 |
| sandy_locke | reboot loop afterward ^^ | 23:15 |
| sandy_locke | anyway, I won't do it tonight, but I'll restart the whole process tomorrow, maybe while being helped with someone here brave enough ;) | 23:16 |
| sledges | i dont know whom you are talking about :D | 23:16 |
| sandy_locke | the thing is that it seems that my MyDoc partition won't let itself divided by MOSLO | 23:17 |
| sledges | it just shrinks it | 23:17 |
| sandy_locke | yeah, well it won't do it | 23:17 |
| sledges | hmph | 23:17 |
| sledges | fresh flash? | 23:17 |
| sandy_locke | (man I sound so much like a noob, right ? :P) | 23:17 |
| sandy_locke | yeah, after fresh zeorize | 23:18 |
| sandy_locke | I'll try again with the (again) new fresh flash from 2 hours ago | 23:19 |
| sandy_locke | I let it cool to not knock my head against the walls tonight ;) | 23:19 |
| sledges | this MOSLO bug is making every brave soul feel like a noob | 23:21 |
| sandy_locke | good news is: I can restart the process any time if I don't deviate from the howto's | 23:21 |
| sandy_locke | yeah, would be good for MOSLO to just fsck partitions beforehand | 23:21 |
| sandy_locke | it can do it with the right tools since it doesn"t load any system stuffs | 23:22 |
| sandy_locke | you know who's in charge of MOSLO ? Maybe we could ask him | 23:22 |
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| sledges | aard_? | 23:28 |
| sledges | i had some indepth encounters with moslo too | 23:29 |
| sledges | you think no fscks prevent shrinking a partition | 23:29 |
| sledges | ? | 23:30 |
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| sledges | because from most common MOSLO autopartition error I came across in this channel is MyDocs successfully shrunk, but the nemo partition not created in the new space | 23:36 |
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| sandy_locke | mmmh | 23:40 |
| sandy_locke | I didn't check if the partition shrunk | 23:40 |
| sandy_locke | the time I checked my MyDocs partition had a starting and ending blocks mismatch | 23:41 |
| sandy_locke | this time I was sure the partition didn't shrink | 23:41 |
| sandy_locke | but this last time I didn't check | 23:42 |
| sledges | mismatch as in "does not end on the cyllinger boundary" warning? | 23:42 |
| sandy_locke | no, more as 'not the same as in the partition table' | 23:42 |
| sledges | the partition itself is as it is defined in partition table | 23:43 |
| sandy_locke | I messed up something when I installed a multi boot called Backup Menu | 23:43 |
| sledges | unless its size reported incorrectly, there's no other place to check boundaries as the partition table itself | 23:43 |
| sledges | ah ok | 23:43 |
| sledges | so you didn't go ubiboot way ;P | 23:43 |
| sandy_locke | no no, I mean the first time I tried to install Nemo | 23:44 |
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| sandy_locke | I'm at my third time ;) | 23:44 |
| sandy_locke | Right now I go ubiboot :) | 23:44 |
| sledges | well good :)) | 23:44 |
| sandy_locke | well, anyway, when I installed BackupMenu, it must have shrunk the partition incorrectly because the partitions were untouchable | 23:47 |
| sandy_locke | always errors | 23:47 |
| sandy_locke | and I fairly believe that a fsck could have fixed it | 23:47 |
| sandy_locke | but this time, I don't know what happened, I don't know how I could have known | 23:48 |
| sandy_locke | mmmh wait | 23:49 |
| sandy_locke | wait wait | 23:49 |
| sandy_locke | it wasn't like that | 23:49 |
| sandy_locke | partitions were good before moslo | 23:49 |
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| sandy_locke | but then I think that when MOSLO shrunk the partition, in the end MyDocs was divided in three partitions | 23:50 |
| sandy_locke | (AltOS, MyDocs and BackupMenu which has its own mini 'OS') | 23:50 |
| sledges | ah | 23:51 |
| sandy_locke | that what made MOSLO crazy | 23:51 |
| sledges | well | 23:51 |
| sledges | if backupmenu repartitions | 23:51 |
| sledges | then yes | 23:51 |
| sandy_locke | Could it be that it could not handle three partitions, messing with it's logic ? | 23:51 |
| sledges | yes | 23:51 |
| sandy_locke | then that was it | 23:51 |
| sledges | anyway | 23:52 |
| sledges | now i refreshed my memory | 23:52 |
| sledges | initially there are 3 partitions | 23:52 |
| sledges | Mydocs, user and rootfs | 23:52 |
| sledges | moslo shrinks the user one | 23:53 |
| sandy_locke | yes | 23:53 |
| sandy_locke | and backup menu too | 23:53 |
| sandy_locke | so there's something with logic and extended partitions or do I dream ? | 23:54 |
| sandy_locke | 4 logic is max no ? | 23:54 |
| sandy_locke | do you think I could install MOSLO first in the process of the howto you gave me (installing ubiboot) ? | 23:55 |
| sandy_locke | to see if it shrinks and then follow the howto, saving time | 23:55 |
| sledges | if moslo sees 4th partition | 23:55 |
| sledges | it immediately thinks it's nemo | 23:56 |
| sledges | then it does some checks on it, and bails out i believe | 23:56 |
| sledges | so backupmenu and moslo are incompatible :{ | 23:56 |
| sandy_locke | mmh ok | 23:56 |
| sledges | the process of ubiboot is correct because it does not create other partitions | 23:57 |
| sandy_locke | pretty logic actually, or you could end up with a new partition each time you launch MOSLO^^ | 23:57 |
| sledges | so moslo can do its job at anytime of that howto | 23:57 |
| sandy_locke | nice | 23:57 |
| sledges | yes, but moslo could be smartified | 23:57 |
| sandy_locke | then I'll install MOSLO first | 23:58 |
| sledges | although that's not worth the n9 effort in this day and age | 23:58 |
| sledges | first install open mode | 23:58 |
| sandy_locke | yeah it could | 23:58 |
| sandy_locke | ok | 23:58 |
| sledges | via the howto | 23:58 |
| sandy_locke | open mode already installed | 23:58 |
| sledges | and aegis removed? | 23:58 |
| sledges | etc | 23:58 |
| sandy_locke | I did it just after the zeroize | 23:58 |
| sledges | good | 23:59 |
| sledges | and disabled the warranty screen? ;) lucky you, im still to do that during next reflash | 23:59 |
| sandy_locke | I don't think you need to remove the aegis stuffs when you zeroize, do you ? | 23:59 |
| sledges | then you can go moslo | 23:59 |
| sledges | i don't know that | 23:59 |
| sandy_locke | yeah, warranty screen removed | 23:59 |
| sledges | see if your apps don't bomb away when you're instsalling them next time ;) | 23:59 |
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