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| artemma | never mind, found. And it looks like multi-packages are now fine with Sailfish SDK (Creator's editor doesn't show them, but doesn't corrupt as well!!) | 00:20 |
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| artemma | in .yaml %{name} seems to refer to the name of the main package always | 00:29 |
| artemma | is there a way to refer to sub package name? | 00:29 |
| artemma | I'd like to use it in Files section to deploy e.g. files of the subpackage-specific folder | 00:30 |
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| cybette | faenil: cat eyes don't work on me. maybe puppy eyes. but you're forgiven this time ;) | 01:09 |
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| dm8tbr | locusf: need a mirror? | 05:33 |
| locusf | dm8tbr: yes | 05:39 |
| dm8tbr | k. I don't have the files though, so you'd need to push them. | 05:39 |
| dm8tbr | I guess jolla does not majorly object to those? | 05:39 |
| locusf | afaik no | 05:40 |
| dm8tbr | k. you can anonymous ftp the files to ftp://bfst.de/incoming/ | 05:41 |
| dm8tbr | note, this is a write only directory, so no resume etc. | 05:41 |
| locusf | ok | 05:41 |
| locusf | thanks a ton :) | 05:42 |
| dm8tbr | np | 05:42 |
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| dm8tbr | if you expect to update images from time to time, I'll set you up with an account on images.formeego.org (once I'm awake) | 05:44 |
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| locusf | nice, that'd be awesome :) | 05:46 |
| dm8tbr | poke me later today and I'll send you account details | 05:47 |
| locusf | okay | 05:47 |
| dm8tbr | http://images.formeego.org/n950/sailfish-sdk/ is ready and I just need to copy the images from the ftp server, poke me once you're done uploading | 05:47 |
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| locusf | eta 14m | 05:48 |
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| locusf | I accidentally put the vdi for x86 vm | 05:53 |
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| dm8tbr | :) | 05:54 |
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| locusf | hmm I got it interrupted | 06:07 |
| locusf | nemo wayland image is now uploaded | 06:07 |
| locusf | filename is nemo-n950-rnd-20131026.tar.bz2 | 06:10 |
| dm8tbr | d781b300bb7d2b511741e31cfb2fc096 nemo-n950-rnd-20131026.tar.bz2 | 06:11 |
| dm8tbr | files are now on the webserver | 06:15 |
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| locusf | match | 06:37 |
| locusf | thanks | 06:37 |
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| niqt | morning | 07:54 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | morning niqt | 08:04 |
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| sledges | moorn! | 08:10 |
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| faenil | o/ | 08:14 |
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| stephg | locusf: I see your blogpost has made the interwebs | 08:18 |
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| faenil | Stskeeps, any advice re Fedora 20 with wayland gnome? | 08:27 |
| fk_lx | faenil: quick question, is Fedora 20 stable already? | 08:29 |
| faenil | fk_lx, nope, beta should be released on 12/11 | 08:29 |
| faenil | 12 nov | 08:29 |
| fk_lx | just asking, I'm using Fedora 19 | 08:29 |
| faenil | me too | 08:29 |
| faenil | was considering trying out wayland on fedora20 :) | 08:29 |
| fk_lx | ah ok | 08:30 |
| faenil | but not sure common apps would actually run as wayland clients, or through xwayland | 08:30 |
| stephg | doesn't that depend on just how advanced the Gnome tech preview is? | 08:30 |
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| faenil | stephg, well, if the app has x11 specific components there's not much you can do | 08:33 |
| faenil | except running it through xwayland, afaik | 08:33 |
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| stephg | ah, wasn't thinking of it that way round | 08:47 |
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| Netweaver | all: what's a commandline command to switch on the screen backlight in Nemo on N900? Since a few weeks the logic to switch the screen backlight on, is working less and less and now most of the time it's off :( | 09:35 |
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| Stskeeps | mcetool perhaps | 09:36 |
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| Netweaver | stskeeps: thanks, google+ your hint made my screen light up again : mcetool -Don (as I'm on charging cable anyway) | 09:43 |
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| sledges | Netweaver: try echo 128 > /sys/class/backlight/display0/brightness | 10:38 |
| Netweaver | all: the latest mcetool version currently in RND/DEV for N900 (as part of mce-tools version 1.20.1-44.1) doesn't contain the --demo-mode option commandline option, while that one is already for some time in the sources. How is that possible? And what more are we missing? | 10:39 |
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| spiiroin | Netweaver: what version does "mcetool -V" report? | 10:41 |
| spiiroin | btw, it should be "--set-demo-mode", not "--demo-mode" | 10:42 |
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| Netweaver | spirroin: 1.20.1 | 10:54 |
| sledges | Netweaver: -D is the shorthand for the demo-mode switch | 10:54 |
| sledges | and you said it worked for you | 10:54 |
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| Netweaver | sledges, spiiroin: indeed, I mistype the long command version. the -D version worked somehow before (I got light), but only till the next inactivity time-out occured. So I looked in the repository and manually installed the last version. and it seems it's fully working now, screen stays always on, as expected. strange 'zypper dup' didn't update mce and mce-tools. Or it was just a quick of being on RND/DEV. All solved now, happy camper. Thanks | 10:59 |
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| locusf | could someone merge this https://github.com/nemomobile-packages/maliit-plugins/pull/1 , please? | 11:44 |
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| Sage | o/ | 12:30 |
| Sage | sledges: releases.nemomobile.org should be fine for releasing yes. | 12:31 |
| faenil | Sage, o/ | 12:31 |
| Sage | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Creating_Releases <- instructions are there or should be mostly there. Just would need someone to give someone permissions to start doing those again :) | 12:32 |
| Sage | anyone interested of taking the responsibility over those? | 12:32 |
| locusf | I could do that :) | 12:34 |
| stephg | cool :) | 12:34 |
| Sage | I haven't done that in a while as everyone knows so there might be infra changes also done regarding that so need to sync with lbt regarding that | 12:36 |
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| lbt | yup | 13:00 |
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| sledges | Sage: brilliant, lbt. Many thanks locusf | 13:08 |
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| sledges | Sage: how's life? :) | 13:13 |
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| Sage | sledges: busy :) | 13:39 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | morning sledges o/ | 13:46 |
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| sledges | Sage: we're with you, one day it will ease :) | 14:03 |
| sledges | (very late) morning Sfiet_Konstantin :) | 14:03 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sledges: :) | 14:03 |
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| alterego | "Are you presenting confidently?" what a weird email subject. | 14:22 |
| Stskeeps | suit up? | 14:24 |
| alterego | Heh, | 14:24 |
| alterego | I thought it might be "presenting" in the reproductive sense. | 14:24 |
| alterego | I've probably been watching too many wildlife documentaries. | 14:27 |
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| Eztran | alterego: that makes it sound like Viagra spam. | 15:03 |
| alterego | Well, whatever it is, I'm not buying :) | 15:07 |
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| locusf | sledges: lets seed timoph's image too, see magnet:?xt=urn:btih:GEEE32K66P7U7PBWD5RJYQ2E4PDVI7CU&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3A80%2Fannounce | 17:51 |
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| sledges | someone in argentina already has ;) | 18:23 |
| locusf | yeah, someone from twitter :) | 18:24 |
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| sledges | wiki updated | 18:33 |
| locusf | thanks | 18:33 |
| locusf | finally a working magnet link | 18:33 |
| sledges | i had to dig out VM magnet link too ;) | 18:33 |
| sledges | should work as well | 18:33 |
| locusf | excellent | 18:34 |
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| Morpog_PC | sledges, ping | 18:49 |
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| Morpog_PC | anyone got a an Idea which package sets gconf keys for lockscreen wallpaper? | 19:01 |
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| sledges | Morpog_PC: ce-mtf used to do that | 19:39 |
| Morpog_PC | mmmh oh no, not one of these :) | 19:40 |
| Morpog_PC | any harm setting it in glacier theme? | 19:40 |
| sledges | no harm | 19:42 |
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| Morpog_PC | hmm, darko is set there as theme too | 19:43 |
| sledges | as it sets default theme | 19:43 |
| sledges | so can do the wallpaper too | 19:43 |
| Morpog_PC | yep, sounds sane | 19:43 |
| sledges | but needs a check if wallpaper hasnt been already set | 19:43 |
| sledges | also | 19:43 |
| sledges | i got an idea about backgrounds and lockscreen | 19:44 |
| Morpog_PC | I just tried the Image without cache, still needs a reboot | 19:44 |
| sledges | how about lockscreen having unblurred wallpaper | 19:44 |
| sledges | and when unlock, it reveals blurred wallpaper and icons etc | 19:44 |
| sledges | as if it was a magnifying lense of sorts (glass) | 19:45 |
| Morpog_PC | hmmmm | 19:45 |
| Morpog_PC | so live bluring? | 19:45 |
| sledges | no | 19:45 |
| sledges | just a trick | 19:45 |
| sledges | two versions | 19:46 |
| Morpog_PC | and reducing opacity | 19:46 |
| sledges | no | 19:46 |
| sledges | unlock swipes away | 19:46 |
| sledges | but during animation offset of wallpaper is changed | 19:47 |
| sledges | so it looks like glass is swiped aeay | 19:47 |
| Morpog_PC | aaah could look great | 19:47 |
| sledges | revealing blurred wallpaper and rest of cobtents undernrath | 19:47 |
| sledges | but also needs lots of math | 19:47 |
| sledges | (oruentation, and the fact that wallpaper spans several screens horizontslly) | 19:48 |
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| Morpog_PC | sledges, why does it need to have a check if wallpaper key is already set? | 19:54 |
| Morpog_PC | because that will be always true | 19:54 |
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| sledges | bbl | 20:00 |
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| Morpog_PC | sledges: http://pastie.org/8455317 | 20:10 |
| Morpog_PC | from 49 to 60 | 20:10 |
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| sledges | Morpog_PC: in the new images also? what sets it? | 22:14 |
| sledges | ce-mtf is no longer in patterns in latest images | 22:15 |
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| Morpog_PC | hmm, dunno, new VM image didn't work here | 22:16 |
| Morpog_PC | sledges, | 22:16 |
| sledges | hmmm some old themes might set it too | 22:16 |
| sledges | need to hunt down :D | 22:17 |
| sledges | but | 22:17 |
| Morpog_PC | but? | 22:18 |
| sledges | since glacier overwrites theme | 22:19 |
| sledges | it should overwrite wallpaper too | 22:20 |
| sledges | but | 22:20 |
| sledges | why isnt wallpaper provided via theme daemon? | 22:20 |
| sledges | (btw your paste still points to darko walpap;)) | 22:20 |
| sledges | what if | 22:20 |
| sledges | webset gconf keys | 22:20 |
| sledges | to | 22:20 |
| sledges | theme://icons/wallpaper-landscape | 22:21 |
| sledges | etc? | 22:21 |
| Morpog_PC | oops true, lol | 22:21 |
| Morpog_PC | sledges, because it's file:// atm in colorful | 22:21 |
| sledges | yeap | 22:22 |
| sledges | so why not make everything proper from the beginning :) | 22:22 |
| Morpog_PC | whats the benefit providing it via theme provider? | 22:22 |
| sledges | you win inheritance for free | 22:22 |
| Morpog_PC | any why doesn't jolla do it that way? | 22:23 |
| sledges | and dont stick to file format | 22:23 |
| sledges | it can be jpeg or png | 22:23 |
| sledges | dont know about jolla, but we definitely have all time in thr world to get it right ;) | 22:24 |
| sledges | rather than get it done | 22:25 |
| M4rtinK | BTW, good job on the Wayland image ! :) | 22:26 |
| sledges | M4rtinK: cheers to faenil for that :) | 22:26 |
| M4rtinK | seems to run fine & it was nice to show people some device actually running on Wayland :) | 22:26 |
| sledges | \o/ | 22:26 |
| M4rtinK | also got positive comments about input lag | 22:27 |
| sledges | positive about lag? :) | 22:27 |
| M4rtinK | reportedly it should be much better than on Android | 22:27 |
| Morpog_PC | ok sledges, so I try that way: | 22:28 |
| Morpog_PC | source: "image://theme/" + wallpaperSource.value | 22:28 |
| M4rtinK | from one of the people I've trying it out on the conference | 22:28 |
| M4rtinK | *people who were trying it out | 22:28 |
| sledges | M4rtinK: more specifically? input lag :) | 22:29 |
| M4rtinK | of course there were those rotation issues, but we actually never managed to make it crash or get to an unusable state | 22:30 |
| M4rtinK | sledges: the guy mentioned that in comparison to Android, it exhibits a much lower input lag when panning stuff | 22:30 |
| Morpog_PC | on N9 M4rtinK? | 22:30 |
| M4rtinK | he had some Android phablet and there it was indeed quite horrendous | 22:31 |
| M4rtinK | N950 | 22:31 |
| sledges | android on n9? | 22:31 |
| Morpog_PC | I wonder because it looked horrible slow on youtube videos | 22:31 |
| sledges | lol ok | 22:31 |
| M4rtinK | OK, again :) | 22:31 |
| M4rtinK | he had an Android phablet | 22:31 |
| M4rtinK | and played with the N950 for a while | 22:31 |
| M4rtinK | and then commented that it has much lower input lag than his Android thingie | 22:32 |
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| sledges | M4rtinK: ok got you, i did not see Morpog_PC question when i wrote mine about n9 :D (backscroll in this tiny mobile terminal;)) | 22:32 |
| M4rtinK | so a totally unscientific but positive comment :) | 22:32 |
| sledges | Morpog_PC: how about giving freedom and setting image://theme/wallpaper-landscape in the spec? | 22:33 |
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| M4rtinK | BTW, UX being landscape locked and most apps portrait locked is a known issue I expect ? :) | 22:34 |
| M4rtinK | also no status bar or info about battery state ? :) | 22:34 |
| M4rtinK | just checking if I missed something following the install guide | 22:35 |
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| alterego | M4rtinK: no, that's what most of us see :) | 22:35 |
| M4rtinK | alterego: ok, good to know that :) | 22:35 |
| Morpog_PC | sledges, sounds like a good idea | 22:35 |
| M4rtinK | well, as long as one can run zypper, the image is fine :) | 22:36 |
| Morpog_PC | M4rtinK, there are some patches that fixes rotation, etc, but not merged yet | 22:36 |
| Morpog_PC | statusbar needs to be fixed | 22:36 |
| sledges | Morpog_PC: also good for developing and quick prototyping | 22:37 |
| Morpog_PC | I try if that works | 22:37 |
| M4rtinK | sure, no problem :) | 22:39 |
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| Morpog_PC | sledges, works fine | 22:39 |
| sledges | and if we are going for android style wallpaper (for the glass blur lock idea), then we dont need two wallpapers for orientations : http://i2.wp.com/hussam.eu.org/images/jb-set-wallpaper.png | 22:40 |
| sledges | (i.e. the panning background) | 22:40 |
| Morpog_PC | I like and dislike that aproach | 22:40 |
| Morpog_PC | you never can set an image totally as wallpaper | 22:41 |
| sledges | +1 | 22:41 |
| sledges | probably wrong example | 22:42 |
| sledges | i got a vision how whole image can be used | 22:42 |
| sledges | will sketch something together | 22:42 |
| Morpog_PC | lol 3rd time I rebased that PR :) | 22:45 |
| sledges | the only drawback, is that swiping away a sharpening glass, would reveal blurred background behind with icons or other homescreens is counterintuitive | 22:45 |
| sledges | youd expect the lock screen 'glass' to be blurring instead and not sharpening :)) | 22:46 |
| Morpog_PC | which one would you set as default wallpaper? bubbles or lines? | 22:47 |
| Morpog_PC | http://abload.de/img/nemomobile-glacier-loxmsel.png | 22:47 |
| sledges | but thats how it is looking into Hurrian's mockup on grog (sharpening glass) | 22:47 |
| sledges | bubbles | 22:47 |
| sledges | ;D | 22:47 |
| Morpog_PC | OK :) | 22:47 |
| Morpog_PC | I kinda like lines too | 22:47 |
| sledges | why not the flower? ;) | 22:47 |
| Hurrian | no, actually, you'd pull the blurred glass over the lockscreen | 22:48 |
| sledges | Hurrian: interesting PoV :) | 22:49 |
| sledges | kind of "lets swipe the homescreen back, at the point where we left it of" | 22:49 |
| Morpog_PC | sledges, because I don't have it in the right resolution :) | 22:51 |
| sledges | from psd? | 22:51 |
| Morpog_PC | Also that bubbles wallpaper I've made in SVG, so it would work also on bigger resolutions | 22:51 |
| Morpog_PC | sledges, in that PSD hurrian didn't use 854x480 | 22:52 |
| sledges | true.. we need super hires flower :D | 22:52 |
| sledges | missing some pixels? | 22:52 |
| Morpog_PC | yes | 22:52 |
| sledges | Hurrian: where is flower from? | 22:53 |
| Hurrian | took the picture on my N9, linking you to it... | 22:53 |
| sledges | is it yours? as reverse image search doesnt return anything :D | 22:53 |
| fk_lx | Morpog_PC: bubbles | 22:53 |
| Morpog_PC | 848x480 sledges | 22:53 |
| Hurrian | https://www.dropbox.com/s/rad61d7vl92i37w/2013-07-04%2011.03.57.jpg | 22:53 |
| sledges | nice ;) | 22:53 |
| Morpog_PC | fk_lx, hehe, seems everyone loves the bubbles | 22:53 |
| sledges | Morpog_PC: ^ ;) | 22:55 |
| sledges | thanks Hurrian ! | 22:56 |
| sledges | another proof what amazing heritage n9 is taking such pictures.. | 22:57 |
| Morpog_PC | yay downloaded it | 22:57 |
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| Hurrian | unedited; taken with macro mode. | 22:58 |
| sledges | and you can even get raw images out of n9 (recent 'new ' feature in lumias, along with LPM :D) | 23:00 |
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| Morpog_PC | sledges, Hurrian, fk_lx http://abload.de/img/nemomobile-glacier-lomes82.png | 23:08 |
| sledges | ahh :D | 23:09 |
| fk_lx | nice pic | 23:09 |
| sledges | darken the shade on top a bit?.. | 23:09 |
| fk_lx | better than bubbles :-P | 23:09 |
| Morpog_PC | ah well, another rebase then :D | 23:10 |
| Hurrian | is that 50px between the lock and the edge of the screen? | 23:11 |
| sledges | :D | 23:11 |
| sledges | rebase or reset Morpog_PC ? | 23:11 |
| Morpog_PC | reset | 23:11 |
| sledges | whew :) | 23:12 |
| Morpog_PC | Hurrian, no exactly 73 | 23:12 |
| Morpog_PC | 32 bottommargin to unlocktext | 23:12 |
| Hurrian | mmm. | 23:13 |
| Morpog_PC | but qwazix said we should get ride of lock and text as soon as a nudge feature is implemented | 23:13 |
| Hurrian | How about removing the unlock icon, and make the unlock text translucent (like the date?) | 23:13 |
| Morpog_PC | date is not transcluent at all | 23:13 |
| Hurrian | it's grey, not translucent? | 23:14 |
| Morpog_PC | yep | 23:14 |
| Hurrian | hmm | 23:14 |
| Morpog_PC | can make it white | 23:14 |
| Hurrian | rgba(255,255,255,0.8) would also work well. | 23:14 |
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| Morpog_PC | shall I remove the icon and unlock text now? :) | 23:15 |
| Hurrian | Sure. | 23:15 |
| Morpog_PC | hurrian, there is a black gradient behiind clock and datem so not sure if that transcluent thing works out | 23:15 |
| Hurrian | the idea's just to let some of the color from the wallpaper shine through | 23:16 |
| Morpog_PC | on clock and date? | 23:17 |
| Hurrian | nah, just date | 23:17 |
| Hurrian | oh yeah, is there a way to adjust kerning (letter spacing)? | 23:18 |
| Morpog_PC | yes | 23:18 |
| Hurrian | it seems a bit too far apart for me | 23:18 |
| Morpog_PC | letter spacing or word spacing is available | 23:18 |
| Hurrian | Try -25% spaces between characters. | 23:19 |
| Morpog_PC | on date or clock? | 23:20 |
| Hurrian | All system text, as long as that font's used. | 23:20 |
| Hurrian | I think the spacing on that font's a bit much. | 23:20 |
| Morpog_PC | Oh OK, I can't do that there :) | 23:21 |
| Morpog_PC | so I let that be and for example faenil would need to do that | 23:21 |
| Hurrian | ah | 23:21 |
| Morpog_PC | not sure where to config that | 23:22 |
| Morpog_PC | pushing changes to obs | 23:22 |
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| Morpog_PC | sledges, Hurrian http://abload.de/image.php?img=nemomobile-glacier-logjsei.png | 23:27 |
| Hurrian | alright, nice :) | 23:28 |
| Morpog_PC | darkened the gradient a bit for sledges | 23:28 |
| Hurrian | you can remove the black corners - they're not used in Glacier anymore ;) | 23:28 |
| Morpog_PC | strangely they only show up on that screenshot from virtualbox | 23:29 |
| Hurrian | ah. | 23:29 |
| Morpog_PC | ah no, they are in | 23:29 |
| Morpog_PC | didn't notice before | 23:29 |
| Morpog_PC | with bubbles wallpaper | 23:29 |
| Morpog_PC | they don't come from lockscreen | 23:30 |
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| sledges | Morpog_PC: now that you made date brighter, could you revert gradient as was? | 23:51 |
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| Morpog_PC | nope :) | 23:51 |
| Morpog_PC | it matches now more the mockup | 23:51 |
| Morpog_PC | mockup is even alot more dark | 23:52 |
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| Morpog_PC | ok sledges, I take the middle of both values :) | 23:54 |
| fk_lx | hehe | 23:58 |
| fk_lx | :-) | 23:58 |
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| Morpog_PC | I should sleep already | 23:59 |
| Morpog_PC | need to wake up in 4 hours and 30 min :) | 23:59 |
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