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niqt | morning | 07:23 |
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rcg | morning :) | 07:23 |
niqt | :) | 07:24 |
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locusf | morning :) | 07:45 |
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sledges | Sage, nope :{ http://repo.merproject.org/obs/nemo:/devel:/apps/latest_i486/repodata/?C=M;O=D | 09:29 |
sledges | gMorning :) | 09:32 |
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cxl000 | w00t, Could you have a look at https://github.com/nemomobile/ngfd/pull/17 | 09:36 |
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w00t | cxl000: special already reviewed it, I'll try find time to test and integrate today | 09:37 |
cxl000 | w00t, thanks | 09:38 |
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stephg | morning! | 09:43 |
stephg | quick question: what's the best way to get ahold of a recent wayland image? are you folks building your own? | 09:43 |
sledges | stephg, yes | 09:46 |
stephg | k, kickstart script then? | 09:46 |
sledges | https://www.dropbox.com/s/3t40ycc0jvrfmcn/nemo-n950-rnd-20130915.tar.bz2 | 09:46 |
stephg | oh cool# | 09:47 |
sledges | not really | 09:47 |
stephg | :) | 09:47 |
sledges | :D | 09:47 |
sledges | the one above has some fixes which would not get picked up by .ks yet :)) | 09:47 |
stephg | great | 09:47 |
stephg | I download :) | 09:47 |
sledges | ;) go ahead | 09:47 |
locusf | the fixes should have been picked for new images | 09:48 |
locusf | its already been a week .. | 09:49 |
sledges | locusf, good news, I've been afk for quite some time &) | 09:49 |
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locusf | its ok :) | 09:49 |
sledges | but | 09:49 |
sledges | I had a feeling, this one wouldn't be accepted yet ;) | 09:50 |
sledges | https://github.com/maliit/plugins/pull/4 | 09:50 |
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locusf | yeah | 09:50 |
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faenil | o/ hello peopl! | 09:57 |
locusf | heya | 09:57 |
sledges | \o! | 09:57 |
faenil | \o/ | 09:58 |
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locusf | ah mikhas replied to my maliit pr | 10:32 |
locusf | thanks :) | 10:32 |
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mikhas | locusf, about that – who will decide the theme switch eventually? | 11:30 |
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locusf | mikhas: I dont know | 11:44 |
mikhas | OK, so if it's potentially controversial I'll wait with that patch until after next Maliit release. | 11:47 |
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locusf | ok | 11:49 |
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sledges | faenil, qwazix, will nemo slowly transition to glacier as a rolling release? | 11:52 |
faenil | as in? | 11:54 |
faenil | qwazix, ping | 11:54 |
faenil | it's not clear to me if glacier and breeze are two themes of the same components | 11:54 |
faenil | or they're 2 different components sets | 11:54 |
sledges | we won't maintain current components/theme/apps and replace them one by one | 11:54 |
sledges | or create branches and complexity ;D | 11:54 |
faenil | ? | 11:55 |
faenil | we will replace apps one by one | 11:55 |
faenil | once components are ready | 11:55 |
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sledges | (breeze is something else to decide later, qwazix said he hopes it will be as simple as just a theme (PNGs) change) | 11:55 |
faenil | ok so it's theme | 11:56 |
faenil | since I'm structuring components, and tizen components already have theme handling, we should inherit that right now as well ;) | 11:56 |
sledges | ah yes didn't think of that, so it means we're not going to have qtcomponents theme inheritance engine anymore ;) | 11:58 |
faenil | :P | 11:58 |
sledges | man can't wait, all so exciting :) | 11:59 |
faenil | :) | 11:59 |
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tanuk | faenil: Tizen components? What are those? | 12:07 |
faenil | tanuk, Qt for Tizen guys built a Tizen components set out of QtQuickControls | 12:07 |
faenil | which is the same thing we have to do for nemo | 12:07 |
faenil | so we'll reuse their work | 12:07 |
tanuk | faenil: Thanks, I wasn't aware of the Qt for Tizen activity. | 12:08 |
locusf | cool | 12:11 |
faenil | tanuk, np | 12:12 |
faenil | tanuk, Qt for Tizen isn't supported by Samsung, but Samsung employees are working on it in their spare time | 12:12 |
sledges | and qqc-tizen are hosted under qt-project iirc ;) | 12:14 |
faenil | yep | 12:14 |
sledges | so not only Samsung welcomes | 12:14 |
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Anssi|| | cool | 12:18 |
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Anssi|| | i knew that there is some tizen qt activity, just did not know it comes from Samsung employees. It might actually be quite interesting. | 12:21 |
faenil | ;) | 12:21 |
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mikhas | it's all rather unofficial though | 12:25 |
faenil | yep | 12:26 |
sledges | qtfortizen , interestingly Alpha 2 is way smoother and looks nice, as compared to the most recent Alpha 3 :) (see youtube) | 12:27 |
faenil | sledges, guess what I already asked that question :P | 12:27 |
sledges | and the answer is? ;) | 12:27 |
faenil | it's the curl page effect ruining the experience, they ported shader code from a desktop shader, so it's not optimized | 12:27 |
sledges | why ruin the demo? :D | 12:28 |
faenil | because I guess that's part of tizen components? :/ | 12:28 |
faenil | don't know :D | 12:28 |
Anssi|| | sledges, maybe they try to make it so crappy that no one would use it? | 12:29 |
sledges | sounds more of Necrosoft strategy | 12:30 |
sledges | :)) | 12:30 |
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Anssi|| | sledges, now i know what consulting office Nokia used. http://www.burningplatform.co.uk/ | 12:38 |
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sledges | :D | 12:39 |
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qwazix | sledges, faenil, pong, reading backlog | 12:59 |
faenil | qwazix, ok ;) | 13:00 |
qwazix | faenil, breeze, if it comes eventually to life, might need some extra options for the components additionally to just different png's. Not a different component set though. However I haven't made a concrete study so it might be not so simple. I guess we should worry later about that. | 13:02 |
sledges | qwazix, the last convo about overall glacierisation popped up from mikhas asking locusf if nemo glacierised keyboard changes should be accepted into maliit for this release | 13:02 |
faenil | ok, I'm using theme1 and theme2 atm | 13:02 |
faenil | as we'll have have 2 themes for glacier in any case, I guess | 13:03 |
faenil | (like dark and light? something like that) | 13:03 |
qwazix | sledges, I believe it should be a rolling release. It won't be consistent during the transition, but it's not like we have lots of users that upgrade every day their daily phone. | 13:03 |
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sledges | +1 to that qwazix | 13:03 |
sledges | so mikhas could go ahead and make the first (locusf's) glacierisation (congelation ;D) happen? :D | 13:04 |
qwazix | faenil, I was hoping to have glacier for dark and breeze for light, but we should focus on only one thing now, just have the theming capability there | 13:04 |
qwazix | sledges, I would vote yes | 13:04 |
faenil | ok | 13:04 |
alterego | Hmm, hunger strikes .. | 13:07 |
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faenil | cool :) https://github.com/nemomobile/lipstick/pull/87 | 13:10 |
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sledges | \o/ locusf will be please with this :) | 13:11 |
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sledges | !seen Vesuri | 13:12 |
Merbot | sledges: Vesuri was last seen in #nemomobile 22 weeks, 3 days, 22 hours, 18 minutes, and 21 seconds ago: <Vesuri> thanks :) not a bad idea | 13:12 |
locusf | whats going on? | 13:20 |
sledges | locusf, lipstick gets screenshot ability via dbus | 13:21 |
locusf | ah screenshots : | 13:21 |
sledges | and mikhas should go ahead and accept the maliit PR ;) | 13:21 |
locusf | nice | 13:22 |
locusf | excellent | 13:22 |
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mikhas | cheers | 13:24 |
sledges | good stuff | 13:25 |
Anssi|| | +1 | 13:27 |
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* alterego wonders why somethings just have to be so difficult O_O | 13:32 | |
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w00t | alterego: life would be no fun if it was all easy | 13:42 |
alterego | ;) | 13:42 |
alterego | It's when it turns out to be easy, then I get frustrated ;) | 13:42 |
sledges | "nobody said it was easy" | 13:43 |
sledges | "no one ever said it would be so this hard" | 13:43 |
sledges | :D | 13:43 |
Morpog_N9 | qwazix, we need to talk header transparency | 13:44 |
Morpog_N9 | i checked with the listview and it looks strange | 13:45 |
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qwazix | Morpog_N9, I'll ping you in a while, can't right now | 13:52 |
Morpog_N9 | no prob, also not home yet | 13:53 |
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Sage | sledges: http://repo.merproject.org/obs/nemo:/devel:/mw/latest_armv7hl/repodata/0aa3af5ba0687fdc19aae087c00c6d5da0d8b843f319c81c40e820f7aeb728d4-patterns.xml.gz those are there | 15:22 |
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Sage | hmmp | 15:23 |
sledges | nope ;P | 15:24 |
Sage | apps was in strange state fixed that lets see if that fixes your issue | 15:25 |
Sage | but mw and ux should be there already | 15:25 |
sledges | Sage, the link you gave doesn't have changes | 15:26 |
sledges | still says nemo-qml-plugin-contacts-tools | 15:27 |
sledges | instead of its qt5 counterpart | 15:27 |
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sledges | ux is fine, confirmed | 15:28 |
sledges | and apps still doesn't pick up the nemo-apps-wayland.yaml | 15:31 |
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sledges | *xml | 15:31 |
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sledges | hm mw works too, sec | 15:34 |
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sledges | to shed more light on outstanding: Warning: repo problem: nothing provides pattern:nemo-apps-wayland needed by pattern:nemo-complete-wayland-.noarch, | 15:35 |
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sledges | and patterns-mw works without my PR because this error does not pop-up anymore (has somebody added "provides"? couldn't find any). last week's: Warning: repo problem: nothing provides nemo-qml-plugin-contacts-tools needed by pattern:nemo-rnd-wayland-.noarch | 15:41 |
sledges | Sage, apps now fine | 15:45 |
sledges | ;) | 15:45 |
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sledges | and i triggered rebuild on mw, as poorly OBS overslept its tagging last week :) | 15:45 |
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alterego | women ... | 15:51 |
alterego | That was a mean over generalisation, what I meant to say was .. | 15:51 |
alterego | "Girl friends ..." | 15:52 |
sledges | yup, they truly fall into the distinctive subcategory... | 15:52 |
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alterego | Well, I suppose you could expand it to include Mothers and sisters, they can be pretty random sometimes too ;) | 15:54 |
sledges | but not the same means to get around with :) | 15:55 |
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alterego | Heh | 15:57 |
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alterego | She had a big shouting fit at me last night, for no particular reason, and when she stormed off, somewhere, on the way home, she lost her bag, phone, etc. :/ | 15:58 |
sledges | i wonder why :)) | 15:59 |
alterego | To be fair, I walked her most of the way home, and I'm certain she had it when I went home. Very perculiar, and I thought she was ignoring my appologies this morning ;) | 16:00 |
sledges | just have to bear with them from-time-to-time.. | 16:00 |
alterego | She's gone through three iPhones in the past 8 months I think? | 16:00 |
alterego | That was rhetorical. | 16:00 |
alterego | ;) | 16:00 |
alterego | I think it's a subconcious want for a better device ;) | 16:00 |
alterego | Though I wouldn't tell her that ... | 16:01 |
sledges | Sage, mw in as well \o/ | 16:01 |
sledges | now onto the new PRs ;) | 16:01 |
Sage | sledges: can you build now with Nemo Complete the wayland image with hw adaptation extras? | 16:04 |
sledges | Sage, just submitted PR for meegotouch-systemui | 16:04 |
sledges | so, not yet :)) | 16:04 |
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alterego | Hrm, unresolved symbol in libdres | 16:20 |
alterego | Anyone else seen this? | 16:20 |
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alterego | Hrm, well, dinner time moaw. | 16:27 |
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locusf | https://github.com/mer-packages/qtwayland/blob/master/qtwayland/src/plugins/platforms/qwayland-egl/qwaylandglcontext.cpp#L150 <- RE: Wayland alpha textures not working, ping w00t, is this here on purpose? | 17:29 |
aknight | locusf: are you using window decorations? | 17:40 |
locusf | aknight: not to my knowledge | 17:40 |
w00t | locusf: note that that is only done if decorations are enabled (which in our case they should not be, right?) | 17:40 |
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aknight | you would know if you had them enabled (clients would have ugly chrome around them) | 17:41 |
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sledges | could anyone sanity-check this https://github.com/nemomobile/qmlclock/pull/1 (looks fine ported: http://s1260.photobucket.com/user/sledgas/media/qmlclock_zpsd4b0c0fc.png.html ) | 17:43 |
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locusf | w00t: ok | 17:45 |
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faenil | hey o/ | 17:49 |
faenil | how would you get date without "date" command? | 17:49 |
faenil | I need time actually | 17:49 |
Stskeeps | gcc -o date date.c | 17:50 |
Stskeeps | :P | 17:50 |
faenil | :D | 17:50 |
Stskeeps | (also, how on earth did you end up not having 'date'?) | 17:50 |
faenil | it's my router | 17:50 |
sledges | date +"%T" | 17:50 |
faenil | sledges, reread question :P | 17:50 |
sledges | 18:49 < faenil> I need time actually | 17:51 |
Stskeeps | faenil: /bin/busybox date | 17:51 |
sledges | "actually" is a modifier to the predecessing statement :P | 17:51 |
Stskeeps | :P | 17:51 |
faenil | Stskeeps, I have a custom fw on my Netgear, but it doesn't have date, nor lots of other stuff :D | 17:51 |
faenil | Stskeeps, applet not found | 17:51 |
locusf | install openwrt | 17:51 |
faenil | locusf, yes, I will ;) but atm I need a workaround :D | 17:52 |
faenil | Stskeeps, did you finish your bullets? :D | 17:53 |
faenil | dmesg has time, I want it too! lol | 17:54 |
Stskeeps | faenil: touch foo; ls -al file; parse time: | 17:55 |
Stskeeps | ? | 17:55 |
faenil | file: no such file or dir | 17:56 |
Stskeeps | .. | 17:56 |
faenil | parse: not found | 17:56 |
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Stskeeps | touch foo; ls -al foo | do-some-parsing | 17:57 |
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faenil | ahahahah | 17:57 |
faenil | not bad, not bad | 17:57 |
faenil | I found /bin/uptime | 17:57 |
faenil | which has time with seconds | 17:57 |
faenil | but no date | 17:57 |
faenil | ls doesn't have seconds otoh | 17:57 |
faenil | guess I'll make a mix | 17:58 |
faenil | bbl | 17:58 |
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qwazix | Morpog_PC, I got a few minutes if you are free | 18:52 |
Morpog_PC | yep | 18:52 |
Morpog_PC | so, transparency still looks ugly. I think we should make non transparent as default | 18:53 |
Morpog_PC | will show you an example | 18:53 |
Morpog_PC | http://abload.de/img/listview-master-scrolcmoth.png | 18:55 |
Morpog_PC | Thats with the header you specced | 18:55 |
Morpog_PC | It's confusing I think | 18:56 |
Morpog_PC | I tried to solve it with different gradients on header, but it's almost hopeless | 18:56 |
Morpog_PC | especially if you add icons and controls on header | 18:57 |
Morpog_PC | qwazix? | 18:58 |
qwazix | just a sec | 18:58 |
Morpog_PC | what could look goog would be a small gradient like I used on bottom here: http://abload.de/img/listview-master21qs1.png | 18:59 |
Morpog_PC | goog = good | 18:59 |
qwazix | yeah, that | 19:00 |
qwazix | we'll do it like that on the bottom few px of the header | 19:00 |
Morpog_PC | thats 20u in height | 19:00 |
Morpog_PC | on bottom there | 19:00 |
Morpog_PC | that would also solve how to handle scroll overflows | 19:01 |
qwazix | good, let's eat into the header, not put it below the header | 19:01 |
Morpog_PC | so no need to add outside of header | 19:01 |
qwazix | exactly | 19:01 |
Morpog_PC | yep, exactly | 19:01 |
Morpog_PC | lol | 19:01 |
qwazix | (do you think it makes sense to keep the old gradient as option specifically for image gallery?) | 19:02 |
qwazix | in harmattan there's a transclucent header in gallery only and it looks pretty ok | 19:03 |
qwazix | I mean to show there's something there so that the image doesn't look cropped | 19:03 |
Morpog_PC | well we could do a pref in header component for that, so developers can choose it, but not as default of course | 19:04 |
Morpog_PC | it looks pretty good on media stuff | 19:04 |
qwazix | I'm not sure we want to give developers the choice... Most dev's arent designers nor they have one (especially on a hacker's OS like nemo) | 19:05 |
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qwazix | we should be a bit strict with our components as people rarely read guidelines | 19:05 |
qwazix | (I mean 3rd party developers, nemo developers of course may use it, after review) | 19:06 |
Morpog_PC | won't they just hack it in if they see it on our apps? | 19:06 |
qwazix | they can, but let's not make it easy for them. There's one thing really wanting to do it like that, and another trying different prefs and choosing the one that looks blingier | 19:07 |
Morpog_PC | true | 19:08 |
qwazix | (and the fadeout one looks pretty cool in certain cases but as you just proved, in very rare ones) | 19:08 |
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qwazix | so let's use a customized component for gallery and spec the header like you said, with a 20u gradient on the bottom line | 19:10 |
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qwazix | Morpog_PC, maybe tweak those icons? they seem too harsh to me, even in hurrian's mockup where they have icons in them | 19:12 |
Morpog_PC | not sure about the 20u | 19:12 |
Morpog_PC | qwazix, they are just placeholders | 19:12 |
qwazix | Morpog_PC, I'm leaving the size to you | 19:12 |
qwazix | Morpog_PC, I know, but still... | 19:13 |
Morpog_PC | I just tried to replicate Hurrian's mockup for a first version | 19:13 |
qwazix | :nod: | 19:13 |
qwazix | just try some variations, maybe gray or sth can help sweeten the feel a bit | 19:13 |
Morpog_PC | dcdcdc should do it | 19:14 |
Morpog_PC | ok, So I will play around with header gradient a bit more, pretty hard to find a decent setting | 19:15 |
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qwazix | :nod: | 19:16 |
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qwazix | we could also use a gray (or color?) for either the title or info | 19:19 |
qwazix | Some friends came around for a beer. Cya later (or tomorrow). | 19:23 |
Morpog_PC | cya! | 19:27 |
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locusf | faenil: your repo contains nemo-configs-n950-n9 but can't this be in the main repos already? | 19:39 |
locusf | your repo messes up eg. fingerterm :p | 19:39 |
faenil | don't know because it could conflict with some x11 stuff | 19:40 |
faenil | that's why I didn't publish it | 19:40 |
locusf | oh ok | 19:40 |
faenil | I can delete fingerterm webhook | 19:40 |
locusf | not just that, probably package too | 19:41 |
faenil | package is automatically deleted when webhook is deleted | 19:41 |
locusf | oh cool, didn't know taht | 19:42 |
faenil | but I'm not sure | 19:42 |
faenil | I'm checking | 19:42 |
faenil | seems like it doesn't ;) | 19:42 |
locusf | I was just doing the same but looking at the sources | 19:43 |
faenil | ok deleted everything but opensans font and the config package | 19:44 |
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locusf | nice thx | 19:44 |
faenil | np | 19:45 |
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locusf | will confirm that fixes for lipstick and colorful-home have become part of the main circulation instead of my repo | 19:49 |
faenil | :) | 19:49 |
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