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sledges | jiok, i replied to you, please read logs | 05:20 |
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sledges | nothing is impossible, only impossible takes longer | 05:21 |
sledges | the question, is it worth the effort | 05:22 |
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locusf | gah, damn you nocturnal beasts :) | 06:51 |
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Morpog_N9 | locusf, read backlog, thx for fix | 07:02 |
Morpog_N9 | was out to watch champions league and eat pizza :D | 07:02 |
Morpog_N9 | unfortunately it needs also a smaller size, as the popper gets cut om top row at outer keys. Will have a look for it and update github after work. | 07:04 |
locusf | Morpog_N9: yeah will do thanks :) | 07:04 |
locusf | Morpog_N9: ok | 07:04 |
Morpog_N9 | locusf, no ni, I dis read backlog :) damn english past form | 07:05 |
Morpog_N9 | and my typing is bad this morning on vkb | 07:06 |
locusf | ah :D | 07:14 |
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niqt | morningù | 07:46 |
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locusf | https://github.com/nemomobile/qmlsettings/pull/6 <- w00t or somebody else, could you comment? | 07:55 |
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locusf | https://github.com/maliit/plugins/pull/4 <- + this :) | 08:09 |
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Sfiet_Konstantin | ping nemomobile designers qwazix, Morpog_N9 etc. | 08:26 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | sledges: ^ | 08:26 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | did glacier UI provides a way to change the color of highlighted items (we are just having blue buttons now) | 08:26 |
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Morpog_N9 | Sfiet_Konstantin have you checked grog? Buttons are described with highlighting | 08:36 |
Morpog_N9 | pressed and disabled states | 08:37 |
Morpog_N9 | also we habe gray and blue buttons | 08:37 |
Morpog_N9 | have | 08:37 |
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mric | locusf, hey :) | 09:21 |
sledges | m_orning :) | 09:23 |
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mric | sledges, hi :) | 09:41 |
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sledges | hello :) | 09:41 |
mric | sledges, do you know if the orientation issue is fixed ? | 09:44 |
sledges | mric, what's the last thing you know about it? | 09:44 |
sledges | from the irclog ;) | 09:44 |
mric | sledges, that people were working hard on it :) | 09:45 |
sledges | :D | 09:45 |
sledges | then I must have missed something :D | 09:45 |
Morpog_N9 | :D | 09:45 |
Morpog_N9 | orientation bug is only in VM iirc | 09:46 |
sledges | a, keyboard orientation bug yes | 09:46 |
Morpog_N9 | thats what mric talks about, or? | 09:46 |
sledges | ..or about n9(50) orientation? | 09:46 |
mric | Morpog_N9, my device seems to be stuck in landscape mode | 09:46 |
mric | *N9 | 09:47 |
Morpog_N9 | ah ok | 09:47 |
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mric | Morpog_N9, shouldn't it be ? | 09:47 |
Morpog_N9 | dunno, haven't heard about it from n950 users | 09:47 |
sledges | Morpog_N9, have you tried yourself? ;) | 09:48 |
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Morpog_N9 | nope, my N9 is my obly device, needs to run stable on harmattan till I have my Jolla | 09:49 |
Morpog_N9 | only | 09:50 |
sledges | daily phone \o/ nice | 09:50 |
Morpog_N9 | sure, nothing else comes close | 09:50 |
sledges | I had it as daily phone too, until usb socket snapped :{ | 09:50 |
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Morpog_N9 | eek | 09:51 |
Morpog_N9 | I eychanged housing twice becaise i was bored with the color | 09:51 |
Morpog_N9 | damn vkb :D | 09:51 |
sledges | ? | 09:51 |
sledges | a ok | 09:51 |
sledges | :D | 09:51 |
sledges | ddin't ntocie you had any tpyos | 09:52 |
Morpog_N9 | lol | 09:52 |
sledges | you really need other half if you get bored with colours :) | 09:53 |
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Morpog_N9 | yep | 09:53 |
Morpog_N9 | will have a half for every day | 09:53 |
mric | sledges, I'm still trying to install the qml packqge but after entering the command "zypper --no-refresh in --force Downloads/qmlsettings-0.0.0-1.armv7hl.rpm" I'm getting "unknow option --force" | 09:54 |
mric | do you have any idea ? | 09:54 |
Morpog_N9 | and I dream of a car holder half that also connects audio to car and powers device | 09:54 |
Morpog_N9 | force before in maybe mric? | 09:55 |
sledges | Morpog_N9, and relays usb charger down to bottom ;) | 09:55 |
sledges | mric, it works for me | 09:56 |
Morpog_N9 | yeah! | 09:56 |
sledges | please double check | 09:56 |
sledges | proof that im not dreaming: https://pastee.org/g7dsz | 09:56 |
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sledges | Sage, osc meta pattern nemo:devel:ux shows nemo-complete-wayland, but it's not yet hatched here: http://repo.merproject.org/obs/nemo:/devel:/ux/latest_armv7hl/repodata/ | 10:00 |
Sage | sledges: because it seems obs got bad during build https://build.merproject.org/monitor/old cc: lbt Stskeeps | 10:06 |
Sage | the build has never finished properly yet :/ | 10:06 |
Stskeeps | rebuild | 10:06 |
Stskeeps | ? | 10:06 |
Sage | https://build.merproject.org/ <- see the craph | 10:06 |
Sage | graph :) | 10:06 |
sledges | pun intended? :) | 10:06 |
Sage | yes ;) | 10:07 |
Stskeeps | looks like something got stuck indeed | 10:07 |
sledges | but it looks (normal) busy, doesn't it | 10:07 |
Sage | nope, build times are too long for normal builds | 10:09 |
sledges | ok | 10:09 |
Stskeeps | lbt: ^ worker restart/dispatcher/some service dead? | 10:09 |
lbt | looks like cmds is dead again | 10:13 |
lbt | no, it wasn't - very old dmesg stuff :) | 10:17 |
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sledges | i486 new patterns are in place, will test that instead | 10:46 |
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sledges | Sage, Warning: repo problem: nothing provides meegotouch-community-l10n needed by pattern:nemo-ux-wayland-.noarch, | 11:04 |
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sledges | we had had a slaughter some time ago :) | 11:04 |
sledges | and if i provide a l10n from testing, it goes onto: Warning: repo problem: nothing provides nemo-qml-plugin-contacts-tools needed by pattern:nemo-rnd-wayland-.noarch, | 11:06 |
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sledges | ok OBS fe looks dead now: OBS Web Interface Error: Uncaught exception: Connection refused - connect(2) | 11:11 |
sledges | lbt, ^ | 11:11 |
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lbt | sledges: ty - I've been looking at it for a while | 11:15 |
lbt | not sure what's up | 11:15 |
sledges | or what's down :) | 11:15 |
sledges | i mean, fe worked until now | 11:15 |
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sledges | sage I meld (kompare ;P) the two mic generated fs, I see pattern ks puled in /usr/lib/mcompositor/libmcompositor-gestures.so* | 11:26 |
sledges | and /usr/lib/applets/mappletrunner | 11:27 |
sledges | also /usr/lib/qt4/imports is there and qt4 so libs in general | 11:27 |
sledges | could be due to that all apps are being pulled in (we used to pull only qt5 ported ones) | 11:28 |
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Anssi|| | hm. is there a lipstick apis for stacking order? | 11:52 |
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Anssi|| | at least there are "void windowLowered(QObject *window);" signal | 11:54 |
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sledges | Sage, PRs submitted, I'm looking into taming apps pattern | 11:59 |
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Sage | merged | 12:02 |
sledges | thanks, will submit one more then you could tag release.. | 12:04 |
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sledges | ok, that's all PRs from me for now :) | 12:18 |
sledges | if all LeGiTiMate ;D Sage please fire up a release afterwads | 12:19 |
w00t | sledges: you should be able to push tags, fwiw ;) | 12:19 |
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sledges | w00t, not for https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-patterns ;) | 12:20 |
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Sage | tagged | 12:27 |
sledges | ok, now we ask for a longwait :)) | 12:27 |
sledges | thanks Sage | 12:27 |
Sage | well, obs seems to gone nuts :) | 12:28 |
sledges | :B | 12:29 |
sledges | one more PR, overlooked sorry | 12:39 |
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sledges | Sage, ping ^ | 13:27 |
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locusf | oh obs is broken | 13:43 |
sledges | yes, they're fighting on #mer since hours | 13:43 |
locusf | lol indeed | 13:44 |
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locusf | anyways, merged faenils PR's just now and once obs is back up the builds should include the maliit fixes | 13:46 |
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sledges | thanks locusf, fingers cross(compil)ed for obs | 13:47 |
locusf | I used to hate OBS, still do | 13:48 |
sledges | I loved it | 13:49 |
sledges | :) | 13:49 |
locusf | once something goes wrong, well .. | 13:49 |
sledges | it used to be dealt with; like everything else | 13:51 |
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sledges | locusf, 100% agree 15:14 < Stskeeps> stefan_schmidt_w: obs is a fantastic tool when it works | 14:17 |
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locusf | sledges: hehe yeah :) | 14:21 |
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sledges | Sage, I think tar_git is also down.. | 14:26 |
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mric_ | sledges, I'm back (having some internet problems) | 15:27 |
sledges | wb mric_ | 15:27 |
mric_ | sedges, just read in the log that for you the package works fine, right ? | 15:29 |
sledges | the command | 15:29 |
sledges | for any package | 15:29 |
locusf | hey mric_ | 15:29 |
mric_ | Hey locusf :) | 15:30 |
locusf | mric_: did you get the package working? | 15:30 |
mric_ | locusf, working on it (I had problems with internet) | 15:31 |
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locusf | ok | 15:32 |
mric_ | losusf, can I do it over ssh ? | 15:32 |
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locusf | sure | 15:33 |
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mric_ | I need to reboot under Linux but than could you explain how to connect in ssh (sedges explained to me a very long time ago but I think I forgot) | 15:34 |
mric_ | locusf or sledges ? | 15:34 |
sledges | who where!? :) | 15:35 |
sledges | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/USBNetworking | 15:35 |
mric_ | sledges, ok thanks that should be enough :) | 15:36 |
sledges | hope | 15:36 |
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jiok | sledges I saw your reply, it takes time, a lot of depandancies and stuff, but is it possible? it would be nice for me, I'm just wondering how difficult it is to run nemo apps on desktop | 15:55 |
jiok | Does any body know if there is a new image for N950? I tried building one my self and it didn't work | 15:56 |
locusf | jiok: there is | 15:56 |
jiok | locusf where can I get it? | 15:57 |
locusf | https://www.dropbox.com/s/3t40ycc0jvrfmcn/nemo-n950-rnd-20130915.tar.bz2 | 15:57 |
jiok | locusf thanks I'm testing | 16:01 |
locusf | jiok: np, report back on any glitches :) | 16:02 |
locusf | jiok: settings program is known not to work on wifi passhprase entry | 16:05 |
jiok | ok I'm booting now | 16:07 |
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jiok | it's showing nemo logo, how long is it supposed to show that? | 16:09 |
locusf | not long | 16:09 |
locusf | d7c3a5a14c74962518845cb9e8aa6e62 Dropbox/nemo-n950-rnd-20130915.tar.bz2 | 16:10 |
locusf | check md5sum if there are problems | 16:10 |
jiok | it's fine | 16:10 |
locusf | good | 16:11 |
jiok | Didn't work :s | 16:12 |
locusf | hmm thats odd | 16:13 |
jiok | I will extract again maybe I missed something | 16:13 |
locusf | if you can ssh in and see journalctl -f -a | 16:13 |
jiok | How do I ssh into it? with usb? is it the same address displayed when I boot? the default one? 192.168.2.15? | 16:16 |
locusf | yes thats it | 16:16 |
locusf | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/USBNetworking | 16:16 |
sledges | also several reboots tend to massage sanity into it | 16:20 |
sledges | s/it/first boot annoyances/ | 16:20 |
locusf | that too | 16:20 |
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jiok | it's working now, so just one question.. this looks way different that what I saw on some videos is that due to the wayland change? | 16:35 |
sledges | yes | 16:36 |
sledges | neom wayland is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Js9BePSwPKs | 16:36 |
sledges | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rGET5Uxu5E | 16:36 |
locusf | the upper video is not from an image btw but nemo wayland regardless | 16:38 |
sledges | jiok, and it brings us to your previous question: does your desktop run wayland? ;) | 16:38 |
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jiok | I guess not, I don't much about it as you can see.. I wanted to test the applications, I was able to compile and install mlite but I got some errores when trying to compile the components | 16:39 |
sledges | although it's not necessary for your desktop to run wayland, as long as you don't want to run lipstick (wayland dependent) homescreen on your desktop | 16:40 |
sledges | and for running isolated nemo's qt5 apps should be doable | 16:40 |
sledges | as long as they don't interdepend too much between themselves, and most importantly, between middleware | 16:40 |
jiok | that's what I tought, but I'm stuck compiling the components | 16:40 |
sledges | simple apps like qnotes you could launch | 16:40 |
sledges | but if you want to launch qmlsettings and control your desktop's wifi, i think you need to take loads of things into consideration ;) (your desktop's network manager to say the least) | 16:41 |
jiok | No I actually wanted to help with something so I wanted to try the music player first | 16:42 |
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sledges | there must be a reason why you don't like VMs jiok :) | 16:43 |
sledges | because there everything is out of box, on your desktop you'll spend more time setting it all up (because noone here has done this before) than addressing the app itself | 16:43 |
jiok | No particular reason, I can try the VM, but I would also like to be able to test on my desktop, but yeah it looks like it requires some time so I guess I will test the VM | 16:44 |
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jiok | I have another question, I saw the before wayland videos and performance was very good, I know this change was recent and I understand that N9/N950 hardware is old.. but is the wayland image expected to be as fast as the old one some day? or only for new hardware? | 16:47 |
sledges | w00t, ^ ? | 16:47 |
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locusf | thats probably rather a question to me and faenil | 16:50 |
locusf | well I don't know yet if there is anything that can be optimized on wayland side to make it as fast as the X11 image | 16:51 |
sledges | locusf, jiok : https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation/N9-N950/Wayland#Original_instructions | 16:51 |
sledges | read last 3 lines of first irc snippet | 16:52 |
sledges | and then the last irc snippet | 16:52 |
sledges | i hoped w00t could shed any new light on this | 16:52 |
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jiok | I see, well I hope it gets better for N9/N950 :p | 16:53 |
sledges | fingers cross(compil)ed jiok | 16:54 |
jiok | I guess I have to ask, are the apps different before and after wayland? or is just middleware stuff? if apps are the same, can I use older images? or I should stick to this one | 16:55 |
sledges | apps have been ported to qt5 | 16:56 |
sledges | they haven't been tested, and before wayland (called x11/qt4) apps are discontinued unless there is a demand | 16:56 |
jiok | I understand, thanks for your help :D | 16:57 |
sledges | lots of exciting stuff to do | 16:57 |
locusf | + glacier of course | 16:59 |
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jiok | that glacier UI looks nice | 17:00 |
locusf | the only real thing about glacier now is the keyboard :/ | 17:01 |
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jiok | Do you guys know what is the latest x11/qt4 image available for N950? | 17:15 |
locusf | http://releases.nemomobile.org/releases/0.20130620.0.1/images/nemo-armv7hl-n950/nemo-armv7hl-n950-0.20130620.0.1.tar.bz2 | 17:19 |
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Morpog_PC | qwazix, sent a PR | 17:33 |
Morpog_PC | changed popper size and spacing, vacuumed defs | 17:33 |
qwazix | k, will merge | 17:34 |
Morpog_PC | locusf, new popper image is in there, also specced now at 56x84, spacing to key is still 8px and font size stays | 17:34 |
locusf | Morpog_PC: ok | 17:35 |
qwazix | Merged and pulled. Everybody working on it make sure to pull, as conflict resolution is a PITA | 17:36 |
Morpog_PC | maybe we should do seperate files for each control? | 17:37 |
qwazix | Morpog_PC, tip to further reduce file size: When editing gradients with the edit tool on the left a duplicate is created. Sometimes this is not intended, and you want to change everything that uses that gradient. Pushing on Ctrl+Shift+F and then edit, shows a gradient edit dialog that edits the gradient without duplicating it (and thus changing all the items that use it) | 17:39 |
qwazix | or make sure similar controls use the same gradient (you can see gradient ID in Fill+Stroke dock) and then vacuum defs again | 17:40 |
qwazix | anyway, I'm cool either way. Might be better for merges to split into different files. | 17:40 |
Morpog_PC | ah ok, was already confused by all those gradient copies :) | 17:41 |
qwazix | (I'm not saying that you should do any of the above, just explaining what I have noticed) | 17:41 |
Morpog_PC | nono, it's good t know such stuff, as I'm still learning to use inkscape properly :) | 17:41 |
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Sage | so obs still down? | 18:19 |
Sage | or workers not functioning | 18:19 |
Stskeeps | so the problem is the AMQP server acting up and stalling repserver | 18:20 |
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rcg | Sage, is that pull request for qca on github ok? | 18:50 |
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Morpog_PC | btw qwazix, what do you think about space not centered in VKB? | 19:01 |
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Morpog_PC | Glacier UI switch http://play.qwazix.com/grog/?p=561 | 19:15 |
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Morpog_PC | qwazix, PR from switch spec and files | 19:18 |
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lbt | Sage: obs should have been fixed a few hours ago | 20:11 |
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faenil | o/ | 20:15 |
faenil | evening | 20:15 |
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Morpog_Mobile | Evening | 20:18 |
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faenil | is it true that jolla will publish tech specs before end of this week? | 20:29 |
fk_lx | faenil: according to some rumors | 20:32 |
fk_lx | :-) | 20:32 |
Morpog_Mobile | Was in an interview | 20:33 |
Morpog_Mobile | I think they publish it tomorrow | 20:34 |
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faenil | yeah it was on an interview | 20:34 |
fk_lx | Morpog_Mobile: makes sense - starting second round of preorders and revealing specs | 20:38 |
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Sage | lbt: well I can't seem to be able to connect to the webui | 21:15 |
lbt | Sage: hmm | 21:16 |
lbt | it's working just fine here | 21:16 |
lbt | there's a bit of an issue that https://build.merproject.org/monitor is showing old jobs as still active | 21:17 |
Sage | well to me it doesn't respond :/ | 21:17 |
lbt | osc works here too | 21:17 |
Sage | maybe just isp error | 21:17 |
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lbt | in .fi ? | 21:18 |
Sage | yes | 21:20 |
Sage | let me try osc | 21:20 |
Sage | osc doesn't work either it seems | 21:20 |
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lbt | Sage: looks ok then | 21:27 |
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qwazix | Morpog_PC, will merge tomorrow. Reading blog now and going to sleep | 21:53 |
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