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locusf | morning | 06:11 |
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WWDrakey | Do any of the Nemo apps happen to have any kind of localization implemented? (minimal is perfectly ok) | 06:57 |
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niqt | morning | 07:32 |
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locusf | can anybody test copy/paste on their wayland image? | 07:50 |
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Morpog_N9 | sorry locusf, not at home | 07:58 |
locusf | np | 07:58 |
Morpog_N9 | btw, vm worked after redownload | 07:58 |
locusf | cool good | 07:58 |
Morpog_N9 | but keyboard looked strange | 07:58 |
Morpog_N9 | stretched | 07:59 |
locusf | sledges told that too | 07:59 |
locusf | yeah it thinks its in landscape mode | 07:59 |
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Morpog_N9 | qtcomponents work alot better than on sailfishos vm btw | 08:00 |
locusf | oh | 08:04 |
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sledges | g_morning | 09:35 |
sledges | Morpog_N9, a lot better = faster? | 09:36 |
Morpog_N9 | no, better compatibilty | 09:37 |
Morpog_N9 | in sailfishos vm, top bar was half out of screen, so not able to press ok and cancel | 09:38 |
sledges | nice | 09:38 |
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locusf | ok,good to know | 13:07 |
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mric | locusf, Hey :) | 13:24 |
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mric | "can anybody test copy/paste on their wayland image?" I'm not able to highlights some text so I'm unable to test copy/paste function | 13:35 |
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Merbot | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#421 waiting for review at https://build.merproject.org//request/show/421 | 13:42 |
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Merbot | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#421 Accepted promotion request | 13:59 |
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Merbot | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#422 waiting for review at https://build.merproject.org//request/show/422 | 15:15 |
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Merbot | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#422 Accepted promotion request | 15:23 |
Morpog_N9 | booooring | 15:38 |
sledges | :D | 15:38 |
Morpog_N9 | i hate having late hotline once a week at work | 15:38 |
sledges | you work on a hotline? :) | 15:38 |
Morpog_N9 | only half a day once a week | 15:39 |
Morpog_N9 | every in the team has to do it :) | 15:39 |
sledges | nice :) so support line you mean | 15:40 |
Morpog_N9 | I prefer to do it early instead of late, then I can do server updates | 15:40 |
Morpog_N9 | yep | 15:40 |
Morpog_N9 | 1400 dumb users | 15:41 |
sledges | :))) | 15:41 |
sledges | using CD tray as coffee holder? | 15:41 |
Morpog_N9 | haha, not that dumb ;) | 15:42 |
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Morpog_N9 | 17minutes to go | 15:43 |
Morpog_N9 | no calls since over 1 hour | 15:44 |
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sledges | :) everyone's drinking coffee ;) | 15:54 |
sledges | Morpog_N9, I noticed on qwazix's components repo SVGs range up to 1-2 Megabytes, whereas their respectful PNGs are just few pixels wide.. | 15:54 |
sledges | is it some sort of project metadata in SVGs? | 15:55 |
Morpog_N9 | I'm not sure why that happens sometimes | 15:56 |
Morpog_N9 | must be an inkscape bug when importing other svg in a svg | 15:56 |
Morpog_N9 | It's not a matter for us, since we use the PNG's anways | 15:57 |
Morpog_N9 | the svg's are just there for recreation in other sizes | 15:57 |
Morpog_N9 | yay, it's over! I can go home. | 16:02 |
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sledges | Morpog_N9, though I remember discussion scaling to other form factors, is to package SVGs and make sizes in-place | 16:13 |
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sledges | we'll surely worry about that when we have another form factor ;) | 16:21 |
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Sfiet_Konstantin | what is the current status of Nemo ? | 16:22 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | I think that I will be able to participate in developing Nemo UI for a school project :) | 16:22 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | sledges ^ | 16:22 |
sledges | Sfiet_Konstantin, \o/ \o/ | 16:23 |
sledges | :) | 16:23 |
* sledges meant two people cheering | 16:23 | |
Sfiet_Konstantin | :) | 16:23 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | I have to grab someone, and I think I found one | 16:24 |
locusf | I hope to do the same but will help even if not for school project :) | 16:24 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | still, I need to keep her, because school are providing some good projects | 16:24 |
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Sfiet_Konstantin | and we even have a conference to present companies project, but nothing to present student projects | 16:25 |
sledges | next (UI) thing is to create glacier qtquick(control) components. currently they are being cut into SVGs(PNGs) | 16:25 |
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Sfiet_Konstantin | sledges: we thought about writing components and doing core apps | 16:26 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | dialer, messages etc. | 16:26 |
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Morpog_PC | sledges, I'm still not sure it that plan works out | 16:31 |
Morpog_PC | and yes, we would have to fix that size problems before packaging SVG's | 16:32 |
sledges | Sfiet_Konstantin, great. Venemo volunteered to QMLise components too | 16:32 |
Morpog_PC | Sfiet_Konstantin, we had the idea to generate components graphics from SVG while installation for each display resolution and size | 16:33 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | Morpog_PC: woow | 16:33 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | sledges: we will need to sync with venemo | 16:33 |
sledges | i hope Sage could do wayland/qt5 patterns, as he is able to do it at lightning speed | 16:33 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | we won't be able to be much on IRC, so the ML would be needed | 16:34 |
sledges | Sfiet_Konstantin, and wits faenil and qwazix | 16:34 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | sledges: if we have ks it is already something, we just need some dev image | 16:34 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | any N950 image ? | 16:34 |
sledges | Sfiet_Konstantin, yes | 16:34 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | how is the state of the components ? | 16:34 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | null or already some code ? | 16:34 |
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Morpog_PC | faenil is in holidays (sardinia I think) | 16:35 |
sledges | none in qml except vkbd whicb does not need a qt-glaciercomponents | 16:35 |
sledges | whereas the latter hasnt been created yet | 16:35 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | ok | 16:36 |
sledges | the playground is: | 16:36 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | We will focus on it | 16:36 |
sledges | install qtquickcontrols-examples and start playing | 16:36 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | we can base on qqc tizen as well | 16:36 |
sledges | then a new package will be born out of it | 16:37 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | we might setup a scrum-like method as well | 16:37 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | to track our project | 16:37 |
Morpog_PC | I think faenil already had a look at QQick controls and tizen ones. He even cloned some repos IIRC | 16:37 |
sledges | id call it GlacierComponentsGallery | 16:37 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | sledges: yeah, a components gallery is required | 16:37 |
sledges | which will dictate how qtquickcontrol package will shape | 16:37 |
locusf | http://db.tt/1ZH3kpgq <- here iz the latest wayland image | 16:37 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | if we can get a dialer + messages apps before feb, then that would be nice | 16:38 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | locusf: ks file ? | 16:38 |
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locusf | Sfiet_Konstantin: https://github.com/faenil/NemoWaylandKickstart/blob/master/nemo-armv7hl-n950-rnd.ks | 16:39 |
Morpog_PC | locusf, I just started the VM with 854x480x32 and now the VKB shows correctly. Just my head is now fixed at 90 degrees :D | 16:39 |
sledges | Sfiet_Konstantin, componentsgallery will be born out of existing qtquickcontrols-examples (directly) | 16:39 |
locusf | Morpog_PC: lol | 16:39 |
sledges | Morpog_PC, lol | 16:39 |
sledges | :D | 16:39 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | awesome | 16:40 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil's ks is awesome | 16:40 |
sledges | lots of reading of grog blog ;) | 16:40 |
sledges | Sfiet_Konstantin, it doesnt have maliit fixes mind | 16:40 |
Morpog_PC | yeah we filled it a bit :) | 16:40 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | sledges: we will use our kbd | 16:40 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | the idea is to get components in shape right ? | 16:40 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | :) | 16:40 |
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sledges | your own kbd? | 16:41 |
Morpog_PC | Sfiet_Konstantin, the kbd won't show up at all without fixes | 16:41 |
sledges | ah hw lol im so not into hwkbds haha | 16:41 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | sledges: on vbox, using kbd of the computer | 16:41 |
Morpog_PC | ah, lol | 16:41 |
sledges | or n950 ;P | 16:41 |
locusf | my obs home repo has the fixes | 16:41 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | I have one N950, we are two, I guess I will dev on vbox | 16:41 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | or the other one | 16:42 |
qwazix | Morpog_PC, sledges, there's a "vacuum defs" option in inkscape, we should use it more often. Also some of my svg's have redundant images embedded that I just use during workflow which can be removed | 16:42 |
qwazix | and also, saving as "plain svg" instead of "inkscape svg" saves some KB | 16:42 |
sledges | Sfiet_Konstantin, check and use faenil's github examples package to shape/skin glacier in thwre | 16:42 |
Morpog_PC | well, KB are not the problem | 16:42 |
sledges | qwazix, thanks | 16:43 |
Morpog_PC | some of my files use a few MB | 16:43 |
qwazix | however I'd say let's worry about that when closer to production | 16:43 |
Morpog_PC | and PNG a few KB | 16:43 |
sledges | +1 | 16:43 |
sledges | i just noticed the impact on github if any | 16:43 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | sledges: thanks | 16:44 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | sledges: but I guess that we can manage without kbd right now | 16:44 |
Morpog_PC | qwazix, where is that option? I wanna try it? | 16:44 |
sledges | on kmd note, yes, sure | 16:44 |
sledges | *kbd | 16:44 |
qwazix | Morpog_PC, File > Vacuum defs | 16:45 |
Morpog_PC | once faenil is back, I'm sure hew ill push that changes | 16:45 |
Morpog_PC | OMG from over 3MB to 8KB :D | 16:45 |
sledges | faenil was hesitant about maliit acceptance , locusf can tell ;) | 16:45 |
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Sfiet_Konstantin | sledges, Morpog_PC and all: what are your typical dev environnement for nemo right now | 16:47 |
sledges | mersdk | 16:47 |
locusf | yup, but can't blame him :) | 16:47 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | ok | 16:47 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | vbox ? | 16:48 |
Morpog_PC | till yesterday it was the SailfishOS VM :D, today it's Nemo VM | 16:48 |
sledges | vbox | 16:48 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | Morpog_PC: what do you use to compile ? on VM ? | 16:48 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | or mersdk ? | 16:48 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | mersdk seems to be a constant | 16:48 |
Morpog_PC | Sfiet_Konstantin, I don't compile at all | 16:48 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | Morpog_PC: :D | 16:48 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | this helps | 16:48 |
Morpog_PC | :D | 16:48 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | we will have to compile | 16:48 |
Morpog_PC | well, I tried some code snippets in SailfishOS SDK | 16:49 |
sledges | locusf made nemo target for sailfish sdk! | 16:49 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | sledges: what do you think about using sailfish mersdk instead of native mersdk ? | 16:49 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | sledges: perfect :) | 16:49 |
sledges | Sfiet_Konstantin, ask locusf | 16:49 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | locusf: ^ | 16:49 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | I can manage the mersdk easily, but the other student might not | 16:49 |
locusf | one moment | 16:49 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | she is a beginner in C++ / Linux / Nemo in general (just like all students out there) | 16:50 |
Morpog_PC | got a windows environment here, so not that easy to get involved with nemo/mer development | 16:50 |
locusf | http://locusf.blogspot.fi/2013/09/adding-armv7hl-target-to-sailfish-sdk.html | 16:50 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | locusf: thanks | 16:50 |
locusf | np :) | 16:51 |
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qwazix | Morpog_PC, if you want to know more about vacuum defs, every time you create let's say, a gradient, inkscape goes and puts that in the start of the svg file in a section called <defs> and never deletes it. Not only gradients go there, but filters and other things. Vacuum defs goes and deletes all unused defs | 16:52 |
Morpog_PC | qwazix, good to know, as I tryout alot of stuff sometimes :) | 16:54 |
qwazix | Morpog_PC, create a simple svg with a rectangle, or simple path and open it in a text editor to see the structure if you are interested. | 16:57 |
qwazix | I'm going home. cya later | 16:58 |
sledges | cyas | 16:58 |
Morpog_PC | cya | 16:58 |
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Morpog_PC | locusf, the popper needs more spacing, like in spec defined if thats possible | 17:02 |
locusf | Morpog_PC: ok, did you test it? | 17:03 |
Morpog_PC | well, in landscape | 17:03 |
locusf | well ofc | 17:03 |
locusf | ok | 17:03 |
Morpog_PC | can make you a screenshot | 17:03 |
locusf | I'm not 100% sure about how the popper is calculated | 17:04 |
locusf | nope | 17:04 |
locusf | not on my N9 now and wayland gst sink is experimental | 17:04 |
Morpog_PC | there seems to be no spacing at all | 17:04 |
locusf | yeah there isn't | 17:05 |
sledges | wayland gst sink does not contain src :( | 17:06 |
Morpog_PC | hmmm, seems I gorgot to add popper spacing in final spec. It was in in a draft | 17:06 |
Morpog_PC | forgot | 17:06 |
Morpog_PC | should be 8 pixels | 17:08 |
locusf | ok | 17:08 |
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locusf | oh morpog left :/ | 19:08 |
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locusf | well anyways, popper spacing is now fixed | 19:21 |
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Sage | sledges: I will try to create that for you tomorrow | 19:27 |
Sage | sledges: can you list packages that are needed for the wayland image? | 19:29 |
locusf | Sage: isn't faenil's .ks enough? or do you need the real bare minimum? | 19:32 |
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piggz | anyone know how i can update my existing n950 nemo to wayland qt5? ive run zypper up, but get the egl trippy colour pattern | 19:42 |
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locusf | piggz: not right now no | 19:45 |
sledges | Sage, locusf reads my mind :) | 19:45 |
locusf | sledges: btw I found gst-wayland sources | 19:46 |
locusf | the problem is that it doesn't compile as Nemo doesn't have gst-video libraryt | 19:46 |
locusf | https://gitorious.org/gst-wayland/gst-wayland/source/6575cb5bfb8c21959e3f22296cfd5e6ca34ca9e3: | 19:47 |
sledges | locusf, but before you go ahead, has it got waylandsrc in it? | 19:47 |
locusf | I dunno | 19:47 |
sledges | i spoke in #wayland | 19:47 |
sledges | and there black_prince did | 19:47 |
sledges | gst-inspect | grep wayland | 19:48 |
sledges | and it spat only waylandsink :/ | 19:48 |
locusf | hmm ok | 19:48 |
sledges | he first suggested to use gstn1.0 | 19:48 |
sledges | s/n/ / | 19:49 |
Sage | locusf: link to that .ks file? | 19:54 |
sledges | https://github.com/faenil/NemoWaylandKickstar | 19:55 |
sledges | t/blob/master/nemo-armv7hl-n950-rnd.ks | 19:55 |
sledges | whoops hate juice ssh counterintuitive copy paste :) | 19:56 |
sledges | and other .kss next to it Sage | 19:56 |
sledges | i had a wild thought to make a script to feed that ks so it finds minimal set of packages needed to pull all those | 19:57 |
sledges | yes/no/maybe/already done? :) | 19:57 |
Sage | sledges: ok, need to start moving from qt4 to qt5 stuff | 19:57 |
sledges | in that ks there are no qt4s nor x11s pullers | 19:58 |
Sage | yes noted that | 19:59 |
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sledges | ok :) | 20:00 |
sledges | also would be nice if somebody with admin rifhts to bugzilla could fix NEMO#700 (hope iekku is ok) | 20:01 |
* Sage 's laptop just crashed need to reboot it seem | 20:02 | |
sledges | should be trivial fix | 20:02 |
sledges | hi fi | 20:04 |
sledges | faenil | 20:04 |
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sledges | stop reading my memoserv msgs while hiding :D | 20:05 |
Sage | sledges: fixing that atm. :) | 20:05 |
faenil | eveniiing | 20:05 |
faenil | o/ | 20:05 |
Sage | if my laptop works together with me | 20:05 |
sledges | \o | 20:06 |
sledges | Sage, awesomeness | 20:06 |
faenil | Sage, great to see you're back!! | 20:06 |
sledges | he's back and he's badder than ever :)) | 20:06 |
faenil | yay! | 20:07 |
faenil | I'm on devalpha C :) | 20:07 |
sledges | +b | 20:07 |
sledges | or | 20:07 |
sledges | +c | 20:07 |
sledges | :D | 20:07 |
faenil | lol | 20:07 |
Sage | :P | 20:07 |
sledges | faenil, rumours have it youre on hols ;) | 20:09 |
faenil | yup | 20:09 |
faenil | 50km/h wind | 20:09 |
faenil | but apart from that, all good | 20:09 |
sledges | :D similar here today.. | 20:09 |
sledges | you sound likeba sailor in a storm :) | 20:09 |
faenil | can't take bath with that wind :( | 20:10 |
sledges | :D | 20:10 |
faenil | yep :P | 20:10 |
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faenil | isn't bath used as sea bath as well? :) | 20:11 |
sledges | in italiano? far'il bagno... no :)) | 20:12 |
sledges | faenil, sfiet_konstantin is doing nemo ui as uni project with his pupil! \o/ | 20:12 |
sledges | namely glacier components and apps | 20:12 |
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sledges | read backscroll, hope i didnt talk too much nonsense there :)) | 20:13 |
faenil | guys, I have been doing all this to be able to do components | 20:13 |
faenil | now finally the time has come to work on components | 20:13 |
faenil | and everyone wants to do that now :( | 20:14 |
faenil | I mean wth :( | 20:14 |
sledges | plenty of work man plenty.. | 20:15 |
piggz | faenil: i cant see that package | 20:15 |
piggz | faenil: there is nokia-n950-configs | 20:15 |
faenil | ok install it then | 20:15 |
faenil | no, not enough | 20:15 |
piggz | faenil: no, when i search it isnt there | 20:16 |
piggz | missing repo? | 20:16 |
faenil | piggz right, it's on my repo, can't make that public yet | 20:16 |
faenil | look for my repo on obs and get it from there | 20:16 |
faenil | it's not public yet as it could conflict with current x11 installs | 20:17 |
sledges | at any rate, first to do it instead of talking will actually be doing it ;) all along the path with the little help from all friends | 20:17 |
faenil | I was starting it at smartdevcon, if I didn't forget my power adaptor home, thus having to use only phone at smartdevcon | 20:18 |
faenil | but I talked to Qt tizen guys anyway | 20:18 |
faenil | and had a chat about components | 20:18 |
faenil | piggz or just get the repo url from the ks file on my github repo | 20:19 |
faenil | locusf how is it going buddy? | 20:21 |
sledges | he has glacierised maliit, i suppose you wanted to do that too | 20:22 |
faenil | Nope we talked about that ;) | 20:22 |
faenil | I read the logs all days anyway :) | 20:22 |
sledges | a, sorry that the rest of us lot didnt have a talk with you | 20:23 |
sledges | venemo will volunteer to qmlise components, you had a chance to f2f him in sdc | 20:24 |
faenil | No problem man, I'm no captain here you don't have to talk to me :P | 20:24 |
faenil | already talked to Venemo today, anyway it's not a problem to me | 20:24 |
faenil | I don't want to make you wait because I'm on holiday and will be slow because of studies | 20:25 |
sledges | right then sorry, misunderstood the whole thing | 20:25 |
faenil | it's just that after doing the boring stuff | 20:25 |
faenil | now everybody jumps in and wants to do the cool stuff | 20:26 |
sledges | i completely understand that | 20:26 |
faenil | so, well I'm just a bit sad, as it was my plan from the beginning to do components | 20:26 |
sledges | but the ship needs to sail on :D | 20:26 |
faenil | I kept pushing qwazix and Hurrian and Morpog to create the graphics files so that I could start | 20:27 |
sledges | one martial art instructor said, without boring there is no cool | 20:27 |
faenil | now it seems nobody knew I was researching and planning components | 20:27 |
sledges | its sad that you got on a boring train, how could we cheer you up? :) | 20:28 |
faenil | no problem man, just a bit sad | 20:28 |
w00t | faenil: there will be more than enough work to go around... :) | 20:28 |
sledges | just let us know please , we missed your ml posts ;) | 20:28 |
faenil | w00t oh I'm sure there will be enough for everyone | 20:29 |
faenil | just, as I said, I'm not used to such situations, but no problem, it's all experience | 20:29 |
sledges | i just imagined: what if 2-3 people work at the same time on different components but push to the same repo. what could possibly go wrong? guidelines, uniformiry, nothing? :) | 20:30 |
piggz | faenil: rebooting... | 20:30 |
faenil | nothing imho ;) I just want to learn more ;) | 20:30 |
piggz | faenil: \o/ a ui | 20:31 |
sledges | so the effort will be successfully parallelised and everyone's having rip-roaring time :) | 20:31 |
faenil | did locusf post the changes upstream anyway? as I think I'll have to work on nemo-keyboatd to fix the remaining Maliit issues | 20:31 |
faenil | piggz great ;) | 20:31 |
piggz | faenil: ta, i will build some packages now :) | 20:31 |
sledges | locusf said that you told him not to accept pr yet. last news we knew :) | 20:32 |
faenil | no I mean the glacier Maliit, that's in another repo imho | 20:32 |
sledges | need to wake him up :)) | 20:32 |
faenil | anyway about Maliit stuff, please merge that as I won't have time to fix that properly :( (it was planned for smartdevcon) | 20:33 |
faenil | sorry for making you guys wait | 20:33 |
faenil | planned to research and fix the alpha bug in qtwayland before accepting the workaround | 20:33 |
sledges | jolla will try too? | 20:34 |
faenil | workaround is enough, they could just postpone that ;) | 20:34 |
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Sage | faenil: sledges: ping | 20:40 |
faenil | yo sag | 20:40 |
Sage | @Nemo Complete Wayland | 20:40 |
Sage | try that + hw adaptation bits in .ks file | 20:40 |
faenil | awesome! thanks! | 20:40 |
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sledges | awesomnesss | 20:41 |
faenil | eh, can't try from phone :) | 20:41 |
sledges | will try | 20:41 |
Sage | https://github.com/faenil/NemoWaylandKickstart/blob/master/nemo-armv7hl-n950-rnd.ks <- from this drop 25-51, 90-149 | 20:41 |
Sage | it builds atm. but should be ready soonish | 20:41 |
Sage | oh umm... | 20:42 |
sledges | many thanks Sage | 20:42 |
w00t | Sage: not to be an asshole, but can you please see msg elsewhere? :p | 20:42 |
sledges | and to faenil for pushing the idea through :) | 20:42 |
Sage | w00t: haha :) | 20:42 |
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faenil | lol | 20:43 |
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faenil | ahaha, hacky revenges | 20:44 |
sledges | what happened to the trout? | 20:45 |
Sage | sledges: beaten to pieces already ;) | 20:45 |
sledges | :) sushi | 20:46 |
sledges | (fish'n'chips round here..) | 20:46 |
faenil | :) | 20:47 |
Sage | sledges: faenil https://build.merproject.org/monitor/old | 20:48 |
Sage | so build avalance and might take a while | 20:48 |
* w00t wonders why there are so many packages | 20:49 | |
faenil | ouch | 20:49 |
Sage | w00t: yes that is huge amount | 20:49 |
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faenil | piggz so it's booting to UI correctly? | 20:59 |
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faenil | Sage are you planning to make hw pattern as well? | 21:05 |
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Sage | faenil: after someone tests those other things yes | 21:09 |
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faenil | Sage ok ;) | 21:18 |
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faenil | yo Sfiet_Konstantin | 21:19 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | hello faenil :) | 21:19 |
qwazix | faenil, sledges I think that parallel work on components can work if we build a dependency tree first | 21:20 |
faenil | qwazix agree | 21:20 |
qwazix | and I'm sure there will be lot's of work for everyone, there are animations and stuff to be done, glacier isn't the easiest of themes | 21:21 |
qwazix | (in fact I was afraid that we might be planning too elaborate things that would take ages at expense of having a working set soon, now I'm a bit relieved) | 21:22 |
sledges | sounds good, we just need a bit more.steering of whats the next step (ml would be great) | 21:22 |
qwazix | next step is a list of all components, and then the dependency tree | 21:23 |
qwazix | and then start a table, of the style component name | spec | implementation | | 21:24 |
qwazix | so that we can tick away what's completed | 21:24 |
faenil | yep | 21:25 |
sledges | nice, thanks | 21:33 |
sledges | faenil, what did your research yield ? | 21:35 |
faenil | sledges which one? | 21:38 |
sledges | research and plan components | 21:40 |
faenil | well I read lots of documentations about components | 21:41 |
faenil | also read codes of tizen components | 21:41 |
faenil | (and I think we should base on their work) | 21:41 |
faenil | and talked to the Qt tizen guys, but it would take a while to type on phone the things we talked about :) | 21:42 |
faenil | but basically first step we have to create a working repo with the same structure | 21:43 |
faenil | and qml plugins etc | 21:43 |
sledges | they have their comp repos, worth looking at then | 21:43 |
faenil | so that we only have to write the qmlk style files | 21:44 |
faenil | sledges, yes, we should base off that | 21:44 |
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faenil | once repo is setup and working, write style files and enjoy :) | 21:45 |
faenil | we'll need to add few components | 21:45 |
faenil | like the tab dock, a switch, busy indicator | 21:45 |
faenil | and few more | 21:45 |
faenil | also the current qtquickcontrols only expose graphics modification via editing the style files | 21:46 |
faenil | while we may want to modify components behaviours as well | 21:46 |
faenil | in that case we'll also have to modify the components themselves | 21:47 |
faenil | basically creating a modified qtquickcontrols (which is what Qt tizen guys did as well) | 21:47 |
faenil | sledges any thoughts? | 21:48 |
Sage | ok time for sleep, ping me guys tomorrow about the patterns when the obs avalance stops | 21:49 |
faenil | night sage | 21:50 |
faenil | alright, sledges is probably sleeping xD so good night guys ;) | 21:54 |
sledges | agree with ending up modifying qtquickcontrols, talked this over with w00t some time ago | 21:55 |
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sledges | and great info that theres some sort of intrinsic components repo structure that we'll reference from qtizen guys | 21:55 |
faenil | yup :) | 21:56 |
sledges | looking forward to more details, so somebody could action it | 21:56 |
sledges | ml? :D | 21:56 |
faenil | also discussed with them and they tatget silica compatibility :P | 21:57 |
sledges | :D | 21:57 |
sledges | oh happy days for Superpelican :)) | 21:57 |
faenil | why? | 21:57 |
sledges | he always wanted it | 21:57 |
faenil | ah :) | 21:57 |
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sledges | but Hurrian had his thoughts :P | 21:58 |
sledges | more read on grog | 21:58 |
faenil | :) | 21:58 |
faenil | anyway, good night ppl :P looking forward to seeing how nemo will evolve in the next few months :) | 21:58 |
sledges | lets hope for good fuelling :) | 21:59 |
sledges | buonanotte! | 21:59 |
faenil | yup :) notte! | 21:59 |
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jiok | Hi, is there a way to install components from nemo in desktop? | 23:20 |
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