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| niqt | morning | 06:50 |
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| locusf | morning | 07:07 |
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| niqt | is possible to create raw image file with rnd ks file? | 07:18 |
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| RzR | hi | 09:41 |
| Anssi|| | o/ | 09:46 |
| mric_ | hi | 09:51 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | hi RzR, Anssi|| and mric_ :) | 10:01 |
| mric_ | Sfiest_Konstantin, how is development going with friends ? | 10:04 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | mric_: you managed to misspell my nick and I did not got underlined :D | 10:11 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | mric_: how is dev? | 10:11 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it is nice | 10:11 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but right now I'm having fun with making a language translator | 10:11 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | (computer language) | 10:11 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | a sort of "compiler" let's say | 10:11 |
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| mric_ | Sfiet_Konstantin, ok sounds fun and complicated | 10:14 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it is ok | 10:14 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | complicated though | 10:14 |
| Anssi|| | Sfiet_Konstantin, using google apis? | 10:19 |
| Anssi|| | we made one language translator some time ago. | 10:19 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Anssi||: from C-+ to C++ :D | 10:21 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Anssi||: https://sfietkonstantin.wordpress.com/2013/08/18/thoughts-and-experiments-c/ | 10:22 |
| Anssi|| | sphinks? | 10:22 |
| Anssi|| | lets see | 10:22 |
| Anssi|| | Ah, ok :) | 10:25 |
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| mric_ | locusf, Hey I have just seen your video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Js9BePSwPKs where did you get this image of nemo | 10:44 |
| mric_ | ? | 10:44 |
| stephg | mric_, he's been making them | 10:52 |
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| mric_ | stephg, ok do you know where I could find the last image of Nemo under wayland ? I'm trying to update the wiki page about the wayland status: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Wayland_status_matrix | 10:54 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | mric_: need to ping faenil | 10:55 |
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| stephg | he posted a dropbox link a few days ago of an image | 10:55 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | mric_: maybe there are also in ml archive | 10:55 |
| stephg | but it wasn't as functional as that was | 10:55 |
| stephg | (in the video) | 10:55 |
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| mric_ | Sfiet_Konstantin, Stephg, thanks I will ping faenil tonight | 10:56 |
| sledges | mric_, build your own? https://github.com/faenil/NemoWaylandKickstart/blob/master/nemo-armv7hl-n950-rnd.ks | 11:02 |
| sledges | kimju, no .ks for that beagle, just a resurrected repo from COBS | 11:03 |
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| sledges | i just saved it, original maintainer: bfederau | 11:04 |
| sledges | ah, he's on #mer | 11:05 |
| sledges | niqt, just ignore those packages for now | 11:05 |
| mric_ | sledges, could you help me building it tonight ? | 11:05 |
| sledges | if you need wl connectivity, you'll be able to trace needed packages from n900 x11/qt4 repos via patterns | 11:05 |
| sledges | mric_, i can build it now | 11:05 |
| sledges | :) | 11:05 |
| sledges | and tell how it went, but i don't have n9xx here :{ | 11:06 |
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| niqt | ok | 11:06 |
| mric_ | sledges, ok even better :) | 11:06 |
| sledges | so i will upload it, and hope for the best | 11:06 |
| niqt | i'm build the image | 11:06 |
| sledges | but it can be very broken | 11:06 |
| niqt | but tonight i'll try it (n900+wayland) | 11:06 |
| sledges | n950+wayland is in a very hacky state atm | 11:07 |
| sledges | where active developers ( locusf and faenil ) have so many hacks in place of their devices | 11:07 |
| sledges | to make them work nice | 11:07 |
| mric_ | sledges, right now the only thing really working is the calculator and the possiblity to reviece phone calls. | 11:07 |
| sledges | that it will take time for them to be polished and land to the KS files | 11:07 |
| mric_ | sledges, ok ... | 11:08 |
| sledges | so always better to ping them for status (and also kick a$$ so they push their hacks for us to test ;D ) | 11:08 |
| mric_ | sldges, btw in my image I don't a terminal which is quite annoying | 11:08 |
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| sledges | just saying, you're doing great :) keep pinging them and the wiki matrix will flourish :) | 11:08 |
| sledges | mric_, no fingerterm ? just install it | 11:08 |
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| sledges | do you have other apps there? | 11:09 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I need to resurrect my N950 I guess | 11:09 |
| sledges | \o/ | 11:09 |
| mric_ | sledges, yeah fingerterm is there but not usable ;) | 11:09 |
| sledges | :} | 11:10 |
| sledges | no? | 11:10 |
| sledges | means some hacks still missing :)) | 11:10 |
| mric_ | sledges, I think fingerterm itself is working fine but it is half on the screen and the other half is out | 11:10 |
| mric_ | it's more a graphic problem | 11:11 |
| sledges | orientation prolly..? | 11:11 |
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| mric_ | sledges, yeah, on my image nemo is stuck in landscape mode and I think that fingerterm is in portrait mode creating a little problem | 11:12 |
| mric_ | just got it to work :) | 11:13 |
| sledges | ? | 11:13 |
| sledges | :) | 11:13 |
| mric_ | you need to lock the screen then unlock it directly on the app | 11:13 |
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| mric_ | sledges, see you ... btw if you are bored feel free to update: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Wayland_status_matrix | 11:19 |
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| sledges | i wish i was bored and i wish a had my working n9 :} | 11:19 |
| kimju | sledges, ok, I'll try to make one myself then | 11:22 |
| sledges | kimju, ask him on #mer | 11:22 |
| kimju | sledges, I try, but he has been idle for a while. | 11:24 |
| sledges | fair enough | 11:24 |
| sledges | kimju, do you know | 11:24 |
| sledges | that 3 diff beagle boards | 11:25 |
| sledges | use 3 different chipsets? | 11:25 |
| kimju | sledges, yes. and I just got couple of xm's in addition to older beagles | 11:26 |
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| sledges | and that repo is for...? pls remind me :) | 11:29 |
| sledges | i think BB Rev C4 and for xM | 11:30 |
| kimju | sledges, at least there is adaptation-xm kernel package | 11:30 |
| sledges | ok | 11:30 |
| kimju | and you said in june that it's for xm :D | 11:31 |
| Hurrian | hey, guys. | 11:31 |
| sledges | hya! | 11:31 |
| sledges | kimju, thanks for refreshing :)) true | 11:31 |
| Hurrian | so, microsoft practically bought Nokia. | 11:31 |
| Hurrian | lol. | 11:31 |
| sledges | Hurrian, #jollamobile is having a hot discussion on this now :)) | 11:32 |
| Hurrian | is Microsoft finally deciding to do an Xbox Phone? | 11:33 |
| Hurrian | smells like it - copying after Apple. | 11:33 |
| sledges | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Community_Workspace look at BeagleBoard resources | 11:38 |
| sledges | you might piece together some nice .ks from the past | 11:38 |
| sledges | also worth checking existing other repos (from harbaum ) | 11:38 |
| sledges | take my words back, harbaum repo died with COBS :) | 11:39 |
| sledges | so just check the .ks | 11:39 |
| sledges | http://bug10738.openaos.org/images/beagleboard/ | 11:39 |
| sledges | mind its soft-float armv7l | 11:39 |
| sledges | kimju, ^ | 11:39 |
| kimju | ok, I'll check. thanks | 11:42 |
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| situ | Anyone runs Nemo on Nexus 4 here ? | 11:52 |
| sledges | kimju, you can learn how to create bare images (and generate kickstarts): https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Creating_Releases#Images | 11:54 |
| sledges | also you need to decide now | 11:54 |
| sledges | are you going first for mer-only (recommended) | 11:54 |
| sledges | or already with nemo | 11:54 |
| sledges | situ, nearing the top of my TODO list | 11:54 |
| sledges | we had attempts to run mer kernel there, but failed so far | 11:55 |
| sledges | i'm soldering a audio-UART cable for n4 | 11:55 |
| sledges | easier to debug | 11:55 |
| situ | ohh I thought you already support Nexus 4. | 11:55 |
| sledges | Stskeeps would be happy to help with libhybris there | 11:55 |
| sledges | situ, to name things more correctly: we have nemo running on n7 | 11:56 |
| situ | Was just wondering if I could use Nemo on Nexus 4 as my primary phone. | 11:56 |
| sledges | no | 11:56 |
| sledges | :D | 11:56 |
| sledges | sorry to take the wind out of your sails :)) | 11:56 |
| sledges | but nemo is far from daily phone OS | 11:56 |
| situ | How good is call support for other models ? | 11:56 |
| sledges | because is now under heavy development transition to wayland | 11:56 |
| alterego | Does anyone still get crackling from the speaker after an audio event? | 11:57 |
| sledges | situ, alterego , what hardware do you mean? | 11:57 |
| alterego | N950 | 11:57 |
| situ | sledges: So let's say N900 | 11:59 |
| sledges | situ, https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Status/Matrix | 11:59 |
| sledges | situ, but this for x11/qt4 image which is not maintained anymore | 12:00 |
| sledges | you can download it, but you won't get fixes for those | 12:00 |
| sledges | nemo took a leap, and will take some time to arrive to a workable wayland/qt5 state | 12:00 |
| sledges | if you're an enthusiast, you can have wayland image on | 12:00 |
| sledges | and try to receive calls | 12:00 |
| sledges | even if you need to pick them up via command line :) | 12:01 |
| sledges | https://twitter.com/locusf/status/372091926474141696 | 12:01 |
| sledges | and then define your "daily phone" vision | 12:01 |
| sledges | and contribute to that | 12:01 |
| sledges | (by testing, poking developers around here, getting involved yourself) | 12:01 |
| sledges | that's the way(land) now :D | 12:01 |
| sledges | and we'll arrive there ;) cherry-topped with an awesome glacier/breeze UI ;) | 12:02 |
| sledges | in the near future | 12:02 |
| sledges | essentially, everyone's help will bring the vision closer | 12:03 |
| situ | Roger that :) | 12:03 |
| sledges | ;) | 12:03 |
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| locusf | calls work both way btw | 12:04 |
| sledges | yay \o/ | 12:04 |
| sledges | daily phone it is then ;D | 12:04 |
| locusf | just no ringtone :p | 12:05 |
| sledges | situ, you need to follow niqt , he's making a kickstart file for n900 . but remember it's an old hw | 12:05 |
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| sledges | :))) | 12:05 |
| sledges | putting nemo on n4 sounds really tempting | 12:05 |
| * sledges glances on n4 on a table | 12:05 | |
| dm8tbr | yes! | 12:06 |
| sledges | 8)) | 12:06 |
| sledges | right, the n4 crew is (chronologically): dm8tbr , me , zmc , and now situ ;) | 12:06 |
| sledges | come aboard pirates :D | 12:06 |
| dm8tbr | arrrr | 12:07 |
| alterego | pa config is such a mess. | 12:07 |
| locusf | hmm could also be that the ringtones just aren't there and I don't know how to configure them | 12:08 |
| situ | sledges: Anyways even if I buy, I will buy N4 in couple of months. | 12:08 |
| sledges | ok | 12:09 |
| situ | I hope it would be at least bootable by then. | 12:09 |
| sledges | aye aye sir :DDD | 12:09 |
| sledges | situ, in bit over than couple of months jolla phone is out ;P | 12:09 |
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| situ | Yeah, but i don't know when would it be avaialbel in India. | 12:09 |
| situ | Also not sure how would they handle customer support requests. | 12:11 |
| sledges | Jolla is available in india | 12:11 |
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| sledges | but i might confuse early phone pre-orders vs ODM/carrier contracting | 12:12 |
| sledges | hence the timescales.. | 12:12 |
| sledges | w00t, could you create empty nemo:devel:mw qtquickcontrols so we can then webhook it? | 12:17 |
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| sledges | i'll then update the pattern | 12:18 |
| sledges | and test | 12:19 |
| locusf | I'll do it | 12:20 |
| locusf | repourl? | 12:20 |
| locusf | ah empty package | 12:21 |
| sledges | locusf, first the package needs to be created on BMO | 12:21 |
| locusf | yeah | 12:21 |
| locusf | and you got webhook already | 12:21 |
| sledges | yes, will need only to redirect it minimally | 12:21 |
| sledges | Sage could also do it... | 12:22 |
| sledges | sadly no-one else is in charge: https://build.merproject.org/project/users?project=nemo%3Adevel%3Amw | 12:22 |
| sledges | so all a bit stagnant now | 12:22 |
| sledges | Stskeeps, ? ;) | 12:22 |
| Stskeeps | travellin too | 12:22 |
| sledges | we'll have lots of patterns to define for n9xx wayland images | 12:22 |
| sledges | where too? ;) | 12:22 |
| Stskeeps | HEL(l) | 12:23 |
| sledges | :D | 12:23 |
| sledges | Ham Electronics League? | 12:23 |
| sledges | :D | 12:23 |
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| Mric_ | sledges, did you had time to make the image ? | 13:19 |
| * sledges hides | 13:20 | |
| sledges | :) | 13:20 |
| sledges | will do soon | 13:20 |
| Mric_ | sledges, hehe np :) Is it possible to build an image under Windows ? | 13:21 |
| sledges | we need people like you, with good kicking abilities :D | 13:21 |
| sledges | erm no.. | 13:21 |
| sledges | you need mersdk | 13:21 |
| sledges | could try luck via sailfish sdk but i never tried | 13:21 |
| Mric_ | sledges, ok I'm going to ask on #mer | 13:24 |
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| sledges | Mric_, did you try zypper ref/dup in your n950 instead? | 13:28 |
| Mric_ | sledges, well wifi is curently broken .... | 13:29 |
| sledges | understood :) | 13:30 |
| Mric_ | sledges, currently downloading sialfsh sdk but ping me when the image is ready ;) | 13:32 |
| sledges | ;) hope it uploads itself fast as well :) | 13:33 |
| Mric_ | sledges, yeah can't wait to test it | 13:35 |
| Mric_ | faenil, did you fixed the orientation problem under wayland ? | 13:35 |
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| mric___ | sledges, I'm running sailfish sdk :) and according to the guys in #mer I should be able to build a nemo image. Do you have any time to help me build my first image ? | 13:44 |
| sledges | mric___, is just two commands | 13:44 |
| sledges | check if you have mic tool | 13:44 |
| sledges | under sailfish sdk command line (when you find one ;)) | 13:45 |
| sledges | mric___, https://www.dropbox.com/s/d1alps0t784e6q5/nemo-armv7hl-n950-rnd-20130903.tar.bz2 | 13:45 |
| sledges | ;P | 13:45 |
| mric___ | sledges, ok it that already the image ? | 13:46 |
| sledges | yes | 13:46 |
| mric___ | sledges, nice :) | 13:48 |
| sledges | fingers cross(compil)ed | 13:49 |
| sledges | :) | 13:49 |
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| locusf | mric___: the video is not about image, its just conjured with a hack | 14:11 |
| * sledges ^ what he said | 14:11 | |
| sledges | :) | 14:11 |
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| mric___ | sledges, haah | 14:13 |
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| alterego | Wow, so MS bought Nokia mobile phones unit .. | 14:39 |
| Stskeeps | inded | 14:39 |
| Stskeeps | +e | 14:39 |
| alterego | Well I didn't see that coming ... heh | 14:39 |
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