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| Merbot | phaeron lbt sage SR#388 waiting for review at https://build.merproject.org//request/show/388 | 07:21 |
| plundstr_ | phaeron: sage: Had to make old style promotion because bme does not have git | 07:24 |
| plundstr_ | https://build.merproject.org/request/show/388 | 07:24 |
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| Guest36005 | Hi, all. Are there any working Nemo image for virtualbox? I download nemo-i586-vm and nemo-i486-vm from http://releases.nemomobile.org/releases/0.20130620.0.1/images/ , but after boot in virtualbox, I got black X screen only. | 09:07 |
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| sledges | norming | 09:19 |
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| sledges | Guest36005, grep flags /proc/cpuinfo | grep -i ssse | 09:20 |
| sledges | also don't forget System->Processor->Extended Features: Check 'Enable PAE/NX' | 09:21 |
| sledges | (i'm talking from https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing#VirtualBox ) | 09:21 |
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| Guest36005 | sledges: thank you, I'll check | 09:30 |
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| sledges | have fun :) | 09:33 |
| lbt | who broke nemo ? | 09:36 |
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| sledges | buys a pint for everyone | 09:38 |
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| Guest36005 | sledges: oh, the 486 image run successful on my athlon machine | 09:39 |
| Guest36005 | :D | 09:40 |
| sledges | good, 486 is always an option for now when going vm | 09:40 |
| Anssi^ | how can i add nameserver in mer, just add it resolv.conf? | 09:41 |
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| faenil | o/ | 09:43 |
| Anssi^ | \o | 09:43 |
| faenil | morning :) | 09:43 |
| Khertan_n9 | hello, Which qml components are available today on Nemo ? | 09:43 |
| sledges | \o! | 09:43 |
| faenil | Khertan_n9, what do you mean? components sets? | 09:45 |
| Khertan_n9 | yep | 09:46 |
| faenil | Khertan_n9, only com.nokia.meego, ported to Qt5 | 09:46 |
| faenil | QQ2 | 09:46 |
| Guest36005 | faenil: I know that you are working on a wayland version nemo, are there any image for download? | 09:46 |
| Khertan_n9 | faenil: it s already a good things | 09:47 |
| faenil | Guest36005, not yet, but I can give you my current ks file so that you can create your image, which doesn't have apps, it just boots into Wayland with the Qt5 homescreen | 09:47 |
| faenil | (which is in very early stages) | 09:47 |
| Khertan_n9 | image from June for n950 still use qt4 right ? | 09:48 |
| Guest36005 | faenil: great, this is what I want | 09:48 |
| faenil | Khertan_n9, yes only wayland work on Nemo is the one I'm doing at the moment afaik, which is on VM, as suggested by Stskeeps, as we avoid adaptation issues there | 09:48 |
| faenil | Guest36005, alright :) do you have a nickname? or are you guest? :D | 09:49 |
| Guest36005 | I'm a guest :p | 09:49 |
| faenil | Guest36005, twitter handle? something? :D | 09:49 |
| faenil | just to know who I am talking to, you know :) | 09:49 |
| Guest36005 | faenil: email is fine: i90091e@gmail.com | 09:50 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | hello Guest36005, please don't send emails like that | 09:50 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | you are going to be spammed | 09:50 |
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| faenil | Guest36005, I don't want to name you by your email :D but doesn't matter, I'll call you "guest" :P | 09:50 |
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| Guest36005 | Sfiet_Konstantin: oh, I rarely use irc | 09:52 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | Guest36005: but this chan is logged | 09:52 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and spammer bots might grab your email from the logs, and spam | 09:52 |
| Khertan_n9_ | faenil, thx i ask as i m porting my apps to different platform without pyside :p | 09:52 |
| sledges | if dm8tbr is in a good mood today, he can delete your email off logs ;) | 09:53 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Khertan_n9_: :D | 09:53 |
| Guest36005 | Sfiet_Konstantin: what? I get it. ... | 09:53 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Khertan_n9_: is the otherside thing working ? | 09:53 |
| faenil | Khertan_n9_, :) | 09:53 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | dm8tbr: ^ delete email from log ? | 09:53 |
| Guest36005 | sledges: thank you very much | 09:53 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | in general, a rule is to never give email in IRC | 09:53 |
| sledges | Guest36005, no promises, as I said, depends if dm8tbr had his coffee yet :D | 09:55 |
| Khertan_n9_ | Sfiet_Konstantin, mine version of pyotherside, yes, khtnotes almost ported, 3s to boot, and way faster without any optimization, and none freeze of the ui :) | 09:55 |
| Guest36005 | Sfiet_Konstantin: yes, I got it now. Hope dm8tbr delete my email from log | 09:55 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | Khertan_n9_: great ! awesome | 09:55 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | do yo know if thp / you are gonna import pyotherside in mer or nemo ? | 09:56 |
| Khertan_n9__ | Sfiet_Konstantin, to the thp version i added threaded python call, with result given by a signal to qt | 09:56 |
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| faenil | Guest36005, anyway, check PM ;) | 09:56 |
| Guest36005 | faenil: thank you very much | 09:57 |
| faenil | np, let me know if you have any issues ;) | 09:57 |
| faenil | Guest36005, what do you plan doing with the Wayland image? | 09:57 |
| Guest36005 | faenil: I will try it now | 09:57 |
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| faenil | Guest36005, if you happen to have some free time, we need help porting QML apps from Nemo Qt4 to Qt5/QtQuick2 | 09:58 |
| Khertan_n9___ | import ? currently it's not a qml extension ... | 09:58 |
| Guest36005 | faenil: we want to run our embedded application on mer | 09:58 |
| faenil | Guest36005, oh ok ;) | 09:58 |
| Khertan_n9___ | Sfiet_Konstantin, it s run on my mer n950 image | 09:59 |
| Guest36005 | faenil: ;) | 09:59 |
| Khertan_n9___ | Sfiet_Konstantin, (n950 still use qt4 and x11) | 09:59 |
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| Khertan_n9___ | Sfiet_Konstantin, i m not a c expert so code should probably be cleaned a bit | 10:00 |
| Venemo_ | morning | 10:00 |
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| Khertan_n9___ | (sorry for the unstable connexion) | 10:01 |
| sledgeSim | norming! | 10:02 |
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| faenil | sledgeSim, o( | 10:03 |
| sledgeSim | looks like a one eyed sad monster :D | 10:03 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | hello Venemo_ | 10:05 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sledgeSim: where are you ? in a sim card ? | 10:05 |
| faenil | sledgeSim, (o) | 10:05 |
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| sledgeSim | lol Sfiet_Konstantin | 10:06 |
| sledgeSim | you see friends call me Sim ;) | 10:06 |
| sledgeSim | and doing some nickname unifications across accounts | 10:07 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :) | 10:07 |
| faenil | sooooooooooooo | 10:07 |
| faenil | IS THERE ANYONE WILLING TO PORT NEMO QML APPS TO Qt5? | 10:07 |
| Venemo_ | hey Sfiet_Konstantin :) | 10:07 |
| faenil | That's our current target :D | 10:07 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Venemo_: o/ | 10:07 |
| Venemo_ | hello jukkaeklund how are you? :) | 10:07 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: hum vm image ? | 10:07 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | well, I should'nt be doing that | 10:07 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I have work :/ | 10:08 |
| Khertan_n9____ | faenil, is there simple apps to port, never look yet at qt5 | 10:08 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | Khertan_n9____: well, in (very) short, Qt 5 port is more about doing QtQuick 1.1 -> QtQuick 2.0 :D | 10:09 |
| faenil | Khertan_n9____, I don't how complex the apps are, I only coded qmlgallery with help from special | 10:09 |
| sledgeSim | and you also ported qmlcalc - a good point of reference | 10:09 |
| faenil | yeah but anyway Qt5 should be easily doable, apart from corner cases | 10:09 |
| faenil | sledgeSim, yeah | 10:09 |
| sledgeSim | https://github.com/nemomobile/qmlcalc/pull/11 | 10:10 |
| Khertan_n9____ | Sfiet_Konstantin, yep that s the most time eating qml | 10:10 |
| faenil | Khertan_n9____, ^ that's qml calc I ported | 10:10 |
| Khertan_n9____ | ok ... is there a list of apps to port ? | 10:10 |
| Khertan_n9____ | faenil, thx i ll have an example to tests the tool chain | 10:11 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil, Khertan_n9____did you ever thought about writing a script like | 10:12 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | (sec) | 10:12 |
| Khertan_n9____ | script like ? | 10:12 |
| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, there is also a tool from KDAB doing automated port :) | 10:12 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-qml-plugin-social/blob/master/tests/facebooksocialtest/qt5ify.sh | 10:12 |
| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, check this out http://www.kdab.com/automated-porting-from-qt-4-to-qt-5/ | 10:12 |
| dm8tbr | Guest36005: looking | 10:15 |
| dm8tbr | Guest36005: ah, that's on mer infra, will take care of that later | 10:17 |
| Guest36005 | dm8tbr: thank you :D | 10:20 |
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| faenil | Want to know more about the current status of Nemo Wayland (and Glacier UI)? Read more here :) http://www.mail-archive.com/mer-general@lists.merproject.org/msg01302.html | 10:44 |
| Hurrian | Sfiet_Konstantin: good point - learning to get used to Qt5 before doing Home. | 10:45 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Hurrian: :) | 10:46 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Qt 5 is not hard | 10:46 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it is actually totally awesome | 10:46 |
| faenil | join the mailing list and contribute people :) | 10:48 |
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| Hurrian | Sfiet_Konstantin: actually, this'll be my first "big project" I'll contribute to ;) | 10:52 |
| diorahman | Hi faenil do you have blog post on getting started working with nemo vm? | 10:52 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Hurrian: welcome ! | 10:52 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | awesome actually | 10:52 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: WE WANT BLOG POSTS ! | 10:52 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: go setup one wordpress ! | 10:52 |
| diorahman | Yeahh | 10:52 |
| sledgeSim | xavinux has | 10:53 |
| diorahman | I do really want to get started on it | 10:53 |
| Hurrian | I feel incredibly tempted to fix the 3.5 kernel though - it's a pretty complete HW adaptation with a few major niggles | 10:53 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | Hurrian: what are your favourite topics ? | 10:54 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | more GUI or low level ? | 10:54 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | there is task for everybody in nemo, but better pick something that suits you :) | 10:54 |
| sledgeSim | oh no he removed it http://www.mail-archive.com/mer-general@lists.merproject.org/msg01192.html :( | 10:55 |
| sledgeSim | diorahman, this one for now only https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing#VirtualBox | 10:55 |
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| sledgeSim | until we resurrect the blog post :) | 10:55 |
| Hurrian | Sfiet_Konstanin: I do UI design, but writing them's a new thing for me. previously (and semi-currently), I hop around the kernel. | 10:55 |
| diorahman | Cool | 10:55 |
| Hurrian | I'll try doing some of both here and there, and then decide. | 10:56 |
| sledgeSim | s/.../oh no he removed it http://xavinux.blogspot.com.ar/2013/06/installing-nemo-i486-vm_18.html / | 10:56 |
| faenil | diorahman, the one on wiki is pretty complete ;) | 10:56 |
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| faenil | diorahman, though for Nemo Wayland you need to build the image yourself using the ks file I can provide | 10:56 |
| diorahman | faenil I'll try it out thanks | 10:56 |
| faenil | diorahman, so you want the ks? | 10:56 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Hurrian: awesome | 10:57 |
| diorahman | F | 10:57 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | that's what we need actually ! | 10:57 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | G | 10:57 |
| diorahman | faenil yes please | 10:57 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Hurrian: do you know Qt ? | 10:57 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | better start with some Qt on desktop (grab Qt SDK from qt-project.org or apt-get install qt-creator) | 10:57 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and some QML | 10:58 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | after that, we can go simu | 10:58 |
| faenil | brb ppl | 10:58 |
| Hurrian | Sfiet_Konstantin: total Qt noob. Going to install Qt Creator along with a fresh Mer SDK. | 10:58 |
| Hurrian | IIRC, MAG said that QML's a "designer's language", so I'm going to try that out as well. | 10:59 |
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| diorahman | Sfiet_Konstantin do you have something for me to work on? | 10:59 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Hurrian: yes, please try QML | 10:59 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Nemo (and Sailfish) UI is written with QML | 11:00 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | nothing else | 11:00 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Hurrian: do you know C++ | 11:00 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | diorahman: well, I don't but Nemo have :) | 11:00 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | diorahman: what do you like ? :) | 11:00 |
| diorahman | Application development | 11:01 |
| Hurrian | Sfiet_Konstantin: only C. zero experience with C++'s fancy new features. | 11:01 |
| diorahman | But I want to dive down the system :-) | 11:01 |
| faenil | back | 11:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Hurrian: it is not fancy and new, just different | 11:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: wb | 11:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Hurrian: hum don't know ... maybe you should start with C++, or QML | 11:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | since basic QML don't need C++ knowledge | 11:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | diorahman: know C++ / QML ? | 11:02 |
| faenil | Hurrian, I'd avoid studying stuff related to QtWidgets, as that's going away | 11:03 |
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| diorahman | Sfiet_Konstantin yes | 11:03 |
| Hurrian | mmm. So, QML and QtQuickComponents? | 11:03 |
| diorahman | faenil the link is broken? | 11:03 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | diorahman: awesome :) | 11:04 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | diorahman: Qt 5 ? | 11:04 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | diorahman: the best might be to start porting all the nemo apps to Qt5 | 11:04 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and then, we are gonna organize | 11:04 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | thanks to faenil's work, the Qt 5 + WL virtualbox image is working nicely | 11:04 |
| faenil | diorahman, you have a new one ;) | 11:04 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | that serves as a basis | 11:04 |
| kulve | is there already a Digg Reader for Nemo/Sailfish? That's something I'm going to need when the phones hit the shelves :) | 11:04 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | kulve: feel free to dev one | 11:04 |
| kulve | I was just suggesting something to develop, if one is interested in application development :) | 11:05 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | diorahman: all these musicshelf, qmlfilemuncher etc. need to be first ported to Qt5 | 11:05 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | we will give them love after, when glacier components are out | 11:05 |
| diorahman | I got a free n9 from nokia http://qt-project.org/wiki/LinuxTag-2012-App-Contest | 11:05 |
| diorahman | Ok | 11:05 |
| diorahman | Need to work on the new vm first? | 11:06 |
| faenil | yep | 11:06 |
| diorahman | faenil allright I'm on mobile right now. Will do after I meet my workstation | 11:08 |
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| faenil | diorahman, alright | 11:09 |
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| diorahman | faenil thx! I'll ask so many questions! Please bear with me haha | 11:13 |
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| faenil | diorahman, don't worry, ask Stskeeps w00t or special how many questions I ask them :D | 11:13 |
| faenil | eheheh | 11:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: that's called transition of knowledge | 11:15 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | suddenly you are replying instead of asking | 11:16 |
| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, :) | 11:16 |
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| faenil | so, anyone who wants to start porting core apps to qt5? :) | 11:58 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: I want | 12:00 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but will is not enogh | 12:00 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | the second important factor is time :P | 12:00 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | maybe tonidhg | 12:00 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | t | 12:00 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | or maybe i'm gonna do some slides | 12:00 |
| faenil | :) | 12:01 |
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| faenil | special, is qmlmessages port done, or does it need work? | 12:19 |
| faenil | (I'm writing a matrix on wiki to show current status) | 12:19 |
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| sledgeSim | strange, i just mic cr a standard i486-vm and when launching it and zypper dup offered more updated packages | 12:43 |
| sledgeSim | (all .ks and env is latest rnd:devel) | 12:43 |
| sledgeSim | btw, qmlcalc and fingerterm et al already ported apps no longer work on old nemo if zypper dupped ;) | 12:47 |
| faenil | sledgeSim, I see, we decided to take the leap ( special, w00t ^ ) | 12:48 |
| sledgeSim | yup ;) nemo has entered transitory period ;) | 12:49 |
| faenil | :) | 12:49 |
| * sledgeSim will try to port flicker-qml to qt5 | 12:52 | |
| sledgeSim | flickr lol | 12:52 |
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| sledgeSim | hm nemo is not upstream there.. | 12:55 |
| sledgeSim | and is a year old lol | 12:56 |
| locusf | is there a wayland image for Nemo now? | 12:56 |
| sledgeSim | yes, using it now | 12:56 |
| sledgeSim | but available only directly from faenil for the time being ;) | 12:56 |
| locusf | where? | 12:56 |
| locusf | ah | 12:56 |
| * sledgeSim takes qmlcalendar ; wish me luck | 12:57 | |
| locusf | if you guys need any testing help, I've got an N9 as my devel device | 12:57 |
| * sledgeSim (mushroom cloud) | 12:57 | |
| sledgeSim | locusf, wayland is only for vm atm | 12:57 |
| locusf | ok | 12:57 |
| sledgeSim | n9(50) wayland has been hacked together, but needs stabilising/optimising | 12:58 |
| sledgeSim | will be glad if you can help | 12:58 |
| faenil | bbl, lunch | 12:58 |
| locusf | sure | 12:58 |
| locusf | and vm too if needed :) | 12:58 |
| locusf | if its just the two of you I guess all help will be needed :D | 12:59 |
| sledgeSim | it's a handful of us, and still way more on todo list ;) | 12:59 |
| sledgeSim | extra pair of hands always handy lol | 12:59 |
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| locusf | downloading vm | 13:18 |
| locusf | http://releases.nemomobile.org/releases/latest/images/nemo-i586-vm/ <- from here I mean | 13:20 |
| sledgeSim | i486 is compatible with more PC hosts | 13:22 |
| sledgeSim | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing#VirtualBox | 13:22 |
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| locusf | /tmp/sysimage/di is not a subvolume, while installing | 13:24 |
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| sledgeSim | locusf, are you doing this via ssh? | 13:26 |
| sledgeSim | iirc best is HostKey+F2 root:nemo and install it from there | 13:26 |
| locusf | sledgeSim: nope, via Virtualbox GUI and fingerterm | 13:26 |
| locusf | ah | 13:26 |
| sledgeSim | https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=680 ;) | 13:27 |
| Merbot | Nemo bug 680 in Terminal "installer-shell fails under FingerTerm" [Major,New] | 13:27 |
| locusf | ah | 13:27 |
| sledgeSim | thanks for reminding, will add this to wiki | 13:27 |
| locusf | its already there | 13:27 |
| locusf | I'm just daft :p | 13:27 |
| sledgeSim | hmmm | 13:27 |
| sledgeSim | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing#Finalizing_the_installation | 13:27 |
| sledgeSim | lol | 13:27 |
| sledgeSim | ;) | 13:27 |
| sledgeSim | false alarm ;P | 13:27 |
| sledgeSim | i like their last song by daft punk though | 13:28 |
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| faenil | back :) | 13:47 |
| Morpog_PC | faenil, does it feel more fluid in virtualbox, now that its running on wayland? | 13:50 |
| faenil | Morpog_PC, I can't say :/ I think it's not a big boost because it's not using direct rendering yet, but it's not bad | 13:51 |
| Morpog_PC | could give a hint how it will run later on real HW like N9 | 13:51 |
| faenil | locusf, the released vm image isn't wayland | 13:51 |
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| sledgeSim | Morpog_PC: [qt5 port] 10:54 < Khertan_n9_> Sfiet_Konstantin, mine version of pyotherside, yes, khtnotes almost ported, 3s to boot, and way faster without any optimization, and none freeze of the ui :) | 13:53 |
| faenil | Morpog_PC, well w00t himself said that the n9/n950 module is still WIP, so don't expect high performance there | 13:53 |
| sledgeSim | that's qt5 alone already boosts | 13:53 |
| locusf | faenil: yes I figured as much | 13:53 |
| faenil | locusf, ok | 13:54 |
| Morpog_PC | wtf 3second to boot? sounds like miracles compared to harmattan boot time :D | 13:54 |
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| sledgeSim | i think he meant an app | 13:54 |
| faenil | Morpog_PC, Sfiet_Konstantin was probably referring to a barebone system | 13:54 |
| faenil | oh yeah maybe | 13:54 |
| faenil | I also remember him saying the system booted in 3 secs though | 13:55 |
| Morpog_PC | well 3s wouldn't be impressive then | 13:55 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: 6 | 13:55 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | on the iconia tab | 13:55 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | actually 6 was the fastest | 13:55 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I got 10s in average | 13:55 |
| Morpog_PC | with or without POST? | 13:55 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | POST ? | 13:55 |
| Morpog_PC | power on self test | 13:55 |
| Morpog_PC | checking ram, init stuff, etc. | 13:56 |
| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, ok | 13:56 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I don't know if it checked ram etc | 13:56 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but from the button press | 13:56 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | to the locked homescreen | 13:56 |
| Morpog_PC | thats with POST | 13:56 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it was 6-10s | 13:56 |
| Morpog_PC | impressive | 13:56 |
| Morpog_PC | is that still a legacy bios or uefi? | 13:57 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but beware it is an iconia tab, x86 GPU | 13:57 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | etc. | 13:57 |
| sledgeSim | our company used to do subsecond boots | 13:57 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Bios | 13:57 |
| sledgeSim | to qt framebuffer | 13:57 |
| Morpog_PC | then it's impressive | 13:57 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sledgeSim: :O | 13:57 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | well, any daemons, themes etc | 13:57 |
| sledgeSim | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpSPSK990zk | 13:58 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | yep | 14:00 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | this one is fast | 14:00 |
| Morpog_PC | unbelievable :) | 14:00 |
| sledgeSim | but who needs fast boot on a mobile phone? | 14:00 |
| sledgeSim | you don't restart it ;) | 14:00 |
| Morpog_PC | well from time to time I do | 14:00 |
| Morpog_PC | it doesn't need to be that fast, but please not as ages taking as on harmattan :) | 14:01 |
| sledgeSim | fair point :) | 14:01 |
| Hurrian | Morpog_PC: Nemo comes pretty close ;) | 14:01 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | how fast is nemo ? | 14:02 |
| Superpelican | well N900 needs to be restarted pretty often | 14:02 |
| Superpelican | or use Optimize N900 | 14:02 |
| Superpelican | but yeah | 14:02 |
| Superpelican | that's mostly because Opera Mobile eats a lot of RAM | 14:03 |
| faenil | Dear people | 14:03 |
| Hurrian | Sfiet_Konstantin: typical boot times on the N9 run at about 8 seconds | 14:03 |
| faenil | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Qt5PortingCoreApps | 14:03 |
| Superpelican | when only using MicroB I can use it for ages without Optimize N900 or reboots | 14:03 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | good | 14:03 |
| faenil | Anyone who wants to start porting nemo core apps to Qt5? | 14:04 |
| * Superpelican wishes for the 101st time he had a N9 | 14:04 | |
| sledgeSim | im on qmlcalendar faenil | 14:04 |
| faenil | sledgeSim, great | 14:05 |
| * faenil updates matrix | 14:05 | |
| Morpog_PC | faenil, I would try, but I'm sure I would need to ask you so much stuff, that you could do it by yourself faster :) | 14:05 |
| locusf | how do I test Qt5? | 14:05 |
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| locusf | so that I could see that it works | 14:05 |
| locusf | I have some experience with QML/Qt | 14:06 |
| Hurrian | oh, yeah, what does anyone here suggest for a bootscreen? | 14:06 |
| sledgeSim | faenil, are you using [Show RichTextEditor] for editing matrices? ;) | 14:06 |
| Hurrian | little tidbit, but not having one kinda makes it look like it's doing nothing | 14:06 |
| faenil | sledgeSim, nope :D | 14:06 |
| sledgeSim | Hurrian, same like shutdown screen ? | 14:06 |
| Hurrian | sledgeSim: how's that drawn? | 14:07 |
| sledgeSim | qml | 14:07 |
| Morpog_PC | maybe a bit animated | 14:07 |
| faenil | We already have that Nemo bootscreen? | 14:07 |
| faenil | locusf, you want to start with Wayland Nemo? | 14:07 |
| sledgeSim | https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=566387876743524&set=a.227579247291057.52420.167635999952049&type=1&theater | 14:08 |
| sledgeSim | it's from withing lipstick qml (shutdown screen) | 14:08 |
| sledgeSim | i never got round to make it orientation aware ;) | 14:08 |
| sledgeSim | so icons are rotating as it starts shutting :) | 14:08 |
| sledgeSim | Hurrian, ^ | 14:08 |
| sledgeSim | but boot (splash) screen is a .service, it comes way before graphics is initialised | 14:09 |
| sledgeSim | and shows a simple graphics file instead | 14:09 |
| sledgeSim | which due to hw bug on n9(50) becomes palette-distorted yellow | 14:09 |
| sledgeSim | i think the bug can be fixed | 14:10 |
| Hurrian | I assume SGX driver doesn't do kernel mode setting? | 14:10 |
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| locusf | faenil: yeah, that too but if Qt5 porting is more needed then I could do that as well | 14:10 |
| faenil | locusf, well, I think you should test the port on Nemo Wayland VM :) | 14:11 |
| locusf | ok | 14:11 |
| Hurrian | sledgeSim: didn't Nemo use Plymouth before? | 14:11 |
| sledgeSim | Hurrian, yes service is called plymouth | 14:11 |
| sledgeSim | locusf, i currently got two VMs open - one simple nemo, the other wayland | 14:11 |
| sledgeSim | and just built qmlcalendar locally | 14:12 |
| Hurrian | sledgeSim: and it's broken on the current nemo images, or simply removed? | 14:12 |
| sledgeSim | then modifying that source code starts, rebuilds, and when all done, it should stop working on plain nemo vm | 14:12 |
| sledgeSim | and start working on wayland vm, after deploying :) | 14:12 |
| locusf | sledgeSim: ok, are you using Qt creator or just manually? | 14:12 |
| sledgeSim | locusf, qtcreator does not work with nemo apps :( | 14:13 |
| sledgeSim | im using command line compile | 14:13 |
| sledgeSim | more than enough | 14:13 |
| locusf | ok | 14:13 |
| sledgeSim | tool called mb | 14:13 |
| sledgeSim | from Mer Platform SDK | 14:13 |
| sledgeSim | can guide you how to setup dev env | 14:13 |
| sledgeSim | Hurrian, it's still used | 14:13 |
| sledgeSim | in wayland vm image i still see the splash logo | 14:14 |
| locusf | I was just using Qt Creator to see whats to be done with qmlmaps, it works ok when using N9 running nemo | 14:14 |
| Hurrian | mmm. but it's missing on n9. must be a bug. | 14:14 |
| sledgeSim | yes, it has been disabled on phones, you are right | 14:14 |
| sledgeSim | i think because of that yellow distortion | 14:14 |
| sledgeSim | can be placed back anytime (got disabled not too many months ago) | 14:15 |
| sledgeSim | funny enough it does not distort on the very first boot iirc | 14:15 |
| sledgeSim | due to (oneshot~iirc) hacks they do (in .ks) | 14:15 |
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| sledgeSim | just check for plymouth in n950 .ks | 14:15 |
| sledgeSim | hopefully still there, if not, i have backups | 14:16 |
| faenil | locusf, but N9 is running x11 nemo | 14:17 |
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| locusf | faenil: yes I know, I was just playing with the Qt4 version of qmlmaps | 14:18 |
| faenil | locusf, oh ok ;) | 14:18 |
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| faenil | gosh, I hate writing, I have to write the setup process for Nemo Wayland VM image XD | 14:24 |
| faenil | locusf, just let me know when you want to make the jump :) | 14:28 |
| locusf | ok lets do it now | 14:28 |
| locusf | I was just playing to figure out if Qt creator can use Nemo VM as remote target | 14:28 |
| locusf | it can if the compiler builds 32-bit executables | 14:28 |
| faenil | locusf, well it's ok to do it later as well, when the public tutorial is ready ;) your wish | 14:29 |
| locusf | well ok I'll wait for the public tutorial, no rush | 14:29 |
| faenil | ok | 14:29 |
| sledgeSim | locusf, if you read #mer, you'll see my last suffering with images as targets :P | 14:31 |
| sledgeSim | creating target from scratch proved to be way more painless | 14:32 |
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| locusf | ah ok | 14:32 |
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| rcg | Sage, I filed a sr today but it seems to be stuck for some reason | 14:41 |
| rcg | https://build.merproject.org/request/show/386 | 14:41 |
| rcg | ah, nevermind | 14:41 |
| rcg | it's waiting for other build jobs | 14:41 |
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| rcg | strange it shows succeeded, though | 14:42 |
| juiceme | Hurrian, hi :) | 14:43 |
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| juiceme | Hurrian, Yes, go for it. What kind of boot loadear are you thinkin of? | 14:44 |
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| Morpog_PC | geez faenil, why are you retweeting such old stuff? :) | 14:46 |
| faenil | Morpog_PC, debexpert tricked me | 14:47 |
| Morpog_PC | lol | 14:47 |
| faenil | he RTed it now, and I thought it was something new lol | 14:47 |
| faenil | I unRTed and RTed again XD | 14:47 |
| faenil | then realized the fact, lol | 14:47 |
| faenil | (and was also looking forward to watching Mark's video, lol) | 14:47 |
| Morpog_PC | rofl | 14:48 |
| cybette | faenil: marc's mwc tweet? | 14:48 |
| faenil | cybette, yup xD | 14:48 |
| cybette | hehe | 14:48 |
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| cybette | well it was a good discussion | 14:49 |
| faenil | :) | 14:49 |
| cybette | they did it again in May in GMIC | 14:49 |
| Morpog_PC | i knda found it funny how Marc Shuttleworth tried to ignore Marc Dillon there ;) | 14:49 |
| cybette | different people from FF and Ubuntu but still Marc | 14:49 |
| cybette | Morpog_PC: haha it was so blatant | 14:50 |
| juiceme | hey, a friend who's been trying out Nemo asked me why some time ago it started failing on "zypper up", and apparently it's trying to access some repository on "repo.pub.meego.com", is that possible? | 14:50 |
| juiceme | I thought there should be nothing at all there any more... | 14:50 |
| Morpog_PC | well, he uses an old image then | 14:50 |
| juiceme | is there any way of updating the image, other than scrapping the current and loading a new one? | 14:51 |
| juiceme | I mean, setting some repos for zypper etc...? | 14:51 |
| Morpog_PC | yes, but I can't tell you. Have seen sledges or sage guiding people through the process. | 14:52 |
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| Morpog_PC | Was kinda complex. | 14:52 |
| juiceme | ah, ok. What's the current recommended image? | 14:52 |
| Morpog_PC | latest one I guess? Heard cam is broken there though. | 14:53 |
| sledgeSim | juiceme, will give you link soon | 14:54 |
| juiceme | does contacts work on it? that was broken on some image I tried sometime back... | 14:54 |
| juiceme | sledgeSim, thx | 14:54 |
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| sledgeSim | juiceme, www.mail-archive.com/mer-general@lists.merproject.org/msg01158.html | 14:56 |
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| sledgeSim | but it has been a long time ago, if anything fails, they'll have to reflash to latest image im afraid | 14:57 |
| faenil | what about just adding new repos with zypper ar? | 14:57 |
| juiceme | sledgeSim, I'll pass the avice, thanks. | 14:58 |
| Morpog_PC | Wasn't there stuff to configure for SSU feanil? | 14:58 |
| Morpog_PC | ah, yep I was right after reading the link sledgeSim posted :) | 14:59 |
| faenil | :) | 15:00 |
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| faenil | locusf, you ready? :) | 15:47 |
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| locusf | faenil: sure | 15:51 |
| faenil | locusf, tutorial coming in a few minutes | 15:51 |
| faenil | you'll be the first public tester :D so I need all your feedback and critics :P | 15:51 |
| locusf | lol :D | 15:52 |
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| faenil | locusf, https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Wayland_Nemo_VM_Image | 15:59 |
| locusf | ok, will first setup Mer SDK, had a Nemo VM though | 16:01 |
| locusf | hmm I have a Mer SDK from Sailfish, is that ok? | 16:01 |
| faenil | well, SailfishSDK uses a MerSDK inside a VM... | 16:03 |
| faenil | locusf, also, the Nemo VM you had is not useful to our task, you need a new one | 16:03 |
| locusf | faenil: ok, from the mic output vm? | 16:05 |
| faenil | locusf, you could probably reuse the SDK from Sailfish SDK, but I recommend installing a new SDK, without using a VM like sailfish does | 16:05 |
| faenil | just follow the guides as if you didn't have sailfish sdk ;) | 16:06 |
| locusf | faenil: ok | 16:06 |
| locusf | ok :) | 16:06 |
| faenil | :) | 16:09 |
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| faenil | locusf, let me know whatever you think is missing in the tutorials (details etc), as you go on ;) | 16:11 |
| locusf | faenil: sure | 16:11 |
| faenil | thanks :) | 16:11 |
| locusf | faenil: mersdk@localhost:~$ sudo mic create raw --record-pkgs=name --pkgmgr=zypp --arch=i486 nemo-i486-vm-wayland.ks --tokenmap=MER_RELEASE:latest,NEMO_RELEASE:latest,SSU_RELEASE_TYPE:rnd,FLAVOUR:devel | 16:14 |
| locusf | mic 0.13 (Mer 0.2011 Mer) | 16:14 |
| locusf | mic create(cr) raw: no such option: --tokenmap | 16:14 |
| sledgeSim | locusf, perform zypper ref; zypper dup on your mer sdk | 16:15 |
| locusf | ah ok | 16:15 |
| locusf | hmm | 16:16 |
| locusf | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_on_VirtualBox <- I was doing as this | 16:17 |
| locusf | so the image might be a tad old :p | 16:17 |
| sledgeSim | faenil's tut pointing to https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK ;) | 16:18 |
| locusf | yep | 16:18 |
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| faenil | locusf, no wait | 16:19 |
| faenil | that's the command I use | 16:19 |
| sledgeSim | faenil, his mer sdk wasn't done up | 16:20 |
| faenil | sledgeSim, but he just downloaded latest mersdk (right locusf ?) | 16:20 |
| locusf | latest VirtualBox MerSDK | 16:20 |
| locusf | latest as in repo.meego.com old MerSDK :p | 16:20 |
| faenil | locusf, where did you get it from? | 16:21 |
| locusf | faenil: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_on_VirtualBox#Prepare_Image | 16:22 |
| locusf | you guys need to update that image :p | 16:22 |
| faenil | locusf, I don't remember linking to that image... | 16:22 |
| locusf | faenil: yup I had it open from earlier | 16:22 |
| faenil | locusf, oh ok...please follow the tutorial XD | 16:23 |
| sledgeSim | ported: clean up needed ;) http://i1260.photobucket.com/albums/ii567/sledgas/mer/nemo/qmlcalendar-qt5_zps004a5ecf.png | 16:23 |
| locusf | faenil: yeah will do | 16:23 |
| locusf | faenil: Error <creator>: Command 'extlinux' is not available. | 16:23 |
| faenil | locusf, while doing what | 16:24 |
| locusf | faenil: sudo mic create raw | 16:24 |
| faenil | which mer sdk are you using? | 16:24 |
| sledgeSim | locusf, faenil https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=576 | 16:25 |
| Merbot | Mer bug 576 in SDK "mic fails because of missing extlinux" [Normal,New] | 16:25 |
| locusf | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK <- tl; dr; version | 16:25 |
| sledgeSim | so zypper install syslinux-extlinux | 16:26 |
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| faenil | locusf, let me know if zypper install fixes it, so I can add it to the tutorial ;) | 16:27 |
| locusf | faenil: http://pastie.org/private/gow1a3pmrlqqbbr5jfvz7g | 16:27 |
| faenil | yeah wait | 16:28 |
| locusf | I probably need a couple of zypper ar | 16:28 |
| sledgeSim | you need mer-tools repo | 16:28 |
| faenil | sledgeSim, he needs that dns fix | 16:29 |
| sledgeSim | echo 5.9.68.173 repo.pub.meego.com | sudo tee -a /etc/hosts | 16:29 |
| locusf | http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.mer.general/711 | 16:29 |
| locusf | yeah | 16:29 |
| locusf | got it | 16:29 |
| sledgeSim | then zypper ar http://repo.pub.meego.com/releases/Mer-Tools/rolling/builds/i486/packages/ mer-tools | 16:30 |
| faenil | have to add all this temporary workarounds | 16:30 |
| sledgeSim | for your tutorial faenil ;) | 16:30 |
| sledgeSim | yes :( | 16:30 |
| locusf | hmm my rootfs needs more space | 16:30 |
| faenil | lol | 16:30 |
| sledgeSim | 8) | 16:30 |
| locusf | 54G /srv/mer/ w t f | 16:31 |
| sledgeSim | df -h /tmp/ | 16:31 |
| sledgeSim | also check from withing mersdk | 16:32 |
| sledgeSim | df -h /parentroot/srv/mer | 16:32 |
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| locusf | yeah its mer sdk but why it mirrored my home here I have no idea | 16:33 |
| locusf | *there | 16:33 |
| Stskeeps | you might want to --one-filesystem-only | 16:34 |
| locusf | Stskeeps: on what? | 16:34 |
| locusf | oh noes | 16:36 |
| locusf | ^Croot@locusf-desktop:/srv# rm -rf mer | 16:36 |
| locusf | bash: /bin/rm: No such file or directory | 16:36 |
| locusf | root@locusf-desktop:/srv# cd | 16:36 |
| locusf | root@locusf-desktop:~# ls /bi | 16:36 |
| locusf | bash: /bin/ls: No such file or directory | 16:36 |
| locusf | Because of this you *MUST* 'umount' the SDK before deleting it - if you don't then you *WILL* lose data. | 16:36 |
| locusf | hmm I wish I read that earlier | 16:36 |
| Stskeeps | ... | 16:37 |
| locusf | my thoughts exactly | 16:37 |
| faenil | ... | 16:37 |
| * sledgeSim copies the big fat warning up to the tl;dr; section... | 16:38 | |
| faenil | sledgeSim, yep | 16:38 |
| locusf | I have a local mirror for ubuntu, bbl | 16:38 |
| sledgeSim | good it wasn't your main devel station | 16:38 |
| faenil | locusf, hope you didn't lose important date | 16:38 |
| faenil | data* | 16:38 |
| sledgeSim | locusf, as you said at beginning, you want to test :) | 16:39 |
| sledgeSim | i think that was an ultimate test taking its toll.. | 16:39 |
| locusf | just my rootfs | 16:39 |
| sledgeSim | are you sure? | 16:40 |
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| locusf | well I basically lost somethin rm:ing /srv/mer | 16:41 |
| faenil | tiny details about Mer SDK, it can eat your hdd if you screw something :D | 16:41 |
| sledgeSim | rm -rf mer basically is rm -rf / | 16:42 |
| sledgeSim | :( | 16:42 |
| locusf | as we say in Finland, "oho" | 16:43 |
| faenil | locusf, you thought you were smarter than the system, you went the tl;dr way :D | 16:44 |
| locusf | yep | 16:44 |
| locusf | I have backups | 16:45 |
| locusf | thankfully | 16:45 |
| sledgeSim | good boy :) | 16:45 |
| faenil | yeah, good boy :) | 16:45 |
| locusf | unless they were removed as well | 16:45 |
| faenil | oh, ehm.. | 16:45 |
| locusf | as it was / | 16:45 |
| sledgeSim | errmm | 16:45 |
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| locusf | finger crossed | 16:45 |
| faenil | yep | 16:45 |
| sledgeSim | bad boy :) | 16:45 |
| faenil | sledgeSim, lol | 16:46 |
| locusf | I was fast to ctrl-c | 16:46 |
| faenil | locusf, oh ok, | 16:46 |
| faenil | I was just saying that it was strange it deleted everything so fast | 16:47 |
| locusf | ssd :) | 16:47 |
| faenil | ouch :D | 16:47 |
| locusf | reinstall complete | 16:48 |
| locusf | now zfs and home remount | 16:48 |
| faenil | locusf, so you had the backups? :) | 16:48 |
| locusf | yes yes | 16:48 |
| faenil | oh, great ;) | 16:48 |
| locusf | on an iscsi ddrive on other comp | 16:48 |
| faenil | sledgeSim, good boy there ^ | 16:49 |
| faenil | locusf, how often do you make backups? | 16:49 |
| locusf | every 6h | 16:49 |
| locusf | or 4 | 16:49 |
| faenil | ow :) | 16:49 |
| sledgeSim | very nice | 16:50 |
| sledgeSim | so that drive wasn't mounted? | 16:50 |
| locusf | lessee | 16:52 |
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| locusf | ok back everything seems to be in order | 17:09 |
| sledgeSim | \o/ well done sir | 17:10 |
| sledgeSim | praiseworthy backup management :) | 17:10 |
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| faenil | locusf, \o/ | 17:13 |
| locusf | at least /home wise | 17:13 |
| faenil | oh :D | 17:13 |
| locusf | and / wise | 17:14 |
| locusf | reinstall doesn't take long with local 1Gbps mirror | 17:14 |
| faenil | ehehe | 17:14 |
| sledgeSim | ok deleted that old tag | 17:22 |
| sledgeSim | added new tag 0.2.2 | 17:22 |
| sledgeSim | and pushed one more commit | 17:22 |
| sledgeSim | git push --tags | 17:22 |
| sledgeSim | does not trigger :( | 17:22 |
| Khertan | Sfiet_Konstantin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4VLIXgEzSw | 17:29 |
| locusf | ok back in testing :p | 17:29 |
| faenil | locusf, \o/ | 17:29 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Khertan: yeah, seen it | 17:29 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | really nice :) | 17:29 |
| locusf | but what if my rootfs fills up again? | 17:29 |
| locusf | (19:34:10) [ Stskeeps] you might want to --one-filesystem-only | 17:30 |
| locusf | where will this go? | 17:30 |
| Stskeeps | in du, -x, --one-file-system skip directories on different file systems | 17:30 |
| locusf | ah | 17:31 |
| Khertan | Sfiet_Konstantin: most of the works on pyotherside was done by thp | 17:32 |
| Khertan | Sfiet_Konstantin: i just add threading and exception managment | 17:32 |
| faenil | Khertan, the tutorial for Nemo Wayland is up, locusf is testing right now :) | 17:33 |
| Khertan | faenil: nice i will test it tomorrow ... thx | 17:33 |
| faenil | Khertan, np ;) let me know if you have any issue, and give feedback for the tutorial as you read through it, thank you :D | 17:34 |
| faenil | read it through* | 17:34 |
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| faenil | whatever :D | 17:34 |
| Khertan | faenil: of course i ll report if i have any issue or advice about it | 17:35 |
| faenil | Khertan, thank you :) | 17:35 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Khertan: still something :) | 17:35 |
| Khertan | faenil did u think this could run with 1gb of ram only ? | 17:38 |
| faenil | Khertan, no idea, Stskeeps may know better | 17:38 |
| Khertan | faenil: ill try :p | 17:39 |
| locusf | faenil: booting VM | 17:50 |
| locusf | booted | 17:50 |
| locusf | fingerterm opn | 17:50 |
| locusf | *open | 17:50 |
| faenil | locusf, ok, good :) | 17:51 |
| faenil | next step: sb2 target :) | 17:51 |
| locusf | faenil: add sudo to those zypper commands | 17:51 |
| locusf | ok | 17:51 |
| faenil | there's no sudo? | 17:51 |
| sledgeSim | no | 17:51 |
| locusf | yeah no sudo | 17:51 |
| faenil | locusf, oh you want me to add "zypper install sudo"? | 17:52 |
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| locusf | faenil: nope, just prepend sudo to those zypper ar and zypper install syslinux-extlinux | 17:53 |
| sledgeSim | wayland vm used ~660MB ram after fingerterm | 17:53 |
| faenil | locusf, right | 17:54 |
| faenil | done ;) | 17:55 |
| faenil | w00t, special ping | 17:55 |
| faenil | quick question | 17:55 |
| locusf | sb2-init -L --sysroot=/ -C --sysroot=/ -m sdk-build -n -N nemo-i486-vm-wayland /opt/cross/bin/i486-meego-linux-gnu-gcc | 17:55 |
| locusf | bash: sb2-init: command not found | 17:55 |
| sledgeSim | locusf, in mer sdk | 17:56 |
| locusf | yesd | 17:56 |
| Stskeeps | sledgeSim: free -m? | 17:56 |
| sledgeSim | Stskeeps, `free` | 17:56 |
| Stskeeps | well, show me output of free -m | 17:57 |
| faenil | ahah :) | 17:57 |
| sledgeSim | lol divide by 1024 :)) | 17:57 |
| * sledgeSim hometime | 17:58 | |
| Stskeeps | there's multiple values, i'm interested in a specific one. | 17:58 |
| sledgeSim | (now shows 812 used after launching and killing qmlcalendar) | 17:58 |
| sledgeSim | https://pastee.org/un35x | 17:59 |
| faenil | locusf, are you doing sb2-init inside mer sdk? | 17:59 |
| locusf | faenil: yes | 17:59 |
| faenil | Stskeeps, ^ | 17:59 |
| faenil | (could be some other package missing) | 17:59 |
| Stskeeps | locusf: zypper in -t pattern Mer-SB2-armv7hl | 17:59 |
| Stskeeps | or -i486, | 17:59 |
| locusf | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK#Compiling_with_the_SDK | 17:59 |
| locusf | ok guessed so | 17:59 |
| faenil | Stskeeps, I think -i486 isn't in public mer yet | 18:00 |
| Stskeeps | anyway, zypper in scratchbox2 | 18:00 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:00 |
| Stskeeps | -/+ buffers/cache: 135 | 18:00 |
| Stskeeps | is value you want | 18:00 |
| Stskeeps | for comparison purposes, sailfish is 179 with components gallery open on vm | 18:01 |
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| faenil | locusf, did it find -i486 pattern? | 18:02 |
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| locusf | faenil: yes I found that pattern | 18:04 |
| locusf | I was looking into building a test rootfs for armv7hl :) | 18:05 |
| Khertan | sledgeSim: thx for the vm size information | 18:05 |
| locusf | just for interest | 18:05 |
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| faenil | locusf, alright, maybe the -i486 was added...it was missing when I set it up :) | 18:05 |
| locusf | faenil: ok | 18:06 |
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| Morpog_PC | hmmm, still 2gb of ram would be nice :) | 18:07 |
| Morpog_PC | for extended multitasking and browser tabs | 18:08 |
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| faenil | locusf, added pattern installation ;) | 18:09 |
| locusf | where is the obs serving http://repo.merproject.org/obs/nemo:/devel:/ux/ | 18:10 |
| Morpog_PC | still impressive that only 135mb is used | 18:10 |
| Morpog_PC | or 179 on sailfish | 18:10 |
| faenil | locusf, what do you mean by "where is" ? | 18:10 |
| special | faenil: pong | 18:11 |
| faenil | special, wanted to know if there was any other work in progress Qt5 port by other people | 18:11 |
| faenil | re: Nemo core apps | 18:11 |
| Superpelican | 2GB RAM? | 18:12 |
| Superpelican | As long as it has more than 256 mb, I'm happy | 18:12 |
| faenil | Stskeeps, what about with Alien Dalvik open? | 18:12 |
| faenil | Superpelican, Android support requires much more, afaik | 18:12 |
| special | faenil: none that I'm aware of | 18:13 |
| faenil | special, alright, thanks | 18:13 |
| Morpog_PC | oh for that the 2gb of ram would be super good | 18:13 |
| Superpelican | Disclaimer:I'm a victim of the N900's low RAM ;) | 18:13 |
| Superpelican | and before my N900, I had a low end Android phone ;) | 18:13 |
| Morpog_PC | nokia has a history of using too less ram in it's devices :) | 18:14 |
| Superpelican | I'm accustomed to lag and freezes | 18:14 |
| locusf | faenil: what OBS serves to that directory? | 18:15 |
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| faenil | Mer OBS? there's only one OBS afaik | 18:15 |
| Superpelican | I can tell you, you don't want to own a low end Android phone | 18:15 |
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| rcg | evening | 18:15 |
| faenil | rcg, o/ | 18:15 |
| rcg | hey faenil \o/ | 18:16 |
| rcg | how's it going? | 18:16 |
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| rcg | Sage, with respect to: https://build.merproject.org/request/show/386 | 18:16 |
| rcg | looks like it is finally stuck | 18:16 |
| rcg | should i just try to re-submit it? | 18:17 |
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| locusf | faenil: testing armv7hl :) | 18:22 |
| faenil | locusf, woot? | 18:22 |
| faenil | where do you test armv7hl on? | 18:22 |
| faenil | rcg, good, good :) Wayland nemo image is ready :) no apps yet | 18:23 |
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| locusf | faenil: my n9 | 18:23 |
| faenil | locusf, using wayland? | 18:24 |
| locusf | faenil: yes | 18:24 |
| faenil | ok | 18:24 |
| locusf | faenil: isn't this a first try then :) ? | 18:24 |
| locusf | probably not but still | 18:24 |
| faenil | locusf, :) | 18:24 |
| rcg | faenil, yay cool :D | 18:25 |
| rcg | that sounds like great news | 18:25 |
| rcg | so, wayland image means qt5 only as well? | 18:25 |
| faenil | few people tested the WIP wayland stuff on n950, but since it's not stable, Stskeeps recommended starting from VM, as it has stable hw adaptation | 18:25 |
| faenil | rcg, kind of qt4-free, tracker and contextkit still require Qt4 | 18:25 |
| faenil | so it has few libqt* packages, 3-4 packages | 18:26 |
| rcg | faenil, aye, ic, but those are non gui libs? | 18:26 |
| rcg | so gui-wise qt5 only? | 18:26 |
| faenil | rcg, actually tracker depends on Qt4Gui, for some reason ;) | 18:28 |
| rcg | heh alright :D | 18:28 |
| faenil | core, dbus, gui, network, xml, those are the Qt4 libs left | 18:28 |
| faenil | mlite, sensorfw, tracker, contextkit, are the qt4 dependent packages | 18:29 |
| rcg | aye ic | 18:29 |
| faenil | rcg, but yeah, real UI is all Qt5 ;) | 18:29 |
| faenil | the image boots to Wayland compositor with lipstick-colorful-home-qt5 | 18:30 |
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| faenil | rcg, feel like porting core nemo apps to Qt5? :D | 18:32 |
| rcg | faenil, :D | 18:33 |
| rcg | well, am super busy with my studies and work atm xD | 18:33 |
| faenil | rcg, I see :) | 18:33 |
| locusf | faenil: got a black screen for a while | 18:36 |
| locusf | but nothing else | 18:36 |
| faenil | locusf, you mean when starting your app? | 18:37 |
| locusf | faenil: nah, your wayland image (I modified the ks to have armv7hl and removed virtualbox packages) | 18:37 |
| locusf | on N9 that is | 18:37 |
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| locusf | copied kernel from old nemo | 18:37 |
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| faenil | lol :D you should have told me you modified the ks :D | 18:38 |
| faenil | no that won't work | 18:38 |
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| locusf | ah :/ | 18:38 |
| faenil | locusf, not sure what's missing, I haven't investigated making a n9 wayland image yet | 18:39 |
| faenil | configs and env vars for sure | 18:39 |
| locusf | yes | 18:39 |
| faenil | go back to good boy mode :P or start hacking and create a ks for the n9, which is even better ;) | 18:40 |
| locusf | I have a ks | 18:41 |
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| locusf | it just doesn't boot :p | 18:41 |
| locusf | its image I mean | 18:41 |
| locusf | http://pastie.org/8197509 | 18:42 |
| Morpog_PC | there are lots of x86 related things in there locusf | 18:46 |
| Morpog_PC | even HW adaption repo is wrong | 18:46 |
| Morpog_PC | oh I see you replaced that one | 18:46 |
| locusf | yup | 18:47 |
| locusf | I need the n950-n9 repo as well | 18:47 |
| Merbot | phaeron lbt sage SR#389 Rejected promotion request | 18:47 |
| rcg | alright, re-submission solved the problem | 18:47 |
| Morpog_PC | i think for waland n9 tehre was a special repo somewhere | 18:47 |
| Morpog_PC | wayland | 18:47 |
| Morpog_PC | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation/N9-N950/Wayland | 18:48 |
| faenil | updated https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Qt5PortingCoreApps | 18:48 |
| faenil | locusf, the packages you're installing in the image don't include N950 wayland configurations, no wonder it's not working | 18:48 |
| locusf | hmm yep | 18:49 |
| faenil | locusf, the packages installed by that ks only have configurations for the x86 VM, because that's what I've done so far | 18:49 |
| faenil | if you want to have some fun feel free to create wayland configurations for the n950 adaptation | 18:50 |
| faenil | and update the ks ;) | 18:50 |
| locusf | heheh | 18:51 |
| faenil | locusf, someone will have to do that sooner or later :) | 18:51 |
| locusf | I guess I'll help out with Qt5 porting :p | 18:51 |
| faenil | locusf, if you know something about systemd and rpm packaging, it's not difficult | 18:51 |
| faenil | I didn't, so it took few days | 18:52 |
| locusf | I know some rpm but nothing about systemd | 18:52 |
| faenil | locusf, let me show you what I did for x86, it's small stuff, if you know what to edit :) | 18:53 |
| faenil | knowing what to change is the tricky part xD | 18:53 |
| faenil | locusf, https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-configs-x86/pull/1 | 18:54 |
| faenil | and https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-mobile-session/pull/6 | 18:54 |
| faenil | and then some time spent trying to get rid of useless stuff from Nemo's patterns, and adding wayland stuff | 18:55 |
| faenil | but that's done and can be reused for the n950 image | 18:55 |
| faenil | (just need to add few hw adaptation files probably) | 18:55 |
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| locusf | how do I list sb2 targets? | 19:00 |
| faenil | Stskeeps, *BLIN BLIN* just did zypper dup, and wayland image broke, "/usr/bin/lipstick: error while loading shared libraries: liblipstick-qt5.so.0: cannot dynamically load executable" | 19:01 |
| faenil | w00t, special ^ | 19:01 |
| Morpog_PC | SDK update! | 19:02 |
| Morpog_PC | David Greaves @lbt_ 56s | 19:02 |
| Morpog_PC | Ride the wave: #SailfishOS SDK Alpha-Qt5 update with Qt5, QtQuick2 and Wayland. Plus updateability! http://sailfishos.org #unlikesdk | 19:02 |
| locusf | whee | 19:04 |
| faenil | yup :D | 19:04 |
| locusf | another alpha :/ | 19:04 |
| Morpog_PC | just names :) | 19:05 |
| locusf | yeah :) | 19:05 |
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| faenil | damnit, who broke Wayland VM!? XD | 19:07 |
| lbt | locusf: yeah - essentially we don't want to nail the API just yet | 19:08 |
| locusf | ah of course | 19:08 |
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| * lbt snuck in some nemo-relevant goodness too | 19:10 | |
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| faenil | lbt, was breaking lipstick-colorful-home-qt5 part of the deal? lol | 19:10 |
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| lbt | https://sailfishos.org//develop.html Existing SailfishOS Alpha SDK installations must be removed by running the "SDKMaintenanceTool" found in the installation directory. | 19:19 |
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| faenil | w00t, let's bring it here | 20:52 |
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| faenil | /usr/bin/lipstick: error while loading | 20:54 |
| faenil | shared libraries: liblipstick-qt5.so.0: cannot dynamically load executable | 20:54 |
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| w00t | faenil: i have as much clue as you do what that means, and i don't have your environment to test - and the ones I have work. so, it's kind of up to you to figure out | 20:55 |
| faenil | w00t, great, that is awesome news :D | 20:56 |
| w00t | i'd suggest looking at the output of 'ls', 'file' and 'ldd', and other typical sorts of debug tooling and seeing what comes out | 20:56 |
| faenil | w00t, well, it wasn't broken until 2-days-ago-zypper-dup :D | 20:56 |
| faenil | w00t, yeah I'll give it a look tomorrow | 20:56 |
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| NeeDforKill | hi all | 22:01 |
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| Hurrian | Hey guys. Trying to set up a cross-build environment in sb2. When I go to install some packages, it errors out on "unable to read /etc/boardname" | 23:29 |
| Hurrian | Any clues? | 23:29 |
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