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Hurrianokay, throwing a question out there - what's lipstick, and what's lipstick-colorful-home?12:28
Hurriandoes lipstick provide runtime services to colorful-home, which is just the "skin"?12:29
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jussisledges: ^^^^12:44
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w00tHurrian: lipstick is a library that provides building blocks (and QML components for e.g. a launcher) to build a homescreen with, we use it in jolla for our homescreen, and nemo uses it also12:48
Hurrianah. alright, I'll look to colorful-home then when I'll start hacking away at glacier-home.12:49
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mhall119w00t: ping14:07
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Sfiet_KonstantinHurrian: maybe better hack components / port applications to Qt5 before hacking glacier home14:16
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* sledges wishes to free up asap to delve into hacking qt-components, i feel i'll love it :)14:22
aknightwould be nice to get quick controls in mer at some point14:24
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sledgesis common misconcept? when you say (qt) quick controls, you mean QtQuick 2.0 ?14:26
sledgesas we already have QtQuick 1.1: https://github.com/nemomobile/qt-components/blob/master/src/components/Checkable.qml14:26
sledgesVenemo_N9 used the same term: http://www.mail-archive.com/mer-general@lists.merproject.org/msg01238.html14:27
sledgesah, also remember him saying: QtQuick 1.1 components do not have "ready-made" controls14:27
aknightno, i mean QtQuick.Controls14:27
sledgeswhere as QtQuick 2.0 components -have- Controls14:27
aknightseparate repo14:28
sledgesmakes sense14:28
sledgesso all is ready-made in Controls, the effort is needed to bring them to the glacier look'n'feel14:29
aknightexactly14:29
sledgesby reskinning principally14:29
aknightand any custom controls, but preferably those go upstream if they are general enough14:29
sledgeswonder how that new nemomobile/qt-components repo will look like - a lot less lines of code! \o/14:30
aknightwell i guess we should have mer-packages/qtquickcontrols14:30
aknightand that will have 3 packages14:31
aknightor 214:31
aknightlayouts, controls14:31
sledgesi see that is readying to go: https://build.merproject.org/package/show?package=qtquickcontrols&project=home%3Acxl000%3Aqt514:32
aknighthmm hadn't noticed that14:32
aknighti just assumed it would be in https://github.com/mer-packages14:33
sledgeshopefully it will make it in there soon14:33
sledgesfrom cxl000 repo ;)14:33
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ericcc_hellohttps://github.com/mer-packages  the  code  can  run   on sailfish?15:40
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Sfiet_Konstantinhello ericcc_ :)15:50
Sfiet_Konstantinyes, this code is actually the basis of sailfish15:50
Sfiet_Konstantinbut better move to #JollaMobile to talk about sailfish15:50
Sfiet_Konstantinhere is the realm of the nemo project15:51
ericcc_yep   i  know15:52
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ericcc_see  you15:55
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ajalkaneTrying to start a service with systemd in Nemo gives me error "Failed to get D-Bus connection: Unable to autolaunch a dbus-daemon without a $DISPLAY for X11"19:23
ajalkaneGoogling a bit gives me for example this topic https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=14936219:23
ajalkaneAnd "yes, you need a patched dbus.19:23
ajalkanehave a look at the user-session-units package, it also has a dependency on the patched dbus package:"19:23
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ajalkaneApparently connection to session dbus is not possible? I'm just using the Nemo release from a while back. Is this something I should not use time for now or is there way to work around it reasonably?19:24
specialajalkane: are you using the systemd user session, or the system session?19:27
ajalkaneUser session19:27
specialthe dbus session bus runs under the user session, and DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS in the environment will make it work19:28
specialas long as you're under the user session and not starting before dbus does, it should be fine.19:29
ajalkaneI'm trying to follow how contactsd is doing it. I'll just try again to make sure I have everything correct as it's been awhile since I last had time to work on this.19:29
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ajalkaneHumm... even uninstalling the package gives the same error. Can I do install/uninstall with normal ssh to the nemno device, or should I do it from device's terminal (I'm installing as root) ?19:38
specialssh is fine19:39
ajalkaneI'm still getting the same error. My .service file is essentially same as contactsd.service. Is there some other place that might cause a problem?19:40
ajalkane(this happens when installing the package with "zypper in")19:41
specialcan you put it on a pastebin?19:41
ajalkanePlease see here; http://pastebin.com/K1FMgxtU19:45
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ajalkaneI see if I'm not root "systemctl --user status profilematicd.service" does not give that error19:47
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