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| plundstr | Sage: https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-mobile-session/pull/3/commits | 07:39 |
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| Sage | plundstr: merged | 07:47 |
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| plundstr | Sage: how is tagging handled in nemo? Should I tag it now or you do it sometime later? | 08:03 |
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| alci | Hi all. I am trying to reinstall Nemo on a N9. There was a former install, but using meego repositories, so it cannot be upgraded. | 08:05 |
| alci | What I have done is: download nemo-armv7hl-n950-0.20130411.1.NEMO.2013-04-26.1.tar.bz2 | 08:06 |
| alci | Mount Alt_OS and sudo tar --numeric-owner -xf nemo-armv7hl-n950-0.20130411.1.NEMO.2013-04-26.1.tar.bz2 -C /media/franck/Alt_OS/ | 08:06 |
| alci | sudo flush | 08:06 |
| alci | arg... I mean sudo sync :-) | 08:07 |
| alci | unmount | 08:07 |
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| alci | Now, I boot in moslo as before, but when I press the volume down button, I get... a black screen. Nothing seems to happen. | 08:07 |
| alci | Is the archive I use suitable for a N9? Is there some troubleshooting I can do? | 08:09 |
| phaeron | plundstr: join #mer-boss and tag | 08:09 |
| phaeron | alci: yes it should be ok, can you ssh over usb ? | 08:09 |
| phaeron | Sage: ^^ | 08:09 |
| alci | plunstr: I will try now | 08:09 |
| alci | Yes, I can actually ssh into the device | 08:15 |
| Sage | alci: also reboot device once after starting up there has been issues with first boot at times | 08:17 |
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| alci | Victory. After rebooting (twice), I finally have a working nemo ! Thanks all for your help ! | 08:22 |
| phaeron | Sage: the sgx issues were not fixed yet in that release ? | 08:22 |
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| Sage | phaeron: probably not :/ | 08:24 |
| * Sage really needs to get new snapshot done | 08:25 | |
| phaeron | yeah fixing user session should unblock moving stuff to :testing | 08:25 |
| w00t | Sage: well i was attaching a reason to all of them :-p | 08:26 |
| Sage | w00t: yes :) | 08:26 |
| Sage | w00t: any change you have time to check that notification thing in nemo home? | 08:26 |
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| w00t | Sage: depends.. can I safely upgrade now? (the whole uid/gid mess) | 08:29 |
| w00t | i've been a little cautious about zypper dup :) | 08:29 |
| Sage | w00t: doing zypper dup myself to my n950 now lets see :D | 08:31 |
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| w00t | haha | 08:32 |
| w00t | also did you see this on n950? | 08:32 |
| w00t | i at least have latest lipstick/colorful home and haven't reproduced any problem | 08:32 |
| Sage | yes n950 | 08:32 |
| w00t | k | 08:32 |
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| sledges | http://pic.twitter.com/idSqB2p7IP | 08:48 |
| phaeron | w00 | 08:52 |
| w00t | sledges: :o | 08:58 |
| sledges | yes, VERY NICE | 08:58 |
| Stskeeps | x11 or wayland, though? | 08:58 |
| * w00t wonders what's up with a few icons missing | 08:58 | |
| w00t | almost certainly x11 | 08:58 |
| w00t | our wayland state is not all that great right now ;) | 08:58 |
| sledges | my gf has sgs2, ftw now :D | 08:58 |
| sledges | yup, means drivers are Xish | 08:59 |
| w00t | Sage: let me know how your upgrade goes and if you want another guineapig btw | 09:00 |
| sledges | this guy wanted to port to galaxy nexus first | 09:00 |
| sledges | i think robclark showed fedora on samsung phone recently | 09:01 |
| sledges | using his open mali stack | 09:01 |
| sledges | could be continuation | 09:01 |
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| sledges | but no video, wonders about performance ;) | 09:02 |
| w00t | well perhaps it's like i've had with wayland a few times, where it just draws a few frames and then stops ;) | 09:03 |
| sledges | Stskeeps, the tweet reads x11 :P | 09:03 |
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| sledges | before all icons kick in ;D | 09:03 |
| * Sage reboots | 09:06 | |
| GentSir | Is developing for nemo fundamentally the same as Sailfish? Minus all the silica components and the such, is it purely a UI difference? | 09:06 |
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| w00t | GentSir: i don't quite follow | 09:07 |
| w00t | (that's a bit of a broad question.. can you be a bit more specific?) | 09:07 |
| Sage | w00t: ui boots at least | 09:07 |
| GentSir | w00t, perhaps my ignorance of the platform is the issue | 09:07 |
| GentSir | I'm going through the Mer wiki | 09:07 |
| Sage | w00t: so I would say safe'ish | 09:08 |
| w00t | Sage: ok, will give it a shot ;) | 09:08 |
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| sledges | GentSir, its bothvqt qml and using same underlying firmware, so yes | 09:09 |
| sledges | middleware soz | 09:09 |
| GentSir | sledges, thank you | 09:10 |
| GentSir | Thought I might try out some stuff on nemo, since it seems to be more "feature complete" than sailfish is at the moment | 09:11 |
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| w00t | GentSir: more hands welcome | 09:20 |
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| Sage | w00t: did it work? ;) | 09:45 |
| sledges | nemo traces on sgs2 (i9100): https://gitorious.org/i9100-proper-linux/i9100-proper-linux-kernel/commits/cm9_gnu | 09:46 |
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| w00t | Sage: got a little stuck by a mer-tools problem, i guess i'll uninstall git for now so i can upgrade | 10:15 |
| Sage | w00t: also you might need to do zypper dup twice | 10:18 |
| Sage | w00t: the as ssu-vendor-data-nemo might update the repository info if you don't have the latest version already | 10:18 |
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| * Sage gives w00t's update a push | 10:32 | |
| w00t | ahem | 10:36 |
| w00t | i got distracted | 10:36 |
| w00t | really doing it now! | 10:36 |
| phako | meh | 10:43 |
| phako | was there a solution for that camera update conflict? | 10:43 |
| phako | totally forgot about that | 10:43 |
| Sage | phako: on which device? | 10:44 |
| phako | n9 | 10:44 |
| Sage | phako: ssu re -r latest; ssu fl devel; zypper ref; zypper install ssu ssu-vendor-data-nemo; zypper ref; zypper dup | 10:45 |
| phako | ah | 10:46 |
| Sage | phako: if you still get errors after that with the zypper dup. Can you put those to some pastebin | 10:46 |
| phako | checking | 10:46 |
| * w00t dups again | 10:47 | |
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| w00t | Sage: didn't have to dup | 10:48 |
| Sage | w00t: you probably had the latest update then already | 10:48 |
| Sage | w00t: assuming you did another zypper ref as well ;) | 10:49 |
| phako | Sage: touch: cannot touch `/usr/share/ssu/board-mappings.d/*.ini': No such file or directory | 10:49 |
| Sage | phako: that is ok'ish shouldn't break anything | 10:49 |
| phako | ok | 10:49 |
| w00t | Sage: how can I verify the uid changed? | 10:49 |
| phako | hm, still trying to remove a lot of stuff. | 10:49 |
| Sage | w00t: after reboot check /etc/passwd and ls -l /home | 10:50 |
| phako | http://fpaste.org/18383/71120607/ - is that ok? | 10:50 |
| Sage | phako: yes | 10:51 |
| phako | good | 10:51 |
| phako | thanks | 10:51 |
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| sledges | wow old settings is going \o/ | 10:53 |
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| sledges | good job w00t | 10:54 |
| special | new one has accounts too :> | 10:54 |
| sledges | yay | 10:54 |
| sledges | yup, accounts-ui binned :D | 10:55 |
| sledges | together with gst-nokia-camera &} | 10:55 |
| w00t | Sage: rebooted to ui ;) | 11:01 |
| w00t | though orientation seems broken | 11:01 |
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| w00t | nemo:x:100000:100000::/home/nemo:/bin/zsh | 11:04 |
| w00t | looks good | 11:04 |
| * w00t pokes sensorfw | 11:05 | |
| kontio | w00t: Aard: any comments to: https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=666#c3 ? what do you suggest to martyone? | 11:17 |
| Merbot | Nemo bug 666 in .Other "libqtsparql-tracker-live-tests should be in a separate package and 1 test fails" [Normal,New] | 11:17 |
| w00t | oops, not sure why i missed that mail | 11:19 |
| w00t | urmmm let's see. | 11:20 |
| w00t | do we regularly run tests on n900s? not many people here contributing are still working on them | 11:20 |
| w00t | so unless it fails on other hardware i'm not sure i'd bother with it | 11:21 |
| Sage | I'm not testing on n900 anymore really. No time | 11:21 |
| kontio | w00t: martyone has just a n900 available, but same issue with n9... | 11:21 |
| w00t | martyone: do you have a link to the diff you're trying out? | 11:22 |
| martyone | w00t: https://github.com/martyone/libqtsparql-tracker-extensions/blob/8186c63689609e9938447a902f03b04112355275/rpm/increase-timeouts.patch | 11:23 |
| w00t | seems like it only touches tests, so i can't see any problem with that | 11:24 |
| w00t | i'd suggest using QTRY_COMPARE instead of timers and so on though | 11:25 |
| w00t | (copy the definitions if you're on qt 4, it's only available on qt 5) | 11:25 |
| martyone | w00t: in addition to this, d-bus timeout must be increased inside qsparql's tracker driver. Something like this http://pastebin.com/3VMziQEd | 11:28 |
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| w00t | martyone: perhaps an alternative is to add some private api that is called just to set that in test mode? | 11:32 |
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| martyone | w00t: this might work well. BTW are we sure the current timeout is ok for normal applications? | 11:39 |
| w00t | martyone: not completely, but i haven't seen any problems around | 11:39 |
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| w00t | and if it isn't then the application probably needs fixing | 11:39 |
| w00t | that is a huge amount of time to wait, it'd appear completely nonresponsive | 11:39 |
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| martyone | w00t: I agree | 11:40 |
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| sledges | Sage, so currently gst-nokia-camera is going away on n9? http://pastebin.com/STmiRKny | 11:46 |
| martyone | w00t: I just realized tracker should be the slow end, not the applications. In that case it is rather tracker what needs fixing. Or am I wrong? | 11:46 |
| sledges | ah ok, ssu-vendor-data-nemo needs to be upgraded first Sage | 11:47 |
| sledges | doing that now | 11:47 |
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| w00t | martyone: i don't think it'd ever be this slow in real-world scenarios, my guess is that the tests are doing some rather interesting things that are giving it a heart attack | 11:49 |
| w00t | at least i haven't seen problems | 11:49 |
| * sledges sits back and relaxes: 474 packages to upgrade, 2 to downgrade, 49 new, 38 to remove. | 11:50 | |
| martyone | w00t: ok :) | 11:52 |
| Sage | sledges: yes gst-nokia-camera is going away | 11:52 |
| sledges | but got a replacement | 11:52 |
| Sage | yes | 11:52 |
| sledges | hmmm, will see what the camera quality is now | 11:52 |
| sledges | (in nemo n9 quality used to be like that of stock lumia's 800 with their best intentions :D ) | 11:53 |
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| Sage | w00t: did you get the black box on your ui after update? | 12:09 |
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| phako | hm, can't connect to my wifi anymore | 12:13 |
| sledges | via new settings? | 12:13 |
| phako | yep | 12:14 |
| phako | Jan 01 01:04:04 localhost lipstick[430]: file:///usr/lib/qt4/imports/com/nokia/meego/PageStack.js:66: Error: Error while loading sheet: qrc:/qml/connectivity/SettingsSheet.qml:3 module "com.nokia.controlpanel" is not installed | 12:14 |
| w00t | hrm | 12:14 |
| sledges | still if you need wifi, resort to connman-tests (just saying if you forgot) | 12:15 |
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| w00t | i'm not sure why that's imported | 12:15 |
| w00t | i'll take a look in a while | 12:15 |
| phako | sledges: never used connman | 12:16 |
| phako | and while we're at it: | 12:16 |
| phako | Jan 01 01:06:36 localhost dbus-daemon[276]: dbus[276]: [system] Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.23" (uid=100000 pid=430 comm="/usr/bin/lipstick --systemd ") interface=".../usr/sbin/mce ") | 12:16 |
| phako | Jan 01 01:06:36 localhost dbus[276]: [system] Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.23" (uid=100000 pid=430 comm="/usr/bin/lipstick --systemd ") interface="org.freedesktop.DB.../usr/sbin/mce ") | 12:16 |
| w00t | phako: or if you have mer sdk installed, you could always take a look :-p | 12:16 |
| phako | w00t: I have a mer sdk installed, but don't ask me how old it is | 12:17 |
| sledges | phako, https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Minimal/Networking | 12:17 |
| phako | thanks | 12:17 |
| * phako has like 4 different arm chroots on his hdd and a handful of different SDKS | 12:18 | |
| sledges | join the club :) | 12:18 |
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| * w00t wonders why his wifi page loads | 12:19 | |
| sledges | leftovers | 12:21 |
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| phako | sledges: ehm | 12:21 |
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| phako | can't install connman-test because, you see, no network ;) | 12:22 |
| * phako does scp | 12:22 | |
| sledges | "i thought you was gonna say this" :D | 12:22 |
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| w00t | sledges: no, i don't have that import installed either | 12:24 |
| w00t | so i'm a bit perplexed | 12:24 |
| w00t | :P | 12:24 |
| w00t | but i need to fix sensorfw mess first | 12:24 |
| sledges | phako, tl;dr: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Vivaldi#WiFi | 12:24 |
| sledges | w00t, something left over in phako's installation which is asking for it | 12:24 |
| w00t | sledges: the qmlsettings repository asks for it | 12:25 |
| w00t | so it's asking for it on my device too, but somehow still working | 12:25 |
| w00t | no idea why | 12:25 |
| * sledges about to finish zypper dup | 12:25 | |
| sledges | will check on mine's then | 12:25 |
| sledges | and pre-checks needed? | 12:25 |
| sledges | before I reboot | 12:25 |
| w00t | none afair | 12:26 |
| sledges | k | 12:26 |
| phako | slaine: except that there's no connect-service on my device | 12:26 |
| phako | er sledges | 12:26 |
| * slaine goes back to sleep | 12:27 | |
| sledges | slaine, are you hibernating? :) | 12:27 |
| slaine | lol | 12:27 |
| sledges | ok ignore me then phako :) | 12:27 |
| phako | ok, works, thanks | 12:30 |
| phako | don't get a status icon, though | 12:30 |
| sledges | sweet | 12:30 |
| sledges | hehehe | 12:30 |
| sledges | "Du kannst nicht alles haben" :) | 12:31 |
| sledges | ^ a good song by the Wise Guys btw | 12:31 |
| phako | But if you try some times | 12:32 |
| phako | stones | 12:32 |
| sledges | :D | 12:32 |
| Sage | w00t: for me sensorfw works fine | 12:32 |
| w00t | Sage: you probably don't have the qt5 daemon installed | 12:32 |
| w00t | I do | 12:32 |
| * Sage checks | 12:32 | |
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| Sage | w00t: right, I have the qt4 version installed | 12:33 |
| phako | great. back to filing gstreamer bugs | 12:33 |
| Sage | w00t: is the black box on your device after update? | 12:33 |
| w00t | no | 12:34 |
| w00t | lbt: can you pretty please add special access to mer webhooks panel? | 12:35 |
| Sage | hmmp | 12:37 |
| Sage | I wonder why I see it :/ | 12:37 |
| Sage | w00t: you have some qt5 version of lipstick or something? | 12:37 |
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| w00t | maybe because you have working sensorfw :-p | 12:37 |
| w00t | not atm | 12:37 |
| lbt | w00t: special ... done (assuming login is "special" too) | 12:43 |
| special | lbt: is there a "special"..? | 12:44 |
| special | I thought it was jbrooks. | 12:45 |
| w00t | special: believe it or not, there's more than one special person in the world | 12:45 |
| Sage | :D | 12:45 |
| lbt | special: I type into raw ldap - so it doesn't do any of this fancy validaton stuff :D | 12:46 |
| lbt | you ask me to add special ... that's what you get ;) | 12:46 |
| lbt | ok - try now with jbrooks | 12:47 |
| special | works | 12:47 |
| special | thanks | 12:47 |
| lbt | cool - np ... I should make a script that checks uid exists .... one day.... | 12:48 |
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| sledges | w00t, Sage , orientation stopped working even without reboot | 12:56 |
| * sledges about to reboot | 12:56 | |
| w00t | sledges: i'm working on that now | 12:57 |
| w00t | unfortunately it's a bit of a rabbit hole | 12:57 |
| sledges | ok, rebooting at will (just to confirm that i'm not on Sage's camp) | 12:57 |
| Sage | Why my device seems to behave differently than yours :D | 12:57 |
| Sage | sledges: no questions from me ;) | 12:58 |
| sledges | why am i not surprised :) | 12:58 |
| w00t | Sage: i have some extra packages installed as a result of working on qt5 stuff on here | 12:58 |
| w00t | they dragged sensorfw-qt5 in | 12:58 |
| w00t | as for sledges, not sure | 12:58 |
| sledges | w00t, https://pastee.org/y9j9t | 12:59 |
| sledges | havent rebooted yet | 12:59 |
| w00t | ok, so different problem | 13:00 |
| sledges | still stood by :) | 13:00 |
| w00t | probably just killed sensorfw on upgrade, something i have noticed happening but not looked into yet | 13:00 |
| sledges | rebooting, then will see | 13:00 |
| w00t | sensord* | 13:00 |
| sledges | yup | 13:00 |
| sledges | ps says no sensord running | 13:00 |
| sledges | wow logo screen is back | 13:03 |
| sledges | still hallucinogenic though | 13:03 |
| sledges | NICE unlock motion! | 13:04 |
| sledges | sensors (orientation) work | 13:04 |
| sledges | and FINALLY the dreaded https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=349 is fixed! thank you w00t \o/ | 13:04 |
| Merbot | Nemo bug 349 in Home "Panning between launcher and switcher is hard." [Normal,New] | 13:04 |
| * sledges is going to close some bugs | 13:05 | |
| sledges | nope, false alarm for 349 :( | 13:09 |
| sledges | at least got poked :D | 13:10 |
| sledges | wifi works fine for me | 13:11 |
| sledges | remembered old APs and passwords | 13:11 |
| sledges | new bug: switcher, launcher and home screens get ugly zoomed-in when in landscape | 13:12 |
| w00t | photo? | 13:13 |
| sledges | http://i1260.photobucket.com/albums/ii567/sledgas/mer/nemo/landscape-ugly_zps4586cc2e.png | 13:15 |
| phako | that's fine here | 13:17 |
| w00t | woah | 13:18 |
| w00t | that's weird | 13:18 |
| w00t | is it always like that? | 13:18 |
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| sledges | now what did I do to poor lipstick.. | 13:18 |
| sledges | yes | 13:18 |
| sledges | might be that my modifications persisted, but unlikely | 13:19 |
| * sledges checks | 13:19 | |
| w00t | kill it and see if it recurs | 13:19 |
| sledges | erm, it's after reboot | 13:19 |
| w00t | i know | 13:20 |
| w00t | but kill lipstick and see what happens | 13:20 |
| sledges | ok, worked | 13:20 |
| sledges | does not recur | 13:20 |
| sledges | now let's repeat the steps that possibly triggered it ;) | 13:20 |
| w00t | strange | 13:20 |
| sledges | this bug re-emerged: https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=521 | 13:24 |
| Merbot | Nemo bug 521 in Home "When rotating the device while unlocking the screen the unlock screen partial lockscreen is shown" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] | 13:24 |
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| cybette | qwazix: ping , you around? | 13:28 |
| cybette | Venemo_: hi! | 13:28 |
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| Venemo_ | hey cybrNaut | 13:31 |
| Venemo_ | hey cybette | 13:31 |
| cybette | :) | 13:31 |
| Venemo_ | I was able to reach qwazix via the phone | 13:31 |
| cybette | great! | 13:31 |
| Venemo_ | fk_lx had his number | 13:31 |
| Venemo_ | he's also coming at 5pm :) | 13:31 |
| cybette | excellent | 13:32 |
| Venemo_ | so you're saying that Sage is also coming? | 13:33 |
| Venemo_ | that's nice :) | 13:33 |
| cybette | yes sage is coming | 13:33 |
| Venemo_ | awesome :) | 13:33 |
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| sledges | w00t, 100% reproducible now: | 13:38 |
| sledges | launch settings, flip phone from landscape to portrait (or vice versa) with settings active | 13:39 |
| sledges | minimise settings | 13:39 |
| sledges | and in landscape all will be zoomed | 13:39 |
| * sledges found it when launched new qmlsettings for the first time, immediately tested if that is rotateable ;) | 13:39 | |
| sledges | no idea why settings start changing lipstick's zoom factors just when rotating | 13:40 |
| Venemo_ | w00t: you will have to come to Devaamo Summit next year | 13:40 |
| Venemo_ | w00t: I won't accept any excuses! :P | 13:40 |
| sledges | w00t, sorry, that can be caused by any app, not subject to qmlsettings | 13:42 |
| cybette | Venemo_: leaving office, see you soon | 13:42 |
| Venemo_ | see you soon cybette :) | 13:42 |
| sledges | sealed: https://bugs.nemomobile.org/post_bug.cgi | 13:47 |
| sledges | :) | 13:47 |
| sledges | https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=677 | 13:47 |
| Merbot | Nemo bug 677 in Window Manager/Compositor "all lipstick screens can get zoomed in landscape" [Normal,New] | 13:47 |
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| xavinux | sledge: Hi, I´ve been reading about bug 17 https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17 | 14:10 |
| Merbot | Nemo bug 17 in Settings/ControlPanel "Brightness control panel does not work" [Normal,New] | 14:10 |
| xavinux | Marko comment "This bug is fixed with n950 at least if you use rnd/devel repos with the new control panel." and Bug 222 has been marked as a duplicates of 17. | 14:10 |
| Merbot | Nemo bug 222 in Settings/ControlPanel "Unable to adjust screen brightness" [Normal,Resolved: duplicate] https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=222 | 14:10 |
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| sledges | yes, it was me who pasted that comment #9 :D | 14:10 |
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| sledges | btw, xavinux , here's a fuller list for you to look into instead, sorted most recent first: https://bugs.nemomobile.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&query_format=advanced&order=bug_id%20DESC&query_based_on= | 14:12 |
| sledges | because we don't do triages often (/me eyes the busy bee iekku :)) | 14:13 |
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| xavinux | ok....sorry..but what do you mean by "triage"? | 14:27 |
| sledges | when there's a new bug reported | 14:30 |
| sledges | it has to be 'triaged' | 14:30 |
| sledges | means, priority and severity set | 14:30 |
| sledges | by "the savvy people" :) | 14:31 |
| sledges | we used to do this weekly, but hasn't been done for a while (also means nemo now has way less bugs) | 14:31 |
| xavinux | ok | 14:34 |
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| xavinux | unfortunately my N9 can´t be repair.... :((( | 14:43 |
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| xavinux | sledge: can I continue helping anyway? | 14:46 |
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| sledges | very sad xavinux :( you can run nemo on Nexus 7 tablet | 14:51 |
| sledges | or Pandaboard | 14:51 |
| special | and lots of new hardware has been showing up | 14:52 |
| * w00t tweaks special's hardware | 14:53 | |
| sledges | yup, works in progress | 14:53 |
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| sledges | Nexus4, Galaxy Nexus and BeagleBone Black are in horizons | 14:54 |
| sledges | raspberry pi (but this is more Mer and simply UI only, not full nemo) | 14:54 |
| w00t | rpi will come with wayland | 14:54 |
| sledges | and topping the list today's tweet: nemo on Samsung Galaxy S2 http://pic.twitter.com/idSqB2p7IP | 14:55 |
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| xavinux | ok, but I have to buy a new hardware...I can´t help using the Virtualbox ISO till I can buy a new N9? | 15:01 |
| sledges | you can, as much as you can test on a VM, you will help | 15:02 |
| xavinux | ok | 15:05 |
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| xavinux | well, perhaps will wait till I can buy a new one and give a better help....:( | 15:21 |
| sledges | all of the UI bugs are device-independent | 15:22 |
| sledges | the choice is yours, always is :) | 15:22 |
| sledges | how much can you get N900 off ebay these days? | 15:23 |
| sledges | my cousin had a very cheap deal for €100 of N9 as well (but that was probably down to where he lived..) | 15:23 |
| xavinux | about u$s 300 dollars here in Argentina... | 15:26 |
| sledges | yeap, value of n9 doesn't drop, "good as gold, ..." :) | 15:27 |
| xavinux | 350 dollars for a Nokia N9 in used conditions.... | 15:27 |
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| xavinux | free only for my company | 15:27 |
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| xavinux | 450 free for any company | 15:28 |
| sledges | lost you there, 450 is not free :) | 15:28 |
| sledges | or is it "free as in free ...." ? :) | 15:28 |
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| xavinux | free so I can use a chip of any cell company from here, Movistar, Personal or Claro | 15:42 |
| sledges | ah, unlocked | 15:43 |
| sledges | understood | 15:43 |
| xavinux | sorry, yes, unlocked | 15:43 |
| sledges | np | 15:46 |
| xavinux | "all of the UI bugs are device-independent" so can help in this with Virtualbox iso? | 15:47 |
| sledges | yes | 15:49 |
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| xavinux | sledge: what about Bug 411, can I use vm iso for thsi? perhaps can make guide in english and spansh too.... | 15:54 |
| Merbot | Nemo bug 411 in .Other "UX startup guide for first boot" [Task,New] https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=411 | 15:54 |
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| sledges | xavinux, they are not talking about a guide in a document, but sort of a showcase mode, like when you first boot android it has many of such: http://i.stack.imgur.com/WhKvE.png | 16:01 |
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| sledges | so it would involve programming an overlay QML app | 16:04 |
| sledges | good start if you want try some UX coding | 16:04 |
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| xavinux | ah ok | 16:06 |
| xavinux | all I did with QML was a hello wold window.... :) | 16:10 |
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| xavinux | *world | 16:10 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | sledges: how would you implement that ? | 16:14 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | maybe a sparate app that launch at the beginning ? | 16:14 |
| sledges | Sfiet_Konstantin, separate app would be the best | 16:15 |
| sledges | as it can be discarded afterwards | 16:15 |
| sledges | but | 16:15 |
| sledges | :) | 16:15 |
| sledges | easiest hackiest way would be to inject/poison lipstick's .qml files themselves | 16:16 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sledges: baaah | 16:16 |
| sledges | because all those overlays need to disappear when user actually goes on and tries (to unlock the lockscreen, to swipe around screens, minimising app would be harder) | 16:16 |
| sledges | so yeah, an elegant separate app, which has always the top-most z-order, and communicates with lipstick via dbus | 16:17 |
| sledges | but | 16:17 |
| sledges | if e.g. thanks to compositor we have another app loaded (e.g. qmlcalc) | 16:17 |
| sledges | how will our app will be overlaid then? | 16:17 |
| sledges | to say that "swipe from side to minimise the active app" | 16:18 |
| slaine | Would have thought it would make more sense for lipstick to do it | 16:18 |
| sledges | i think even compositor needs to be poked (or wait for wayland ;) | 16:18 |
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| Aard | win 54 | 16:21 |
| sledges | Aard, I got max 9 windows on irssi :D | 16:21 |
| Aard | lucky you | 16:22 |
| Aard | I'm currently at least under 200 | 16:22 |
| sledges | :D you are really interested in *everything* :)) | 16:22 |
| Aard | too many people are interested in me :p | 16:22 |
| sledges | ;D | 16:23 |
| Aard | almost all of those windows are work related | 16:23 |
| sledges | I'll admit I had to use `/SET activity_hide_targets #boringchannel` , even with my <9 windows :)) | 16:24 |
| iekku | sledges, i know, i have been way too busy. situation is going to change at july | 16:25 |
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| sledges | ahoj iekku, we're keeping calm and carrying on somehow, waiting for your comeback :) | 16:25 |
| sledges | something big is always brewing in Jolla's pot ;) | 16:26 |
| iekku | sledges, i'm on vacation now and most propably i will be off from computer next 2 mondays | 16:26 |
| sledges | i see | 16:26 |
| sledges | ever thought of finding an apprentice/substitute temporarily? :) | 16:27 |
| iekku | sledges, i have tried that couple of times. mer works ok, but nemo doesn't | 16:29 |
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| sledges | :} roger | 16:30 |
| iekku | sledges, but if you could host triage, that would be great :) | 16:37 |
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| sledges | I could, but I'm a night owl :D don't forget, UK is the 'earliest' european country :) (together with portugal) | 16:40 |
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| sledges | maybe someone else can, who knows the commands too.. | 16:41 |
| iekku | sledges, i didn't remember the time difference, sorry | 16:43 |
| sledges | np, most people are awake by that time even here | 16:43 |
| iekku | anyone willing to host 2 next nemo triages? | 16:43 |
| iekku | sledges, :D | 16:43 |
| sledges | me is most probably running to work at that time halfasleep :D | 16:44 |
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| iekku | i have woke up one morning 7:00 during my vacation | 16:44 |
| iekku | today i woke up 6:30, was awake 1h and back to sleep | 16:44 |
| sledges | niice isn't it? | 16:45 |
| sledges | how's your back? | 16:45 |
| iekku | better, but it was the reason keeping me awake this morning | 16:46 |
| sledges | well, rest plenty and come back fresh! :) | 16:47 |
| iekku | i have tried to practice it and do something else also than hanging on computer :P | 16:47 |
| sledges | yoga? :) | 16:47 |
| iekku | not my thing. have tried it and my back got worse | 16:49 |
| sledges | sometimes back gets worse before bettering when you start poking at it vigorously | 16:49 |
| sledges | happened to couple one of my students | 16:50 |
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| xavinux | sledages: sorry, perhaps can see Bug 59? | 17:00 |
| xavinux | https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59 | 17:01 |
| Merbot | Nemo bug 59 in SystemUI "Battery status is not show proper value after boot" [Normal,New] | 17:01 |
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| * w00t has working sensors with a simple qt5 application \o/ | 17:17 | |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | w00t: \o/ | 17:19 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | nice | 17:19 |
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| sledges | \o/ | 17:59 |
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| nsuffys | \o/ | 18:07 |
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| Sage | o/ | 18:14 |
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| Burlone | hello, i have a problem with Nemo mobile for N9, can someone help me? | 18:21 |
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| Sage | Burlone: most probably. Can you describe the problem you are having? | 18:39 |
| Burlone | in practice I did not create the partition, I tried a bit of time with the 'help of Juiceme but nothing to do, I have the 16 gb | 18:40 |
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| ali | fghrfh | 18:57 |
| ali | hi every body | 18:58 |
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| w00t | sledges: ping | 19:29 |
| Sage | Burlone:so you are having problems with moslo installation? | 19:29 |
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| Venemo_ | Sage: hope you arrived home safely | 20:19 |
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| sledges | pong w00t | 21:29 |
| w00t | sledges: upgrade, restart lipstick (via killall lipstick) and see if your problem is gone | 21:31 |
| sledges | the one with zoom? | 21:32 |
| w00t | probably | 21:35 |
| w00t | but also the half-appearing lockscreen | 21:35 |
| sledges | yup | 21:42 |
| w00t | all good? :) | 21:50 |
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| xavinux | people which is the better way to program apps for N9 with python, PyQt or PySide? | 22:25 |
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| sledges | w00t, my moslo is somehow outdated at home (32-bit flasher) | 23:18 |
| sledges | doesn't boot nemo | 23:18 |
| sledges | so will retry tomorrow at 64-bit flasher | 23:18 |
| w00t | o.O | 23:18 |
| sledges | which worked today | 23:18 |
| sledges | hope update didn't bork anything, shouldn't have, as I did many boots after dup | 23:18 |
| sledges | (yes, im still using dual boot non persistent method, don't ask :D ) | 23:19 |
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| sledges | xavinux, with PySide I started coding right away, was real easy | 23:19 |
| sledges | never tried pyqt | 23:19 |
| xavinux | ok thanks, will try it so | 23:21 |
| xavinux | Pyside | 23:21 |
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| xavinux | and I can test apps made with PySide on a Nemo VM or is better to install Harmattan in a VM for start coding? | 23:27 |
| sledges | didn't hear about harmattan in a VM | 23:28 |
| sledges | :P | 23:28 |
| sledges | nemo will do fine, as long as you use existing QML components | 23:28 |
| xavinux | ja ok...will try to run Harmattan in a VM :) will use Nemo | 23:34 |
| xavinux | for work with PySide... | 23:36 |
| xavinux | as you seggest | 23:36 |
| xavinux | *suggest | 23:36 |
| sledges | or harmattan, or nemo -- two different distributions ;) | 23:37 |
| sledges | good night and good luck! | 23:37 |
| sledges | :) | 23:37 |
| * sledges off | 23:37 | |
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| xavinux | good night | 23:53 |
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