| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7816 Rejected promotion request | 00:04 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7817 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7817 | 00:30 |
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| juiceme | Silly question, really, and might be a FAQ but I did not find an easy answer; | 06:30 |
| juiceme | How could I easiest sync my contacts and messages between Nemo and Harmattan on the same device? | 06:30 |
| Stskeeps | contacts it should be possible to use vcard | 06:31 |
| Stskeeps | messages.. nfi | 06:31 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 06:31 |
| juiceme | For contacts, they are updating not so often, it I can do manually | 06:31 |
| juiceme | but what about messages? | 06:31 |
| Stskeeps | i don't recall what stores it in harmattan | 06:32 |
| juiceme | In harmattan it is in sqlite database | 06:32 |
| juiceme | how is it done in Nemo? | 06:32 |
| juiceme | Ideally, I was thinking something like; when selecting the boot-OS, there could be a script that checks which one is more up-to-date, Nemo or Harmattan message DB, and copies/transforms the newer DB to the other side | 06:34 |
| special | harmattan should store them the same way, in tracker | 06:35 |
| special | in theory it might be possible to sync in some way, but I'm not sure how you'd do it offline.. | 06:35 |
| juiceme | Yes, in Harmattan it is in tracker DB, except for MMS which get a bit different handling | 06:36 |
| juiceme | special, I can read the DB offline :) | 06:36 |
| juiceme | (offline, meaning when running something else than Harmattan on the device) | 06:37 |
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| juiceme | What is the message storage in Nemo, how is it done? | 06:37 |
| special | should be the same as harmattan, stored in tracker via libcommhistory | 06:38 |
| special | there might be some differences that will cause problems, though | 06:38 |
| special | like the name of the TP account for cellular | 06:38 |
| juiceme | okay, so both devices have Tracker to take care of it, but DB formats may differ? | 06:38 |
| special | formats should be the same, but some data might be slightly different. | 06:39 |
| juiceme | OK | 06:39 |
| juiceme | How about modifying the DB outside the Tracker scope, is that receipe for disaster? | 06:40 |
| juiceme | Meaning, the DB's are on the disk, if I insert SQL when in preboot, will Tracker throw the wrench in corner when it starts? | 06:41 |
| special | no idea, that is far outside the realm of sanity | 06:41 |
| juiceme | well I am not known for sanity :) | 06:41 |
| juiceme | If I follow the DB schema rigorously it _should_ be doable | 06:42 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7812 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7812 | 06:47 |
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| kontio | w00t: Vesuri: special: can one of you review quickly https://github.com/nemomobile/commhistory-daemon/pull/2 ? | 07:35 |
| special | kontio: looking | 07:35 |
| kontio | thx not a difficult one :-) | 07:35 |
| special | merged; there's another change sitting in libcommhistory anyway, do you want a release? | 07:38 |
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| kontio | there is a change in .spec needed, so if you could make a release, then I would also make a SR in obs, with new tarball | 07:40 |
| kontio | special: ^ | 07:40 |
| * special just realized that was commhistory-daemon, not libcommhistory | 07:41 | |
| special | I'm clearly qualified to be reviewing code at midnight | 07:41 |
| kontio | :) | 07:42 |
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| kontio | special: but I want to add the libcommhistory unit tests also to a tests package, would probably need the same changes as commhistory-daemon... | 07:44 |
| special | kontio: bumped version and tagged | 07:44 |
| kontio | special: ok, thx, I will make tarball and SR in OBS then | 07:45 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7818 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7818 | 07:49 |
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| PMG | Any objections against merging of this timed test-related pull request: https://github.com/nemomobile/timed/pull/10 ? | 08:09 |
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| special | nope | 08:11 |
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| iekku | oh, jukka has invented cloning machine? | 08:14 |
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| dm8tbr | iekku: massive parallel social media handling ;) | 08:16 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7820 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7820 | 08:19 |
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| iekku | dm8tbr, he truly is master of some :P | 08:22 |
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| zchydem | morning | 08:26 |
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| sledges | g'morning | 08:43 |
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| kontio | phaeron: SR 7820 is a simple one, just adds -tests package and a tests.xml adapted for nemo, I tested the package, tests can be ran with testrunner-lite | 09:18 |
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| niqt | morning | 09:51 |
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| Aard | sampos: just found out why the mtp-icon is in the users home on n9 -- that way it gets used for the device when using mass storage :) | 10:21 |
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| sampos | Aard: ahaa :) | 11:46 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7821 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7821 | 12:48 |
| kontio | ^ more test packages... | 12:49 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7822 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7822 | 12:57 |
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| phaeron | Sage: ^^ | 13:13 |
| topro | is there a readson for why n900 gets new random wlan mac addr on each boot? | 13:13 |
| topro | reason | 13:13 |
| w00t | I thought there was a workaround script/package/??? for that someplace | 13:15 |
| w00t | Stskeeps or Sage might remember | 13:15 |
| Stskeeps | it shouldn't | 13:15 |
| topro | though it does :( | 13:16 |
| topro | ^^ using the latest image from http://releases.nemomobile.org/snapshots/ | 13:21 |
| Stskeeps | rpm -qa | grep wl1251-cal | 13:21 |
| topro | is it supposed to use the real nokia mac | 13:21 |
| Stskeeps | think so | 13:22 |
| topro | Stskeeps: mom, reboot from maemo to nemo | 13:22 |
| topro | Stskeeps: wl1251-cal-bin-0.18-3.1.Nemo.Adaptation.N900.armv7hl | 13:25 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 13:25 |
| Stskeeps | systemctl | grep wl1251 | 13:25 |
| topro | wl1251-cal.service loaded failed failed wl1251-cal service to set wlan0 MAC address | 13:26 |
| topro | ^^ literal paste | 13:27 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, perhaps good idea to look at journalctl | 13:27 |
| Stskeeps | for why it failed | 13:27 |
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| topro | wl1251-cal.service: main process exited, code=exited, status=1 | 13:29 |
| topro | unit wl1251-cal.service entered failed state | 13:29 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 13:30 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 13:30 |
| Stskeeps | how about sysinfod? | 13:30 |
| topro | ERROR: couldn't get product model, falling back to default PP bit configuration | 13:31 |
| Stskeeps | did you by chance nuke your CAL at some point? | 13:31 |
| topro | CAL? | 13:31 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, a little area with the lock code, etc | 13:32 |
| topro | in hardware you mean? | 13:32 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 13:32 |
| topro | well, booting maemo givees me a valid mac addr | 13:32 |
| topro | like 57:5c:... | 13:33 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 13:33 |
| topro | i had this same behavior with early versions of meego 1.2 those days, but the latest meego versions mac addr was correct | 13:34 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7823 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7823 | 13:35 |
| topro | the point with ever-changing mac address is that after each boot I would have to add another mac-addr to my wifi router mac-filter | 13:38 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 13:38 |
| Stskeeps | it should be working, sysinfod in systemctl? | 13:39 |
| topro | sorry? | 13:40 |
| Stskeeps | systemctl | grep sysinfod | 13:40 |
| topro | ah | 13:40 |
| topro | Stskeeps: no match at all | 13:42 |
| Stskeeps | hmmm | 13:43 |
| Stskeeps | rpm -qa | grep sysinfo | 13:43 |
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| topro | too much to type. is there a simple way to setup usb-networking? | 13:45 |
| spiiroin | topro, Stskeeps: that "falling back ..." error message makes me think N9 sysinfod - and this was n900 hw? | 13:46 |
| topro | n900 here | 13:46 |
| Stskeeps | sysinfod-rx51 should be on n900 | 13:46 |
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| topro | i.e. sysinfod-rx51-bin is there | 13:48 |
| Stskeeps | ok hmm | 13:49 |
| Stskeeps | so maybe it doesn't get started, sage? | 13:49 |
| topro | together with libsysinfo-rx51-bin, sysinfod-rx51-[common-bin|udev-rules|trool-bin] | 13:49 |
| topro | whats the binary called, ps aux | grep ??? | 13:50 |
| Stskeeps | sysinfo | 13:50 |
| Stskeeps | d | 13:50 |
| topro | not running | 13:50 |
| Stskeeps | well, that's probably why calibration fails then | 13:51 |
| jonwil | FYI, I made a clone of wl1251-CAL a while back in case someone wants to understand what its really doing :) | 13:55 |
| jonwil | same with the bluetooth stuff for setting the MAC address :) | 13:55 |
| topro | ok, i got usb networking running. so debugging should be ways easier now | 13:56 |
| topro | jonwil: you know the command to query the bt mac, please? | 14:00 |
| topro | hciconfig? | 14:00 |
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| jonwil | Do you mean how to read it from the CAL or from the bluetooth hardware? | 14:01 |
| jonwil | for reading from the hardware you should be able to do cat /sys/devices/platform/hci_h4p/bdaddr | 14:03 |
| jonwil | for reading from the CAL area I have code at http://www.cncmods.net/files/bt-cal_1.0-1.tar.gz that does it | 14:03 |
| jonwil | It basically reads the bluetooth MAC address from the CAL and writes it to that /sys location | 14:03 |
| jonwil | where the kernel driver will then make use of it | 14:04 |
| topro | cat /sys/devices/platform/hci_h4p/bdaddr is 00:00:00:00:00:00 | 14:07 |
| topro | so same issue as with wlan mac? | 14:07 |
| jonwil | Your issue is clearly that sysinfod isn't running | 14:08 |
| jonwil | either because its missing or because its not starting properly | 14:08 |
| topro | you know how it should get started? init script? | 14:09 |
| jonwil | not sure | 14:09 |
| topro | which sysinfod returns /usr/sbin/sysinfod | 14:09 |
| topro | so its there | 14:09 |
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| jonwil | I think sysinfod might be started via udev | 14:12 |
| jonwil | Not sure though | 14:12 |
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| topro | can I start it by hand to see some console output, maybe if it crashes? | 14:18 |
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| topro | ok, we already did that. starting sysinfod gives me: ERROR: couldn't get product model, falling back to default PP bit configuration | 14:31 |
| topro | but it doesn't crash | 14:32 |
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| topro | would that be the same reason why battery indicator is not working or is that just not implemented, yet? | 14:36 |
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| sledges | Sage, I updated wiki with updated (rolling) links and --pkgmgr=zypp: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK | 15:52 |
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| juiceme | Hi, what would you like to see as a logo for Nemo in a boot screen? | 16:46 |
| juiceme | I have kind of used the "sail-like" logo from qwazix's blog, and then there is the "captain's band" kind of logo... | 16:47 |
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| juiceme | So quick show of hands, which is better? | 16:48 |
| juiceme | Or is there something else...? | 16:48 |
| sledges | juiceme, thanks for questioning, but: http://polldaddy.com/poll/6679035 | 16:49 |
| sledges | :) | 16:49 |
| sledges | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/File:New-splash-nemo-800x480.png | 16:50 |
| juiceme | oo thanks gfor the link sledges | 16:50 |
| sledges | now it would be awesome if you could replace the existing logo | 16:50 |
| sledges | I tried quickly: size and palette messed up (palette yellowing is a known issue) | 16:50 |
| sledges | on N9 | 16:50 |
| sledges | but size is something new. I think that png has to be re-encoded (RGB indexed mode?) | 16:51 |
| juiceme | well, I am currently tuning my multiboot screen :) | 16:51 |
| juiceme | the logo is for that purpos | 16:51 |
| sledges | oh ok :) | 16:51 |
| juiceme | s/purpos/purpose/ | 16:51 |
| sledges | so the multiboot screen logo should sport not only nemo? ;) | 16:51 |
| juiceme | Am thinking of having some nice animations on it :) | 16:52 |
| juiceme | there is Harmattan, Nitdroid, Nemo | 16:52 |
| sledges | ok that's interesting :) | 16:52 |
| juiceme | and several kernels to select with too :) | 16:52 |
| sledges | anyway, here with me I have other sizes: 858x480 and 1280x1024 (used on monitor with pandaboard nemo) | 16:52 |
| sledges | ask away if you need | 16:53 |
| juiceme | well several kernels to Harmattan, anyways, I have just one Nitdroid kernel and Nemo with the latest... | 16:53 |
| juiceme | The needed logo in the boot menu is small, it's just a button to press, size about 200x200 | 16:54 |
| sledges | the awesomest thing would be to have nemo bootsplash logo be different size (w/o distortions) for every Nokia (N9 = 858x460, N9x0 = 800x480) | 16:54 |
| sledges | (for this, one has to check /etc/board-info file) | 16:55 |
| sledges | juiceme, ok, I can make one for you in a swift | 16:55 |
| sledges | I thought you are going to address the bootsplash altogether ;) | 16:55 |
| sledges | anyway, know you know the situation :P | 16:55 |
| juiceme | I am thinking about having a first-level screen with 3 icons, Harmattan/Nidtdoid/Nemo, then when user selects one, the others will fade away and the kernel selection for the boot-Os will come up, then some fadeaway animation and boot to the selected OS with selected kernel | 16:56 |
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| sledges | so you'd have two phases? one for distro, and then for kernel? | 16:57 |
| sledges | like - open and closed mode for harmattan? :) | 16:57 |
| sledges | or multiple nemo kernels for developers? ;) sounds fun! | 16:57 |
| juiceme | yes, I thought about havin everything in one list but this seems neater :) | 16:57 |
| juiceme | multiple kernels here is a must :) | 16:58 |
| sledges | :) | 16:58 |
| juiceme | I need that feature for myself, as I change kernels a lot, now it's not anumore necessary to ever flash the device again, just copy kernel and modules to the device and boot it ? | 16:58 |
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| juiceme | s/?/!/ | 16:59 |
| juiceme | or actually rather s/\?/\!/ | 16:59 |
| juiceme | :) | 17:00 |
| qwazix | Hm, I should announce the final logo on the blog it seems... | 17:00 |
| sledges | hey qwazix :) well, it has been outnumbered, hasn't it? :) | 17:00 |
| juiceme | hi qwazix, I've been privately using your "sail-logo" :) | 17:00 |
| sledges | I liked sail- more, but now the more I look at the winner, the more i like it :) | 17:00 |
| qwazix | You're welcome to use whatever you like, but the winner is official | 17:01 |
| sledges | even my fiancee said the captain insignia is better - because it has a distinct shape - recognisable from a distance | 17:01 |
| juiceme | the winner is simple, that's why it has best reception, it does not really offend anyone... | 17:02 |
| sledges | juiceme, how's this one? https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/File:New-splash-nemo-200x200.png | 17:02 |
| qwazix | sledges, I like that logo too, even if it's not mine. It's very well made | 17:02 |
| sledges | and/or not mistaken for a shark fin ;) | 17:02 |
| juiceme | That should be perfect :) | 17:03 |
| qwazix | hehe | 17:03 |
| juiceme | Altough I am not sure about the text, the insignia should stand by itself | 17:03 |
| juiceme | Yes, the sharkfin, or sailfis-fin is reserved for the future :) | 17:04 |
| sledges | just reuploaded less edgy and more marginalised one: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/File:New-splash-nemo-200x200.png | 17:05 |
| juiceme | Up to now, I have had the OS-logoes just pictures, with no text | 17:05 |
| sledges | qwazix, could you make an SVG version available please? :) | 17:05 |
| juiceme | how about black background? | 17:06 |
| juiceme | do you think it would be recognizable? | 17:06 |
| juiceme | if there was just the insignia part, in light blue and no text? | 17:07 |
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| sledges | I find the logo looks pretty neat on pandaboard/monitor: http://i1260.photobucket.com/albums/ii567/sledgas/mer/nemo/13020073_zpse11e920d.jpg (ignore the lens/refresh stripes, in reality is even more smooth ;)) | 17:12 |
| sledges | juiceme, I see you are trying to integrate it with your bootloader theme ;P | 17:14 |
| juiceme | yes | 17:15 |
| sledges | for this we'll need source files from qwazix :) | 17:16 |
| sledges | though he said it wasn't his (?) logo | 17:16 |
| juiceme | sledges, the visual image I am looking for is something close to this; http://www.swagman.org/juice/4-item-menu.png | 17:17 |
| juiceme | That is what my current menu looks like, but there is no kernel selection yet, each OS has its static kernel in this menu | 17:18 |
| sledges | understood | 17:18 |
| juiceme | I am not that happy with the Nemo logo on this screen, as it has both coloured background and text, but I made it in a hurry | 17:19 |
| sledges | you can try this one: http://node4.nirvanix.com/polldaddy/polldaddy/images/fd0723d71f3c530851eed7787add2a88.png | 17:19 |
| juiceme | Now as I am going to announce my bootloader I would like to make it look nice and uniform... | 17:20 |
| sledges | sure :) | 17:21 |
| juiceme | That one is fairly nice, as it has the mirroring effect and all... but consider, we are talking about png's on a N9 screen here :) | 17:21 |
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| juiceme | I am not sure it renders so beautifully on the device | 17:21 |
| sledges | well, it's all about colourspace isn't it | 17:22 |
| juiceme | Trying won't hurt, though | 17:22 |
| * sledges haven't experimented with graphics in early boot stages | 17:22 | |
| sledges | I suggest remove reflection | 17:22 |
| sledges | for logo to be more squarey | 17:22 |
| juiceme | I can try it both versions, with the reflection and without. | 17:23 |
| sledges | but I'd also wait for source files of the winner logo, because we'll unleash nemo everywhere with the captain insignia one.. | 17:23 |
| sledges | yes, but with reflection you won'ŧ fit into 200x200 (or the sail+reflection will be very thin) | 17:23 |
| sledges | depends how much you are in a hurry :) | 17:24 |
| juiceme | well I am not in too-much hurry, altough people are asking me to launch it :) | 17:25 |
| juiceme | I have been now running my device in multiboot mode for a week, since I got it working and it is definitely nice :) | 17:26 |
| qwazix | sorry, I was distracted, I think I have the sources here, I'll check, but isn't it better to use the final logo everywhere? | 17:31 |
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| qwazix | hm, no, I don't have it here I'll have to search my other computers | 17:34 |
| sledges | I saved you :) | 17:35 |
| sledges | juiceme, https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/File:New-splash-nemo-black-200x200.png | 17:35 |
| sledges | I feel very motivated when it comes about logos :))) | 17:36 |
| sledges | i.e. everything about logos except actually drawing them :)) | 17:37 |
| juiceme | sledges, the last one is something I had in mind :) | 17:39 |
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| sledges | now it looks quite a bit too cyan (reminds me of old CGA screens :)) http://www.typewritten.org/Media/Images/cga-graphics-sample.gif | 17:41 |
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| juiceme | its just navy_blue :) | 17:42 |
| juiceme | but it is true the background affects the colours placed on it | 17:42 |
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| sledges | exactly | 17:44 |
| sledges | here's a darkened one: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/File:New-splash-nemo-black-200x200.png | 17:44 |
| sledges | (with last retouches :)) | 17:44 |
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| sledges | I'd say navy blue is this one: http://www.frederickscleveleys.co.uk/content/images/thumbs/0001441_lacoste_original_l1212_plain_polo_shirt_navy_blue.jpeg (depends on your monitor colour profile too :)) | 17:50 |
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| joernchen | hi | 18:07 |
| juiceme | okay... quick mockup, menu would look something like this; http://www.swagman.org/juice/new_3_item_menu.png | 18:10 |
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| juiceme | maybe I should add one extra "info" button, which could show an owner-panel, name and address for returning if device gets lost.. | 18:12 |
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| sledges | hi joernchen | 18:27 |
| joernchen | hey, just bzcatinÃ' nemo on my n900 =) | 18:30 |
| juiceme | This would be the menu with info... : http://www.swagman.org/juice/new_3_item_menu_with_info.png | 18:31 |
| sledges | \o/ | 18:32 |
| sledges | juiceme, there's a weird bit left over from circle under first block in nemo insignia in your mockup &) | 18:38 |
| * sledges someone slap me for being pedantic | 18:39 | |
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| juiceme | sledges, I can fix it, actually saw it myself. the circle goes bit over the topmost bar. | 18:54 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | hello everybody | 19:48 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | does anyone knows where is nemo copy of "libsignon" ? | 19:49 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | is nemo based on upstream signon or uses a specific one ? | 19:49 |
| Stskeeps | mer has libsignon now | 19:50 |
| Stskeeps | and i think it's based on upstream | 19:50 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | well, which upstream ? | 19:51 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | there are at least 3 repo | 19:51 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | gitorious, google code, and one on launchpad | 19:51 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | launchpad cannot be upstream i think | 19:51 |
| Stskeeps | code.google.com/p/accounts-sso/ | 19:51 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | thanks :) | 19:51 |
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| sledges | how weird juiceme, the circle overshoot is not visible on here: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/File:New-splash-nemo-black-200x200.png | 23:42 |
| sledges | twilight zone :) | 23:42 |
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| chriadam | gmorning | 23:49 |
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