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| Sleepy_Coder | testing something :> | 00:14 |
| Sleepy_Coder | (not spam I swear) | 00:14 |
| Sleepy_Coder | special: if it's not plaintext I get sex. | 00:16 |
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| iekku | mornign | 04:12 |
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| rantom | Morning | 05:39 |
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| sledges | moring | 07:10 |
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| Sage | morning | 07:37 |
| zchydem | sledges: did you manage to get back to home safely from Brussels? | 07:38 |
| Stskeeps | morn sage, zchydem | 07:39 |
| zchydem | Stskeeps: feeling better? | 07:39 |
| Stskeeps | a little bit, probably was a good idea to not fly to helsinki | 07:39 |
| zchydem | well traveling when sick sucks | 07:40 |
| sledges | zchydem, thanks, swapping drivers eased up the journey. You're back on track fine? | 07:43 |
| zchydem | sledges: yes, everthing went fine | 07:44 |
| zchydem | everything | 07:44 |
| sledges | good stuff | 07:45 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7811 Accepted promotion request | 08:12 |
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| niqt | morning | 08:33 |
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| sledges | hi niqt | 09:42 |
| niqt | hi sledges | 09:45 |
| niqt | the channel is silent, are jollas working hard? | 09:46 |
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| Aard | yep | 09:48 |
| dm8tbr | they always are :) | 09:54 |
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| goze | should I as a end-user switch from Maemo to Nemo on my N900? | 10:20 |
| sledges | rantom is testing Nemo on N900 at the moment btw | 10:21 |
| dm8tbr | depends on what you're looking for in a mobile phone os | 10:21 |
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| sledges | what are the implications in having meego-handset-maps (i.e. Nokia Maps) in Nemo? | 10:31 |
| sledges | is it as free as OpenStreetMaps? | 10:32 |
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| sledges | Sage, this got stuck, needs kicking :) https://build.pub.meego.com/request/show/7781 | 11:16 |
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| rantom | sledges: no, I am not. I have Nemo on my N950 | 11:35 |
| rantom | My N900 was recently re-flashed and I do not have uboot in it to boot Nemo | 11:36 |
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| sledges | ok, mixed up rantom :) it was topro on N900 ;) | 11:37 |
| gry | rantom: heh, you have them both, how peculiar | 11:37 |
| rantom | I am planning to reinstall ubooy again once the repositories are up again | 11:37 |
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| rantom | uboot* | 11:38 |
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| topro | sledges: some feedback of my nemo-on-n900 experience requested? | 11:44 |
| sledges | not explicitly, just goze had a question recently, should they switch from maemo to nemo | 11:45 |
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| topro | interesting question ;) but goze, you can try without doing any harm to your maemo-installation, just dual-boot with nemo installation on micro-sd card | 11:46 |
| topro | try nemo | 11:46 |
| sledges | well, the question was "should I as a end-user switch from Maemo to Nemo on my N900?" :) | 11:46 |
| sledges | yes, trying doesn't cost anything | 11:47 |
| topro | sledges: then to be honest, my answer at the current state would be "no" for an end-customer | 11:48 |
| sledges | mhm, maemo at the moment is more full fledged and 'productised' (given the years of developemnt ;)) | 11:48 |
| topro | I personally was even using my openmoko for about an year as my primary phone, but you have to be really brave | 11:48 |
| sledges | +1 | 11:48 |
| sledges | :) I used it too, was even navigating around with AndNav on Cupcake 1.5 | 11:49 |
| sledges | my first satnav lol, when approaching a junction would sometimes crash :DDD | 11:49 |
| sledges | though I'm still alive | 11:49 |
| topro | but you mustn't hear to your friends complaining about poor voice quality :) | 11:49 |
| sledges | just because you don't [hear them] :D | 11:50 |
| topro | well voice on moko-side was ok. but on the other caller side was really poor, due to different sw/hw bugs on moko-microphone | 11:50 |
| sledges | :) are you following GTA04 topro ? | 11:51 |
| topro | actually no, I was interested in those times (3g connectivity on moko) but then I got attention to n900 (before falling and getting myself a robot-phone) | 11:51 |
| sledges | rowboat? | 11:52 |
| topro | android | 11:52 |
| sledges | ah | 11:52 |
| sledges | :) | 11:52 |
| topro | but i learned my lesson, dumped it, am back with my n900 to fill the gap until there is something sailfish-y to get my finger on :) | 11:53 |
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| sledges | :) lessons learned well | 11:54 |
| topro | why I would like to use nemo on n900 is to be prepared for mer/sailfish userland once its time. should not be too different from an app's perspective, right? | 11:56 |
| sledges | yup | 11:57 |
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| topro | would there be an app sdk working for all mer-based distros or would nemo, sailfish and all those need their own naitive app sdk? | 12:19 |
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| Stskeeps | there's no common app story in mer | 12:25 |
| topro | Stskeeps: ok got that. but at least nemo and sailfishos claim to eventually both support html5 (cordova) apps, right? | 12:42 |
| Stskeeps | right | 12:42 |
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| topro | and both use the same framework for native apps (Qt/Qml), right? | 12:43 |
| Stskeeps | right | 12:43 |
| topro | so at least for those two targets apps would be source-code compatible? | 12:43 |
| topro | or even binary? | 12:44 |
| sledges | but what if you write an app which shows an image, what API calls will you use to share that image (on social site e.g.) ? | 12:44 |
| sledges | or add a notification to global UI system | 12:44 |
| sledges | or a newsfeed to homescreen | 12:44 |
| topro | ok, so those things are even out of mer-scope? | 12:45 |
| sledges | those are all UX-specific OS-agnostic features, and each OS will offer their API :{ | 12:45 |
| topro | well i was hoping there would be a little more compatibility layer to join forces | 12:46 |
| sledges | but that involves a massive amount of collaboration | 12:46 |
| sledges | ok, Nemo doesn't have a homescreen (or feeds' screen) | 12:46 |
| sledges | but it does have notifications (which just pop up, and don't land anywhere) | 12:46 |
| sledges | so it's quite rudimentary | 12:46 |
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| sledges | now there will be talks between Sailfish (Jolla) and UbuntuPhone on common API, hopefully fruitful | 12:48 |
| sledges | on Nemo side, maybe Jolla will upstream some sophisticated sailfish notification/homescreen/social-sharing/accounts-interconectivity frameworks to Nemo ;) | 12:49 |
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| topro | i'm just afraid that without joined forces there will simply be too little eco-system leading to too little interest. but I think thats trivial | 13:14 |
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| sledges | well, Sailfish can run Android apps fwiw :) | 13:21 |
| topro | maybe like wetab-os did ;) | 13:22 |
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| Sage | phaeron: 7781 is stuck | 13:40 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7190 Rejected promotion request | 13:54 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7605 Rejected promotion request | 13:55 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7512 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7512 | 13:55 |
| sledges | hmm today Nemo on N9: Problem: nothing provides pulseaudio-modules-nemo-music >= 2.1.3 needed by pulseaudio-settings-n950-2.1.3-1.1.Nemo.Adaptation.N950.N9.noarch | 13:56 |
| sledges | shall I keep obsolete pulseaudio-settings-n950 or break dependency? or cancel :D | 13:57 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7421 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7421 | 14:00 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7374 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7374 | 14:02 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7326 Rejected promotion request | 14:02 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7393 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7393 | 14:06 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7396 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7396 | 14:08 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7458 Rejected promotion request | 14:08 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7191 Rejected promotion request | 14:09 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7292 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7292 | 14:10 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7610 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7610 | 14:16 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7792 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7792 | 14:16 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7373 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7373 | 14:17 |
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| sledges | 8] | 14:17 |
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| phaeron | sorry, never mind the dust | 14:19 |
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| sledges | strange, since some are already accepted :) | 14:19 |
| phaeron | you mean revoked | 14:20 |
| sledges | yup &) | 14:20 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7271 Rejected promotion request | 14:21 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7781 Rejected promotion request | 14:21 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7389 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7389 | 14:22 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7439 Rejected promotion request | 14:23 |
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| Sage | o_0 | 14:33 |
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| timmy | i want to boot up nemo by flashing its kernel using the flasher. nemo mobile is flashed on microSD card, what paramets should I enter for booting that? | 16:01 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | hello ! | 18:18 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | hello sledges | 18:18 |
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| kontio | "tracker-control --status" gives me: Store - Unavailable, in a Vbox Nemo image, any idea what goes wrong? | 20:07 |
| kontio | i486 | 20:08 |
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| DaltonX | noob question: I'm trying to build a Nemo image using the Mer platform SDK with the following cmdline "sudo mic create livecd -A i586 -o . handset-i586-vm.ks", but this fails with "Error <creator>: Failed to build transaction : syslinux-extlinux-4.05-1.2.i586 requires libc.so.6". Any idea why? | 21:27 |
| DaltonX | and there is bunch more "x requires y" lines | 21:29 |
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| sledges | Sage, can only phaeron kick this: https://build.pub.meego.com/request/show/7812 :) | 22:50 |
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