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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7779 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7779 | 05:16 |
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| kjokinie1 | Stskeeps: Sage: I've been doing some u-boot tinkering lately and would like to document some findings, would it be ok if I add a u-boot sub-page to here https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation_Guide/Step_by_step#Make_a_bootloader_package_.28if_needed_for_the_image.29 | 09:22 |
| kjokinie1 | Sage: Stskeeps: it's been more in nemo-mobile context, so not sure if it's right place to be in mer wiki | 09:24 |
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| sampos | Aard: when you have time, could we have a small discussion about device icon? Not very urgent. | 09:26 |
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| Sage | kjokinie1: sure | 09:42 |
| Sage | kjokinie1: refactoring could be nice as https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation_Guide is mainly kernel comments :P | 09:42 |
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| kulve | Sage: see the step-by-step guide | 09:43 |
| kulve | I guess those two pages should be merged somehow | 09:44 |
| kulve | or merged and then divided properly to two | 09:44 |
| kjokinie1 | at least the step by step guide should be bit more visible on the front page | 09:46 |
| kjokinie1 | ok, but I will add my stuff about u-boot to the step-by-step guide | 09:47 |
| kjokinie1 | but thinking on improving the page overall, do you guys have any knowledge will the meego.com wikies get nuked at some point? | 09:48 |
| kjokinie1 | the meego porting guide is actually something that should be salvaged from there | 09:49 |
| kulve | wasn't there a mail about running down the meego.com infra (at least mailing lists and obs) in May? | 09:50 |
| kjokinie1 | ok, maybe I just go copy the page for myself for later use ;) | 09:51 |
| Aard | sampos: what about it? | 09:52 |
| kjokinie1 | could import some of that stuff then to this step-by-step guide... | 09:53 |
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| sampos | Aard: i'm wondering where to but the icon file | 10:04 |
| sampos | or to what package | 10:05 |
| Aard | /usr/share/mtp/, next to the deviceinfo.xml | 10:05 |
| Aard | I'll split deviceinfo.xml and the icon file into a separate package at some point, to allow vendor specific configuration | 10:06 |
| sampos | ok, that's what i was hoping for | 10:06 |
| Aard | so, if you just add icon file support I can handle the packaging before submitting it to nemo | 10:07 |
| sampos | great | 10:08 |
| Aard | another thing, loosely related -- currently we have mtp data all over the users home. I'd like to have one mtp config directory in the home, set centrally, and used by all modules | 10:08 |
| sledges | good mooring | 10:11 |
| sampos | https://github.com/samposa/buteo-mtp/tree/feadevicon | 10:12 |
| Aard | is that a tab in mtptypes.h? | 10:14 |
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| sampos | no, but fixed the formatting there MTP_EV_ObjectPropChanged | 10:17 |
| Aard | you didn't include an icon, though? | 10:19 |
| sampos | no, that's the other thing to discuss | 10:19 |
| sampos | could it be e.g. n9 icon with nemo logo on the screen? :) | 10:20 |
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| Aard | depends on the source of the n9 icon :) | 10:21 |
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| sampos | *krhm* | 10:22 |
| sampos | sledges: you are the artist? sudo make icon | 10:22 |
| Aard | sampos: should I just pull from your branch? | 10:25 |
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| sampos | sure, if it looks ok to you | 10:27 |
| sampos | ah i have a bug for that also, does it change things ? | 10:27 |
| sampos | for the deviceIcon support i mean | 10:28 |
| Aard | it would be nicer to mention the bug in the commit message | 10:28 |
| sampos | ah true | 10:28 |
| Aard | the code does not look obviously insane to me, so I'll just want to test it on device | 10:29 |
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| sampos | did --amend with the bug mentioned | 10:32 |
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| kjokinie1 | Sage: just some continuation of the adaptation wiki discussion, it says "The bootloader should pass a kernel command line (or this can be set in the CONFIG_CMDLINE kernel configuration) that sets systemd.unit=start.getty " in the wiki | 10:40 |
| kjokinie1 | Sage: could we just add that to mer_verify_kernel_config script? | 10:41 |
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| sledges | sampos, I'm amateur, but know how to re-use other's creations :D | 11:19 |
| sledges | so you need an N9 with (new) nemo logo on? | 11:19 |
| sledges | can provide rasters | 11:19 |
| sledges | tell me sizes (8x8 16x16 32x32 64x64, any else? :) | 11:20 |
| sampos | those should do me thinks | 11:20 |
| sledges | any requests on the colour of the background? | 11:21 |
| sledges | and squircles desired I believe :)) | 11:21 |
| timoph | pink ;) | 11:21 |
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| sampos | i'm happy with anything i can get :) | 11:21 |
| sledges | what's the buteo thing? | 11:21 |
| sledges | *this | 11:22 |
| sledges | :) | 11:22 |
| Aard | sampos: hm, seems it's possible to break mtp if there's an old version of ~/.mtpdeviceinfo.xml around | 11:22 |
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| sledges | is it something we see when we plug in our Harmattan N9's and mount their disks? | 11:22 |
| sampos | that's mass storage mode i gues | 11:23 |
| sledges | yup. I can just re-use the mass storage icon from N9 harmattan and blob nemo onto it | 11:24 |
| sampos | that would do it :) | 11:24 |
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| sampos | not sure about copyright issues though | 11:26 |
| Aard | sledges: no, won't work, copyrighted icon | 11:26 |
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| Aard | sledges: I hope to get icons from our designer in the near future | 11:27 |
| sledges | &{ so if you tell me where this buteo-mtp be used (for MTP transfers?), and where will the icon appear (only in Launcher?), then I can prop up from something darko- existing | 11:28 |
| sampos | sledges: yes for mtp transfers | 11:28 |
| sledges | and where will the icon appear? only in launcher? | 11:28 |
| sampos | the icon appears e.g. in windows explorer when one plugs the device | 11:29 |
| sledges | ok | 11:29 |
| sledges | might prop up something | 11:29 |
| sampos | no pressure :) | 11:29 |
| sledges | is MTP this weird thing what e.g. Samsung Galaxy S2 has? sort-of mass storage, but not really &) | 11:29 |
| * sledges is analfabet in this one :)) | 11:29 | |
| sampos | yeah, i guess you are seeing mtp there :) | 11:30 |
| sledges | ok :) | 11:30 |
| sampos | Aard: how badly did it break? | 11:31 |
| sampos | timoph: has saunabad turned you into hello kitty fan also ? | 11:32 |
| timoph | no | 11:32 |
| Aard | sampos: windows said 'can't copy, device is not talking to me', and then it was over. so, stalling, but this time with warning :) | 11:32 |
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| Aard | I think it was a mismatch between 'can do ogg' in the binary and 'can't do ogg' in the deviceinfo file | 11:32 |
| sampos | cool | 11:33 |
| Aard | sampos: two things, how big should the icon be? and, can we use png? or use png, and recode it? | 11:33 |
| sampos | i think it should be .ico | 11:34 |
| Aard | sledges: our designer is doing the icons, no need to worry about it | 11:34 |
| Aard | size? | 11:34 |
| * sampos checks the documentation | 11:34 | |
| sampos | 16x16 32x32 and 48x48 is the minimum | 11:37 |
| sampos | i guess there could be 64x64 128x128 too | 11:37 |
| sledges | sharps :D just found a nice one to modify: http://www.veryicon.com/icon/png/System/Black%20Glossy/USB.png | 11:37 |
| sledges | ;) | 11:37 |
| sampos | http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms997538.aspx | 11:37 |
| sampos | http://www.winterdrache.de/freeware/png2ico/index.html | 11:38 |
| sampos | for creating .ico from pngs | 11:38 |
| sampos | seemed to work, i guess gimp can be used also | 11:38 |
| Aard | sampos: it's not about not knowing how to create .ico files, it's about beeing unhappy about the format :p | 11:40 |
| sampos | :) | 11:40 |
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| Sage | kjokinie1: it could be there, though it is optional thing. | 11:40 |
| sampos | well mtp spec mentions .ico | 11:41 |
| Aard | sampos: but no icon sizes? | 11:41 |
| sledges | it's windows dependent | 11:41 |
| Sage | kjokinie1: https://github.com/lbt/mer-kernel-check/pull/4 some changes for mer verify kernel config | 11:41 |
| sampos | it links to that msnd.. | 11:41 |
| sledges | IIRC windows could want up to 48x48 with all intermittent smaller ones. | 11:42 |
| sledges | but my knowledge heads back to Windows XP Win32 API ;) | 11:42 |
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| kjokinie1 | Sage: ok, I might do a patch for that | 11:46 |
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| sledges | ok, kludged in a %build post for now - works: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=u-boot-omap4panda.spec&package=u-boot-omap4panda&project=home%3Asledge%3Abranches%3ACE%3AAdaptation%3APandaBoard&rev=e7d63bf9d888fbe3cb5d7c5089fc0a2c | 12:38 |
| sledges | %build pre and post that is | 12:38 |
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| Sage | sledges: eh that is hackish looking :P | 12:44 |
| sledges | ;) well, I did to my best knowledge | 12:44 |
| Sage | sure you can't use just straight the upstream version? 2013.1 for example? | 12:44 |
| sledges | surely not for kernel | 12:45 |
| Sage | that is anyway 2012.04 and maybe everything is upstreamed already just nobody bothered to update | 12:45 |
| sledges | but for u-boot - haven'ลง tried | 12:45 |
| Sage | well, kernel understandable, u-boot could work | 12:45 |
| sledges | I'm using everything from ubuntu, hence TI PPA's | 12:45 |
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| sledges | and for kernel is surely not everything mainstreamed | 12:45 |
| sledges | for uboot - as I said, I don't know | 12:46 |
| sledges | but your u-boot 2012.07 didn't work with TI PPA's updated kernel ;) | 12:46 |
| Sage | maybe some cmdline change needed? | 12:46 |
| Sage | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=u-boot-scr-pandaboard.txt&package=u-boot-omap4panda&project=home%3Asledge%3Abranches%3ACE%3AAdaptation%3APandaBoard&rev=daa2b931aa6d0dc6752b7601819ebb98 <- remember this | 12:46 |
| sledges | surely will remember this one, thanks | 12:47 |
| sledges | I've always used my own overriden cmd line (too boot from USB HDD etc.) | 12:48 |
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| sledges | works with every kernel/uboot combo, except 2012.07 - 3.4.0-1489.22 (3.4.27 rebase) | 12:48 |
| sledges | but it's 3.4.0-1489.22 I'm sticking with (as it is the best kernel thus far) | 12:49 |
| sledges | PS, Sage why did you use linaro kernel? | 12:49 |
| * sledges didn't realise he's no longer talking in #mer ;) where /me originally posted the 'bad-dir:{name}' question :) | 12:50 | |
| sledges | and Panda is approaching EOL, so many DSS reworks are in 3.8-rc4, but stable PM & MM is going to stay with 3.4 line | 12:51 |
| sledges | so I want to arrive to a compromise | 12:51 |
| Sage | sledges: well originally I based everyting linaro | 12:52 |
| Sage | sledges: well this kind of stuff belongs to #nemomobile more than to #mer | 12:53 |
| sledges | (the TI PPA's ubuntu uboot for whatever reasons linaro's, too, but kernel is not) | 12:53 |
| sledges | Sage, this specific stuff, yes, so I'm happy we're talking here | 12:53 |
| Sage | I though those were the same thing originally | 12:53 |
| Sage | linaro and ubuntu ppa | 12:53 |
| sledges | but in #mer I posed a generic questoins about tarballs with weird names | 12:53 |
| sledges | well, the kernel looks like it took its own ways | 12:53 |
| sledges | bbiab | 13:01 |
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| phako | which sb2 pattern do I need for the n9? | 14:58 |
| phako | v7 or v7l? | 14:58 |
| phako | er hl | 14:58 |
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| yunta | hl afaik | 15:17 |
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| phako | thx | 15:20 |
| Aard | sampos: did you manage to get the icon displayed? | 15:27 |
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| sledges | Sage, TI PPA is the reference kernel. Linaro is not quickly synced with official TI releases. But structure is shuffling in TI as you know, and long term we will be looking in adopting the mainline kernel. | 16:15 |
| sledges | for now, I will use the most time+feature tested one - hence TI official PPA one | 16:16 |
| sledges | because it's good for a demo | 16:16 |
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| sledges | looks more elegant/clean now Sage with a macro ;) still hacky: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=u-boot-omap4panda.spec&package=u-boot-omap4panda&project=home%3Asledge%3Abranches%3ACE%3AAdaptation%3APandaBoard&rev=e7d63bf9d888fbe3cb5d7c5089fc0a2c | 16:26 |
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| sledges | TI-related stuff are all [unchanged] relayed news from #pandaboard :) | 16:39 |
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| sledges | Sage, oh dear, latest-greatest 2013.01 does not boot from USB HDD anymore ;) usb 1-1: device descriptor read/64, error -71. Reverting to last-known-goodie-linaro-one :)) | 17:46 |
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| sledges | u-boot 2013.01 that is, does not initiate usb properly -> kernel fails to acknowledge USB HDD | 17:47 |
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| sampos | Aard: i saw it on wpdinfotool, but not on explorer or media player. | 18:12 |
| Aard | wpdinfotool? | 18:12 |
| sampos | or something :) don't recall the name exactly | 18:13 |
| Aard | what's that? | 18:13 |
| sampos | tool that comes with windows driver dev kit | 18:13 |
| sampos | it shows the mtp properties | 18:15 |
| Aard | ah, would be nice to have, I guess | 18:15 |
| sampos | anyway it feels as if windows is stubborn with the icon, once it gets one or no and uses the default. That's what it uses from there ib | 18:17 |
| sampos | on | 18:17 |
| sampos | uninstalling the driver did not help | 18:18 |
| Aard | hm | 18:18 |
| sampos | just speculation, i admit | 18:19 |
| Aard | I still have a virgin windows this device didn't pair with | 18:19 |
| Aard | sampos: virgin windows 7 does not like the icon as well, so I guess there's still something missing for full icon support | 18:27 |
| sampos | ok. the icon just doesn't appear, but works otherwise? | 18:28 |
| Aard | icon just doesn't appear | 18:28 |
| sampos | i will investigate it further tomorrow | 18:28 |
| Aard | and I noticed that we don't announce that mtp can do thumbnails, so my guess to why it didn't crash for me before adding the tumbler dependency on windows 7 is that windows 7 honours the 'can't do thumbnails' flag, and windows 8 ignores it | 18:29 |
| sampos | aha | 18:30 |
| Aard | sampos: random bit, the n9 has <DevPropValue>/home/user/MyDocs/DevIcon.fil</DevPropValue> for the icon devprop, and stores a copy of the icon served in the users home | 18:32 |
| sampos | good to know | 18:34 |
| Aard | and we didn't announce that we support battery readouts, which might be one half of the 'does not show battery status' problem | 18:35 |
| sampos | why did i not see what harmattan does ? :) | 18:35 |
| Aard | sampos: http://pastebin.com/GmuXVkEr (minus the battery property which I added) | 18:36 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7782 Rejected promotion request | 18:43 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7780 Rejected promotion request | 18:45 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7779 Accepted promotion request | 18:46 |
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| phako | are there (fluendo) gstreamer mp3 decoders for nemo available somewhere? | 19:59 |
| Stskeeps | no, they don't typically exist for arm i think | 20:00 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7787 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7787 | 23:47 |
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