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| Merbot | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#30 waiting for review at https://build.merproject.org//request/show/30 | 07:44 |
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| Sage | phaeron: ~ seems to be ok now nice | 07:44 |
| Merbot | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#30 Rejected promotion request | 07:46 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7718 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7718 | 07:58 |
| Merbot | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#31 Rejected promotion request | 08:01 |
| Sage | spiiroin: %dir %{_sysconfdir}/%{name}/ <- needed for %files section, also NEMO#584 seems to be fixed and maybe NEMO#525 ? | 08:02 |
| spiiroin | Sage: I'll look into it | 08:03 |
| Sage | all directories that package should own should be marked with %dir in the %files section | 08:03 |
| Sage | spiiroin: also are you sure you want to have the %config(noreplace) in some of the files there | 08:05 |
| spiiroin | Sage: subdirs too, i.e. %{_libdir}/%{name}/ *and* %{_libdir}/%{name}/modules/ ? | 08:06 |
| Sage | spiiroin: yes, so that other packages don't take ownership of that dir | 08:06 |
| spiiroin | sage: and having "%dir %{_sysconfdir}/%{name}" in mce.rpm does not block other packages from installing files there (as is the intention)? | 08:08 |
| Sage | it doesn't block that it just says that this package owns the directory but anyone can add files under it | 08:09 |
| spiiroin | sage: ack | 08:09 |
| Sage | spiiroin: and the noreplace should be removed imo. see http://www-uxsup.csx.cam.ac.uk/~jw35/docs/rpm_config.html | 08:10 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7718 Rejected promotion request | 08:26 |
| Aard | sampos: that's messed up. I now started the mtp service manually to see if it spits out any errors -- no crashes so far :) | 08:31 |
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| sampos | :) | 08:34 |
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| sampos | there's a nice "lock(); if(fail) return;" in the writer thread there | 08:36 |
| Aard | that does sound like it could be solved better | 08:39 |
| sampos | yeah, just thinking if it jams but does not exit that could be the reason | 08:40 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7719 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7719 | 08:42 |
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| Aard | sampos: I'm currently trying to figure out why it's not that annoyingly talkative anymore; last time I played with it it gave me verbose debug output, now it's silent, and I don't remember changing anything about it | 08:44 |
| spiiroin | Sage: updated mce submit req -> id 7719 | 08:45 |
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| sampos | Aard: maybe there are changes in syncfw related to logging. I'll try also. | 08:57 |
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| phaeron | Sage: cool. easiest way was applying suse's 12.2 patch for tilde to 12.1's rpm version | 09:27 |
| phaeron | minimal change | 09:27 |
| phaeron | Sage: now get me some statistics on the empty response issue | 09:27 |
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| w00t | phaeron: you're a hero | 09:29 |
| phaeron | I am ? :D | 09:30 |
| w00t | yes :) | 09:30 |
| phako | the gstreamer for nemo is 0.10, right? | 09:34 |
| phako | +available | 09:34 |
| w00t | zypper suggests so | 09:36 |
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| phako | ah zypper, I tried to use obs search | 09:42 |
| phako | migrating is probably complex due to n9x0 camera stuff? | 09:42 |
| w00t | that would be my guess | 09:44 |
| w00t | Sage: might know more | 09:44 |
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| sampos | neom | 09:55 |
| sampos | woops :) | 09:55 |
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| Sage | phaeron: yes, update to 1.0 is difficult because of the n9x0 camera. Not sure if there are other issues with it, e.g., api changes? | 10:27 |
| Sage | err... phako ^ | 10:27 |
| * sledges is going to FOSDEM yoohoo! :) | 10:27 | |
| Sage | sledges: se you in there then :) | 10:27 |
| Sage | see* | 10:27 |
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| sledges | great :) what hardware are you going to use in your speech? | 10:28 |
| Sage | phaeron: I would say the empty response is about 1 out of 50 or so. | 10:28 |
| Sage | sledges: probably my pc this time :) | 10:28 |
| Sage | laptop I mean | 10:28 |
| sledges | hmm Pb could be feasible ;) the dreaded bug's fixed | 10:29 |
| Sage | as i'm going to show a bit more than just slides so makes it hard to do that on other things. Only slides would be ok for any mer/nemo device though | 10:29 |
| * sledges wonders if he could sneak pandaboard out of work :) | 10:30 | |
| Sage | spiiroin: can you handle https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=600? though I'm not sure why both mce and dsme needs to handle powerkey. | 10:30 |
| Merbot | Nemo bug 600 in dsme "dsme: pwrkeymonitor: Unable to find device that matches "pwrbutton"" [Normal,New] | 10:30 |
| Sage | spiiroin: mce blanks the screen and dsme does poweroff anything else? | 10:30 |
| spiiroin | Sage: IIRC mce handles power key: short press -> power key menu, long press -> shutdown via dsme | 10:33 |
| spiiroin | Sage: the powerkey stuff in dsme = dsme makes shutdown on its own when longer-than-what-mce-should-handle power key press is detected -> better than removing battery / hw reset | 10:34 |
| spiiroin | Sage: but yes, I can take the bug | 10:36 |
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| sampos | Aard: I have a core file now | 11:09 |
| Aard | oh, that's interesting | 11:10 |
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| sampos | Aard: http://pastie.org/5841685 | 11:13 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7720 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7720 | 11:45 |
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| sampos | Aard: that crash is related to the fact that i dropped photo on the device i guess. Maybe different case than what you are seeing ? | 11:58 |
| Aard | sampos: can you reproduce that crash if you start mtp_service as user nemo after disabling the mtp systemd service? | 12:00 |
| sampos | Aard: that's basically what i did, commented out the service starting from start-mtp.sh and ran as nemo | 12:01 |
| Aard | what were you using to drop files on it? | 12:02 |
| sampos | explorer on win | 12:02 |
| Aard | win 7? | 12:03 |
| sampos | 8 | 12:03 |
| Aard | I tested with win 7, copied a whole bunch of pictures in both directions, which surprisingly worked | 12:03 |
| sampos | do you see thumbnails ? | 12:04 |
| Aard | on windows side? yes | 12:05 |
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| sampos | what about in ~/.thumbnails in device ? | 12:10 |
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| Aard | ~/.thumbnails does not exist | 12:14 |
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| sampos | Aard: hmm yeah, seems there is no thumbnailing service; but i don't get the crash anymore when i run like this http://pastie.org/5845405 | 12:51 |
| Aard | sampos: ah, that explains why it's working for me -- I'm running a jolla image, where I have a proper environment when logging in via ssh, including dbus | 12:53 |
| Aard | I wanted to move mtp into the user session anyway, so seems I should give it a bit higher priority | 12:54 |
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| sledges | sampos, I bumped into this, when pulled in meegotouchcp-wallpaper, and saw no thumbnails generated. tumbler package was a missing dependency | 13:09 |
| sampos | sledges: ah, it's called tumbler. I was searching for thumbler :) | 13:11 |
| sledges | yes, a pita :DD | 13:11 |
| sledges | this package is one of the many soon-to-be-replaced-by-nemo-tools MTF zombies | 13:12 |
| sampos | cool | 13:12 |
| sledges | still does the job though, but probably explains why it wasn't made a dependency for wallpaper cp.. | 13:12 |
| sledges | "soon"-to-be-replaced ;) hope for the best! | 13:13 |
| sampos | :) | 13:13 |
| Aard | thumbnail-generation moved to ui-level in most cases | 13:13 |
| Aard | so I don't think anything is really using it currently | 13:13 |
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| sampos | well buteo-mtp tried to :) | 13:14 |
| sampos | i have thumbnails now, and no crashes atm | 13:15 |
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| Aard | did you install the thumbnailer service? | 13:24 |
| sampos | yes | 13:24 |
| Aard | without windows just does not show thumbnails? | 13:24 |
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| sampos | i guess it's the windows that asks for thumbnail via mtp | 13:26 |
| sampos | or what do you mean ? | 13:26 |
| Aard | I'm interested in what's visible in windows filemanager if the device does not create thumbnails | 13:26 |
| sampos | ah, there where just some default icons | 13:26 |
| sampos | metrostyle | 13:27 |
| Aard | ok, so I probably should make the buteo-package depend on thumbnailer | 13:27 |
| Aard | what's the exact package name? | 13:27 |
| sampos | tumbler | 13:27 |
| sledges | gotta love namings :)) | 13:28 |
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| sampos | :) a letter shaved is a letter saved | 13:29 |
| sledges | xD lol nice one | 13:29 |
| Aard | sampos: hm, no tumbler here. no error-message, and thumbnails in windows 7 | 13:31 |
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| sampos | interesting; difference in mtp btw 7 & 8 ? Win 7 generates the thumbs locally ? | 13:33 |
| Aard | I'll see in a bit, just need to change to win8 kvm | 13:34 |
| sampos | great, i'm trying to create stress test with libmtp | 13:35 |
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| sledges | Jonni, we with Mric_ just tried putting openmode kernel in place of Alt_OS/boot-orig/bzImage, and now it just halts on black screen (does not shut down though) any cmdline changes needed? or can we just give up, and somehow backup contacts, and reflash from scratch to start with non-scary non-open-kernel-requiring N9 single boot instead? | 13:51 |
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| Jonni | sledges: well I just did one dualbooting device today. after alt_os was installed, the 1st boot took about 60 minutes and I rebooted it about 5 times before it started. | 13:53 |
| Jonni | so are you sure that waiting 1st boot to complete for over an hour? | 13:53 |
| Jonni | that you waited even | 13:53 |
| sledges | well how can 1st boot last over 60mins? :) we can wait, can't we Mric_? ;) we just started I mean :) | 13:54 |
| Jonni | (harmattan most likely doesnt like that nemo changed the partition size, and it tries to fix itself for an hour or so) | 13:54 |
| sledges | omg | 13:54 |
| Mric_ | haha | 13:54 |
| sledges | never happened to me after repartition (single boot though, non open kernel) | 13:55 |
| sledges | so Jonni, should we wait or just keep rebooting? | 13:55 |
| Mric_ | well is it sure that after 1 hour haramattam will work again in dualboot with nemo ? | 13:55 |
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| Jonni | well I reboot couple times every 15 minutes, and then I just left it booting and went for a lunch, and it was booted up when I came back | 13:56 |
| sledges | Mric_ scenario was: Stock N9 (PR1.3?), follow Dual Boot nemo instructions without having put the open-mode kernel in | 13:56 |
| Jonni | so its black magic | 13:56 |
| sledges | amazing | 13:56 |
| sledges | it is black screen magic indeed :D | 13:56 |
| Jonni | and I was using stock pr13 kernel | 13:57 |
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| Mric_ | well, I bought my N9 in second hand. It was a swiss strange variant which did not release pr1.3. i have manualy flashed the device with UK pr1.3 | 13:58 |
| sledges | and then you just replaced boot-orig kernel? amazing :)) | 13:58 |
| sledges | good call Mric_ | 13:58 |
| sledges | Mric_, is it on charger? ;) | 13:58 |
| Mric_ | no ? | 13:58 |
| Mric_ | but I had like 80%, should I connect it ? | 13:59 |
| sledges | 60 min if it heats up by trying to fix itself and/or battery is now low, probably/hopefully it'll pick up charging | 13:59 |
| sledges | Jonni, ^ ? | 13:59 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7720 Rejected promotion request | 14:00 |
| sledges | Mric_, just check if it's warm in the back | 14:01 |
| sledges | (channel, no innuendos pls) %)) | 14:01 |
| Mric_ | slegdes, haha no pretty cold (unfortunately ;) ) | 14:02 |
| sledges | x) | 14:03 |
| Mric_ | It is 1400 at 1500 if it still doesn't boot I will flash it again no ? | 14:03 |
| sledges | no, you'll just reboot ;) | 14:04 |
| sledges | enough times, remember, it's black magic ;) | 14:04 |
| Mric_ | ? should I reboot him every 15 mins like jonni or leave it alone ? | 14:05 |
| sledges | i'd leave it alone | 14:06 |
| sledges | and start rebooting spree after 1 hour | 14:06 |
| Mric_ | alright :) | 14:06 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7721 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7721 | 14:10 |
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| Aard | sampos: no thumbnails in windows 8, but no warnings either | 14:33 |
| Aard | oh, it loads the default icons first, then thumbnails | 14:34 |
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| Aard | (just wanted to say no thumbnails after installing tumbler, but it just took some time) | 14:34 |
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| sampos | ok, so we have the same result. | 14:42 |
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| sampos | Aard: and I'm able to reproduce the mtp exit with shell script + libmtp | 14:45 |
| sampos | "User defined signal 1" | 14:46 |
| sampos | stuck on 60% on third mp3 i'm sending, http://pastie.org/5847768 | 14:48 |
| * sampos goes skiing | 14:50 | |
| Aard | got anything on device-side there? | 14:50 |
| sampos | Critical: invalid container received. Expected command, received data. | 14:52 |
| sampos | hope no one is called Critical here :) | 14:52 |
| sampos | ^^ that was after being stuck | 14:52 |
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| Aard | I still don't understand why you get output on the console, and I don't | 14:53 |
| sampos | oh, i enabled loggin in service.cpp :) | 14:54 |
| Aard | iirc mtp uses compile time logging macros? | 14:54 |
| sampos | um, yeah, it's INFO level by default | 14:55 |
| sampos | but it outputs nothing if there is no logger instance | 14:56 |
| sampos | that's what i did: http://pastie.org/5847825 | 14:59 |
| sampos | as a temp solution | 14:59 |
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| sampos | now i need to run o/ | 14:59 |
| Aard | have fun | 14:59 |
| Aard | when you come back mtp should run in user sessions | 14:59 |
| sampos | thx, great :) | 15:00 |
| Mric_ | just wondering if a e-mail client is planned for nemo ? | 15:00 |
| anYc | afair there is one in development | 15:02 |
| Mric_ | great :) | 15:04 |
| Mric_ | who is in charged ? | 15:04 |
| Mric_ | Jonni, just waited 1 hour and as you said I was able to choose harmattan in moslo. The device is now booting harmattan, I can see the logo but it has been booting for more than 3 min did this also happend to you ? | 15:10 |
| anYc | maybe it was https://github.com/nemomobile/qmlmail | 15:12 |
| Mric_ | seems like, thanks :) | 15:13 |
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| Mric_ | it's working perfectly now :) thanks Jonni without you I would never have waited 1hour ;) | 15:27 |
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| sledges | Mric_, found associated bug on what you asked for: https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=358 | 15:36 |
| Merbot | Nemo bug 358 in Home "Launcher and Switcher models should provide capability for reordering of items" [Enhancement,New] | 15:36 |
| Mric_ | okay sledges | 15:36 |
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| Mric_ | hey everyone, I'm just wondering how notifications will be implemented in nemo ? | 15:51 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7722 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7722 | 15:54 |
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| Vesuri | Mric_: there's a notification manager in lipstick which is based on http://www.galago-project.org/specs/notification/0.9/ | 15:57 |
| Mric_ | vesuri, thanks will have a look | 15:59 |
| Vesuri | Mric_: the lipstick-doc package has more information about the nemo-specific implementation details | 16:09 |
| Mric_ | alright cool,I will have a look. | 16:11 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7723 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7723 | 16:23 |
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| phako | Sage: yes, of course, but API use in non-binary blobs has at least a chance of getting adapted | 17:02 |
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| Jonni | Mric_: np :) | 17:09 |
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| Mric_ | hey everyone, is it possible to delete a (SMS) conversation under nemo ? | 18:32 |
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| special | Mric_: only via commandline | 19:34 |
| special | (althoug it'd be fairly easy to add to the UI) | 19:34 |
| special | commhistory-tool listgroups, commhistory-tool deletegroup | 19:34 |
| Mric_ | yeah, something like long press on the converstion on than delete options | 19:35 |
| Mric_ | special, thanks | 19:35 |
| special | commhistory-tool is in the libcommhistory-tools package iirc | 19:35 |
| Mric_ | special, is anyone working on improving messaging ? | 19:35 |
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| special | I'm working on the middleware, and I did the UI originally, so I'd like to spend more time on it too when I can | 19:36 |
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| Mric_ | special, yeah it good right now but it misses some usefull functionalities ... also do you have any idea why sometimes it duplicate a user ? | 19:39 |
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| special | Mric_: https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=476 for which the fix should be in.. today, actually. | 19:42 |
| Merbot | Nemo bug 476 in Messages "Duplicate conversations can be created when started via dbus" [Normal,Resolved: codeavailable] | 19:42 |
| Sage | --- www.ficix.fi ping statistics --- | 19:43 |
| Sage | 36 packets transmitted, 32 received, 11% packet loss, time 47114ms | 19:43 |
| Sage | rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 7.910/9.687/13.402/1.083 ms | 19:43 |
| Sage | this is always nice :P | 19:43 |
| Sage | time to call to isp again I guess that their hw sucks again | 19:44 |
| Mric_ | special: perfect :) would updating my packages fix this issue ? | 19:44 |
| special | Mric_: not yet, but it will as soon as I release that one | 19:44 |
| Mric_ | special, great :) | 19:45 |
| Mric_ | special: https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=371 this could be fix quite easily than ? | 19:46 |
| Merbot | Nemo bug 371 in Messages "Add ability to delete a conversation group" [Task,New] | 19:46 |
| Mric_ | Merbot, thanks | 19:46 |
| Merbot | Mric_: Error: "thanks" is not a valid command. | 19:46 |
| special | Mric_: should be | 19:47 |
| special | it'll require exposing deleteGroups (http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/platform-api-reference/xml/daily-docs/libcommhistory/classCommHistory_1_1GroupModel.html#a1a83a275da2b7ff93331ce33c2f43456) to QML, which is in libcommhistory/declarative/ | 19:47 |
| special | then just a matter of UI | 19:47 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: could you kill some of your projects that build e.g. libmeegotouch? :) | 19:49 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: e.g., home:stskeeps:user-sessions:* as it is merged already | 19:50 |
| Mric_ | special, okay well I currently only learning QT but maybe soon i'll try | 19:50 |
| special | Mric_: great :) | 19:50 |
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| Sage | ANNOUNCMENT: Could everyone remove extra branches projects they have in meego cobs click https://build.pub.meego.com/home/list_my | 19:52 |
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| Aard | sampos: usb-moded and buteo-mtp with usersession changes is in my home, and will be in nemo once cobs calms down a bit | 20:19 |
| sampos | Aard: great. Will try 1st thing tomorrow. | 20:21 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7724 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7724 | 22:52 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7719 Accepted promotion request | 22:54 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7721 Accepted promotion request | 23:18 |
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| Aard | sampos: ^^ one of those was usb-moded/buteo-mtp, su just do a zypper up | 23:42 |
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