| faenil | Mric_, and nemo is missing love from devs :) we need peeeople | 00:00 |
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| sledges | currently the phone just wakes up, but doesn't say if someone's calling or texting; although should be doable | 00:00 |
| sledges | ringtones started working a month ago, big achievement | 00:00 |
| sledges | ability to -send- texts - just recently | 00:00 |
| sledges | so contribution is ongoing, especially stabilising the middleware and core (Mer) | 00:01 |
| sledges | not so much in UI, this is where we welcome new devs truly ;) | 00:01 |
| faenil | Mric_, Jolla works on the middleware | 00:01 |
| faenil | but the UI is in the hands of contributors... | 00:01 |
| sledges | and coding UI is most exciting, because you immediately see the result IMO :) | 00:01 |
| faenil | which are....drum rolls...0! during this period | 00:01 |
| Mric_ | well do you need to how to program ? cause I only did some C++ at uni for 6 months ... but I would be very happy to help :) | 00:01 |
| sledges | well maybe you could pick a bug from Nemo's list, and start poking around with our help :) | 00:02 |
| sledges | https://bugs.nemomobile.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&emailassigned_to1=1&order=Importance&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&email1=not-taken%40&emailtype1=substring | 00:02 |
| sledges | or browse various bugs of UI: https://bugs.nemomobile.org/describecomponents.cgi?product=UX | 00:03 |
| Mric_ | ok bookmarked these website | 00:04 |
| sledges | I added the Power Off functionality to status bar (does it work? :)) | 00:04 |
| sledges | it was just finding the right source code line | 00:04 |
| sledges | and adding similar things like Settings icon, just changing caption and picture | 00:04 |
| sledges | so basic C++ knowledge was sufficient | 00:05 |
| sledges | for the UI part | 00:05 |
| sledges | come back when you have a bug chosen (or report a bug you found, e.g. something you want to be/work in UI) and assign it to yourself :) | 00:06 |
| sledges | then we'll take it from there | 00:06 |
| sledges | otherwise, stick around and mingle :) all welcome | 00:07 |
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| Mric_ | sledges: I will spend more time on here and try to take a bug :) maybe not tonight cause it is already 1 in the morning for me and I have uni tmw | 00:07 |
| Mric_ | once more thanks for the help :) | 00:07 |
| Mric_ | helium browser is reaaaly fast, I'm impressed !! | 00:08 |
| sledges | good stuff, see you around ;) | 00:08 |
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| sledges | yup, even that has minor inconsistencies, open source is great: pick a bug even in one of Nemo apps, and work on it :) | 00:08 |
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| Mric_ | I will :) See you tmw I guess | 00:09 |
| Mric_ | good night for me | 00:09 |
| sledges | me too | 00:10 |
| * sledges zZzZ | 00:10 | |
| Mric_ | haha | 00:10 |
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| faenil | good night people :) | 00:22 |
| chriadam | gnight faenil. | 00:23 |
| faenil | chriadam, o/ | 00:24 |
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| chriadam | blam_: I merged 63 - lgtm but I think we need to talk to w00t about the section bucket behaviour of Unnamed contacts | 03:49 |
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| romaxa | w00t: ping | 04:37 |
| romaxa | does anybody know how to make vkb autocorrect or suggest options for text editing? I see it works fine on harmattan , but not on Nemo... | 04:38 |
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| special | romaxa: harmattan's keyboard (the maliit plugin part) is proprietary | 04:49 |
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| sampos | https://github.com/nemomobile/buteo-mtp/pull/7 | 07:51 |
| sampos | If someone could ^ | 07:51 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7706 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7706 | 09:57 |
| kulve | http://ruedigergad.com/2013/01/23/update-nexus-7-plasmaactive-vs-3g/ I wonder if anybody has tested how Nemo's connman reacts to that.. | 10:00 |
| Stskeeps | XMM is a intel modem isn't it? | 10:02 |
| kulve | looks like it | 10:03 |
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| Halftux | hi there just a quick question I installed latest nemo on n950 in dualboot mode and connect the phone with usb in massstorage mode it looks like partition from meego. Is it possible to mount this partition under nemo? | 10:39 |
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| phako | can I just update the SDK as well? | 10:46 |
| phako | If i ever find where I put it | 10:48 |
| phako | ah, wiki. nevermind | 10:49 |
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| Mric_ | hey sledges | 10:53 |
| sledges | heya Mric_ :) | 10:53 |
| sledges | typing IRC from Nemo already? ;) | 10:54 |
| Mric_ | hehe how did you know ? | 10:55 |
| sledges | I guessed | 10:55 |
| sledges | :D | 10:55 |
| sledges | c00l! \o/ | 10:55 |
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| Mric_ | yeah it is cool :) | 10:56 |
| sledges | virtual keyboard could still be enhanced ;)) | 10:57 |
| * sledges is hinting :)) | 10:57 | |
| sledges | haptic feedback re-replaced | 10:57 |
| sledges | some layouts | 10:57 |
| Mric_ | yeah last time I wanted to remake the keyboard and add the french layout but people told me to wait ... | 10:59 |
| sledges | 8} | 10:59 |
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| pvuorela | sledges: i have some changes in maliit coming up, if now just would be able to make a new release. | 11:21 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | hi :) | 11:22 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Did anyone encontered that error ? | 11:23 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | in nemo | 11:23 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | MSceneWindow: void MSceneWindow::appear(QGraphicsScene *, MSceneWindow::DeletionPolicy) NULL scene. | 11:24 |
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| sledges | pvuorela, so you can't make a release now? :) | 11:24 |
| sledges | Mric_, maliit is the vkb package ;) | 11:24 |
| Mric_ | sledges I'm going to boot my computer and look at all the bugs :) maybe talk with maliit about the keyboard | 11:27 |
| pvuorela | sledges: been trying to figure out what goes wrong with events & vkb. i'm seeings some strange bug when first clicking at the bottom with meegotouch apps that have a toolbar there. event seems to leak and focus changes. i suspect it could be mcompositor / x issue too but have tried to get some clearance first. | 11:27 |
| sledges | Mric_, maliit is tha package name, not the person's :) | 11:27 |
| pvuorela | though it's also happening with current maliit so new version wouldn't be a regression. | 11:27 |
| sledges | could you give an example of a meegotouch app with a toolbar? | 11:28 |
| pvuorela | widgetsgallery text input page. | 11:29 |
| sledges | I noticed that if I press on input box of an e.g. WiFi password's field, maliit pops up and covers it completely | 11:30 |
| sledges | so you cannot see what your are typing | 11:30 |
| pvuorela | that would be different. app not making sure ui is on visible area. | 11:30 |
| sledges | yup | 11:30 |
| sledges | ok so you are talking about something else | 11:31 |
| * sledges installs widgetsgallery on Nemo/N9 | 11:31 | |
| sledges | pvuorela, in which repo can I find QmlWidgetsGallery? | 11:35 |
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| pvuorela | sledges: i meant the meegotouch one. | 11:36 |
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| sledges | erm, same question :DD | 11:37 |
| pvuorela | well, another case: settings -> connections -> gprs apn | 11:37 |
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| sledges | ok | 11:38 |
| sledges | i see you mean the "bottom toolbar" | 11:39 |
| pvuorela | yea. | 11:39 |
| sledges | but how do you reproduce the focus bit? | 11:39 |
| sledges | I clicked around bottom just now | 11:39 |
| pvuorela | focus text entry, click first on the bottom where toolbar is under the keyboard. | 11:39 |
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| * sledges doing that | 11:40 | |
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| pvuorela | if first click is elsewhere, then it starts working ok on full area. | 11:41 |
| sledges | doesn't loose focus | 11:41 |
| sledges | nope, trying the first click | 11:41 |
| pvuorela | hmh. | 11:41 |
| sledges | ok I'll re-open the app | 11:41 |
| pvuorela | happens only in portrait btw. | 11:42 |
| sledges | ah | 11:42 |
| sledges | :D | 11:42 |
| pvuorela | landscape hides the toolbar when vkb opens. | 11:42 |
| sledges | yes | 11:42 |
| sledges | :D | 11:42 |
| sledges | oh that's nasty :)) | 11:42 |
| sledges | is there a bug for this? ;) | 11:42 |
| sledges | why wouldn't portrait hide the toolbar | 11:42 |
| Mric_ | sledges: how should I decide what is a 'good' bug for me ? | 11:43 |
| sledges | Mric_, I'd pick something I really find annoying, so motivation kicks in ;) | 11:43 |
| sledges | and at first, that should be a simple one though | 11:44 |
| pvuorela | sledges: not yet at least. | 11:44 |
| sledges | adding something what already exists | 11:44 |
| sledges | but similar that is | 11:44 |
| pvuorela | sledges: portrait doesn't need to hide since it's not blocking anything. landscape hiding is harmattan legacy. | 11:45 |
| sledges | or, you can start playing about, like swapping buttons around :) finding out how things work | 11:45 |
| sledges | then learning some QML eventually, Mric_ :) | 11:45 |
| Mric_ | sledges: to be honest for me the most annoying think is that you can't change the brightness ? I guess it is not a easy one ;) | 11:45 |
| sledges | well, the slider is there | 11:46 |
| sledges | so half job is already done :D | 11:46 |
| sledges | you might just have to `echo 5 > /proc/blablabla/.../screen_dim` or something | 11:46 |
| Mric_ | sledges: yes I know but it doesn't do anything haha | 11:46 |
| sledges | you can ask in #mer , where to change N9's brightness | 11:46 |
| sledges | or since N9 is omap3, you can ask even in #omap (same /proc/omapdss systems), you can even google that | 11:47 |
| sledges | pvuorela, what would a toolbar block in landscape? ah, since it's a smaller vertical real estate when in landscape, they try to clean up | 11:47 |
| Mric_ | sledges: alright, will read about omap3 cause I don't what it is. Like I told I'm really a beginner ;) | 11:47 |
| sledges | sure :) feel free to stick around. Sead, ask, do :D simples | 11:48 |
| sledges | s/Sead/Read/ | 11:48 |
| sledges | I suggest to make portrait hide toolbar too | 11:49 |
| sledges | simplest fix | 11:49 |
| sledges | provided that MTF apps will be gotten rid of soon anyway | 11:49 |
| sledges | pvuorela, ^ | 11:49 |
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| pvuorela | that's just papering over the fact that event gets leaked below the keyboard. | 11:50 |
| sledges | it is, and hoping that future aps won't go the MTF toolbar way - but who could be sure ;) | 11:50 |
| w00t | pvuorela: it happens with non-meegotouch too, right? just that the focus issue is different | 11:50 |
| sledges | you're right.. | 11:51 |
| w00t | pvuorela: i'm curious what _MEEGOTOUCH_CUSTOM_REGION looks like | 11:51 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7707 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7707 | 11:52 |
| pvuorela | w00t: would have to create a test app for that, but i would expect all apps get some event. | 11:52 |
| w00t | pvuorela: it should be visible in xprop | 11:52 |
| pvuorela | w00t: tested also removing that property from maliit and it didn't have a difference. | 11:52 |
| w00t | yep | 11:52 |
| w00t | I don't think it's related | 11:52 |
| w00t | but it will tell us the keyboard geometry | 11:52 |
| sledges | Mric_, here's how to dim the screen: | 11:54 |
| sledges | half way: | 11:54 |
| sledges | echo 128 > /sys/class/backlight/display0/actual_brightness | 11:54 |
| sledges | sorry | 11:55 |
| sledges | echo 128 > /sys/class/backlight/display0/brightness | 11:55 |
| sledges | looks amazing, as it actually dims gradually to that brightness | 11:55 |
| pvuorela | _MEEGOTOUCH_CUSTOM_REGION(CARDINAL) = 534, 0, 320, 480 | 11:55 |
| Mric_ | sleges: alright, so basically the command could be under the slider and this should work or I'm getting it wrong ? | 11:56 |
| sledges | I wonder if some system service does that already, so you could either re-use that (you should grep through the whole Nemo rootfs for "backlight" | 11:56 |
| w00t | 534 + 320 = 854, 480 is the screen width, so that matches up | 11:56 |
| sledges | Mric_, it would work, but you might be confronted with being non root, and then it means you have to talk to a system service instead | 11:56 |
| Mric_ | sledges: I understand the root problem but I don't get the solution: "talk to a system service" | 11:57 |
| sledges | Mric_, there may be a daemon in the system running, to which you send a D-Bus message to put brightness done | 11:58 |
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| sledges | or there might also be some Qt class, or MTF (MeeGo Touch Framework) class, which exposes brightness API | 11:59 |
| sledges | it's best to talk to Nemo architects, and/or grep through the rootfs for "backlight", to identify which binaries are 'interested' in it, and take it from there | 11:59 |
| sledges | who's a nemo architect in here? w00t Sage phaeron :) | 11:59 |
| Mric_ | sledges: haha you are going very fast for me but I see | 12:00 |
| Mric_ | :) | 12:00 |
| sledges | (you can always read slow :)) | 12:00 |
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| pvuorela | maybe i could just create a bug report on this (X/compositor?) and proceed with maliit releases as new one wouldn't regress anything on this matter. | 12:03 |
| sledges | and ask away | 12:03 |
| sledges | pvuorela, +1 | 12:03 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7704 Rejected promotion request | 12:04 |
| w00t | pvuorela: if it's not a regression, go ahead | 12:04 |
| sledges | Mric_, nothing is simple in smartphones - they're too smart ;) | 12:05 |
| sledges | the brightness is changing, depending on a light sensor | 12:05 |
| sledges | ;) | 12:06 |
| w00t | brightness.. what's the question? | 12:07 |
| sledges | you can't adjust brightness from within settings | 12:07 |
| sledges | I believe that is a brightness multiplier (a weight value) that should get set ;) though not working apparently | 12:07 |
| w00t | I don't know much about the meegotouch settings application, has anyone looked at the source to see what it does with that slider? | 12:08 |
| Mric_ | I | 12:08 |
| sledges | ^ that could be the first task for Mric_ ;) | 12:09 |
| Mric_ | I'm currently extracting the rootfs from nemo then I look inside and try to find brightness inside right ? | 12:09 |
| sledges | Mric_, well now things have changed a bit | 12:10 |
| sledges | since I just noticed that brightness is changed depending on if you are in a dark room or under a lamp | 12:10 |
| sledges | means there surely is a service which is adjusting it | 12:10 |
| Mric_ | alright, so basically I have to find the service ? | 12:10 |
| sledges | now w00t is asking to see what does the settings app trying to do in the source code | 12:10 |
| sledges | when you adjust the slider | 12:10 |
| spiiroin | w00t: sledges: mce does the display brightness stuff | 12:10 |
| sledges | sort of - the other way around | 12:11 |
| spiiroin | and if mce is not on session bus -> the settings via gconf will not work (but any automatic tuning done by mce might work) | 12:11 |
| spiiroin | there are bunch of changes to mce in pipeline, the settings will not work, but you should be able to adjust brightness via mcetool | 12:12 |
| sledges | so are we telling to Mric_ to wait again? :{ | 12:13 |
| sledges | :) | 12:13 |
| spiiroin | hmm... need to read a bit more lines ;-) | 12:13 |
| sledges | ok :) | 12:14 |
| Mric_ | sledges: I'm lost sorry :( If I understand well there is a service that is the basically the sensor ... (changing in function of current light) and this should send a command to change the screen brightness ? | 12:14 |
| Mric_ | ok if I can't do it now no problem and I can't anyway ;) | 12:15 |
| sledges | in simple words: yes | 12:15 |
| Mric_ | sledges: should I try to echo the service of the sensor the understand the values from dark to bright ? I | 12:16 |
| sledges | Mric_, you can play with the echo command yes, and wow your friends :) | 12:16 |
| sledges | but after you change the brightness, it will flip back to what it was before because of that service reading light sensor's changes | 12:17 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7708 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7708 | 12:18 |
| Mric_ | "wow your friends" ? ok understood that it will flip back | 12:18 |
| sledges | impress your friends | 12:19 |
| sledges | saying, hey I can control my backlight via this command ;) | 12:19 |
| Mric_ | ahahaha alright :) | 12:19 |
| Mric_ | sledges: do you have any idea of the name of this service ? Would echo 128 > /sys/class/backlight/display0/actual_brightness give me the actual value right ? | 12:22 |
| spiiroin | Mric_: there is brightness setting (1-5 => 20-100%) in mce, but the old API (gconf) that the existing slider code probably uses does not work. Once we get mce released, there is a way to pass the setting to mce again (but not via gconf). | 12:22 |
| sledges | Mric_, service name is MCE | 12:22 |
| sledges | cat /sys/class/backlight/display0/actual_brightness | 12:23 |
| sledges | would give you actual value | 12:23 |
| sledges | (which you can test when putting phone under the table and see screen go more dim ;) and perform cat ) | 12:23 |
| sledges | Mric_, but spiiroin just basically told you to wait for the next MCE release, and adjust the settings app then | 12:24 |
| sledges | spiiroin, any plans to rewrite settings app, stripping MTF out of it? | 12:24 |
| sledges | or from scratch..?. | 12:24 |
| Mric_ | spiiroin: alright spiiroin I will wait. I just going to have some fun trying to see the values for now :) | 12:25 |
| sledges | ;) | 12:25 |
| spiiroin | sledges: I at least was not planning to do any UI changes, so ... any fixes would be much appreciated ;-) | 12:26 |
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| spiiroin | Mric_: If you want to check it out, my smoketest builds are here: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=mce&project=home%3Aspiiroin%3Abranches%3ACE%3AMW%3AShared | 12:28 |
| Mric_ | after "cat /sys/class/backlight/display0/actual_brightness" I'm getting 153, shouldn't I get a number between 1-5 or 0-100% ? what does 153 actuay means ? | 12:29 |
| Mric_ | spiiroin: alright cool :) | 12:29 |
| spiiroin | after updating mce & mce-tools you should be able to do "mcetool -b5" etc | 12:30 |
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| sledges | spiiroin, is it the weighted value to be applied against the light sensor value? | 12:30 |
| spiiroin | Mric_: value written to brightness = 0 to value in max_brightness [in the same directory] | 12:31 |
| sledges | Mric_, in /sys/ the value is 0-255 | 12:31 |
| sledges | in MCE it's 1-5 (which 1 - 0% brightness, 5 - 100% [full] brightness) | 12:31 |
| sledges | it's all arithmetics :) | 12:31 |
| sledges | soz, 1 = 20% | 12:31 |
| Mric_ | aright I get it Ithink, if 1 -> 20% I'm getting 153/255 I'm actually 60% => 3 . The screen is therefor set 3/5 right ? | 12:33 |
| sledges | yes | 12:34 |
| spiiroin | 3=60% is the built-in default | 12:34 |
| sledges | under certain light conditions ;) (?) | 12:34 |
| Mric_ | cool :) anyway if spiiroin said I should wait. Any very very easy bug I could help with ? | 12:35 |
| sledges | or is it ambience independent | 12:35 |
| spiiroin | sledges: probably yes (I've not yet gone through how ALS affects things) | 12:35 |
| sledges | Mric_, you can try out spiiroin's work in progress | 12:35 |
| sledges | and test how mce-tool works | 12:36 |
| sledges | or wait till spiiroin can answer whether value passed via mce-tool is ambient light independent or not | 12:36 |
| sledges | ;) | 12:36 |
| Mric_ | alrigt ... just did another test with "cat /sys/class/backlight/display0/actual_brightness" and yes it depends on the light :). I'm now going to try his build. | 12:38 |
| sledges | yes, that one depends | 12:38 |
| sledges | but the question is | 12:39 |
| sledges | whether setting the value will weight the ambient light strength or not | 12:39 |
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| Mric_ | okay I get it now. Just a easy idea ... When the slider is set to low position is means [ambientlight + 0] but if the user prefer I brighter screen I can slide the slider to the right and this could proportionally add more and more value the ambientlight ? eg: slider half way = +50 so [ambientlight+50] would make a brighter screen.] | 12:45 |
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| sledges | yes, but I think what you want is a weighted value | 12:48 |
| sledges | a factor | 12:48 |
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| sledges | slider - 0.1 to 1 | 12:48 |
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| spiiroin | Mric_: There is a separate toggle "use_adaptive_display_dimming" which (without looking from code) tells mce whether to apply ALS filtering or not | 12:48 |
| sledges | and that gets multiplied against ambient light calculations | 12:48 |
| sledges | (target values) | 12:48 |
| spiiroin | btw, I'm not sure if I grok what you're trying to accomplish. Do you need to have the actual brightness value or something? | 12:50 |
| Mric_ | spiiroin: I don't really know what I'm doing trying to understand a bite :) | 12:51 |
| spiiroin | And if I'm not mistaken the brightness setting = max value. ALS is then used to make the display dimmer. | 12:51 |
| spiiroin | (i.e. when moving in to dark room) | 12:52 |
| sledges | Mric_ said today that brightness from settings does not work :) so he was right :) | 12:52 |
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| spiiroin | true ;-) | 12:53 |
| Mric_ | spiiroin: what you are saying makes sens :) Anyway I'm going to try your build: N9= Mer_Core-next_armv7hl, right ? | 12:54 |
| spiiroin | or without "-next", the stuff under mce is rather stable ... | 12:55 |
| Mric_ | what does "next" actually means ? | 12:55 |
| Mric_ | sry for asking so many questions :) | 12:55 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7709 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7709 | 12:58 |
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| spiiroin | I think it is without-next = dependencies from stable nemo release, with-next = can use more recent versions of build deps | 12:59 |
| Mric_ | spiiroin: ok thx | 13:00 |
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| sledges | mer-next is like linux-next :) | 13:01 |
| sledges | (or -staging/unstable) | 13:01 |
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| pvuorela | sledges: w00t, created this one https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=606 | 14:00 |
| Merbot | Nemo bug 606 in Window Manager/Compositor "Initial event on keyboard leaks into underlying application" [Major,New] | 14:00 |
| sledges | many thanks pvuorela | 14:02 |
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| sigmaorion | hi there! is there any place where I can find what features are working and what are not working for N950/N9? | 14:42 |
| sigmaorion | I'd like to try Nemo in my N9 | 14:42 |
| sledges | sigmaorion, https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Status/Matrix | 15:18 |
| sledges | it's been ages community was asking for one :) | 15:19 |
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| sigmaorion | thanks, sledges, I will have a look!! | 15:32 |
| sledges | cheers :) | 15:32 |
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| sigmaorion | it's not clear to me if GPRS/3G and bluethooth are working... what does the "?" mean? Isn't it tested? | 15:44 |
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| sledges | untested | 15:44 |
| sledges | yup | 15:44 |
| sledges | untested by me that is :) I think I should replace "?" with "Ask on #nemomobile" :) | 15:45 |
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| sigmaorion | sledges, hehe, ok! I'd like to try it on my N9, but will I be able to get the original firmware on it after testing? (just in case I want to ever sell it) | 15:54 |
| sledges | you can reflash original firmware yes | 15:54 |
| sledges | provided you have the image for it | 15:55 |
| sledges | you should source one now, as I think navifirm has gone a bit unmaintained ( | 15:56 |
| sigmaorion | yes, I have flashed it a couple of times already with the original image form Nokia... so I will be able to reflash it using flasher in the conventional way, right? | 15:56 |
| sledges | yes, it should restore partition layout and remove the bootloader (warranty void) nag screen | 15:56 |
| sledges | to gracefully remove Nemo, this should also be followed: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing#Removing_Nemo_rootfs_and_the_Alternative_OS_partition_2 | 15:57 |
| sigmaorion | ok, great, thanks! and what applications does Nemo run? I mean, is there any online repo I can have a look at? | 15:59 |
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| sledges | well now on my homescreen I have: FingerTerm, Flickr QML, Browser, QatBowling, QmlReddit, IRC, Kasvopus (facebook), Maps, MeeGo-PIN, Terminal, Camera, Passwords, myatzy, newsflow, Apps for meego app :) to download more, music shelf, puzzleMaster, calculator, calendar, people, file muncher, gallery, messages, notes, qt flying bus, Q To-Do, redak, TwimGo (twitter client), Dialer, Widgets Gallery | 16:01 |
| sledges | that's standard Nemo offering | 16:01 |
| sledges | you can ask around what particular app you're interested, and we'll see if it's around | 16:01 |
| sledges | quite likely they are packaged here: https://build.pub.meego.com/search | 16:02 |
| sledges | or we can adapt | 16:02 |
| sigmaorion | well, there seem to be quite a few apps already! | 16:03 |
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| sigmaorion | I'm not looking for any specific app, just being curious... | 16:03 |
| sledges | very good :) (to be curious) | 16:04 |
| sigmaorion | I'd like to try it, I think I'm going to give it a shot | 16:04 |
| sledges | we're here to help | 16:04 |
| sigmaorion | I will read through the installation instructions, just want to make sure I won't brick my N9, hehe | 16:04 |
| sigmaorion | it's my main phone! | 16:04 |
| sigmaorion | sledges, thanks a lot for the information!! I will ask in case I have any doubts and then try to collaborate in some way with the project, at least filing bugs or testing features | 16:06 |
| sledges | brilliant, and thank you :) | 16:06 |
| sigmaorion | these are the latest images, and the right ones to use in an N9, right? http://releases.nemomobile.org/snapshots/0.20121224.1.NEMO.2013-01-12.1/images/nemo-handset-armv7hl-n950/ | 16:07 |
| sledges | it's my main phone, too; having a backup phone now | 16:07 |
| sledges | but rebooting to Nemo longer and longer, because ringtones and sending texts started to work recently ;) what I use 80% of phone's time | 16:08 |
| sledges | yes, those are the latest | 16:08 |
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| sigmaorion | there shouldn't be a link to them at https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Status ? not to complain that it's not there, just to know if I'm looking at the right places! :) | 16:12 |
| sledges | to the images? probably depends how you land on the page :) | 16:13 |
| sledges | normally I'd see images in the Installation wiki article | 16:13 |
| sigmaorion | oh, you are right!! | 16:14 |
| sigmaorion | great! | 16:14 |
| sigmaorion | I found those images looking at google for "nemo mobile 2013" because I couldn't find it in the wiki, but it was obviously my fault! | 16:15 |
| sledges | no problem :) | 16:15 |
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| sledges | I though about my matrix as the answer to todays question on #nemomobile: "is there any place where I can find what features are working and what are not working for N950/N9?" | 16:27 |
| sledges | wrong channel x) | 16:27 |
| sledges | but you are already famous for being quoted, sigmaorion :) | 16:27 |
| sigmaorion | me? why!? LOL! | 16:28 |
| sigmaorion | do I ask too much? | 16:28 |
| sledges | we are having a discussion on a parent channel (#mer), how those matrices should look like and where, having created one, discussions fired up :)) | 16:29 |
| sigmaorion | that sounds good! If I can help in any way, my job has a huge work load but I can find some "holes" in my time to collaborate :) | 16:31 |
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| sledges | good stuff, similar about my job sigmaorion :) at times | 16:54 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7712 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7712 | 17:56 |
| sledges | hey fellows | 18:02 |
| sledges | Mric_ cannot boot Harmattan anymore after "Dual Boot" Nemo installation on N9 | 18:02 |
| sledges | Nemo boots fine, Harmattan option just shuts down the phone | 18:02 |
| sledges | we re-ran backup_kernel.sh - same thing (probably unrelated..) | 18:03 |
| Mric_ | exactly :) | 18:03 |
| sledges | partitions and their contents are intact | 18:03 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7713 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7713 | 18:03 |
| sledges | sadly I think I know what the problem is | 18:04 |
| sledges | Wiki clearly says: NOTE: This had so far only been tested with the open mode kernel. | 18:04 |
| sledges | any way to recover ( marquiz Aard if you could help.?.) | 18:04 |
| sledges | avoiding reflashing that is | 18:06 |
| Mric_ | we found the error that is I'm not in open kernel mode ... | 18:08 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7713 Accepted promotion request | 18:28 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7712 Accepted promotion request | 18:38 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7703 Accepted promotion request | 18:52 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7697 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7697 | 18:55 |
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| sigmaorion | sledges, one question... doesn't the open kernel mode have the issue of having to re enter all the passwords after a device reset? | 19:04 |
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| Jonni | sigmaorion: it depends how you enter to openmode, I have a dualboot device, in openmode what doesnt have warranty warning screen and which boots to harmattan pr1.3 and other os | 19:34 |
| Jonni | sigmaorion: but yes, if you happen to create aegis stores with password, and then go to open mode, then yes you have to re-create aegis stores, since open mode uses different encryption key for the stores. | 19:35 |
| sigmaorion | Jonni, oh, ok... my N9 is already working and I have several accounts configured on it. What would be the solution? To delete all accounts and create them again? | 19:36 |
| sigmaorion | (with "my N9 is already working" I mean that it's not freshly flashed, I use it normally every day) | 19:36 |
| Jonni | but it you happen to do it in a bit more complicated order, flashing securemode, install devmode, remove warrannty-void from cal, reflash harmattan, and then trigger openmode by flashing dualboot kernel, you are all set. But in your case when you have already setup password, you are a bit out of luck, when open mode is triggered you need to recreate aegis stores which means deleting and recreating the accounts. | 19:37 |
| Jonni | on my 1st attempts I had trouble getting dualboot to boot harmattan, in the end I solved it by replacing the content of boot-orig, I extracted the kernel from the pr1.3 firmware.bin and looked kernel commandline from secure mode dmesg, that made my system happier. | 19:43 |
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| sigmaorion | Jonni, thanks! But how can I do all those steps you said? Are there any procedures to do that somewhere? Or is there any information about the CAL, what is "securemode", etc, etc? | 20:06 |
| sigmaorion | I'd really like to read about all that stuff. I have also looked around googling but didn't find much... | 20:06 |
| Jonni | there are forum threads about that in talk.maemo.org | 20:07 |
| sigmaorion | yeap, it's hard to extract clear information from the forums when you need some background knowledge about specific items... | 20:08 |
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| sigmaorion_ | sorry, Jonni, just got disconnected... I was saying that it won't be a problem at all deleting and recreating the accounts | 20:13 |
| sigmaorion_ | and I will try to decode the information scattered in the forums :) | 20:13 |
| sigmaorion_ | thanks a lot for your support! | 20:13 |
| Jonni | removing warranty warning is like http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=81579&page=36 http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=84659 but yes info is a bit scattered | 20:13 |
| Jonni | but you might be easiest off by just creating aegis stores again like http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=87986 | 20:15 |
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| Sage | Jonni: please enable publish in your tracker repo so I can test it | 20:28 |
| Sage | phaeron: https://build.pub.meego.com/request/show/7705 <- stuck? | 20:29 |
| Jonni | Sage: let me check where to enable that :) | 20:30 |
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| Sage | Jonni: don't enable debuginfo as tha tjust breaks the builds :) | 20:31 |
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| sledges | ok, but that will mess his accounts as I gather | 20:49 |
| sledges | Jonni, ^ (from #jollamobile irritum) | 20:49 |
| sledges | where he can get open mode kernel image? inception (/me is rooke in those things, happy Single Booter myself :)) | 20:49 |
| Jonni | sledges: http://maemo.cloud-7.de/HARM/N9/1.3/openmode-kernel/ | 20:51 |
| sledges | \o; | 20:51 |
| sledges | \oV :) | 20:51 |
| sledges | thank you :) | 20:52 |
| sledges | btw Jonni did you get my msgs on pandaboard libX11 crash fix? | 20:52 |
| sledges | hope it will be of any use for you | 20:52 |
| Jonni | sledges: yes I noticed it | 20:53 |
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| * sledges bbl | 20:53 | |
| sledges | kernel also cries updating for HWCursor to work (and now i still get graphical glitches) | 20:54 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7709 Rejected promotion request | 21:11 |
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| w00t | Aard: Sage: SR 7714 | 21:12 |
| Aard | thanks | 21:12 |
| * w00t goes for a bit | 21:13 | |
| w00t | oh, damnit | 21:13 |
| w00t | incorrect version in changelog | 21:13 |
| w00t | I'll re-sr | 21:13 |
| w00t | 7715 | 21:14 |
| w00t | now gone | 21:14 |
| w00t | back in a bit | 21:15 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7714 Rejected promotion request | 21:25 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7715 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7715 | 21:25 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7716 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7716 | 21:50 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7697 Accepted promotion request | 21:55 |
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| w00t | Sage: why is https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7715 showing as declined? | 22:14 |
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| Aard | w00t: I did a creq with yours, and the accounts plugins | 22:17 |
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| Sage | w00t: as Aard mentioned | 22:32 |
| Aard | how many hours does it take for it to go into build trial? :) | 22:32 |
| Sage | it waits for CE:MW:Shared to build first | 22:36 |
| Sage | then it goes to trial | 22:36 |
| Sage | as we have changed the mw repo so much today that the builds are quite extensive :/ | 22:36 |
| Aard | the workers are blocked with plasma active stuff, mostly | 22:38 |
| Sage | oh | 22:38 |
| Sage | well nemo stuff mostly | 22:39 |
| Aard | oh, then it changed :) | 22:39 |
| Aard | this guy called sage uses lot's of workers in branches :) | 22:40 |
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| * Sage /kills some of those | 22:41 | |
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| Sage | well that should help | 22:42 |
| Sage | thanks for reminder | 22:43 |
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| phaeron | Sage: can you tell me one of the pacakges that has ~ in its version | 22:53 |
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| phaeron | Sage: never miond | 22:58 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7715 Accepted promotion request | 23:06 |
| phaeron | Sage: please try a promotion on new obs with ~ in it | 23:10 |
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