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| Sage | aggelos_: yes, only thing that matters is that altos needs to be p4 | 07:45 |
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| Sage | morning all ;) | 07:51 |
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| Stskeeps | morn niqt | 08:13 |
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| niqt | is possible run deployed application with mer-qtcrear directly on device? | 08:34 |
| niqt | i have configured device, but don't run | 08:34 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7557 Accepted promotion request | 10:12 |
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| sledges | moorning | 10:25 |
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| niqt_ | hi sledges | 10:39 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7566 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7566 | 10:47 |
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| Sage | someone with older nemo image installed and would like to try to update it a bit? | 11:50 |
| Sage | zypper install -f -t pattern nemo-<device> | 11:51 |
| w00t | Sage: patterns? \o/ | 11:52 |
| Sage | yes | 11:52 |
| Sage | single pattern to update all | 11:52 |
| Sage | there device is n950, n900, x86-generic or x86-vm | 11:53 |
| Sage | and after that zypper dup and should be the very latest | 11:53 |
| sledges | my image is 6 days old, and on Monday the update failed ;) (see backlog) | 11:57 |
| sledges | N9 here | 11:57 |
| sledges | Sage, ^ | 11:57 |
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| sledges | fits the bill? | 12:00 |
| * Sage updated https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Updating | 12:00 | |
| Sage | sledges: I really need to try that myself soon as well. The image I'm running works fine :/ | 12:02 |
| Sage | sledges: the 6 days old image? you took my -next image as a base? | 12:02 |
| Sage | those images are not something one should use except testing -next images updates on those can break | 12:03 |
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| Sage | http://repository.maemo.org/meego/Nemo/0.20121101.1.NEMO.2012-11-08.1/images/nemo-handset-armv7hl-n950/ is the latest snapshot there has been | 12:03 |
| sledges | Sage, no, I reverted back to non-next Sage | 12:04 |
| sledges | so which one would you want me to test? the old image, or the 6-day old one? (non-next both) | 12:05 |
| Sage | I have no idea what you mean with 6-day old one | 12:06 |
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| sledges | 6 days ago I did zypper ref & up and it worked all fine | 12:08 |
| sledges | that's what I called :) - a rolling release that nemo is ;) | 12:08 |
| sledges | I can just grab that image your pasted link of and try to update the way you say - so all is from scratch | 12:11 |
| Sage | I'll try to do update from the 11-08.1 image to latest and see how it goes | 12:12 |
| * sledges will do the same. Do you have N9 Sage ? | 12:13 | |
| Sage | N950 but should be the same | 12:14 |
| Sage | don't have extra n9 to test these things :/ | 12:14 |
| sledges | got me for that ;) | 12:16 |
| Sage | yes ;) | 12:16 |
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| sivang | hi all, your feedback and discussion appreciated - http://www.mail-archive.com/mer-general@lists.merproject.org/msg01012.html | 12:25 |
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| sivang | sledges: I think a good photo of a clean new N9/950 would be best for the social presence | 12:29 |
| sledges | clean new that's two issues of mine already :D | 12:30 |
| sledges | I can clean but won'ลง be new :) | 12:30 |
| sivang | sledges: sorry, not new :) | 12:30 |
| sivang | sledges: yes, or I can try one when I find a minute to it (I kept my N950 better than my life so it could ook fairly new) | 12:31 |
| sledges | :)) yup, nice; what do you think about that netbook then? | 12:32 |
| sivang | sledges: I'd love to try it on an ASUS eee Pad instead | 12:32 |
| sivang | sledges: I want to rad people, if you know what I mean | 12:32 |
| sivang | sledges: but for that we need to be able to use hybris and run NemoMobile on it | 12:32 |
| sivang | (I guesS) | 12:32 |
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| sledges | ? rad, radiate=impress, radar=attract? :) | 12:33 |
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| sivang | sledges: impress was my understanding, but radar is nice as well :) | 12:34 |
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| sivang | sledges: if we get eee Pad to run it, we'd be doing some more tides in engadget and the media I'd like to think | 12:34 |
| sledges | sivang, something tells me you haven't seen my photo with nemo on eee | 12:35 |
| sledges | it's on ml :) | 12:35 |
| sivang | sledges: then I haven't. | 12:35 |
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| sivang | sledges: was that an eee pad? :) | 12:35 |
| sledges | no | 12:36 |
| sledges | eeePc | 12:36 |
| sledges | ;) | 12:36 |
| sledges | I see, you want it on a tablet ;) | 12:36 |
| sivang | sledges: so I want an eee Pad , no kbt | 12:36 |
| sivang | kbt | 12:36 |
| sivang | kbd | 12:36 |
| sivang | sledges: yes | 12:36 |
| sledges | well, we have whatever we have atm, hope for more nemo hw adopters soon from others ;) | 12:36 |
| sivang | sledges: I have one but I Need to return it back to my previous employer so I can't do anything to it :/ | 12:36 |
| sledges | how soon? ;D | 12:37 |
| sivang | sledges: too soon :-( | 12:37 |
| sivang | sledges: couple of days or so | 12:37 |
| sledges | yikes :) | 12:37 |
| sledges | I had eee transformer pad, but ubuntu on it runs only via chroot | 12:38 |
| sledges | if at all | 12:38 |
| sledges | we had to return it sadly | 12:38 |
| sledges | I'd get a hold of O2 Joggler hope eventually | 12:38 |
| sivang | sledges: it's a transformer, yes | 12:38 |
| sledges | might be a candidate | 12:38 |
| sivang | true | 12:38 |
| sivang | the rad effect would spring out of a proper no kbd tablet, where UI is smoothly experienced. It worked well last time I tested on the N950 | 12:39 |
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| Sage | sledges: updating | 13:03 |
| sledges | Sage, syncing after extracting Alt_OS ;) | 13:06 |
| sledges | weird, unmounted Alt_OS and it did not sync (gnome-shell 3.6.2, older gnome used to pop-up a sync progress dialog) | 13:07 |
| sledges | sync seems to pause now ok | 13:07 |
| sledges | ahh the fade-in blue screen of Nemo on first boot for considerable amount of time to enjoy :) | 13:08 |
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| * Sage curses himself for not following his own instructions | 13:23 | |
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| * sledges curses that nemo old version does not support his SIM card, having forgotten that fact though | 13:26 | |
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| sivang | sledges: so to use creator / qt sdk you need to build it yourself now right? (modified for Nemo/Mer) | 13:34 |
| sledges | sivang, yes | 13:37 |
| sledges | I think that is in wiki but only for VirtualBox SDK part | 13:38 |
| Sage | sledges: no problems with update for me | 13:39 |
| Sage | works fine | 13:39 |
| Sage | zypper and all even after update | 13:39 |
| * sledges can't get stable wifi :( constantly drops | 13:39 | |
| sledges | never was like this before same AP | 13:40 |
| sledges | ^ rebooting Sage :( | 13:41 |
| sledges | maybe played around with `iwconfig wlan0 power off` too much, or at the wrong time (should I execute it whilst connected, or before?) | 13:41 |
| sivang | sledges: so it deploys only to vb? interesting... | 13:43 |
| sledges | no, vb is only to keep sdk separate | 13:43 |
| sledges | chroot sdk is the same, it just adds he chroot clutter (mounts etc) | 13:44 |
| sledges | qtcreator should work both cases | 13:44 |
| sledges | but Mer Platform SDK has to be installed regardless (either in chroot or vb form) | 13:44 |
| sivang | sledges: so not sure what's the req for vb ? | 13:44 |
| sivang | sledges: right, because it is the chroot where building happens like with Harmattan (you always had to installs the dev chroots for on device testing AFAIR) | 13:45 |
| sledges | Sage, 285 packages for zypper dup | 13:46 |
| * sivang attempts building | 13:47 | |
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| aggelos_ | moin | 13:56 |
| sledges | Sage, I'm cancelling it, speed it max 200kB/s, but averagely stays at around 40, it will take ages | 13:56 |
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| sledges | will try reboot (-t pattern nemo-n950 has been performed, it's taking ages on zypper dup) | 13:56 |
| sledges | and play with wlan power off first | 13:57 |
| sledges | hi aggelos_ | 13:59 |
| sivang | hmm, should have given it -j 4 or so | 14:01 |
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| sledges | yup | 14:15 |
| Sage | sledges: well anyway, for me it was fine :) | 14:20 |
| sledges | lol now 147 out of 259 :) | 14:23 |
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| sledges | Sage, all works ;?) | 15:07 |
| sledges | ;) | 15:07 |
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| Sage | sledges: as far as I can see yes | 15:13 |
| sledges | Sage, it wasn't a question lol | 15:15 |
| sledges | just a typo :) | 15:15 |
| sledges | all works after update here on N9 | 15:15 |
| sledges | even SIM hotswapping ;) (kudos to phaeron(?) :)) | 15:16 |
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| Sage | sledges: hmmp | 15:26 |
| Sage | well that is good | 15:27 |
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| sledges | no repo switchover yet Sage ? | 15:37 |
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| Sage | sledges: not yet, well we are ready for it more or less already though. | 15:47 |
| Sage | I've been pondering if we could do it now or if i've still missed something | 15:47 |
| sledges | a staging playground maybe? | 15:54 |
| sledges | Sage, ^ | 15:54 |
| Sage | sledges: what do you mean? | 15:55 |
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| sledges | Sage, have all repos still available if feasible | 16:21 |
| sledges | and deprecate the old one evtly | 16:21 |
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| Sage | sledges: sure, syncing the data is the main thing in this move | 16:32 |
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| sledges | right.. well, or have a separate branch of nemo (different kickstart file) | 16:34 |
| sledges | just like you produced one with mer-next | 16:35 |
| Sage | sledges: well there will be 3 levels in the new obs | 16:35 |
| Sage | stable, testing and devel which is probably exactly what you mean | 16:35 |
| sledges | so first we try out, comment, fix, and evt switch | 16:35 |
| * Sage is still not following fully | 16:35 | |
| sledges | ah, the new repo structure describes a clearer lifecycle, but I am talking about switchover/being able to try first, leaving current users intact | 16:36 |
| sledges | "< Sage> I've been pondering if we could do it now or if i've still missed something" | 16:36 |
| sledges | in case we missed something | 16:36 |
| Sage | well, the missing something is not in package level but things below in the obs etc. :) | 16:36 |
| Sage | i know that all the packages are there | 16:36 |
| sledges | either way, doesn't it still fit the picture? | 16:37 |
| sledges | a fallback plan b | 16:37 |
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| sledges | let's say you switch over, everything brakes, people want to switch back to how it was | 16:37 |
| sledges | s/people/testers/ | 16:37 |
| sledges | whilst people still use old repo layout | 16:38 |
| sledges | *breaks :) | 16:38 |
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| Sage | well, the old stuff is there still yes. We are not closing it | 16:38 |
| sledges | ah ok, so we'll be able to poke the new stuff gradually | 16:39 |
| Sage | yes | 16:39 |
| sledges | and transition will not stress us too much | 16:39 |
| sledges | that was my question ;) | 16:39 |
| sledges | thanks! lol | 16:39 |
| sledges | (too much..in case of disaster) | 16:39 |
| sledges | do the packages duplicate themselves atm COBS->BMO ? | 16:41 |
| Sage | when ever I run sync script | 16:42 |
| sledges | nice | 16:42 |
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| aggelos_ | hmm weird | 20:52 |
| aggelos_ | trying to do the single boot | 20:52 |
| aggelos_ | I got the warranty text but then reboot | 20:52 |
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| aggelos_ | hrm | 20:56 |
| aggelos_ | ok, so maybe something went wrong with the init scripts? | 20:57 |
| aggelos_ | let me try again | 20:57 |
| Sage | I just recall that there was problems with single boot and thus it is marked not recommended | 20:57 |
| aggelos_ | well, the flasher claims it sent over the image and initrd no problem | 20:58 |
| aggelos_ | then I' get the warranty text, then another nokia screen, then warranty text again | 20:58 |
| aggelos_ | I expected to see at least some message from the initrd scripts, iirc init ends in a virtually infinite loop | 20:59 |
| aggelos_ | and now it boots into harmattan | 21:00 |
| aggelos_ | was I supposed to remove the usb cable at some point? | 21:00 |
| Sage | aggelos_: well check the guide :) | 21:07 |
| aggelos_ | Sage: the guide mentions no such thing for the n9, it's just that I ran into such instructions in other pages | 21:08 |
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| aggelos_ | now I'm trying to sneak a dd of the first MB of /dev/mmcblk0 to another box so I can take a look | 21:09 |
| Sage | well, the guide needs fixing | 21:09 |
| aggelos_ | in what way? | 21:10 |
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| aggelos_ | heh. no real root user, the "user" user can't cp into MyDocs, can't send it as mail attachment | 21:13 |
| aggelos_ | hmm | 21:14 |
| aggelos_ | Sage: I'll be glad to amend the guide after I've found out how you're supposed to do it (and verified it works) | 21:16 |
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| Sage | aggelos_: well in the way that it doesn't work atm :) | 21:23 |
| aggelos_ | Sage: but why would it fail in this exact way? I'd expect the initrd to run, so I'd at least see some messages | 21:24 |
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| niqt | hi | 22:05 |
| aggelos_ | ni niqut | 22:08 |
| aggelos_ | *niqt | 22:08 |
| niqt | :) | 22:08 |
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| aggelos_ | sledges: sorry to bother you again... do you remember if there actually was any "green text" when booting moslo's rootfs? | 22:20 |
| aggelos_ | sledges: also, I'm not sure how one would telnet in to moslo | 22:23 |
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| aggelos_ | hmm | 23:09 |
| aggelos_ | when I boot the n9 by plugging in the usb cable, I do get a usbpn0 for a second or two | 23:10 |
| aggelos_ | that's w/o running flasher | 23:10 |
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| aggelos_ | hmm | 23:25 |
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| aggelos_ | nope, even if I get a script to immediately configure the interface with 192.168.2.14/24 and telnet to 192.168.2.15, still no go | 23:26 |
| aggelos_ | so apparently there's a rescue initrd one can use | 23:26 |
| aggelos_ | http://jon.severinsson.net/NemoN9/Nemo-Mobile-N9-instructions.txt | 23:26 |
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