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| iekku | morning | 07:40 |
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| qwazix | morning! | 08:20 |
| Stskeeps | morn | 08:23 |
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| kulve | cobs has 7 visible workers in the status monitor page, b.m.o only 3 | 08:33 |
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| kulve | wrong channel.. | 08:34 |
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| sledges | g00d morning | 10:36 |
| rcg-work | morning | 10:36 |
| Sage | sledges: the conversation in ml is good. I'm just having hard time getting time to participate :) | 10:36 |
| sledges | thanks, that's the great thing about community, if it's active, can progress on its own :) | 10:37 |
| sledges | in backlog Stskeeps asks what happens to Nemo if Sailfish goes OSS 100% | 10:38 |
| sledges | i liked shmerl's reply, that the two would merge, and support whichever UX user wants | 10:38 |
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| aggelos_ | sledges: n9 arrived, will see about going dual boot w/ nemo (hopefully) in the next couple of days | 11:29 |
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| sledges | \o/ aggelos_ | 11:37 |
| sledges | what colour/flash size? | 11:37 |
| aggelos_ | black/16MB | 11:41 |
| aggelos_ | (couldn't get anything else, really) | 11:41 |
| sledges | on feabay? | 11:46 |
| sledges | *fleabay | 11:46 |
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| * sledges was thinking if it's possible to get a white unicorn from wherever :) | 11:48 | |
| iekku | some has those | 11:49 |
| sledges | but who'd want to sell one | 11:50 |
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| aggelos_ | sledges: no, store | 11:51 |
| aggelos_ | the ones on ebay weren't much cheaper, so... | 11:52 |
| sledges | €€ if not a secret? :) | 11:52 |
| * sledges bought mine for ~€350 | 11:53 | |
| sledges | on fleabay | 11:53 |
| aggelos_ | yup, I payed €350 for it | 11:54 |
| aggelos_ | 349 to be exact | 11:54 |
| sledges | my one's ~ year old | 11:54 |
| sledges | 1 | 11:54 |
| sledges | a birthday soon | 11:55 |
| sledges | wish the the value'd increase like for gold/diamonds :D | 11:55 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7557 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7557 | 11:56 |
| rcg-work | Sage, removed the .dsc file :) | 11:56 |
| rcg-work | ^ | 11:57 |
| Sage | rcg-work: about the usb-modeswitch. Couple of notes in packagings. Will pm you. | 11:58 |
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| rcg-work | Sage, aye | 12:00 |
| rcg-work | btw, this is the usb-modeswitch stuff: https://build.pub.meego.com/request/show/6933 | 12:00 |
| Sage | :nod: | 12:00 |
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| rcg-work | ah, well.. shoulda first read and post then | 12:01 |
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| Sage | hehe :) | 12:35 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7558 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7558 | 15:27 |
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| HtheB | sledges: you around | 16:12 |
| HtheB | ? | 16:12 |
| HtheB | or anybody else who can help me | 16:13 |
| HtheB | suddenly, I can't boot harmattan anymore | 16:13 |
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| HtheB | after my batteries drained I plugged it in in the charger, it booted back up, didn't press any key a the dual boot screen so it went to boot Nemo, i powered it off, and back on to boot into harmattan, but it won't boot. It will shut down after showing the Nokia logo for some time | 16:14 |
| HtheB | hope someone can help me with this issue | 16:14 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | HtheB: have you tried turning it off by pressing power during 8 sec | 16:16 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and then boot ? | 16:16 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | into harmattan ? | 16:16 |
| HtheB | yes | 16:16 |
| HtheB | no luck either | 16:16 |
| HtheB | I really dont know what is wrong suddenly :/ | 16:17 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | strange | 16:20 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :( | 16:20 |
| HtheB | is it possible to access the "harmattan" files? | 16:21 |
| HtheB | in some way | 16:21 |
| HtheB | telnet is the way to do? | 16:21 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | hum ... I'm sure you can | 16:22 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | even try to mount it | 16:22 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | or telnet | 16:22 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I'm not expert on that sadly, I never tried | 16:22 |
| Vesuri | HtheB hi :) | 16:24 |
| HtheB | hi Vesuri ! | 16:24 |
| HtheB | how are you | 16:27 |
| Vesuri | I'm good, thanks. how about you? | 16:27 |
| HtheB | bad | 16:28 |
| HtheB | read above why | 16:28 |
| Vesuri | yeah :( unfortunately can't help - haven't tried dual booting myself | 16:30 |
| HtheB | hmm | 16:30 |
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| HtheB | how is hss going? | 16:30 |
| HtheB | any updates? :) | 16:30 |
| Vesuri | I've been really busy with all kinds of other things lately so no updates to speak of :) | 16:32 |
| Vesuri | I did some preliminary work on that plasma ball someone wanted but didn't get very far yet | 16:33 |
| HtheB | hmmm o | 16:34 |
| HtheB | k | 16:34 |
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| HtheB | flashed the kernel | 16:36 |
| HtheB | to be sure | 16:36 |
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| HtheB | oke | 16:39 |
| HtheB | flashing an empty img file saved me! | 16:39 |
| HtheB | :/ but that is weird... it always just worked fine | 16:39 |
| HtheB | I only have like 250MB left in MyDocs, could that be a reason?.. | 16:41 |
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| HtheB | flashed back to dual boot, works fine as before.... strange | 16:52 |
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| sledges | HtheB, hi, sorry to hear that (N950?) | 17:01 |
| sledges | my N9 still fine with dual boot (because I'm not using it :)) I'm using single boot | 17:02 |
| sledges | so need usb cable every time when I want to boot to nemo | 17:02 |
| sledges | weird | 17:02 |
| HtheB | sledges: yeah | 17:02 |
| sledges | goot to know you solved it | 17:02 |
| HtheB | is there a way to boot Harmattan automatically | 17:03 |
| HtheB | instead of Nemo? | 17:03 |
| HtheB | (when u dont press a button) | 17:03 |
| * sledges never tried dual boot, so doesn't know | 17:04 | |
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| Aard | ? | 17:09 |
| aggelos_ | sledges: mm, do you mean "Persistent Single Boot by Flashing the Dual Boot" or some other method? | 17:09 |
| HtheB | do u know how to get the autoboot for harmattan | 17:09 |
| HtheB | instead of nemo | 17:09 |
| HtheB | (when u dont press any button) | 17:10 |
| sledges | aggelos_, Single Boot by Loading The Kernel (Not recommended) | 17:10 |
| Aard | HtheB: not sure if that's doable without hacking moslo atm | 17:10 |
| aggelos_ | sledges: ok. any particular reason you chose this setup? | 17:11 |
| Aard | I just got my hands on a n950, though, so I'll soon do some tests with moslo on n950 as well | 17:11 |
| HtheB | Awesome ! :) | 17:11 |
| HtheB | I had some problems suddenly | 17:11 |
| HtheB | i couldnt boot into harmattan | 17:11 |
| HtheB | untill I flashed an empty moslo img | 17:11 |
| HtheB | i only had like 250MB left in MyDocs, dont know if that is a reason though | 17:11 |
| sledges | it's funny on wiki (btw Sage ) that ^ is not recommended, but the other one says that dual boot never thoroughly tested | 17:11 |
| aggelos_ | ah, moslo == meego os loader | 17:12 |
| HtheB | but after freeing like 500MB, reflashed back dualboot moslo, it worked fine | 17:12 |
| * aggelos_ <- newbie | 17:12 | |
| sledges | is it because of my findings (https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/index.php?title=Nemo%2FInstalling&diff=2339&oldid=2309) Sage that you not-recommended it? https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/index.php?title=Nemo%2FInstalling&diff=2386&oldid=2385 | 17:12 |
| sledges | aggelos_, it worked for me ever since I used (it was still 'recommended' when I looked into), I do not know why is it made "not recommended", but follow ^ | 17:13 |
| aggelos_ | sledges: yah, I see | 17:13 |
| aggelos_ | so is Sage here? | 17:14 |
| aggelos_ | hmm, yah | 17:14 |
| aggelos_ | Sage: care to clarify for me please? :) | 17:14 |
| aggelos_ | Sage: see above | 17:14 |
| * aggelos_ -> home, bbiab | 17:15 | |
| sledges | I believe the "failed partitioning" would fail on both, volatile and persistent single boots | 17:16 |
| sledges | (if ever, most users did not complain) | 17:16 |
| Sage | aggelos_: o/ | 17:17 |
| Sage | I flaged it as not recommended as it wasn't tested properly | 17:18 |
| Sage | if someone can verify the instructions etc. then that comment can be dropped | 17:18 |
| sledges | okedoke, aggelos_ volunteer? ;D | 17:20 |
| sledges | thanks Sage | 17:20 |
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| Sage | MerSDK [sage@sage-x230 setup]$ osc -A https://api.pub.meego.com meta prj CE:UX:MTF | 18:01 |
| Sage | Server returned an error: HTTP Error 404: Not Found | 18:01 |
| Sage | CE:UX:MTF | 18:01 |
| Sage | ... what | 18:01 |
| Sage | hmmp | 18:09 |
| sledges | &) | 18:09 |
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| Sage | ok, sdk misbehaving not sure why | 18:10 |
| sledges | http|s and user/pass probs? | 18:10 |
| Sage | lbt: if network changes does on still need to logout & login to sdk? | 18:10 |
| Sage | to get nameservers set or something? | 18:10 |
| lbt | iirc it symlinks to /parentroot ... so no | 18:11 |
| lbt | let me know if there's an issue | 18:11 |
| Sage | well, at least now it seemed like I needed to logout and back in to get it working | 18:13 |
| Sage | can't reproduce now but something funny there | 18:13 |
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| * Sage ponders what the heck is https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=CE%3AStaging%3ALMT | 18:28 | |
| Sage | w00t: you are maintainer there, recall what that was for and if that can be removed? | 18:29 |
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| aggelos_ | sledges: probably, yah. will take a look later today, I think | 18:45 |
| aggelos_ | things keep coming up | 18:45 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6933 Rejected promotion request | 19:26 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7559 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7559 | 19:29 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7559 Accepted promotion request | 19:34 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7560 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7560 | 19:39 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7561 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7561 | 19:53 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7562 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7562 | 19:57 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7563 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7563 | 20:00 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7560 Accepted promotion request | 20:05 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7558 Accepted promotion request | 20:07 |
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| w00t | Sage: i have absolutely no idea.. i'd just say to nuke it | 20:24 |
| w00t | i know i haven't touched it in months at least | 20:24 |
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| Sage | k, nuking | 20:40 |
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| * aggelos_ looks into autopartition.sh | 21:42 | |
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| aggelos_ | hmm | 22:24 |
| aggelos_ | so it looks like it's always possible to recover an n9 via the flasher? | 22:25 |
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| sledges | kind-of hard to brick | 22:39 |
| sledges | just like N950 that HtoB rescued his unbooting harmattan by flashing empty.img :) | 22:39 |
| aggelos_ | cool | 22:47 |
| aggelos_ | so the instructions mention you need to have the harmattan kernel to dual boot. Is it actually (accessible) on the filesystem or do I need to download it? | 22:48 |
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| aggelos_ | seeing the mtdparts specified on the kernel commandline is kinda scary btw :) | 22:50 |
| sledges | :) kernel is flashed into mtdparts itself | 22:52 |
| aggelos_ | hmm | 22:52 |
| aggelos_ | and the blahk@fook is? | 22:53 |
| sledges | NOLO either can boot harmattan kernel and then consequently harmattan itself | 22:53 |
| sledges | or NOLO can boot MOSLO if intercepted via USB cable by a host PC | 22:53 |
| aggelos_ | NOLO is the first stage bootloader then? | 22:53 |
| sledges | NOkia LOader I believe | 22:53 |
| sledges | yes | 22:53 |
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| sledges | MOSLO has its kernel, shows green screen, and then boots kexec's Nemo kernel, which then completes booting Nemo itself | 22:54 |
| aggelos_ | so there are no offsets encoded in the numberk@numberk parameters? | 22:54 |
| sledges | for Single Volatile boot - no | 22:55 |
| sledges | nothing is ever flashed via low level | 22:55 |
| sledges | (only AltOS exported where you put rootfs on) | 22:55 |
| sledges | (together with Nemo kernel in its /boot) | 22:55 |
| aggelos_ | well, but you resize the partitions to make room for AltOS | 22:55 |
| sledges | but with Persistent Boot, flashing is done with NAND addresses/offsets | 22:55 |
| aggelos_ | my question is: after you resize, don't you need to adjust the mtdparts values? | 22:56 |
| aggelos_ | I guess it would be convenient for me to have a dual boot setup as I'll be away for almost three weeks. I'm sure ppl will want to checkout nemo at ccc :) | 22:57 |
| sledges | no, because all you do is shrink MyDocs | 22:57 |
| sledges | yup, they'll surely want ;) | 22:57 |
| sledges | but PErsistent Dual Boot does not work/hasn't been tested | 22:57 |
| aggelos_ | any of the nemo ppl going to 29c3 btw? | 22:57 |
| aggelos_ | hmm | 22:58 |
| sledges | so you can have MOSLO persistently, but might still need usb cable for stuff - I haven't looked at it, pls see NOTEs wiki | 22:58 |
| aggelos_ | yah, I'm rereading it all the time :) | 22:58 |
| aggelos_ | for dual boot it has: NOTE: This had so far only been tested with the open mode kernel. | 22:58 |
| aggelos_ | there are some undefined references btw | 22:59 |
| aggelos_ | e.g. "the MOSLO as provided by marquiz." | 22:59 |
| aggelos_ | guess it references http://repo.pub.meego.com/home:/marquiz:/... | 23:00 |
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| aggelos_ | hmm. still not sure how you can extract the harmattan kernel | 23:03 |
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| sledges | why'd you need to extract it? | 23:11 |
| sledges | strange, maybe reference to marquiz is outdates? | 23:12 |
| sledges | you should check the dates/compare the contents (don't be afraid to go that extra mile for the community once you're at it ;)) | 23:12 |
| sledges | ah ok ("you need to have harmattan kernel...") | 23:14 |
| sledges | and so I remember autopartition.sh creating that /boot-orig for you (even in a volatile single mode it attempted to make it for me) | 23:15 |
| sledges | so, if it won't do for you automatically, you will be able to read it off that file and obtain the bzimage yourself | 23:15 |
| sledges | kernel config is already in your harmattan /boot btw | 23:15 |
| sledges | and yes, marquiz repo needs to be used as it includes bits for dual boot | 23:16 |
| aggelos_ | yah, that I found | 23:16 |
| aggelos_ | it doesn't | 23:16 |
| aggelos_ | I'm reading it now | 23:16 |
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| sledges | but in your case, I'd cross check the two repos | 23:16 |
| aggelos_ | and it explains why the occasional failure | 23:16 |
| sledges | you need to enable developer mode on N9 harmattan | 23:16 |
| aggelos_ | already done | 23:17 |
| sledges | my one has the config `ls /boot` hm weird why your doesn't. PR1.3 | 23:17 |
| * sledges off zleeping :) | 23:17 | |
| aggelos_ | the "FATAL: Re-partitioning failed! You might be in trouble!" message seems to be because autopartition.sh assumes that the AltOS partition will be number 4 | 23:17 |
| sledges | it happened to me | 23:17 |
| aggelos_ | whereas in my N9 that's already taken by MyDocs | 23:17 |
| sledges | that's why I put that in wiki, as you need to restore by hand | 23:18 |
| aggelos_ | the kernel config is in /boot, it's the only file there in fact | 23:18 |
| aggelos_ | hmm | 23:18 |
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| aggelos_ | can't we make autopartition.sh smarter? | 23:18 |
| sledges | what happened to me was that it resized and created new partition correctly, but renumbered them wrong | 23:18 |
| aggelos_ | of course | 23:18 |
| aggelos_ | b/c #3 is free | 23:18 |
| sledges | you can see from fdisk layour print outs | 23:19 |
| aggelos_ | and #4 is taken | 23:19 |
| sledges | you got it ;) | 23:19 |
| aggelos_ | the thing is | 23:19 |
| aggelos_ | in your instructions | 23:19 |
| sledges | that happens occasionaly | 23:19 |
| sledges | hope never :D | 23:19 |
| aggelos_ | you create two overlapping partitions | 23:19 |
| aggelos_ | so | 23:19 |
| aggelos_ | why? :) | 23:19 |
| sledges | no they do not overlap | 23:19 |
| aggelos_ | /dev/mmcblk0p1 17 208512 6671872 c Win95 FAT32 (LBA) | 23:19 |
| aggelos_ | /dev/mmcblk0p2 288513 419584 4194304 83 Linux | 23:19 |
| aggelos_ | /dev/mmcblk0p3 419585 485120 2097152 83 Linux | 23:19 |
| aggelos_ | /dev/mmcblk0p4 208513 288512 2560000 83 Linux | 23:19 |
| sledges | their order in disk is not 1234 | 23:20 |
| aggelos_ | 2 and 4 have the same start, don't they? | 23:20 |
| sledges | but 1423 | 23:20 |
| sledges | no | 23:20 |
| sledges | ;) | 23:20 |
| sledges | i think you need to sleep as well :) | 23:20 |
| sledges | it's 8 not 0 | 23:20 |
| aggelos_ | ugh | 23:20 |
| aggelos_ | sorry :) | 23:20 |
| sledges | np | 23:20 |
| sledges | I'm off, good luck! | 23:20 |
| aggelos_ | sleep well, and thanks for your help! | 23:20 |
| sledges | my pleasure :) nites | 23:20 |
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| aggelos_ | ah. I see that it's init that expects the AltOS partition to be p4 | 23:24 |
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