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M4rtinK | one of the big Mer/Nemo advantages: there is no "No AEGIS_HASH_FDS environment" spam in the OBS build logs :) | 00:54 |
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ljp | :) | 01:31 |
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deztructor | morning is coming | 02:24 |
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iekku | morning | 03:34 |
the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6840 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/6840 | 03:39 |
Sage_ | deztructor: coming? From where? :D | 03:42 |
the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6838 Accepted promotion request | 03:42 |
* Sage_ though it was already here and just appeared | 03:42 | |
deztructor | Sage_: i do not c it yet :D | 03:43 |
the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6827 Accepted promotion request | 03:43 |
Sage_ | deztructor: so how do you know it is coming? Did it call you or something? ;) | 03:44 |
deztructor | Sage_: i trust clocks... but not computers ;) and meteorologists | 03:45 |
Sage_ | deztructor: oh... | 03:46 |
* Sage_ googles clock | 03:46 | |
deztructor | Sage_: kaamos is coming and i c it | 03:47 |
the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6837 Accepted promotion request | 03:53 |
the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6841 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/6841 | 03:55 |
the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6842 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/6842 | 03:56 |
the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6840 Accepted promotion request | 04:03 |
the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6841 Accepted promotion request | 04:08 |
Sage_ | deztructor: can you rebase https://build.pub.meego.com/request/show/6806 | 04:17 |
the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6843 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/6843 | 04:18 |
the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6842 Accepted promotion request | 04:18 |
Sage_ | deztructor: also resubmit https://build.pub.meego.com/request/show/6805 failed to build | 04:19 |
deztructor | Sage_: ok. PS: rebasing in obs :) omg, svn style rebase should be pain in the ass | 04:20 |
deztructor | Sage_: is there an osc command to merge or it should be done manually? | 04:23 |
Sage_ | deztructor: osc pull gest the latest changes and you can then merge them locally | 04:24 |
dm8tbr | moaning | 04:25 |
deztructor | Sage_: kiitos | 04:25 |
the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6843 Accepted promotion request | 04:33 |
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niqt | ping w00t | 06:33 |
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Jake9xx | cannot connect to session bus address on nemomobile, attaching to system bus is ok.. any ideas? | 06:51 |
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iekku | nemo bug triage! | 07:07 |
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w00t | veskuh: don't know if you noticed btw, but i've done some helium cleanups.. how much would you mind if I went a little nuts on the UI as well? :) | 11:38 |
veskuh | w00t, Go grazy! :) | 11:39 |
veskuh | w00t, looking good. Lot of the stuff is legacy so there is plenty that can be fixed. | 11:39 |
w00t | yep | 11:40 |
veskuh | And if you have cool UI ideas to do, I think its just cool. Personally, I'm eager to get QtWebkit from Qt5 since the blocking of UI thread by current webkit annoys me very much | 11:43 |
w00t | yes, I agree | 11:45 |
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the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6844 Rejected promotion request | 12:00 |
the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6845 Rejected promotion request | 12:06 |
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the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6846 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/6846 | 12:14 |
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w00t | deztructor: why is contextkit-plugin-upower being installed on the n950 on zypper up? I guess that won't do much good | 12:30 |
deztructor | w00t: maybe because contextkit-plugin-power-bme has not reached repo yet? or? | 12:31 |
w00t | I don't have that, no.. | 12:32 |
deztructor | w00t: it looks like *-power-bme is coming later, it should obsolete/provide upower | 12:33 |
deztructor | it was accepted | 12:33 |
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w00t | deztructor: that isn't correct either, though | 12:39 |
w00t | upower is still required on x86, where bme isn't installed | 12:39 |
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deztructor | w00t: power-bme is on the n9(50) only | 12:46 |
deztructor | w00t: in adaptation package | 12:47 |
w00t | ah, ok, so they're in the adaptation repo | 12:47 |
w00t | good | 12:47 |
deztructor | w00t: so, by default upower is installed everywhere (like almost generic) but on n9xx it will be substituded by -bme | 12:47 |
w00t | great | 12:49 |
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w00t | phdeswer: have you been working on USB? or do I imagine things | 14:38 |
phdeswer | w00t, nope that is right. | 14:40 |
w00t | phdeswer: ah.. so, i zypper up'd this morning, and notice two things | 14:40 |
phdeswer | fire away | 14:40 |
w00t | when I plug my USB cable in, with USB set to "always ask", the dialog asking me what to do appears, and then vanishes a second or two later | 14:41 |
w00t | before I can do anything with it, basically | 14:41 |
phdeswer | weird, Not seen that behaviour. And last time i touched it was over a month ago | 14:42 |
w00t | yeah, i had been quite.. cautious with upgrading :) | 14:42 |
phdeswer | I guess I should check the latest nemo release sometime. | 14:43 |
w00t | bug #2: with it set to "developer" (to work around the above), I don't seem to get usb0 set up | 14:43 |
Merbot | Nemo bug 2 in Dialer "Device does not notify user from incoming call" [Normal,Verified: fixed] https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2 | 14:43 |
w00t | meaning usbnet never works | 14:43 |
phdeswer | Even weirder as the developer mode is the thing that should work. | 14:44 |
w00t | hehe.. great | 14:44 |
w00t | I'll try a reboot in case something didn't quite go as planned | 14:44 |
Vesuri | w00t: that dialog comes from system-ui, which shows it when mce requests it to. the dialog is a libmeegotouch dialog, so it may get dismissed either by mce requesting the dialog to go away or libmeegotouch somehow figuring out that something was pressed | 14:44 |
Vesuri | ....unless something I'm not aware of has changed, of course :) | 14:44 |
phdeswer | Vesuri, that dialog is shown by systemui based on usb_moded signals (through qmsystem) | 14:45 |
w00t | good tip, I'll take a look at what mce is doing when it restarts | 14:45 |
w00t | mm | 14:45 |
phdeswer | w00t, btw do you still get ovi_suite? | 14:45 |
Vesuri | phdeswer: ah, right. since it all went through qmsystem it got a bit fuzzy | 14:45 |
Vesuri | about who exactly sends what | 14:45 |
w00t | phdeswer: don't think so.. haven't seen any mention of it | 14:46 |
phdeswer | Because I suspect things might be messed up with systemui before it gets restarted | 14:46 |
w00t | hmm | 14:47 |
w00t | reboot seems to have fixed it :) | 14:47 |
Vesuri | "things might be messed up with systemui" as in how | 14:47 |
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phdeswer | qmsystem not reloaded correctly etc... | 14:48 |
phdeswer | Was really annoying to have to kill half of the system to be able to test things. | 14:48 |
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phdeswer | Has to do with system-ui being always running, caching of the libraries etc by the boosters... | 14:51 |
Vesuri | funny how much I've forgotten. I was responsible for system-ui and wrote a shitload of code for it but I suppose the summer did some good for forgetting about things like usb_moded :) | 14:51 |
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phdeswer | Vesuri, that was your brain blocking out trauma ;) | 14:52 |
Vesuri | phdeswer: :) I suppose it's soon time to put system-ui to rest. | 14:52 |
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phdeswer | And hopefully qmsystem too... | 14:53 |
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phdeswer | Well the control panel applets where the worst. Having a full duplication all over the place of qmsystem. | 14:54 |
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Vesuri | phdeswer: yep. control panel in general just needs to be rewritten | 14:55 |
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w00t | ok.. either something regressed, badly, or i'm being hit by "device slow on startup" bug | 15:03 |
Stskeeps | tracker? | 15:03 |
w00t | no | 15:03 |
w00t | everything looks clean, good bill of health | 15:04 |
w00t | no top activity, lots of free memory | 15:04 |
w00t | but helium just took 8 seconds to startup, and i had it down to around 2.5-3 seconds before I rebooted | 15:04 |
* w00t reboots | 15:05 | |
w00t | panning fps was also quite noticably shitter | 15:05 |
w00t | special: ^ | 15:05 |
special | I was getting 6-8 seconds after hours of uptime yesterday | 15:05 |
w00t | 5.8 seconds | 15:08 |
special | with your patched version? | 15:09 |
w00t | yes | 15:09 |
w00t | so I think something really changed for the worse | 15:10 |
special | and roughly doubled startup time for qml applications? all applications? | 15:10 |
w00t | trying qmlcalc | 15:12 |
w00t | qmlcalc is around 4.7 seconds | 15:12 |
w00t | I don't remember my timing from last night, but I think it was around 2.3 | 15:12 |
w00t | so yes, around double | 15:12 |
special | you had 2.2-2.9 before, yeah | 15:13 |
special | mine was 4.4-4.9 | 15:13 |
w00t | Sage_: ^ is this something you'd have any clues about? | 15:16 |
special | we've been complaining about slow startup since lipstick landed | 15:18 |
w00t | that is a contributor, but definitely not the sole cause | 15:19 |
w00t | I don't have any launch animations locally | 15:19 |
w00t | and I haven't changed homescreen at all since last night | 15:19 |
w00t | I notice that mce is taking ~2.6-3% CPU while I pan around on a list | 15:20 |
special | I know; my point is more that this may not have been a recent regression | 15:20 |
w00t | I don't know why mce would be waking up then | 15:20 |
w00t | Stskeeps: ^^^? | 15:20 |
Stskeeps | no | 15:21 |
Stskeeps | strace | 15:21 |
w00t | http://qtl.me/vZs.txt <- I don't think it's related, but that's probably not helping panning | 15:22 |
w00t | also still have no clue what it's doing | 15:23 |
Sage_ | w00t: no ideas atm. | 15:26 |
Stskeeps | w00t: ls -l /proc/pid-of-mce/fds and check what fd 12 is? | 15:27 |
w00t | I rebooted (again, to see if I can ever get a fast device) | 15:28 |
w00t | will when it reboots | 15:28 |
w00t | filed as https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=483 btw (in case I forget) | 15:30 |
Merbot | Nemo bug 483 in mce "mce wakes up a lot when interacting with touchscreen" [Normal,New] | 15:30 |
Sage_ | w00t: Bas a side note I'm quite sure I've seen siimlar behaviour before as well. | 15:31 |
Sage_ | the slowness I mean | 15:31 |
w00t | Sage_: slow starting of everything, or mce? | 15:31 |
w00t | Sage_: do you have a nemo device handy? | 15:31 |
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w00t | (ideally n950 to get comparable measurements) | 15:31 |
Sage_ | w00t: yes, sort of (in train and have n950 with me but not sure if it has battery) :) | 15:32 |
w00t | mmh | 15:32 |
w00t | was wondering what your timings were | 15:32 |
Sage_ | booting my dev | 15:34 |
Sage_ | how did you measure? | 15:35 |
w00t | Stskeeps: lr-x------ 1 root root 64 1970-01-01 02:00 /proc/317/fd/12 -> /dev/input/event1 | 15:35 |
Stskeeps | w00t: dmesg | grep event1 | 15:36 |
w00t | so no surprises there I suppose... | 15:36 |
w00t | nothing | 15:36 |
Stskeeps | or input1 | 15:36 |
w00t | touchscreen (as I expected) | 15:36 |
Stskeeps | why would it be processing that.. | 15:36 |
Stskeeps | lockscreen bad interaction? | 15:36 |
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w00t | mce is supposed to tell the lockscreen when to turn on, so I suppose it could be related | 15:37 |
Sage_ | mce tells that to what? | 15:39 |
w00t | sysuid (at the moment, until Vesuri's notification changes get merged) | 15:40 |
Sage_ | should that be handled by sysuid of lipstick instead ? | 15:41 |
Sage_ | no idea what you have been talking :) | 15:41 |
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Sage_ | qmlcalc starts in 4-5s on my dev atm. | 15:42 |
Sage_ | when I click in home the icon | 15:42 |
Sage_ | it was around 2s at some point | 15:42 |
w00t | Sage_: the way we're timing is to qmlcalc -fullscreen & time cat and ctrl+c when we see something change on screen | 15:43 |
Sage_ | w00t: k | 15:44 |
w00t | (that removes the homescreen from the equation) | 15:44 |
Sage_ | w00t: ok 2.5s | 15:45 |
w00t | that sounds a bit more reasonable | 15:45 |
w00t | how up to date is your device? | 15:46 |
Sage_ | missing quite a lot updates I would think | 15:46 |
w00t | so was mine, until today | 15:46 |
w00t | and it was fast, until today :-/ | 15:46 |
Sage_ | clicking from the homescreen icon it still takes around 4-5s which is still bad | 15:46 |
Sage_ | that was around 2 at one point | 15:46 |
w00t | yes, the animation really doesn't help, I still need to look what can be improved there | 15:47 |
Stskeeps | it might be that prelink effect is coming into visibility | 15:48 |
Stskeeps | we don't prelink on zypper | 15:48 |
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w00t | Stskeeps: can I run prelink on device? | 15:48 |
Stskeeps | yes | 15:48 |
Vesuri | w00t: the notification changes aren't related to the lock screen as such. there are many other things that need to be moved from sysuid to somewhere if sysuid is going to get axed. however, if the lock screen is drawn by lipstick, mce's lock screen signaling is also relevant for lipstick, not sysuid | 15:48 |
Sage_ | [nemo@localhost ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires prelink | 15:49 |
Sage_ | no package requires prelink | 15:49 |
Sage_ | Stskeeps: .. installed by some pattern? | 15:49 |
Stskeeps | yes | 15:49 |
Vesuri | so actually, since lipstick already draws the lock screen, lipstick should handle the communication with mce as well | 15:49 |
w00t | Vesuri: there's one problem with that aspect: notification banners | 15:50 |
w00t | and yes, I know it's not directly related | 15:50 |
w00t | but my point there is that until it all moves over, it's not really possible to handle there | 15:50 |
Vesuri | w00t: do you mean you want to keep running sysuid because of the banners? | 15:51 |
w00t | sysuid is currently running because of the banners | 15:51 |
w00t | I don't know if we want to keep it that way | 15:51 |
w00t | probably not | 15:51 |
Vesuri | no | 15:51 |
Vesuri | https://bz.jollamobile.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2577 | 15:51 |
Vesuri | oops | 15:51 |
* Stskeeps applauds | 15:52 | |
Stskeeps | do we have a nemo bug for this? | 15:52 |
* Sage_ would like idea of removing mce and sysuid ;) | 15:52 | |
w00t | Stskeeps: not really, it was way off my radar, so i hadn't even started to look at it | 15:53 |
Stskeeps | alright | 15:53 |
Vesuri | what I meant to say was "notifications on top of all applications" needs to be implemented in lipstick | 15:55 |
Stskeeps | how does this happen right now anyway, mcompositor assisted, or? | 15:55 |
Vesuri | since the notification management is going to be there. sysuid's implementation can be used as a basis but libmeegotouch dependencies need to be axed | 15:55 |
w00t | sysuid displays a fullscreen, mostly opaque window, and compositor composites it | 15:55 |
Vesuri | yep, and that's how's it going to be (IMO) | 15:56 |
w00t | yeah | 15:56 |
Vesuri | that's the only way to make them work on top of all apps regardless of what toolkit/rendering technique the app uses | 15:56 |
Vesuri | or let's say only *reasonable* way :) | 15:57 |
Sage_ | https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=453 <- create bug about merging sysuid notifications to lipstick and block this meta ;) | 15:58 |
Merbot | Nemo bug 453 in libmeegotouch "[META] Drop dependencies to libmeegotouch" [Normal,New] | 15:58 |
w00t | so.. backtracking a few topics | 16:01 |
w00t | Stskeeps: run prelink on device? | 16:01 |
Stskeeps | prelink -aQr or something | 16:01 |
Stskeeps | check the .ks | 16:01 |
Sage_ | . /usr/sbin/prelink -aRqm | 16:03 |
w00t | what's the . for? | 16:03 |
Stskeeps | ignore that | 16:03 |
Sage_ | typo ;) | 16:03 |
Sage_ | 64 bytes from stats.ficix.fi (80.64.8.219): icmp_req=3 ttl=58 time=564 ms | 16:04 |
w00t | running... | 16:04 |
Sage_ | as said I'm in the train atm. ;) | 16:04 |
Sage_ | Stskeeps: btw, after updating all the packages should something trigger prelink run? binaries changed so need to update? | 16:05 |
Stskeeps | ifeally | 16:05 |
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Stskeeps | ideally | 16:05 |
* w00t taps foot impatiently | 16:06 | |
w00t | prelink takes a while ;) | 16:06 |
Sage_ | :nod: | 16:07 |
Sage_ | it is like 15% of the image build time or something I guess ;) | 16:08 |
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w00t | prelink didn't help | 16:12 |
w00t | still around 4.6 seconds | 16:12 |
Sage_ | rebooted after that? | 16:13 |
Sage_ | btw, did it show any errors while it was done? | 16:15 |
w00t | http://qtl.me/Hiv.txt | 16:15 |
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w00t | re: slowness.. i'm seemingly getting around 20-30 FPS where I used to get around a solid 56-58.. | 16:34 |
Stskeeps | mer-next? | 16:35 |
w00t | don't think so | 16:35 |
w00t | baseurl=http://releases.merproject.org/releases/latest/builds/armv7hl/packages | 16:36 |
Stskeeps | ok, SEP then | 16:37 |
Stskeeps | :P | 16:37 |
w00t | SEP? | 16:38 |
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Stskeeps | as in it must be in nemo then | 16:38 |
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w00t | jesus | 16:38 |
Stskeeps | the mce stuff seems odd | 16:39 |
w00t | qmlcontacts is 17fps | 16:39 |
Stskeeps | kill mce? | 16:39 |
Stskeeps | systemctl stop mce.service | 16:39 |
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w00t | no improvement | 16:39 |
w00t | I think it's unrelated | 16:39 |
w00t | it's probably always listened to the display | 16:40 |
* w00t doesn't get this at all | 16:43 | |
Stskeeps | rewrite image, up to it breaks? | 16:43 |
w00t | hmm? | 16:43 |
Stskeeps | zypper up until it breaks? | 16:43 |
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w00t | you're assuming i still have a working image | 16:43 |
w00t | :P | 16:43 |
Stskeeps | rewrite image.. | 16:43 |
Stskeeps | :P | 16:43 |
w00t | I've been doing SSU ever since ... a long time | 16:44 |
Stskeeps | meh | 16:44 |
Stskeeps | :P | 16:44 |
w00t | I don't have my original image | 16:44 |
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* deztructor read about removal of mce/sysuid and votes for it :) | 17:23 | |
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Stskeeps | .ks? | 18:56 |
Sage_ | I don't like adding stuff to .ks files :) | 18:57 |
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