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| dcthang | HISTORY | 02:34 |
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| dcthang | morning | 02:35 |
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| iekku | morning | 05:06 |
| Sage_ | morning | 05:11 |
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| veskuh | w00t, no .spec yet for qmlmail? I'm eager to try it out.. | 06:01 |
| Stskeeps | it needs a qmf upgrade and qt-mobility fix | 06:02 |
| Stskeeps | which i'm putting into mer atm | 06:02 |
| veskuh | Stskeeps, thanks. | 06:02 |
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| w00t | veskuh: it needs a qmf upgrade, so it won't work on device yet | 07:32 |
| veskuh | w00t, yep. | 07:33 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6761 Accepted promotion request | 08:34 |
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| yunta | hi | 08:39 |
| yunta | anybody interested in qa? | 08:40 |
| yunta | iekku: is there general rule about bz component creation: can they contain "vertical" groups? | 08:41 |
| yunta | I mean, we can split nemo qa into per-application components | 08:42 |
| yunta | or per-aspect components (performance, power, media quality) | 08:42 |
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| iekku | if we do that, i prefer filing bug to component and we could have keywords for those | 08:42 |
| iekku | rather than having a seperate QA component with sub-components for all applications | 08:43 |
| yunta | you mean: components would be applications, and aspects would be keywords? | 08:43 |
| iekku | :nod: | 08:44 |
| iekku | for qa tools etc i would like to have separate components | 08:44 |
| yunta | cool | 08:44 |
| iekku | https://bugs.merproject.org/describecomponents.cgi?product=Mer%20QA | 08:44 |
| iekku | mer has sane setup | 08:45 |
| yunta | what about e.g. calculator tests, should they be tracked under qa/application-calculator , or rather not in qa, but in calculator/qa ? | 08:45 |
| yunta | :) | 08:45 |
| yunta | let me rephrase that maybe.... | 08:46 |
| kontio | I'd say, it depends, if the tests package comes form the same source it should be in calculator/qa, if it's a separate source package then it might make sense to have it in qa/calc-app... | 08:47 |
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| iekku | we can't get QA sub-component under any application | 08:47 |
| yunta | should we track application tests in qa product, or together with application in it's product | 08:47 |
| iekku | so, we need to file bugs under application itself with keyword or maybe prefix in the summary | 08:48 |
| yunta | hm | 08:49 |
| yunta | so the only thing left for qa product is qa tools ? | 08:49 |
| yunta | and general multi-app tests | 08:49 |
| yunta | ? | 08:49 |
| iekku | in mer we have "tests" | 08:49 |
| iekku | under QA | 08:49 |
| yunta | but then you file under qa/tests, not under application | 08:50 |
| yunta | or am I mixing things up? | 08:50 |
| iekku | and there isn't any way to identify those for certain component/application than having it mentioned in the summary | 08:51 |
| yunta | right | 08:51 |
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| iekku | so it's bit problematic... i think unit tests etc should go under component itself, with prefix or keyword | 08:51 |
| iekku | and test-assets etc could go to QA>>tests | 08:52 |
| yunta | what are test-assets? | 08:53 |
| iekku | at meego we had something like this: http://wiki.meego.com/Quality/TestSuite/MCTS_Components | 08:55 |
| iekku | and: http://meego.gitorious.org/meego-quality-assurance/handset-ux-tests | 08:56 |
| iekku | but in general, i think we need to have setup which is working for us | 08:58 |
| iekku | makes sense and it's easy to follow and track | 08:59 |
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| yunta | so, if we want to keep tests with applications, the test-assets would be like collections of tests (suites) ? | 09:06 |
| iekku | something like that | 09:08 |
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| yunta | qa/tools-* for tools | 09:11 |
| yunta | qa/tests-* for general tests applying to multiple applications, and other test assets | 09:11 |
| yunta | is there anything like sub-components? | 09:12 |
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| yunta | iekku: ^ what do you think about this structure? | 09:15 |
| iekku | we can't get sub-component under qa/tests, but this seems sane to me | 09:16 |
| * deztructor wonders does contextkit has its own place in nemo bz | 09:17 | |
| w00t | contextkit is a mer package, so it has a component there | 09:21 |
| yunta | iekku: so e.g.: qa/tools-testunner-lite, qa/tests-generic, qa/tests-plan | 09:24 |
| deztructor | w00t: and plugins? they are bridge between base platform (adaptation, middleware etc.) and high-level components. So, it looks like they should be in middleware... or adaptation | 09:26 |
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| iekku | yunta, sounds like plan | 09:28 |
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| yunta | iekku: now, to get them done, should I file a bug in Nemo Infra product, or where? | 09:31 |
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| iekku | yunta, i think you filed it here :) | 09:38 |
| yunta | lol, cool :) | 09:38 |
| yunta | iekku: I'm afk for now, need to go home (to receive UPS package). please ping me when you get those components ready. | 09:39 |
| yunta | thanks | 09:39 |
| iekku | yunta, would you like to be cc for those components? | 09:39 |
| yunta | yes please, for now at least | 09:39 |
| iekku | and is there anyone who wants to get cc'd? | 09:39 |
| yunta | ep? | 09:39 |
| iekku | his in mer-side, not nemo | 09:40 |
| yunta | ok | 09:40 |
| yunta | well, I'm out, see you later :) | 09:40 |
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| iekku | https://bugs.nemomobile.org/describecomponents.cgi?product=QA | 09:43 |
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| anYc | I added some links to youtube videos in order to get impressions of the current state/development at https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo#Status | 11:05 |
| Stskeeps | cool | 11:05 |
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| anYc | (and linked the "howto setup desktop dev target" in dev section) | 11:07 |
| anYc | is there more? | 11:07 |
| w00t | more what? | 11:09 |
| anYc | of recent stuff that is floating around in this channel and might be of intereset to visitors of the website :) | 11:14 |
| anYc | I'd also like to propose a small reorganisation of the main site, is anyone of the devs interested in commenting? Then I would commit the change and it can be undone immediately, if not appreciated. | 11:19 |
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| anYc | well, it's actually not a big change. essentially I just moved up the status section for first-time visitors and combined sections for clarity. I just commited, if someone is not happy with it, I don't mind to undo it. | 11:50 |
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| mruk | does anybody know if changing number in calendar's icon is patented? | 12:41 |
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| Stskeeps | mruk: as a software developer it's probably better not to wonder it, and leave it up to legal counsel to handle it | 12:43 |
| Stskeeps | there's a thing called willful infringement in which the damages are 3x compared to unwillful infringement | 12:44 |
| mruk | ok, thanks | 12:44 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6763 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/6763 | 12:45 |
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| yunta | hi asumowski :) | 12:47 |
| asumowski | hi :) | 12:47 |
| asumowski | just taking aloof for now | 12:49 |
| yunta | cool | 12:57 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6763 Accepted promotion request | 13:01 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6764 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/6764 | 14:00 |
| phaeron | Sage_: 6764 was stuck for a few minutes but I kicked | 14:01 |
| cos- | should meegotouch-applauncherd-devel be missing? is there an alternative to it? | 14:02 |
| special | cos-: missing? | 14:02 |
| Stskeeps | cos-: should be there | 14:02 |
| cos- | obs says nothing provides it when buildong a package | 14:03 |
| Stskeeps | cos-: you need to find the right project/repo that provides it | 14:03 |
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| cos- | but it's installable on device | 14:03 |
| special | cos-: declarative? | 14:04 |
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| cos- | ok, looks like it's provided here https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=meegotouch-applauncherd&project=CE%3AMW%3AShared | 14:07 |
| cos- | ..but how should i add it to my own project? | 14:07 |
| special | are you just looking for qdeclarative-boostable, or something else? | 14:07 |
| special | pkgconfig is generally the answer | 14:08 |
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| cos- | MDeclarativeCache was missing without installing meegotouch-applauncherd-devel | 14:09 |
| Stskeeps | cos-: you add it in repositories tab | 14:09 |
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| cos- | i'm not sure how much of this is harmattan specific | 14:10 |
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| cos- | ok, i added repo CE_MW_Shared_Mer_Core_i586 (i586, armv7el, armv8el) to my home project. is this correct? | 14:25 |
| Stskeeps | looks like it | 14:25 |
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| karthik | hi anyone here? | 18:55 |
| Stskeeps | heya | 18:55 |
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| Guest6020 | hi | 18:55 |
| Guest6020 | i need help | 18:55 |
| Guest6020 | regarding telnet | 18:55 |
| Guest6020 | anyone there??? | 18:56 |
| Stskeeps | you can try to ask | 18:57 |
| Guest6020 | hello!!! | 18:57 |
| Guest6020 | ya. | 18:57 |
| Guest6020 | i am tryin to telnet into my N9 | 18:57 |
| Guest6020 | but i get the error connection refused | 18:57 |
| Guest6020 | i have also set up the network interface host | 18:58 |
| Guest6020 | any idea?? | 19:00 |
| Guest6020 | hello/??? | 19:00 |
| Stskeeps | telnet in what circumstance | 19:00 |
| Stskeeps | and patience | 19:00 |
| Guest6020 | i am trying to unistall nemo | 19:01 |
| Guest6020 | so first i sudo flashed and got to the screen you can now telnet to 192.168.2.15 | 19:01 |
| Stskeeps | and you set up usb network? | 19:02 |
| Guest6020 | so i have typed telnet 192.168.2.15 | 19:02 |
| Guest6020 | i got the error: cannot telnet connection refused | 19:02 |
| Guest6020 | so what should i do now? | 19:04 |
| Stskeeps | and you set up usb network? | 19:04 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:04 |
| Guest6020 | yes | 19:05 |
| Guest6020 | but i had a problem while setting up the usb network | 19:05 |
| Guest6020 | when i try to set up the usb network in /usr/bin it gave me the error iptables not found | 19:06 |
| Guest6020 | so I cd\ and gave the iptables command and it worked | 19:06 |
| Guest6020 | is that correct? | 19:06 |
| Stskeeps | how did you set up the usb0 interface? | 19:06 |
| Guest6020 | sudo /sbin/ifconfig usb0 up 192.168.2.14 | 19:07 |
| Guest6020 | sudo /usr/sbin/iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -s 192.168.2.15/32 -j MASQUERADE instead of this i gave cd \ and sudo iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -s 192.168.2.15/32 -j MASQUERADE | 19:08 |
| Stskeeps | ok, don't bother with iptables | 19:08 |
| Guest6020 | so what am i supposed to do now? | 19:08 |
| Stskeeps | route -n | 19:09 |
| Guest6020 | where should i give this? | 19:09 |
| Guest6020 | should i give this after the command sudo /sbin/ifconfig usb0 up 192.168.2.14 | 19:10 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 19:10 |
| Stskeeps | and show me the output.. | 19:10 |
| Guest6020 | okay. let me try that | 19:10 |
| Guest6020 | the kernel ip routing table is displayed | 19:11 |
| Stskeeps | yes, what lines does it show? | 19:11 |
| Guest6020 | under destination 0.0.0.0 169.254.0.0 192.168.2.0 192.168.204.0 | 19:13 |
| Guest6020 | under gateway 0.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 255.255.255.0 255.255.255.0 | 19:14 |
| Stskeeps | it looks a bit like something screwed up your routes bad - sure you don't have 192.168.2.0 as a ip network somewhere? | 19:14 |
| Guest6020 | sorry... that was under genmask | 19:15 |
| Stskeeps | anyway, no idea then | 19:15 |
| Guest6020 | under gateway its 192.168.204.2 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 | 19:15 |
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