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| quixote | qwazix: new boot screen: Nice! Agree with Timur at your site that centering "mer" might be good. | 00:07 |
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| quixote | Rounded corners? >:o Oh noes! (Ducks under table to avoid incoming from Apple.) | 00:08 |
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| the-boss` | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6454 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/6454 | 01:20 |
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| congly85 | Hi | 02:35 |
| congly85 | Is there anyone here using nicesrc component in libnice | 02:35 |
| congly85 | How can I use nicesrc to received data ? | 02:36 |
| congly85 | Can you explain about nice_agent_attach_recv and nicesrc ? | 02:38 |
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| iekku | morning | 03:31 |
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| Venemo_N9 | morning | 07:02 |
| Venemo_N9 | w00t, I hope your vacation went well :) | 07:03 |
| jukkaeklund | morn | 07:03 |
| jukkaeklund | what is the status of archos g9 compatible nemo image these days? | 07:03 |
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| ZogG_laptop | ~seen sivang | 07:13 |
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| neochapay | hi! | 08:02 |
| neochapay | How i can cirrect translation of nemo !? | 08:02 |
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| * Sage puts earplugs on. | 08:08 | |
| Sage | jukkaeklund: nobody has contributet that adaptation at least so no idea. | 08:09 |
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| jukkaeklund | yeah, but there has been images earlier | 08:09 |
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| Sage | jukkaeklund: not sure who has done those. | 08:09 |
| jukkaeklund | vgrade? | 08:15 |
| sivang | morning | 08:16 |
| Sage | lbt: we need to do something to cobs as it is very hard to do anything there. publishing stuff takes forever, compiles are slower than usual, getting much more "state needs recalcultation" than usual | 08:22 |
| lbt | ok | 08:24 |
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| Sage | lbt: e.g. https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home%3Asage%3Abranches%3ACE%3AMW%3AShared 30mins ago submitted package fix that takes less than 5mins to compile. | 08:33 |
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| lbt | https://build.pub.meego.com/monitor | 08:47 |
| neochapay | ufter ubgrade nemo i have error hci_h4p hci_h4p: Sending firmware error :( | 08:47 |
| Stskeeps | neochapay: normal | 08:52 |
| neochapay | Stskeeps: and booting stop :( | 08:53 |
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| sledges | good morning! :) | 09:02 |
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| the-boss` | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6477 Rejected promotion request | 09:18 |
| * Sage starts aiming missiles and cannons towards cobs | 09:19 | |
| ZogG_laptop | Sage, nooooo :P | 09:19 |
| Sage | Server returned an invalid response: '' | 09:19 |
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| the-boss` | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6478 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/6478 | 09:21 |
| Sage | finally it got through :) | 09:22 |
| Sage | same sr without any modification multiple times but always obs screwed somewhere | 09:23 |
| faenil_away | morning! :) | 09:28 |
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| faenil | Sage, still fighting eh? | 09:28 |
| ZogG_laptop | faenil, here you are | 09:28 |
| faenil | ZogG_laptop, yo | 09:29 |
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| ZogG_laptop | faenil, queried u | 09:30 |
| niqt | morning | 09:30 |
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| faenil | hey niqt | 09:31 |
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| neochapay | Where do I send the translation files? Or just create merge requerest on git!? | 10:15 |
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| sledges | neochapay, my ones sank as .patches on OBS to meegotouch-l10n | 10:25 |
| vgrade__ | jukkaeklund: there is G9 Plasma Active Images with accel so a nemo one should be possible | 10:25 |
| neochapay | sledges: sorry ? Get me link :) | 10:26 |
| vgrade__ | jukkaeklund: http://share.basyskom.com/plasma-active/deployment/archos-gen9/tablet/mer/testing/weekly-pvr/ for kickstart | 10:28 |
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| sledges | neochapay: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/files?package=meegotouch-community-l10n&project=Project%3AMTF%3AUX | 10:29 |
| lbt | Sage: it feels like that issue (OBS returning "") is becoming a real problem - is there even a bug about it? Maybe it should be raised to high/critical as it impacts BOSS too. | 10:30 |
| sledges | jukkaeklund, but g9 is a tablet, and Nemo is for phone factors, isn't it? | 10:30 |
| Stskeeps | works okay on a tablet too (exopc) | 10:31 |
| sledges | I'm sure it does, but does its UX feel laptopy, or is it just a proof of concept? | 10:32 |
| Stskeeps | tablety | 10:32 |
| sledges | correct | 10:32 |
| sledges | for me it feels phoney more than tablety (think plasma active) | 10:33 |
| Stskeeps | tried new lipstick? | 10:33 |
| Xruxa | neochapay: what languare for the translations/what app? | 10:33 |
| neochapay | Xruxa: Russan | 10:36 |
| Xruxa | neochapay: for all strings available or for specific app? Very old GIT was here http://gitorious.org/meego-developer-edition-for-n900/meegotouch-community-l10n, I bet OBS has something newer | 10:36 |
| Xruxa | neochapay: and the existing russian translations are more of a joke anyway ;) | 10:38 |
| sledges | hm, Stskeeps, I guess when we will have widgets (ta to Sfiet_Konstantin) and Lipstick is extended to the notion of 'Activities', Nemo will converge a bit more to the KDE PA tablety concepts | 10:38 |
| Xruxa | sledges: is that good thing? | 10:39 |
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| Stskeeps | sledges: well, PA doesn't have the domination on 'activities' | 10:39 |
| neochapay | Xruxa: i see that :) | 10:40 |
| * Stskeeps knew of activity based computing before it was cool. | 10:40 | |
| sledges | Xruxa, it depends on Nemo's roadmap and who's steering. personally I see Nemo as phoney :) | 10:40 |
| Xruxa | sledges: me too | 10:40 |
| sledges | Xruxa, neochapay: OBS is sourcing from the same good old gitorious, would be nice to kick that gitorious repo back into life | 10:41 |
| Xruxa | sledges: or move it to github? | 10:42 |
| sledges | Xruxa, always a good idea. Also a 100% ideal if the old gitorious could then be deleted/redirected, to minimise redundancy+confusion for newcomers or other (what?) projects | 10:43 |
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| Xruxa | is the graphics system or display on N950 16bit? I'm seeing bad coloring and banding in gradients :( | 10:45 |
| Stskeeps | it's 16bpp | 10:46 |
| Xruxa | Sigh - guess I will have to dither some graphics first | 10:46 |
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| jukkaeklund | vgrade__ oh yes thats the thing I was looking for, thanks | 11:50 |
| jukkaeklund | and sledges, yes correct but nemo runs quite fine even for example in exopc | 11:50 |
| neochapay | Xruxa: îê i`am done where i can send patch !? | 11:52 |
| sledges | that is true jukkaeklund, it is a perfect (engineering) proof of concept | 12:03 |
| jukkaeklund | many folks have archos too | 12:04 |
| jukkaeklund | (I guess) | 12:04 |
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| sledges | ah, as a sort-of dev-device :) | 12:15 |
| * w00t has nemo running on exopc | 12:25 | |
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| * faenil doesn't want to study, he wants to play with Nemo and keep on coding...solution anyone? | 12:52 | |
| Sage | special, alterego: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=commhistory-daemon&project=home%3Asage%3Abranches%3ACE%3AMW%3AShared commhistory-daemon fails with new telepathy | 12:52 |
| Sage | w00t: hi | 12:52 |
| faenil | it seems some telepathy constants changed | 12:53 |
| w00t | Sage: o/ | 12:55 |
| faenil | or they were put in another header | 12:55 |
| faenil | moved to* | 12:55 |
| faenil | Sage, what's the updated telepathy package? | 12:57 |
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| faenil | is this already the updated one? or is there any newer version? https://build.pub.meego.com/package/files?package=telepathy-qt4&project=home%3Asage%3Abranches%3ACE%3AMW%3AShared | 13:00 |
| w00t | Sage: I want to start integrating packages for lockscreen changes (mcompositor, sysuid, lipstick, lipstick homescreen(s)) - do you have any preferences about when to start doing this? | 13:00 |
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| neochapay | w00t: please update i10n russian files | 13:05 |
| w00t | neochapay: ? | 13:06 |
| neochapay | w00t: I update russian translation of nemo and send you patch | 13:08 |
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| w00t | I haven't seen anything, but sending it to me wouldn't do very good as I wouldn't know what to do with it, best if you put it where it's supposed to be, and then you can verify if it's working properly | 13:11 |
| sledges | neochapay, exactly at the link you asked me for | 13:12 |
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| neochapay | w00t: but where it supposed to be ? :) | 13:13 |
| w00t | I have no idea | 13:14 |
| w00t | I have never touched translations | 13:14 |
| neochapay | sledges: and where should I send the results? | 13:15 |
| sledges | neochapay, you submit a patch, to OBS (the link I gave you) | 13:16 |
| sledges | Have you ever used OBS before? | 13:16 |
| neochapay | sledges: no | 13:17 |
| sledges | ok, neochapay, what did you translate so far? How does your patch look like and what files does it affect) | 13:17 |
| sledges | ? | 13:18 |
| neochapay | sledges: i translate all files some update, some create on https://gitorious.org/meego-developer-edition-for-n900/meegotouch-community-l10n and create merge requerest | 13:20 |
| sledges | ok, I see that under https://gitorious.org/meego-developer-edition-for-n900/meegotouch-community-l10n/merge_requests/1 | 13:21 |
| sledges | that is a good approach, neochapay , provided this repository is still alive and/or we have connections to its admins ( w00t ? ) | 13:21 |
| sledges | Xruxa, ^ apparently you committed last time nearly a year ago | 13:22 |
| neochapay | sledges: where the actual repo with actial files :) ? | 13:22 |
| sledges | w00t, shall we go the dirty old way-> patch to OBS, or a new dirty way-> clone repo go github/nemomobile/ (as Xruxa suggested earlier) ? | 13:22 |
| w00t | whatever Xruxa prefers, I guess | 13:23 |
| sledges | neochapay, this is the actual repo with actual files, it's just that it's dead as in meegotouch-* projects :) | 13:23 |
| sledges | ok, neochapay , you did the right thing for now (but only by luck, as Xruxa is still alive and hopefully he can either accept your merge request) - so you need to keep poking him | 13:24 |
| neochapay | sledges: and nemo uses it old files for translation interface !? | 13:25 |
| sledges | they are the newest files | 13:25 |
| sledges | 8-) | 13:25 |
| sledges | no translations have ever been made since | 13:25 |
| sledges | apparently | 13:25 |
| sledges | new applications use their own translation facilities (and do not go to meegotouch-..-l10n) | 13:26 |
| sledges | but all legacy meegotouch-* projects do | 13:26 |
| sledges | which apparently were not moved out of their grave for a while | 13:26 |
| sledges | mind that some of them are going away for good: meegotouch-home has been replaced by Lipstick QML | 13:26 |
| sledges | so all translations related to it are irrelevant | 13:27 |
| neochapay | sledges: it`s no goot - i think one land package been convenient to translate ? | 13:27 |
| sledges | it is, but Nemo is not a -one-package-OS- | 13:27 |
| sledges | meegotouch- just happened to be a lump, whereas all other tens/hundreds of packages are independent | 13:28 |
| w00t | translation will probably be more of a focus in the near future | 13:28 |
| neochapay | sledges: maybe create one i10n package for ui !? | 13:28 |
| sledges | and its unification | 13:28 |
| sledges | neochapay, see w00t's sentence ;) so yes, let's hope for the best | 13:28 |
| sledges | or volunteer to take action ;) | 13:29 |
| neochapay | so what do I do with my translation ? | 13:29 |
| sledges | poke Xruxa | 13:29 |
| sledges | (he got poked/pinged with his nick flashing already enough times today I guess :)) so if he does not come back, get back here (to us/me), and I will teach you OBS :) | 13:30 |
| sledges | give it a day, none of the patch requests happen overnight normally (but Nemo sometimes is a pleasant exception, which I am very much happy about | 13:31 |
| sledges | adding another point to many things I like about Nemo :) | 13:31 |
| w00t | Sage: ah, you pushed new lipstick already, so then it's just mcompositor and sysuid (+ homescreen package(s)) | 13:33 |
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| Sage | w00t: yes, push when ever you want | 14:03 |
| Sage | w00t: the old lipstick was totally broken with x86 thus needed to do update | 14:03 |
| w00t | ok | 14:04 |
| w00t | I'll submit today | 14:04 |
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| * Sage looks about commhistory-daemon faliure | 14:15 | |
| faenil | Sage, constants were renamed in 0.9.0 it seems | 14:18 |
| faenil | Sage, 0.8.0 request.insert(QLatin1String(TELEPATHY_INTERFACE_CHANNEL ".ChannelType"), | 14:19 |
| faenil | QLatin1String(TELEPATHY_INTERFACE_CHANNEL_TYPE_TEXT)); | 14:19 |
| faenil | 0.9.3 request.insert(TP_QT_IFACE_CHANNEL + QLatin1String(".ChannelType"), | 14:20 |
| faenil | TP_QT_IFACE_CHANNEL_TYPE_TEXT); | 14:20 |
| faenil | those are from telepathy-qt sources | 14:20 |
| faenil | (account.cpp) | 14:20 |
| faenil | TELEPATHY_ERROR_INVALID_ARGUMENT (which is in the build log), is now TP_QT_ERROR_INVALID_ARGUMENT | 14:28 |
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| Sage | faenil: yes, renaming currently those | 14:34 |
| faenil | Sage, ;) | 14:34 |
| faenil | Sage, you can find new constants here http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/doc/telepathy-qt/a00702.html | 14:34 |
| faenil | and old ones http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/doc/telepathy-qt4-0.2.x/group__typesconstants.html | 14:35 |
| Sage | thx | 14:35 |
| faenil | np :) | 14:35 |
| faenil | though I don't understand why there's no post, or clear message about that change on the web...I mean, pah | 14:36 |
| Xruxa | neochapay, sledges - I guess we will not dump Settings (meegotouch app) anytime soon. I'd put the new translations to different GIT module and package | 14:37 |
| Stskeeps | i'd like to drop settings but not until we have a qml replacement that works.. | 14:38 |
| Xruxa | Stskeeps: agreed | 14:38 |
| faenil | clicking on GPRS APN in settings app closes the settings page...known issue? | 14:40 |
| faenil | couldn't find anything on bugzilla | 14:41 |
| Stskeeps | bugplease | 14:41 |
| faenil | Stskeeps, http://pastie.org/4616750 | 14:43 |
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| Sage | faenil: not only names changed, they changed the types as well :) | 14:46 |
| faenil | Sage, :O lol | 14:46 |
| faenil | Sage, damn them :P | 14:47 |
| sledges | Xruxa, thank you for sorting this out. neochapay see things are working even faster than overnight! | 14:48 |
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| faenil | Stskeeps, done, https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=420 | 14:56 |
| Merbot | Bug 420: normal, Undecided, ---, need-triage, NEW, Clicking on Connections->GPRS APN crashes the settings app | 14:56 |
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| sledges | (thumbsup) | 14:56 |
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| Sage | /usr/include/telepathy-qt4/TelepathyQt/contact-manager.h:173:32: error: 'Tp::ContactPtr Tp::ContactManager::lookupContactByHandle(uint)' is private | 15:01 |
| Sage | contactauthorizer.cpp:379:102: error: within this context | 15:01 |
| Sage | fun | 15:01 |
| faenil | ouch | 15:02 |
| Sage | so there is more ;) | 15:03 |
| * Sage ponders if there is api change doc somewhere | 15:04 | |
| faenil | yeah that's what I was looking for... :/ | 15:04 |
| Sage | yey, they moved it to private from public | 15:05 |
| faenil | Sage, anyway, look what I've found just for you :) https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file?file=fix_private_contactsForHandles.diff&package=telepathy-qt4-yell&project=home%3Acgiboudeaux%3Aattic&rev=ce795a1a2f758d35615580530033bff4 | 15:05 |
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| faenil | :) | 15:06 |
| Sage | that api was present in previous qt version they just removed part of the public api | 15:06 |
| Sage | was present already | 15:06 |
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| faenil | ah-ha | 15:08 |
| alterego | w00t: QGLFramebufferObject: Unsupported framebuffer format. | 15:15 |
| w00t | alterego: context? | 15:17 |
| alterego | Seems to be in the qt labs shader on mer. | 15:18 |
| alterego | Looks like I'm setting up my QML view incorrectly I guess. | 15:18 |
| alterego | But can't seem to get it to work. | 15:18 |
| w00t | mm | 15:20 |
| alterego | I'm sure I managed to get this to work in mer before .. | 15:20 |
| w00t | I doubt I'm of much help, I only used shaders in QML2 - and those worked (but way slowly on N9[50] | 15:21 |
| * w00t wonders if newer maliit would fix some of our many vkb quirks | 15:23 | |
| alterego | Having said that, when I did it last it was as a x root window | 15:26 |
| alterego | Maybe that's the problem. | 15:26 |
| Xruxa | w00t: we use custom maliit UI plugin | 15:27 |
| alterego | yes, that's "fixed" it | 15:27 |
| w00t | Xruxa: it's not so much the plugin that bothers me as it making the exopc usage hell by never redrawing properly, and stuff | 15:29 |
| w00t | and i doubt that's your fault :-p | 15:29 |
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| Xruxa | at least this one time :) | 15:31 |
| w00t | hehe | 15:33 |
| * w00t looks at lockscreen build tests | 15:33 | |
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| Sage | faenil: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=0001-lookupContactByHandle-is-now-private.patch&package=commhistory-daemon&project=home%3Asage%3Abranches%3ACE%3AMW%3AShared&rev=e6f99b505eec5ae72ff4ff93f0f6ae7a :) | 15:54 |
| faenil | Sage, ahahah :D | 15:55 |
| Sage | and https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=0001-Some-defines-renamed-in-new-tp-qt.patch&package=commhistory-daemon&project=home%3Asage%3Abranches%3ACE%3AMW%3AShared&rev=aa24bb08e8f5fa96892384cc790e1b41 | 15:57 |
| Sage | alterego: ^ might want to review those :) | 15:57 |
| Sage | ok, maybe now I can push the telepathy update to nemo | 15:59 |
| faenil | \o/ | 16:00 |
| alterego | That looks good Sage, thanks :) | 16:03 |
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| alterego | As suspected, that's a power suck too. | 16:05 |
| alterego | More so than gaussian blur | 16:05 |
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| * alterego looks at optimizations | 16:05 | |
| Sage | w00t: ever heard about creq? ;) | 16:05 |
| the-boss` | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6493 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/6493 | 16:07 |
| Sage | w00t: looks like https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/6493 :) | 16:09 |
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| faenil | leaving, bye people :) | 16:29 |
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| Sage | w00t: is something obsoleting the padlock that is removed? | 16:42 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage: well, good thing we'll move eventually.. | 17:22 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: yes :) | 18:02 |
| Sage | I just hope the new thing works better than this old one | 18:02 |
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| Sage | lbt: btw, boss accepted a request but never said here anything. | 18:16 |
| Sage | lbt: https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/6493 is not showing accepted eventhough when I check repos it is accepted | 18:16 |
| Sage | lbt: it is starting to be very hard to follow obs as I can't really trust to any of the messages anymore :/ | 18:29 |
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| lbt | Sage: I'm sorry, I can't do anything to debug it :( | 18:44 |
| lbt | Sage: http://pastie.org/4618044 here's the logs | 18:46 |
| lbt | http://pastie.org/4618062 | 18:49 |
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| special | Sage: did commhistory get fixed? | 19:04 |
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| Sage | special: yes | 20:03 |
| Sage | well, didn't try the code though after the fix as I'm not sure how to test each thing that worked :) | 20:04 |
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| special | mm, good | 20:09 |
| special | mind if I apply your patches to github.com/nemomobile/commhistory-daemon? | 20:10 |
| faenil | evening :) hi special | 20:16 |
| special | hi | 20:16 |
| w00t | Sage: no, I hadn't | 20:26 |
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| faenil | c'mon w00t, don't be that aggressive :) | 21:15 |
| special | code review is important. | 21:16 |
| faenil | yeah, I'm just joking ;) | 21:17 |
| w00t | faenil: I don't like code being merged without any review at all, which is why I often nag special to review something if I'm working on my own, for instance - and I am very particular about it being merged when it isn't in good condition :-p | 21:17 |
| faenil | w00t, you're completely right ;) though you're scaring niqt this way :D | 21:18 |
| * w00t hasn't even pulled a linus "you're being an idiot" yet :-p | 21:19 | |
| * faenil reads w00t's post about regexp in the meanwhile :D learning is good :) | 21:19 | |
| faenil | ahahahah :D | 21:19 |
| faenil | I met Giuseppe D'Angelo at QtDD11 :) | 21:25 |
| faenil | (I'm italian too) | 21:25 |
| faenil | holy crap, is QRegExp that slow ? :O | 21:27 |
| special | it's pretty bad. | 21:28 |
| faenil | yeah :/ and what did they choose for Qt5 in the end? PCRE? | 21:28 |
| special | QRegExp is unchanged in Qt5, but deprecated in favor of QRegularExpression, which is PCRE | 21:29 |
| special | iirc. | 21:29 |
| w00t | QRegularExpression is backed by PCRE, QRegExp is untouched due to backwards compatibility | 21:29 |
| faenil | great :) | 21:29 |
| faenil | w00t, you didn't attend QtDD11, did you | 21:33 |
| w00t | no | 21:38 |
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| faenil | pity, would have been nice to meet :) | 21:38 |
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| * w00t grumbles and looks at heliumreborn | 21:41 | |
| w00t | special/faenil: can you review https://github.com/nemomobile/heliumreborn/pull/2 please? you two know things about pinch, I don't | 21:41 |
| niqt | hi | 21:42 |
| w00t | niqt: evening | 21:42 |
| faenil | w00t, sure, I can review it tomorrow morning ;) unless special wants to do it first, I'm heading to bed :) | 21:44 |
| niqt | woot: i create some problems/re-work :( sorry | 21:45 |
| w00t | niqt: as I said, don't sweat it | 21:47 |
| w00t | it's great you're working on it, so let's just work on getting it into good shape | 21:47 |
| niqt | what should I do? | 21:49 |
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| w00t | niqt: start off addressing the comments I made, and push new pull requests, and we'll go from there | 21:53 |
| w00t | there's some other things I'd like to address before I think I'd be happy with it (internationalisation and stuff in particular), filtering is a bit of a tricky problem | 21:54 |
| niqt | i choosed this bug because was high | 21:55 |
| faenil | good night people :) cya tomorrow ;) | 21:56 |
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| w00t | as in, was high priority? | 21:57 |
| niqt | yes | 21:57 |
| w00t | it's definitely needed, but there's other things that would be quite nice to have too that aren't so involved, up to you | 21:57 |
| niqt | ok | 21:58 |
| w00t | lpotter: reping | 22:08 |
| w00t | lpotter: I wanted to talk to you about sensorfw when you're around | 22:08 |
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| lpotter | ok. was about to leave for the last day bbq | 23:30 |
| lpotter | will be around in about 6 hours or so. or email. | 23:31 |
| w00t | lpotter: sure, there's no hurry | 23:43 |
| w00t | let me know when you've time | 23:43 |
| w00t | enjoy (as much as is possible) | 23:43 |
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