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| iekku | morning | 03:22 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5956 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5956 | 04:24 |
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| Ionakka | sledges: morning \o/ | 06:06 |
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| crevetor | Hey guys, I have a C++ question (related to a nemo bug) | 15:43 |
| crevetor | I have this inside namespace ResourcePolicy {} : void resourcesBecameAvailable(const QList<ResourcePolicy::ResourceType> &availableResources); | 15:43 |
| crevetor | does it translate to void resourcesBecameAvailable(const QList<ResourcePolicy::ResourcePolicy::ResourceType> &availableResources); | 15:44 |
| crevetor | ? | 15:44 |
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| blizzow | Is there a list of what works on the N900 port of nemo? | 15:50 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5982 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5982 | 15:51 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5981 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5981 | 15:51 |
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| Sage | blizzow: no, but we should probably create a stoplight page to nemo wiki with different hw adaptations | 15:53 |
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| faenil | "The Video item is only visible when the hasVideo property is true and the video is playing." | 15:56 |
| faenil | truth is, QML thinks hasVideo is false, but the video plays | 15:56 |
| faenil | Sage, when are we switching to Qt5 in Nemo? | 15:57 |
| blizzow | Sage: I'm just looking for the basic features...email, SMS, wifi, and camera. | 16:00 |
| phdeswer | Sage, submitted new requests with the corrections as requested yesterday | 16:03 |
| phdeswer | Sage, And you should just have waited as the new usb-moded actually has the glib build fix too (was actually in the changes of yesterdays submit) | 16:03 |
| sledges | Sage can I highlight your name one more tome? | 16:04 |
| faenil | are apps hw accelerated by default on Nemo? or do I have to specify a QGLWidget as viewport? | 16:13 |
| sledges | I remember nothing was accelerated back in March experimenting with Nemo on imx53 | 16:25 |
| sledges | except QmlComponentsGallery (+Extras) | 16:25 |
| sledges | and some apps which claimed to be accelerated (`qmlviewer -opengl`) had a broken gles implementation | 16:25 |
| sledges | and would just crash | 16:25 |
| sledges | hope things've gotten better since then :) | 16:26 |
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| faenil | is there any chance we can bring in http://cgit.freedesktop.org/gstreamer/qt-gstreamer/ | 16:41 |
| faenil | ? | 16:41 |
| faenil | I feel alone this afternoon... :P | 16:41 |
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| faenil | what has everyone gone :P am I missing an event or something? :D | 16:44 |
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| Sage | faenil: When ever people start using it in apps I guess. We probably move to qt5 gradually. However probably waiting before qt5 announced, but well nothing has been decided. | 16:46 |
| faenil | I see, so it will take some months | 16:46 |
| Sage | blizzow: bugzilla and latest snapshot should give quite good overview what works and what is missing. | 16:46 |
| faenil | Sage, I think we need that library to make our life a tiny bit easier with the gallery...since QML Video is a MESS! | 16:47 |
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| faenil | :( | 16:47 |
| Sage | phdeswer: ok, will review those again. Sry for the usb-moded fix. Planned of doing a -next snapshot soon and didn't know when you planned of fixing things :) | 16:47 |
| Sage | sledges: sure why not :) | 16:47 |
| phdeswer | Sage, no worries. As long as things get fixed :p | 16:49 |
| blizzow | I went through the install anyway. My N900 is only a backup phone now. Nemo looks nice. Now I'm trying to figure out what packages I should install. | 16:50 |
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| blizzow | Trying to figure out how to exit or get back to the home screen at any time. I got kind of stuck in the sms messaging window. | 16:51 |
| blizzow | :) | 16:52 |
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| alterego | flick from the sides of the screen inwards. | 16:55 |
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| alterego | wtf, now mkfs is complaining that a partition is mounted when it's not O_o | 17:07 |
| * alterego mumbles something about ubuntu | 17:08 | |
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| faenil | Sage, were you talking about "could not read symbols: Bad value" today? | 17:31 |
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| alterego | Sage: what package has ofono.rules in? Because it isn't present... | 17:36 |
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| alterego | Hmm | 17:45 |
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| Sage | alterego: iirc latest ofono shouldn't need that file as those are recognized automatically or something. might not be correct on isi modems though. | 18:10 |
| alterego | Sage: seems that is correct ;) | 18:11 |
| alterego | As it only works when that file is present. | 18:11 |
| Sage | ah, nice :) | 18:11 |
| Sage | ofono 1.8 that is? | 18:11 |
| alterego | Yes | 18:11 |
| alterego | But it doesn't get started by systemd, as I mentioned in #mer | 18:11 |
| Sage | alterego: well that is the network problem that exist in latest mer | 18:12 |
| Sage | alterego: fix already in -next | 18:12 |
| alterego | And I was wondering what the nature of the issue was with connman + systemd | 18:12 |
| Sage | alterego: well ofono had same problem than connman. | 18:13 |
| Sage | alterego: ln -s ../network.target /lib/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/network.target | 18:13 |
| alterego | Yay \o/ :) | 18:13 |
| Sage | that should fix ofono and connman both | 18:13 |
| alterego | Thanks :) | 18:13 |
| Sage | alterego: what is the content of the ofono.rules file you have btw? | 18:13 |
| alterego | http://lists.ofono.org/pipermail/ofono/2011-December/012111.html | 18:14 |
| alterego | Wait, wrong link | 18:14 |
| alterego | http://git.kernel.org/?p=network/ofono/ofono.git;a=blob_plain;f=plugins/ofono.rules;h=3ed9f1615414ba0afe139b5b6b3a8989db84389c;hb=HEAD | 18:14 |
| alterego | Where I replaced n900 with n950 | 18:14 |
| Sage | ah, k | 18:15 |
| alterego | A fair bit of that file may be redundant for our use cases. | 18:16 |
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| Sage | alterego: yes, need to check the history of that file | 18:16 |
| alterego | I'd recommend trimming it down and making an n900 one, then sticking them in n950-configs and n900-configs | 18:16 |
| alterego | Would be easier than having different ofono packages ;) | 18:17 |
| Sage | alterego: well, yes and no. | 18:17 |
| alterego | Yay, calls working with ofono 1.8! :D | 18:19 |
| Stskeeps | \o/ | 18:19 |
| special | yay | 18:20 |
| alterego | And all it took was that .rules file and the multi-user.target symlink :) | 18:20 |
| faenil | \o/ | 18:20 |
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| alterego | Ooo, ohm volume works in new image too :D | 18:21 |
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| alterego | Wow, this is actually really awesome :D | 18:22 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5966 Rejected promotion request | 18:22 |
| alterego | ohmd fix made a _lot_ of stuff work properly :) | 18:22 |
| alterego | No if only I could figure out why I can't build against TelepathyQt4 in scratchbox2 | 18:25 |
| * alterego looks at Stskeeps | 18:25 | |
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| alterego | ~Now .. | 18:25 |
| * Sage is feeling like a ping pong ball atm. when playing with obs | 18:29 | |
| alterego | Yeah, why doesn't build-uid ever work for me | 18:29 |
| alterego | Why is sb2 not letting stuff compile against headers that are there | 18:29 |
| Stskeeps | alterego: how did you install them? | 18:30 |
| * alterego thinks of other stuff to moan. | 18:30 | |
| alterego | Stskeeps: sb2 -m sdk-install -R zypper in blak | 18:30 |
| alterego | ~blah, I'm not racist. | 18:30 |
| Stskeeps | sledges: ok, and sb2 -m sdk-build when 'make'? | 18:31 |
| Stskeeps | what location is your sources in? | 18:31 |
| alterego | Stskeeps: nope | 18:31 |
| alterego | ang on | 18:31 |
| Sage | https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=Project:MTF:MW <- does that redirect to somewhere odd on you guys? | 18:31 |
| Sage | I'm getting builbuild.pub.meego.com | 18:32 |
| Sage | or is it just my browser gone mad | 18:32 |
| alterego | Stskeeps: still same error | 18:32 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: browser gone mad, or you | 18:32 |
| Stskeeps | alterego: what location.. | 18:33 |
| alterego | ~/Projects/voicecall/voicecall | 18:33 |
| Stskeeps | ok, and your $HOME is where? | 18:33 |
| alterego | /home/tswindell | 18:33 |
| alterego | It works compiling against all the other bloody libs :/. | 18:34 |
| alterego | It's just telepathy-qt4 | 18:34 |
| Stskeeps | okay, add -d option? | 18:34 |
| Stskeeps | to sb2 call | 18:34 |
| alterego | http://pastie.org/private/tvpryk5ze9ecchxwvpilg | 18:35 |
| alterego | Why would it only break for one lib :/ | 18:36 |
| Sage | !"?%"!? linkpac -f doesn't override the _link file pah | 18:37 |
| Merbot | Sage: Error: "?%" is not a valid command. | 18:37 |
| alterego | lolololololol | 18:37 |
| alterego | @ Merbot :) | 18:37 |
| w00t | ohmd got fixed? what was wrong with it? | 18:37 |
| alterego | Several things | 18:38 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5998 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5998 | 18:38 |
| Sage | \o/ finally CE:MW:MTF is empty | 18:38 |
| alterego | \o/ | 18:39 |
| alterego | Ah, that means I can implement the resource policy stuff. | 18:39 |
| alterego | Maybe next iter .. | 18:39 |
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| alterego | Stskeeps: http://pastie.org/private/tvpryk5ze9ecchxwvpilg | 18:39 |
| Stskeeps | ok, and do what it says? | 18:39 |
| * alterego waits patiently for chinese. | 18:39 | |
| Stskeeps | or er, | 18:40 |
| Stskeeps | send me the .log | 18:40 |
| w00t | where's TelepathyQt? /usr/include? | 18:40 |
| alterego | /usr/include/telepathy-1.0/TelepathyQt | 18:41 |
| * w00t would try stick strace in and figure out what it's doing, without having any better idea of diagnostics.. | 18:43 | |
| alterego | Stskeeps: you have mail (gmail) | 18:43 |
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| alterego | Stskeeps: lin 21927 | 18:46 |
| alterego | ~line | 18:46 |
| alterego | It's mapped wrong .. | 18:46 |
| alterego | Maybe, I dunno, it all looks a bit insane to me .. | 18:48 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5998 Accepted promotion request | 18:58 |
| Sage | special: your libcommhistory patch is finally in. It got middle of ping pong game between me and obs :) | 18:59 |
| Stskeeps | alterego: tell me how you set up your sb2 target | 18:59 |
| alterego | Stskeeps: followed the instructions herE: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_and_SB2 | 18:59 |
| alterego | But with updated image. | 18:59 |
| Stskeeps | alterego: run 'sb2-init' for m | 18:59 |
| Stskeeps | e | 18:59 |
| alterego | Just sb2-init ? | 19:00 |
| alterego | sb2-init -L --sysroot=/ -C --sysroot=/ -c /usr/bin/qemu-arm-dynamic -m sdk-build -n -N -t / nemo-sdk-armv7hl /opt/cross/bin/armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi-gcc ) | 19:00 |
| alterego | Is that the line you're looking for? | 19:00 |
| special | Sage: thanks | 19:00 |
| special | Sage: how soon do you need working SMS? | 19:01 |
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| Stskeeps | alterego: that looks correct.. | 19:03 |
| alterego | uh oh ... | 19:03 |
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| alterego | Oh wait, that is right | 19:03 |
| alterego | I didn't do -d | 19:04 |
| alterego | but I set that up afterwards .. | 19:04 |
| * alterego sighs | 19:04 | |
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| Sage | special: you sure you want to ask it like that? ;) | 19:08 |
| special | haha | 19:08 |
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| w00t | special: yesterday | 19:17 |
| w00t | (guess who wants to use nemo on their n9?) | 19:17 |
| faenil | ^ | 19:17 |
| special | well | 19:17 |
| special | good luck. :p | 19:17 |
| w00t | once I have working SMS and phonecalls, I will be starting | 19:17 |
| special | SMS can be working really soon, but it won't work very well until commhistory is used | 19:18 |
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| special | and there's some notification work that has to be done after that | 19:18 |
| w00t | Sage: why am I seeing a constant 3% CPU use by systemd-journal after running zypper up recently? | 19:18 |
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| Stskeeps | w00t: 'journalctl' | 19:19 |
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| w00t | ah, delightful | 19:19 |
| w00t | pulseaudio is going spastic | 19:19 |
| Stskeeps | HSI ? | 19:20 |
| w00t | Jan 01 02:08:08 localhost pulseaudio[408]: cmtspeech-connection.c: closing and reopening cmtspeech device | 19:20 |
| w00t | Jan 01 02:08:08 localhost pulseaudio[408]: libcmtspeechdata: nokiamodem_backend: unable to open device /dev/cmt_speech ('No such device'). | 19:20 |
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| w00t | we've seen thato ne before | 19:21 |
| w00t | I forget why, and what the cause was | 19:21 |
| special | w00t: run dmesg | 19:21 |
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| w00t | HSI it is | 19:24 |
| w00t | do we know what's up with that, then? | 19:24 |
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| w00t | Stskeeps: did you know a solution for that HSI problem? my battery will thank you :P | 20:03 |
| alterego | w00t: ifconfig phonet0 up | 20:05 |
| w00t | who's responsible for doing that, then? do we have a bug filed? | 20:06 |
| alterego | Not sure | 20:06 |
| alterego | And I don't know why phonet0 isn't being bought up on start. | 20:06 |
| alterego | But we do have a guy looking in to it I believe. | 20:06 |
| Venemo | hey guys :) | 20:07 |
| special | alterego: will we have commhistory from QML in the next ~week? | 20:08 |
| phdeswer | alterego, is somebody using that phonet0 interface? | 20:10 |
| w00t | Venemo: hi | 20:11 |
| Sage | I would think that ofono should be responsible of bringing phonet0 up | 20:11 |
| Venemo | hey w00t :) | 20:12 |
| w00t | Venemo: any progress on homescreen? i'd like to hit the button to switch defaults ASAP :) | 20:12 |
| phdeswer | Sage, phonet is mostly a Nokia specific thing | 20:12 |
| w00t | if you're too busy, that's fine, we can switch to lipstick-example-home for now | 20:12 |
| w00t | phdeswer: this is on an n950 | 20:12 |
| w00t | so, it being nokia specific kinda makes sense :) | 20:12 |
| Venemo | w00t: no way. I'll have something for you tomorrow :) | 20:13 |
| w00t | Venemo: ok, i'm just impatient ;-) | 20:13 |
| alterego | phdeswer: phonet is used for communicate with the cellmo, it's pretty essential ;) | 20:13 |
| alterego | Hence why cmtspeech barfs when it can't access it and modem doesn't come on line. | 20:13 |
| Venemo | w00t: I got a flu, so that's why I've been so silent in the past few days | 20:13 |
| alterego | I imagine when we get modem coming online automatically with onfono 1.8 it'll bring phonet up too. | 20:14 |
| w00t | Venemo: by the way, once I got back into internals as I have been the past few days, I'm really not liking WindowInfo <-> SwitcherModel <-> WindowPixmapItem interaction, so I think I'm going to be prototyping some work to make that feel a little more normal/obvious | 20:14 |
| alterego | special: I'll push declarative commhistory plugin before the weekend. | 20:15 |
| Venemo | w00t: yeah, I looked on that myself after reimplementing LauncherModel and LauncherItem | 20:15 |
| Venemo | w00t: I didn't like it either, but couldn't come up with an obvious solution. | 20:15 |
| phdeswer | alterego, afaik the phonet0 was coming from g_nokia. But I could be mistaken. | 20:15 |
| alterego | w00t: what are your opinions on having that in nemo-qml-plugins? | 20:15 |
| alterego | phdeswer: it may well do, but ofono relies on it for N9(XX) cellmo | 20:16 |
| w00t | alterego: shove a pull request up and we can talk about it, but probably fine :-) | 20:16 |
| Stskeeps | phdeswer: i think it shares it a bit, it can forward it to usb side too | 20:16 |
| special | mm, I'm not sure it belongs in nemo-qml-plugins | 20:16 |
| alterego | w00t: it will pull in a dep to libcommhistory | 20:16 |
| alterego | special: it's a qml plugin, for nemo :P | 20:16 |
| Venemo | w00t: one possible way to do it is having our own image provider | 20:16 |
| w00t | Venemo: image providers don't really work | 20:16 |
| Venemo | w00t: why not? | 20:17 |
| w00t | or well, I suppose it would since we keep the serial exposed | 20:17 |
| alterego | Stskeeps: did you have any more thoughts on why telepathy includes aren't working for me? | 20:17 |
| w00t | source: "image://windowpixmap/" + model.id + "/" + model.some_name_for_serial; or something | 20:17 |
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| alterego | Stskeeps: I might try making a clean sb2 target | 20:17 |
| Stskeeps | alterego: do a clean one | 20:18 |
| phdeswer | alterego, seems on the N9 it comes from somewhere else. So you're probably right | 20:18 |
| w00t | that might work | 20:18 |
| w00t | if we do that, then we can make WindowInfo the canonical place to update all attributes about a window (including the pixmap) | 20:18 |
| Venemo | w00t: I was thinking like this: switcherpixmapitem could expose a property called imageurl, which then could be like, lipstickwindowpixmap://23542352 (where the number is the win id) | 20:18 |
| w00t | Venemo: not good enough | 20:19 |
| w00t | window pixmaps aren't static images | 20:19 |
| w00t | and there's no way to force-reload an Image | 20:19 |
| Venemo | indeed | 20:19 |
| special | how often do you expect updates? | 20:19 |
| w00t | that's why the serial trick exists, horrid as it is | 20:19 |
| w00t | special: as often as the window updates | 20:19 |
| special | you don't want to try updating an image from a QDIP at 60fps. | 20:19 |
| w00t | you won't see 60fps updates in the switcher | 20:20 |
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| special | nor at 30fps | 20:20 |
| w00t | I'm reasonably sure that Qt throttles drawing pretty drastically there | 20:20 |
| w00t | anyway | 20:20 |
| w00t | we'll see | 20:20 |
| Venemo | w00t: anyway, I couldn't come up with a sane architecture for that, so decided to leave it as it is | 20:20 |
| w00t | I'll invest some time into this tomorrow and see how it looks | 20:20 |
| w00t | I can't leave it as-is now because I need to change some assumptions that go on to fix one of our bugs | 20:21 |
| Venemo | w00t, special: one possible way to optimize it is only drawing them when the desktop is actually visible | 20:21 |
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| w00t | https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=338 really annoys the crap out of me btw | 20:21 |
| Merbot | Bug 338: normal, Undecided, ---, need-triage, NEW, LauncherItem icon lookups are really really slow, especially when the icon is not found | 20:21 |
| special | there is a lot of image/pixmap copying and texture uploads involved in QDIP | 20:22 |
| Venemo | w00t: I didn't even notice that | 20:22 |
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| Venemo | w00t: I did notice your todo comment on the icon logic, but perf seemed reasonably okay for me | 20:22 |
| w00t | they're ok until they don't exist | 20:22 |
| w00t | in which case it goes wild and searches shitloads of directories until it finally decides that it doesn't exist | 20:23 |
| w00t | basically, the logic we have there could way, way be improved | 20:23 |
| Venemo | I thought about putting a generic "no icon" icon in there for icons that are not found | 20:23 |
| w00t | waste of time, I think | 20:24 |
| w00t | also means that it can't be handled on the UI end, if someone wanted to e.g. omit entries without icons, or display them differently | 20:25 |
| Venemo | yeah. | 20:25 |
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| Venemo | question: do you want me to work on a personal clone of our things and keep filing merge requests or I should just push to the repo now? | 20:26 |
| Venemo | w00t: ^ | 20:27 |
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| alterego | Venemo: I'd keep doing MRs forces you to keep a decent log of changes ;) | 20:28 |
| alterego | And just push feature/fixes | 20:28 |
| Venemo | MR=? | 20:28 |
| alterego | pull request | 20:28 |
| alterego | MR = merge request, gitorious lingo for the same thing ;) | 20:28 |
| Venemo | ah | 20:29 |
| Venemo | I keep a decent log of changes, all the time anyway | 20:29 |
| alterego | That's good. | 20:29 |
| w00t | for larger stuff, pull requests is good, smaller stuff, just do it - obviously, please do talk about things too, as wading through a huge changeset like the last one wasn't very fun :-p | 20:29 |
| alterego | lol | 20:29 |
| Venemo | w00t: you can't blame me - I told you what I was going to do :P | 20:29 |
| w00t | yes, but please submit it in smaller chunks | 20:29 |
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| Sage | What do people think about dropping the "handset" from the nemo image names. Currently images are nemo-handset-armv7hl-n900 should we just name them nemo-armv7hl-n900? | 20:31 |
| w00t | sounds fine to me, i'd still quite like to run it on tablets ;) | 20:33 |
| Venemo | w00t: sorry for that | 20:35 |
| w00t | Venemo: no need to apologise | 20:36 |
| w00t | you did good work | 20:36 |
| w00t | it's just a note for making collaboration easier :) | 20:36 |
| Venemo | sure | 20:36 |
| alterego | Sage: sounds fine. | 20:36 |
| faenil | Venemo, I only put 6 commits in the PR and I was told the same :D | 20:37 |
| faenil | so smaller :) | 20:37 |
| alterego | Stskeeps: Cant open /var/run/zypp.pid in mode w | 20:37 |
| Venemo | faenil: yeah, this way dozens of commits | 20:37 |
| alterego | Stskeeps: when attempting to do sb2 zypper ref :/ | 20:37 |
| Venemo | faenil: yeah, this was dozens of commits | 20:37 |
| Venemo | https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/s720x720/528158_514827085209696_964301943_n.jpg LOL | 20:39 |
| faenil | Venemo, yeah I received the email when you sent the PR :) | 20:41 |
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| Venemo | I get lots of spam from github too | 20:45 |
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| w00t | (sorry!) | 20:50 |
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| Venemo | hehe, np :) | 20:52 |
| Venemo | w00t: have you managed to package the lib + the plugin? | 20:55 |
| w00t | Venemo: yes, and both are in nemo now | 20:55 |
| Venemo | w00t: awesome. so I can just get them with zypper? | 20:56 |
| w00t | should work, zypper ref, rpm -e meegotouch-home, zypper in lipstick-example-home | 20:56 |
| faenil | mm I think wifi on my nemo is stuck, can't connect to wifi network | 20:58 |
| faenil | and disabling wifi doesn't make the network disappear | 20:58 |
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| faenil | I click on the network and nothing happens | 20:58 |
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| Venemo | w00t: by the way, how long are we planning to stick to the mtf-based settings app? | 20:59 |
| special | Venemo: sounds like you just signed up to rewrite it | 21:00 |
| Venemo | :D | 21:00 |
| w00t | no immediate plans to replace that as it mostly functions, and we're missing a lot of other stuff | 21:00 |
| w00t | mid-long term, definitely, it'll go | 21:00 |
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| faenil | mmm so, if I disable wifi other networks disappear, my network doesn't disappear | 21:02 |
| faenil | and I can't click on it | 21:02 |
| faenil | even when wifi is enabled | 21:03 |
| Venemo | w00t: in bugzilla, UX/Home is now ours, right? | 21:03 |
| w00t | Venemo: yes | 21:03 |
| Venemo | w00t: I just found my todo notes. prepare to get flooded | 21:04 |
| w00t | faenil: restart connman? but sounds odd, probably worth a bug | 21:04 |
| w00t | Venemo: go nuts | 21:04 |
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| Venemo | w00t: seems that you already found the other things I wanted to file | 21:07 |
| faenil | w00t, restarting connman fixed it, probably a bug | 21:07 |
| w00t | Venemo: ;) | 21:07 |
| Venemo | ok, I need to install the Mer SDK here | 21:09 |
| Venemo | then reflash my N950 | 21:09 |
| faenil | :) | 21:10 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5981 Rejected promotion request | 21:25 |
| Venemo | w00t: what is the process to include something new in Nemo? | 21:26 |
| faenil | w00t, do you know George Kiagiadakis by any chance? | 21:27 |
| w00t | Venemo: we don't have much formal process.. discuss it a bit, and submit it | 21:27 |
| w00t | faenil: not really, no | 21:27 |
| Venemo | w00t: I think my little puzzle game could add a bit of fun to the default Nemo install | 21:27 |
| w00t | isn't it already there? | 21:27 |
| faenil | w00t, he works in Collabora and is the man behind qtgstreamer, the official qt wrapper for qtgstreamer | 21:28 |
| faenil | thanks anyway ;) | 21:28 |
| Venemo | not that I'm aware of. | 21:28 |
| faenil | gstreamer* | 21:28 |
| * w00t has PuzzleMaster on nemo | 21:28 | |
| faenil | I have it too | 21:28 |
| Venemo | how did you get it? :O | 21:28 |
| Venemo | and what version? | 21:28 |
| faenil | it was there | 21:28 |
| w00t | no idea, I guess someone thought it was a good idea ;-) | 21:28 |
| Venemo | awesome | 21:28 |
| w00t | 2.0.2 | 21:28 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5982 Rejected promotion request | 21:29 |
| Venemo | so someone behind my back threw it there :) that's actually very nice of them :) | 21:29 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: Uploading images to http://sage.kapsi.fi/Nemo-tmp/0.20120816.0.2.NEMO.2012-08-21.1/images/ | 21:31 |
| Venemo | any idea who did it? :P | 21:31 |
| faenil | I wanted to try qtgstreamer for the videos in gallery, but I couldn't get it to compile the qmlplayer example...I get undefined reference following the instructions, and can't find which library is missing | 21:31 |
| Venemo | maybe you just need to add something to the linker command line | 21:32 |
| faenil | though I managed to build qtgstreamer withous issues (I actually had to add -fPIC to CXX_FLAGS) | 21:32 |
| faenil | Venemo, eh :P | 21:32 |
| faenil | Venemo, problem is which one? | 21:32 |
| Venemo | faenil: how sould i know | 21:33 |
| faenil | you should not :) | 21:33 |
| Venemo | :P | 21:33 |
| faenil | it has to do with glib, but it is already linked | 21:33 |
| w00t | Sage: ooh, release time? :p | 21:34 |
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| Venemo | just in time | 21:34 |
| faenil | wow, 2 weeks gone already | 21:34 |
| Venemo | I haven't reflashed yet :P | 21:34 |
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| Venemo | Sage: where are the N950 images? | 21:37 |
| alterego | Venemo: I was playing it last night, it's come a long way since I was helping you :D | 21:38 |
| Venemo | alterego: indeed it has :) | 21:38 |
| alterego | I really like it, really polished and everything you did really well. | 21:38 |
| Venemo | thanks, nice to hear that :) | 21:38 |
| Sage | w00t: that is just testing images for next mer release. So might be quite badly broken as well | 21:39 |
| Venemo | alterego: I have tons of effort in making the logic behind the multitouch handling feel natural | 21:39 |
| Sage | w00t: but after the next mer release is done new snapshot will be made yes | 21:39 |
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| Venemo | alterego: have you had any success with your Qt Creator integration efforts? | 21:44 |
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| alterego | Venemo: sure, got it all working | 21:46 |
| Venemo | alterego: srsly? :) | 21:46 |
| alterego | Venemo: need to update the wiki page though | 21:46 |
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| alterego | Venemo: yup, build->deploy->run all work now :) | 21:47 |
| alterego | The run is a bit of a cludge, but working on making that nicer. | 21:47 |
| Venemo | alterego: please update the wiki | 21:47 |
| alterego | Also looking at implementing a automated script that you can just run, rather than have all that manual project config steps | 21:48 |
| Venemo | alterego, does it work with custom process steps? | 21:49 |
| alterego | Basically it's all alternative executables for the default steps | 21:49 |
| Venemo | but does it still need configuring in a per-project manner? | 21:50 |
| alterego | yes | 21:51 |
| Venemo | :( | 21:51 |
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| alterego | Which is why I need to write the automation script until we get a nice shiny Qt Creator plugin | 21:51 |
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| Venemo | I see | 22:00 |
| Venemo | btw, shouldn't we change the text in the boot loader? | 22:01 |
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| Venemo | hm. nemo is incredibly slow after reflash. is that normal? | 22:07 |
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| alterego | Venemo: it is for the first few minutes yeah | 22:07 |
| Venemo | hm. | 22:07 |
| Venemo | patience is a virtue | 22:07 |
| faenil | yes | 22:08 |
| faenil | tracker, Venemo | 22:08 |
| faenil | indexing | 22:08 |
| Venemo | what is there for it to index? | 22:08 |
| * faenil sings "sad but true" | 22:08 | |
| Venemo | I mean, wtf. | 22:08 |
| alterego | The entire filesystem :) | 22:08 |
| Venemo | couldn't we make that indexing thing happen at the time when the image is built? | 22:09 |
| Venemo | that would improve first impression on Nemo, a lot | 22:09 |
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| alterego | We could, it's never really bothered me. | 22:10 |
| Venemo | anyone who is unaware of this, could flash nemo on a device and then rate nemo as "slow crap" because of this. | 22:11 |
| alterego | Well, they haven't yet :P | 22:12 |
| Venemo | I mean, not even the lock screen is displaying properly | 22:12 |
| Venemo | nor anything else | 22:12 |
| Venemo | meh | 22:12 |
| faenil | alterego, actually all the people I talked to have | 22:13 |
| faenil | all reported nemo as "slow as hell" | 22:13 |
| Venemo | see? | 22:13 |
| Venemo | this is typically a detail which matters to end users | 22:14 |
| alterego | On the N900 with a class 4 SD? :P | 22:14 |
| Venemo | on the N950 | 22:14 |
| Venemo | on the internal EMMC | 22:14 |
| alterego | Venemo: I'm asking faenil if he's heard complaints outside of the N900 | 22:14 |
| faenil | alterego, internal EMMC | 22:14 |
| faenil | alterego, eh I'm not 100% sure now | 22:14 |
| alterego | faenil: which is about as fast as a C4 SD | 22:14 |
| faenil | alterego, but I think they weren't n900 users | 22:15 |
| faenil | n950 or n9 | 22:15 |
| Venemo | I'm also officially declaring it "slow as hell" now | 22:15 |
| alterego | If you're going to judge a phone on the first <5 minutes of flashing a new firmware you're an idiot :P | 22:15 |
| Venemo | thanks. | 22:15 |
| faenil | alterego, world is full of idiots, we have to take them into account :D | 22:16 |
| alterego | I witnessed the same with Fremantle on N900 and Harmattan on N950 :) | 22:16 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6008 Rejected promotion request | 22:16 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6007 Rejected promotion request | 22:16 |
| Venemo | the fact that _they_ are doing it wrong doesn't imply that _we_ should do it wrong too | 22:16 |
| Venemo | as I said, not even a lock screen appears now. | 22:16 |
| Venemo | if I were an unsuspecting user, I would panic | 22:16 |
| alterego | Venemo: anyway, we've discussed doing pre-tracker caching before, and the idea got thrown out every time it was mentioned. Don't know why. | 22:16 |
| Venemo | ok | 22:17 |
| Venemo | fyi, neither harmattan nor fremantle was this sluggish on firstboot | 22:18 |
| alterego | Well, as soon as we get a first-boot wizard I guess no one will notice :P | 22:18 |
| Venemo | ok, it's been ~10 minutes now. | 22:19 |
| Venemo | how much longer should I expect it to be nuts? | 22:19 |
| alterego | dunno, probably another 10 :) | 22:19 |
| Venemo | lol | 22:19 |
| alterego | At this point I usually make a cup of tea and have lunch, | 22:19 |
| alterego | lol | 22:19 |
| Venemo | lol | 22:19 |
| Venemo | I want to be sleeping soonish, so cup of tea is a bad idea right now | 22:20 |
| faenil | good night people :) cya tomorrow :) | 22:20 |
| Venemo | good night faenil :) | 22:21 |
| alterego | Yeah, me too. | 22:21 |
| Venemo | good night to you too alterego :) | 22:27 |
| alterego | g'night :) | 22:27 |
| Venemo | I'll go to sleep too. hoping the N950 will come to its senses eventually | 22:27 |
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| w00t | Venemo: "lockscreen not displaying" is broken, not slow | 22:31 |
| w00t | also, I haven't noticed any significant usability issues after reflash, mostly because we don't preinstall any content for tracker to index anymore seemingly | 22:31 |
| Venemo | hm | 22:33 |
| Venemo | then what? did I do something wrong? | 22:33 |
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| Venemo | w00t, nevermind, it seems to be OK after a reboot | 22:37 |
| w00t | I don't know, but you should never end up at a black screen | 22:39 |
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| Venemo_N950 | we are in desperate need of a better input method plugin | 22:42 |
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| Venemo | I see we also have a new terminal | 22:44 |
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| Venemo | anyway, I'm falling asleep now | 22:56 |
| Venemo | have a nice evening everyone :) | 22:56 |
| Venemo | w00t, I got the code, tomorrow I'll give it some more polish and push it. | 22:56 |
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