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sledges | same with 0.20120517.1.NEMO.2012-05-21.1 | 00:06 |
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sledges | probably it's moslo not friends with my N9, as even booting orig kernel from moslo ends up with only one extra LED flash and then shutdown; just can't handle kexec seemingly | 00:08 |
sledges | ok, time to zleep :) | 00:08 |
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special | Sage: did you update any telepathy-related packages at all recently? | 06:10 |
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iekku | morning | 06:17 |
Xruxa | who says all the work does not get done on weekends :) | 06:18 |
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special | okay, that was a really annoying bug | 06:19 |
iekku | the one who doesn't have passion/opportunity do to work during weekend | 06:19 |
special | apparently mission-control was crashing because I had a telepathy-ring account configured and didn't have telepathy-ring installed. | 06:19 |
* special sighs | 06:20 | |
Sage | special: haven't looked those much recently | 06:44 |
Sage | special: I will merge the stuff to nemo when glib updates comes to mer. | 06:44 |
Sage | special: have you tried telepathy-ring with ofono 1.8+ if that works or not? | 06:45 |
special | Sage: not really. I've been avoiding it due to the glib issue | 06:47 |
special | I did try it briefly, but ofonod wasn't functional at the time | 06:48 |
Sage | well it probably isn't funcitonal now either for n950 at least. For n900 it worked for me. Also one could use phonesim to test. | 06:48 |
special | I could try it with phonesim next weekish | 06:51 |
special | it'd be good to keep moving forward on replacing SMS | 06:52 |
Sage | yes that is something that would be very nice to see. | 06:53 |
the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5863 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5863 | 06:53 |
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krans | sledges, I was able to boot Harmattan as well | 07:22 |
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the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5863 Accepted promotion request | 07:40 |
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t-lo | Good morning everybody. | 08:20 |
iekku | good morning | 08:20 |
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faenil | morning :) | 08:51 |
t-lo | Morning faenil. | 08:53 |
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faenil | hi t-lo :) | 08:59 |
sledges | krans: I booed Nemo after random struggle: tried various nemo kernels directly with flasher, no luck, afterwards copied /lib/modules of latest kkernel, and it booted from within moslo with older kernel than the modules copied, so an irrelevant cp but Nemo boots now, how weird! | 09:03 |
krans | sledges, haah ok | 09:05 |
sledges | even zypper ref & up worked! but my poer button does not physically spoweroff, same like in a VM virtual box, more info NEMO#74 :) | 09:07 |
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sledges | have a good morning everyone! | 09:09 |
t-lo | @Sledges: good morning! | 09:11 |
faenil | good morning sledges :) | 09:11 |
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t-lo | Hey, I finally managed to build a nemo i586 VM image. | 12:44 |
t-lo | It's kind of a challenge to make any use of it, though. | 12:44 |
t-lo | Since kvm does not provide hardware accelerated video my virtual screen would turn black upon opening an application. Any application. | 12:45 |
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t-lo | Any thoughts on this? | 12:46 |
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Stskeeps | ah, thats not the cause | 12:53 |
Stskeeps | the mesa llvmpipe/egl backend doesnt do tfp in ximage backend | 12:54 |
Stskeeps | even though GLX does | 12:54 |
t-lo | Okay. | 12:55 |
t-lo | My best shot at getting a console (that's what I'm actually after, sorry for being imprecise) would be not to start graphical.target, then? | 12:56 |
t-lo | On a completely different note: is there a committer / a group of committers specifically dedicated to systemd in Nemo? | 12:58 |
t-lo | I'm asking because there are some minor weirdnesses with Nemo's systemd configuration. | 12:58 |
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t-lo | Hehe, I thought so. | 13:02 |
Stskeeps | ctrl alt f2 | 13:11 |
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t-lo | @Stskeeps -vv | 13:25 |
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Stskeeps | hmm? | 13:32 |
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Stskeeps | t-lo: systemd is mostly mer side | 13:36 |
t-lo | @Stskeeps: okay. | 13:37 |
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tomx_ | hi | 19:34 |
Stskeeps | heya | 19:34 |
tomx_ | I have a question about n950s' bootloader | 19:36 |
krans | w00t, how to install nemo-qml-plugins on device ? | 19:37 |
w00t | should be a straight "zypper install" job, provided your image is fairly up to date | 19:37 |
w00t | or do you mean from source? | 19:37 |
krans | w00t, yeah i mean from source | 19:37 |
w00t | ok, i presume you're working on n9/n950? | 19:38 |
krans | w00t, i have source on my local yeah am working on N9 i have nemo running | 19:38 |
w00t | ok | 19:38 |
w00t | easiest way i'd say would be to install the mer SDK - it's basically a chroot and gets you tools which you may be familiar with: osc, and things like that | 19:39 |
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w00t | then you can branch the package, chuck the patches you need in, do a local build, scp the rpms over and install fairly easily | 19:39 |
w00t | (yes, it's a bit awkward, afaik there is some ongoing work on on making at least the packaging side of this less annoying) | 19:39 |
w00t | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK and https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_and_SB2 are good references for SDK-related things | 19:40 |
w00t | *but* | 19:40 |
krans | w00t, ok i'll try that | 19:41 |
w00t | nemo-qml-plugins has also been designed to build (and ideally run in most cases) fairly well on desktop | 19:41 |
w00t | e.g. I have QtMobility built on OS X, nemo-qml-plugins and qt-components built there, so I just run qmlcontacts on my mac most of the time | 19:41 |
krans | w00t, I also want to do the same | 19:41 |
w00t | that should be fairly straightforward qmake/make/make install | 19:41 |
krans | w00t, so you use desktop builds ? | 19:42 |
w00t | I do, yes | 19:42 |
w00t | not everyone, unfortunately ;) | 19:42 |
w00t | but I'm hoping to convince them to see the light | 19:42 |
w00t | as it makes development cycles a lot faster | 19:42 |
Venemo_N9 | sometimes | 19:42 |
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krans | w00t, I agree too | 19:43 |
tomx_ | Is it possible to brick n950 by flashing wrong firmware? | 19:43 |
tomx_ | or it is like n900? | 19:43 |
Venemo_N9 | everything is possible, you just have to try hard enough | 19:43 |
tomx_ | I don't intend to :) | 19:44 |
w00t | krans: pushed a 'desktop' branch to qmlcontacts (there are a few small hacks needed in QML there to get rid of the dialer, as the it sadly falls into the basket of stuff that does not yet run on desktop) | 19:45 |
w00t | but the rest should pretty much just work | 19:45 |
Venemo_N9 | maybe it's easier to brick it with an axe | 19:45 |
krans | w00t, ok I'll try that | 19:45 |
* w00t heads off to watch a film, but I might periodically check in here, so if you need help, just ask | 19:45 | |
krans | w00t, enjoy | 19:46 |
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tomx_ | I've read about problems with downgrading on N9, do that problems also exist on N950? | 19:53 |
Venemo_N9 | tomx_, what issues do you mean? | 19:55 |
lbt | krans: nb - please tell me if you have SDK problems | 19:56 |
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krans | lbt, sure | 19:57 |
lbt | ty | 19:58 |
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tomx | Venomo_N9 : http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=83350 | 20:03 |
Venemo_N9 | tomx, you can not downgrade harmattan releases, that is true | 20:06 |
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tomx | How about moslo? Is it a second or first stage bootloader? Also, if I flash my N950 with moslo, can I then flash with any Harmattan version? | 20:13 |
Venemo_N9 | you can restore harmattan | 20:15 |
tomx | Any version? | 20:16 |
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Venemo_N9 | the latest, I guess | 20:32 |
Venemo_N9 | hm | 20:32 |
Venemo_N9 | after update, my Nemo installation is bricked | 20:32 |
Venemo_N9 | meh | 20:33 |
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w00t | Venemo_: run zypper up in screen.. you'll lose both X and networking.. wait 15-20 minutes after that, then reboot it with power button | 20:42 |
w00t | and yes, definitely not ideal | 20:42 |
w00t | thankfully i think Stskeeps is looking at getting rid of uxlaunch which should help resolve one problem of display going away during update.. | 20:42 |
Venemo_ | w00t: that I did. but it does not start after reboot | 20:44 |
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w00t | sure you left it long enough? i underestimated once | 20:45 |
Venemo | I turned it off when I noticed that it has a non-responsive blank screen. not sure if that was enough :P | 20:48 |
Venemo | no problem though, I'll just reflash it with the latest image | 20:48 |
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w00t | no, you need to wait the 15-20 minutes after it goes blank | 20:56 |
Venemo | ok | 20:56 |
Venemo | then it wasn't enough | 20:56 |
Venemo | would have been nice to at least show some "please wait" message | 20:57 |
w00t | the bug there is that it killed the whole UI session, there's nowhere to display a "please wait" | 20:58 |
Venemo | ah. | 20:59 |
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sledges | what a day! time to zleep :) | 23:13 |
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