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| w00t | Elleo: cool | 00:29 |
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| Elleo | :) | 00:31 |
| Elleo | its not compiling against meegotouch at the moment, so doesn't behave quite right | 00:31 |
| Elleo | but I'm focusing on trying to get pyside compiled first so I get the launcher running | 00:31 |
| ZogG_lap1op | anyone familiar with udevd [374] unable to receive ctrl connection : function not implented | 00:32 |
| ZogG_lap1op | error? | 00:32 |
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| Elleo | got pyside working under nemo :) | 02:23 |
| Elleo | now I can go to sleep :) | 02:23 |
| phaeron | cool | 02:35 |
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| rantom | Morning | 05:39 |
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| Sage_ | marquiz_: the moslo you were using where is its upstream? | 07:33 |
| Sage_ | I could only find https://gitorious.org/meego-developer-edition-for-n900/moslo but it wasn't the one you modified | 07:40 |
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| rantom | Sage_: I think it's this: | 08:03 |
| rantom | http://repo.pub.meego.com/home:/marquiz:/n950/CE_Adaptation_N950-armv7hl/armv7hl/ | 08:03 |
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| Sage_ | rantom: yes, but where is the upstream git? :) | 08:03 |
| rantom | Got it from here: http://wiki.meego.com/User:Marquiz/N950 | 08:03 |
| rantom | Ah, git | 08:03 |
| rantom | Missed that, sorry. No idea | 08:03 |
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| Sage_ | I took .config file from local fs during kernel build and it is completely different than N900 kernel | 08:13 |
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| w00t | Sage_: remember when I said that connman was fine and stable for me? I cursed myself. | 08:35 |
| rantom | Isn't that the norm? | 08:36 |
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| alterego | w00t: venemo was having issues with that and so have I | 09:01 |
| alterego | venemo had hidden AP with WPA2, my AP has WPA2 and it the wifi applet stopped allowing me to select that AP :/ | 09:01 |
| alterego | I think vememo had an error, can't remember what it was though | 09:02 |
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| alterego | Okay, so what we need is theme/basement/meegotouch-button theme images to be complete .. | 09:43 |
| alterego | Hmm, well, maybe I should look into the themeing process a bit better O_O | 09:50 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: can you do image with http://pastie.org/4314348 and see if that boots? | 09:53 |
| Sage_ | my microsd card seems to be broken or something and I don't have a spare :/ | 09:54 |
| Sage_ | or well I should have one but can't find it :P | 09:54 |
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| Sage_ | ah, my host kernel has problems with the sdcard reader | 09:57 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage_: buildin' | 10:02 |
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| Sage_ | ok, so changed to older kernel for f17 and sdcard writing works again | 10:09 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: doesn't seem to work :/ | 10:14 |
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| * Sage_ tries n950 just for fun | 10:14 | |
| Stskeeps | could you make a kernel with console=tty0 removed? | 10:14 |
| Sage_ | building in my branch | 10:17 |
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| w00t | Sage_: do you have time to try something for me? | 10:53 |
| w00t | or anyone else too | 10:53 |
| Sage_ | w00t: yes, but I don't have device that boots atm :) | 10:54 |
| w00t | hmph | 10:54 |
| w00t | let me know when you do :) | 10:54 |
| w00t | oh, wait | 10:54 |
| w00t | you gave it away for now? | 10:54 |
| Sage_ | nah, put non booting image to my n950 about 10mins ago :D | 10:54 |
| w00t | ok, well, if you fix it let me know ;) | 10:54 |
| w00t | need a guinea pig to try new qmlgallery/qmlcontacts and especially see if the new avatar picker works :) | 10:55 |
| Sage_ | ok | 10:55 |
| Sage_ | I'll get back to you at some point | 10:55 |
| w00t | k | 10:55 |
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| w00t | Sage_: we should probably talk contextkit/bme at some point too. | 11:08 |
| Sage_ | w00t: sure | 11:10 |
| w00t | Sage_: libopenbme.. where do we put it? and where do we build the contextkit plugin? ;) | 11:11 |
| w00t | right now I've been working against Project:MTF:UX primarily for convenience (i branched contextkit-maemo-mce) | 11:12 |
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| rcg | w00t: i am wonko at tmo ;) | 11:29 |
| w00t | rcg: oh! :) | 11:29 |
| rcg | sorry bout the nickname confusion :) | 11:29 |
| w00t | np, just too many names.. | 11:29 |
| w00t | so when's the next calendar release? :-D | 11:29 |
| rcg | w00t: currently, i don't have much time.. unfortunately | 11:30 |
| rcg | you can always get the latest version from my private repo if you like to test | 11:30 |
| w00t | on OBS? | 11:31 |
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| Sage_ | w00t: well, I think Project:MTF:UX is ok place for now if nothing else deps on it | 11:31 |
| pdanek | openSUSE contains yum? | 11:31 |
| pdanek | thought only zypper is there | 11:32 |
| w00t | Sage_: are you also ok with my modifying contextkit-maemo-mce to build the battery plugin (instead of making yet another copy of that repo)? | 11:32 |
| rcg | w00t: yes.. let me get the url | 11:32 |
| Sage_ | w00t: hmmp... it must be at least different subpackage | 11:33 |
| w00t | rcg: if you've tagged a release in git, I'm happy to update it for you in OBS if you don't have time | 11:33 |
| w00t | Sage_: that I agree with | 11:33 |
| w00t | we won't want this plugin on e.g. n900 or x86 | 11:33 |
| rcg | w00t: http://repo.pub.meego.com/home:/wonko/CE_MW_MTF_CE_MW_Shared_armv7hl/home%3awonko.repo | 11:33 |
| pdanek | because: | 11:33 |
| pdanek | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing | 11:33 |
| pdanek | "For Fedora/openSUSE following command was needed: | 11:33 |
| pdanek | yum install perl-LWP-Protocol-https perl-SOAP-Lite" | 11:33 |
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| rcg | w00t: i had to fix a bug in mkcal for the latest version of qmlcalendar to work correctly. | 11:36 |
| rcg | back then i also submitted the patch via gerrit | 11:36 |
| w00t | rcg: -nod-, I'm just focusing on the application | 11:36 |
| rcg | but then i kinda lost track due to much work and other things happening here | 11:36 |
| rcg | might, pick up the work again today or tomorrow and see if i can file a SR | 11:37 |
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| w00t | cool | 11:37 |
| rcg | i think the version as is in my repo should be fine for a SR.. even though there is still very much stuff missing it should be quite an improvement over the version currently shipping | 11:38 |
| w00t | yeah.. incremental improvement, anyway - missing stuff doesn't matter so long as it gradually improves ;) | 11:39 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5278 Rejected promotion request | 11:53 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5280 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5280 | 11:58 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5279 Rejected promotion request | 11:58 |
| w00t | rcg: Jun, not June I guess | 12:00 |
| rcg | yep | 12:00 |
| rcg | before that i had the completely wrong day of week xD | 12:01 |
| rcg | w00t: as i told you.. is quite some time ago i touched that package o_O | 12:01 |
| phaeron | rcg: also upgrade your spectacle | 12:01 |
| phaeron | rcg: and don't include .git in the tarball :) | 12:02 |
| rcg | phaeron: ah right | 12:02 |
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| w00t | you should ideally be using 'git tag' and 'git archive' | 12:02 |
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| rcg | phaeron: yeah.. that tarball is quite old.. just started fiddling with it | 12:02 |
| rcg | w00t: hmm.. i see.. am still learning git | 12:03 |
| phaeron | maybe lbt can show his git to src stuff | 12:03 |
| lbt | mmm sure | 12:03 |
| phaeron | if you want | 12:04 |
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| rcg | that's the thing when you want to do something "quickly" suddenly lots of other issues pop up :) | 12:04 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5281 Rejected promotion request | 12:04 |
| Sage_ | g 12 | 12:04 |
| lbt | rcg: oh yes | 12:04 |
| lbt | if you're in a hurry it's not ready yet | 12:05 |
| rcg | lbt: well.. i am not in a hurry.. but i just wanted to push that fella | 12:08 |
| lbt | https://github.com/lbt/git-pkg | 12:08 |
| lbt | so I'll be fixing that up 'soon' | 12:08 |
| rcg | was working on this quite extensively some weeks ago.. then my daily work had priority so things got stuck | 12:08 |
| rcg | now i am picking work up again and am confronted with the mess i left behind some weeks ago ;) | 12:09 |
| * rcg keeps fingers crossed for this time | 12:16 | |
| rcg | update spectacle, removed .git, changes file should be correct | 12:18 |
| rcg | i'll see what boss has to tell | 12:18 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5282 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5282 | 12:20 |
| rcg | hmm looks good so far | 12:23 |
| rcg | btw thanks for that link lbt :) | 12:23 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5280 Accepted promotion request | 12:25 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5282 Accepted promotion request | 12:26 |
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| Elleo | should I be submitting my nemo pyside packages to a more central repository? if so what's the procedure and which repository is most appropriate? | 12:55 |
| rzr | Elleo: obs ? | 12:57 |
| Elleo | rzr: yeah, they're built on obs | 12:57 |
| w00t | lbt: so eventually™, it'll be a case of, tag version, and tell obs to go grab that version from git? | 12:57 |
| Elleo | I mean should they being submitted to one of the CE:* repositories | 12:57 |
| Elleo | s/being/be/ | 12:57 |
| rzr | I pushed redak to CE::* , waiting for sage to review it ... i guess this is the official process | 12:57 |
| Elleo | for redak I guess that would have been CE:Apps? but for pyside should it be that or somewhere like CE:MW:Shared? | 13:00 |
| Elleo | nothing needs to compile against, but it's not an app as such; just a dependency for a lot of apps | 13:00 |
| Stskeeps | Elleo: ask sage where to send it :) | 13:01 |
| rzr | Elleo: yes its in CE:Apps | 13:01 |
| Elleo | Sage_: ^ where should I be sending my python-pyside packages? (assuming I should be submitting them at all) | 13:01 |
| rzr | but IICR i think sage talked about setting up a code review workflow ... i guess its time is missing | 13:02 |
| lbt | w00t: yes - it ties in to the work phaeron's already done there too | 13:03 |
| lbt | IMHO it's more complex than tag+build though | 13:03 |
| lbt | I think tags are a release-y | 13:04 |
| lbt | and we need to support iteration too | 13:04 |
| w00t | how do you mean? | 13:04 |
| Sage_ | rzr: comments to redak. Drop most (if not all) of the # lines, remove comment from rm -rf %{buildroot} in %install one should have that | 13:05 |
| lbt | w00t: so as a developer I want to build without tagging | 13:06 |
| w00t | lbt: I agree | 13:06 |
| w00t | though I think that more applies for local builds | 13:06 |
| lbt | it does apply there for sure | 13:07 |
| w00t | BTW, that would remove my current pain point :) | 13:07 |
| w00t | right now, I sit with two terminals open | 13:07 |
| lbt | but I would also like to run a sanely identified version of my package through automated testing | 13:07 |
| w00t | one with vim, creating patches, format-patch, dumping them into an osc checkout, and the other for editing them into the .yaml, running specify, and osc build ;) | 13:08 |
| lbt | you need to help me on git-pkg btw | 13:08 |
| lbt | it may also be that I'm wrong about tagging - maybe we should tag with wild abandon :) | 13:09 |
| w00t | anyway, I think that automated testing could be fairly safely done at any point, but I wouldn't want to allow untagged code into a release, I think | 13:09 |
| lbt | for sure | 13:09 |
| w00t | tagging is nice in that it provides a nice, human-readable identifier that says "this code comes from this version" which can also tell you by convention which release branch it came from, what date, whatever | 13:09 |
| w00t | shas give you that information, but not quite so easily | 13:10 |
| lbt | sha has the nasty property of not-sortable | 13:10 |
| w00t | yeah | 13:10 |
| lbt | I think we need a counter/sha pairing | 13:10 |
| w00t | git-describe style? | 13:10 |
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| lbt | mmm - not used that - interesting | 13:12 |
| w00t | :) | 13:12 |
| lbt | wondering about forced pushes | 13:13 |
| w00t | how so? | 13:13 |
| lbt | personally I like a tidy master with nice clean logical commits | 13:13 |
| w00t | (apart from them being evil) | 13:13 |
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| lbt | so in topic branches I'm OK with squash+rebase to get a clean history when they're finally pulled onto master | 13:14 |
| lbt | I also prefer not to see merges | 13:14 |
| lbt | so rebase is often needed before push to master | 13:15 |
| w00t | more or less agreed.. although merges will be required if we're diverting from an upstream, unless we want to rebase.. which will work too, but be very painful with more than one person working on a package | 13:15 |
| rcg | could someone else have a look at http://review.merproject.org/#change,636 | 13:15 |
| rcg | just noticed that this is still open | 13:16 |
| rcg | without the new mkcal version the new qmlcalendar version cannot be installed | 13:16 |
| lbt | w00t: I think the approach can be different for different packages | 13:16 |
| lbt | sometimes it's more important to support different people being able to hack quickly | 13:17 |
| lbt | ie for upstream with a light touch | 13:17 |
| w00t | true | 13:17 |
| lbt | for others we'll have a deep knowledge in a smaller team | 13:18 |
| lbt | so I'd suggest for the latter - do what makes sense | 13:18 |
| lbt | for the former - lets keep some consistency | 13:18 |
| lbt | by definition they should rarely get concurrent development | 13:18 |
| w00t | yeah | 13:19 |
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| lbt | so that all measns that git-describe may not work | 13:20 |
| lbt | since I may tidy up the commit with a squash | 13:20 |
| lbt | I think it's like the packaging Release: tag | 13:21 |
| lbt | I'd rather it was discrete and managed rather than implicit like <CI> and <BI> | 13:21 |
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| alterego | w00t: can we add rounded corners to mcompositor for windows in the switcher? | 13:44 |
| w00t | mm | 13:44 |
| w00t | maybe, I don't know | 13:44 |
| w00t | it's been a long time since I looked at the homescreen stuff | 13:44 |
| alterego | Just a little detail that's bugging me ;) I'm pretty sure the xshape stuff can handle that kind of mask | 13:45 |
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| alterego | ls | 13:52 |
| alterego | oops | 13:52 |
| alterego | Where are the quick launcher settings stored? | 13:53 |
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| Sage_ | rcg: Error <creator>: Failed to build transaction : qmlcalendar-0.15-1.1.Nemo.Apps.armv7hl requires mkcal >= 0.3.11-2 | 14:03 |
| Sage_ | my bad as I accepted it but we can't do -<REL> deps | 14:03 |
| rcg | Sage_: oh, i see | 14:03 |
| rcg | what to do about this? | 14:03 |
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| rcg | will it suffice if i just use 0.3.11 as dependency? | 14:04 |
| rcg | i could just change that and re-submit | 14:04 |
| Sage_ | well, that accepts any 0.3.11 version | 14:05 |
| Sage_ | but you can't define -REL as it is automatically selected by OBS | 14:05 |
| Sage_ | so any that kind of change needs to have real version change :/ | 14:05 |
| rcg | hmm.. i see | 14:05 |
| rcg | reason why i used -2 was that the patched mkcal is just "our" version and not changed upstream | 14:06 |
| rcg | i could try and see what happens if the new qmlcalendar is used with the unpatched mkcal version | 14:07 |
| rcg | worst case is that it doesn't start, best case that storing new tasks does not work | 14:07 |
| Sage_ | anyway that prevents image builds thus it needs to be removed | 14:08 |
| rcg | right | 14:08 |
| Sage_ | lbt: Again the versioning thingy ;) | 14:08 |
| rcg | i can just re-submit 0.15 without the -REL dependency if that helps | 14:08 |
| Sage_ | yes that helps | 14:08 |
| rcg | just submitted the changes | 14:10 |
| rcg | and it's best case | 14:11 |
| rcg | qmlcalendar runs "just" storing new tasks is broken | 14:12 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5283 Rejected promotion request | 14:12 |
| rcg | hmm.. the-boss is sometimes pretty picky... | 14:14 |
| rcg | will bump version to quick fix this | 14:14 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5284 Rejected promotion request | 14:18 |
| rcg | well, shouldn't do such things in such a hurry and state of mind.. | 14:19 |
| rcg | fixing | 14:19 |
| lbt | Sage_: I asked about the versioning thingy in the release meeting ... just to judge if there's much pressure | 14:21 |
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| faenil | uo o/ | 14:22 |
| faenil | yo o/ | 14:22 |
| rcg | hey faenil | 14:22 |
| faenil | hey! :D | 14:22 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5285 Rejected promotion request | 14:22 |
| rcg | god dammit am i stupid right now :/ | 14:23 |
| lbt | rcg: join the d'oh club :) | 14:26 |
| rcg | lbt: :) | 14:27 |
| phaeron | lbt: nice icon for boss: the annoying boy in simpsons who pointed and laughed "ha ha" | 14:33 |
| lbt | Nelson *g* | 14:33 |
| rcg | phaeron: lol | 14:33 |
| rcg | for rejected requests, i assume | 14:33 |
| phaeron | yeah , specially : missing hyphen in changelog : haha | 14:34 |
| phaeron | missing empty line : ha ha | 14:34 |
| phaeron | :D | 14:34 |
| rcg | lol | 14:35 |
| rcg | hmm.. it takes longer. seems like it is actually building and not failing in the early pre-checks. | 14:39 |
| rcg | lets see what it will complain about next ;) | 14:39 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5286 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5286 | 14:43 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5287 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5287 | 14:43 |
| rcg | ah :) | 14:43 |
| rcg | Sage_: SR#5286 is the new qmlcalendar version with the "fixed" dependency | 14:44 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5288 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5288 | 14:53 |
| faenil | w00t, and what's your workflow with nemo apps? | 14:54 |
| faenil | I used to build the gallery for harmattan... | 14:54 |
| w00t | osc build -> deploy (and rpm -U), or hack the QML directly on device | 14:54 |
| rcg | bbl | 14:55 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5289 Rejected promotion request | 14:55 |
| w00t | faenil: it's possible to bring deployment back without it being such a pain in the ass, I think, but especially with it providing an import for reuse, that might be hard | 14:55 |
| * w00t curses the-boss | 14:55 | |
| faenil | ok so I just have to keep a separate harmattan project, and only copy qml files back... | 14:56 |
| w00t | did someone update spectacle? | 14:56 |
| w00t | faenil: that's one approach, I guess... if you can come up with a way that can keep things easily installable on both, I'm all for it | 14:57 |
| w00t | I couldn't | 14:57 |
| w00t | the deployment stuff isn't very well designed for multiple installations | 14:57 |
| faenil | I see... | 14:57 |
| faenil | well no problem, just wanted to know if there was any easy way I was not considering ;) | 14:57 |
| w00t | it may be that I'm the one missing something, so do have a tinker | 14:58 |
| faenil | :) | 14:59 |
| w00t | phaeron: what's up with https://build.pub.meego.com/request/show/5289 ? | 14:59 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5288 Accepted promotion request | 15:00 |
| w00t | Sage_: ^? | 15:00 |
| rzr | Sage_: ok thx will do | 15:02 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5286 Accepted promotion request | 15:02 |
| Sage_ | w00t: umm... did you run spectacle? | 15:02 |
| w00t | http://qtl.me/eR4.txt | 15:03 |
| Sage_ | w00t: tar tf tarball output plz | 15:03 |
| w00t | http://qtl.me/VNH.txt | 15:04 |
| faenil | I don't understand this very much https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=238 | 15:04 |
| w00t | faenil: what don't you understand? | 15:04 |
| faenil | we can't open all image files, so why should we show them | 15:04 |
| Sage_ | w00t: ok, so your spectacle works properly. I wonder what is wrong with boss then | 15:05 |
| w00t | faenil: I'm pretty sure that Qt can *at least* open PNG (plus a bunch of other formats) :) | 15:05 |
| special | faenil: it could open anything Qt can, though in practice it's probably only png and jpeg that matter | 15:05 |
| Sage_ | w00t: try to resent | 15:05 |
| faenil | w00t, but still, that means using a list of extensions | 15:05 |
| w00t | Sage_: in a way, it's good, i found a missing bit from packaging ;) | 15:05 |
| w00t | faenil: yes, that's usually the way these things work | 15:06 |
| special | extensions are okay, *but* it's case-sensitive at the moment, and that is a problem. | 15:06 |
| faenil | w00t, yeah that's what I though, the "ideally without using a list of extensions" made me wonder | 15:06 |
| faenil | special, yeah, that is a problem | 15:06 |
| special | I didn't see any way to make those filters case insensitive from a quick glance | 15:07 |
| special | we could always add filters for *.jpg *.Jpg *.JPg *.JPG *.jPg *.jpG *.jPG, though! | 15:07 |
| faenil | well yeah, let's try to avoid that for the moment :) | 15:08 |
| w00t | i'm pretty sure i used to work with people who came up with solutions like that | 15:08 |
| w00t | :P | 15:09 |
| faenil | :D | 15:10 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5290 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5290 | 15:15 |
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| faenil | special, it seems the sensitivity is hardcoded...the filter is created with the default value which is CaseSentivite | 15:34 |
| faenil | CaseSensitive | 15:34 |
| w00t | we can patch that | 15:36 |
| special | faenil: could we filter based on the item type, rather than filename? | 15:37 |
| w00t | we can, actually | 15:37 |
| special | http://doc.qt.nokia.com/qtmobility/qml-documentgallerytype.html#itemType-prop | 15:37 |
| w00t | http://doc.qt.nokia.com/qtmobility/qml-documentgallerymodel.html#rootType-prop | 15:37 |
| special | anything tracker considers an image should be suitable, no? | 15:37 |
| w00t | I'd just try with rootType set to DocumentGallery.Image | 15:38 |
| w00t | (no filter) | 15:38 |
| faenil | much better with rootType :D | 15:39 |
| w00t | appears to load images ok.. | 15:39 |
| faenil | was looking for something like that | 15:39 |
| w00t | and PNGs are loaded too | 15:39 |
| w00t | so I guess we have a solution? ;) | 15:39 |
| faenil | yes :) | 15:39 |
| faenil | though I still want to understand if you can't change the casesensitivity...that's dumb | 15:40 |
| w00t | there's a lot of things about mobility that are, ehem, not optimal | 15:40 |
| faenil | but I'm getting lost in the object hierarchy, lol | 15:40 |
| faenil | w00t, eh :D | 15:40 |
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| faenil | and I hate when it ends in private classes... | 15:41 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5290 Accepted promotion request | 15:42 |
| w00t | if you're inside Qt, it almost always does ;) | 15:42 |
| w00t | Sage_: \o/ | 15:42 |
| w00t | ty | 15:42 |
| faenil | unfortuantely, yes... xD | 15:42 |
| w00t | Sage_: had a chance to try it out yet? :) | 15:42 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: http://pastie.org/4317340 next .ks to try | 15:43 |
| Sage_ | w00t: sure, I'm currently dreaming about it. "Looks" nice. ;) | 15:44 |
| w00t | Oo | 15:44 |
| * Sage_ puts new image to his n950 | 15:46 | |
| Sage_ | new as in not broken one ;) | 15:46 |
| w00t | ah.. | 15:46 |
| w00t | :P | 15:46 |
| w00t | sorry ^^ | 15:46 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5291 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5291 | 15:46 |
| faenil | w00t, when will we get the battery fix? :D | 15:46 |
| w00t | faenil: not sure, i don't have time to deal with it right now, but i've at least discussed the where/how, so it's a matter of working on submitting it | 15:47 |
| faenil | ok :P | 15:47 |
| ZogG_laptop | Sage_: oh, you can use %post twice in .ks ? i didn't know | 15:48 |
| faenil | w00t, anyway, imho we'll never get anywhere with the current setup...I mean nemo requires a lot of work, too few people working on it :( | 15:48 |
| w00t | faenil: I think we'll manage to get somewhere | 15:49 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5292 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5292 | 15:49 |
| w00t | I wouldn't be working on this now (and in the past) if I had no confidence of that | 15:49 |
| faenil | w00t, we would need 20 w00ts working costantly on it to get a decent UI in reasonable time :D | 15:50 |
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| special | you can do quite a bit with a small group of motivated people | 15:50 |
| w00t | faenil: have you tried out qmlcontacts yet? i'd say that shows what just a few people can do with some time well spent.. and hopefully alterego will get his dialer work into submittable state soon too :) | 15:50 |
| faenil | special, yes but still, people need time :D | 15:51 |
| faenil | spare time, to work on it :) | 15:51 |
| special | spare time is a problem | 15:51 |
| * special is at the other job right now | 15:51 | |
| faenil | w00t, switching n950 on to check it out, don't remember it atm :) | 15:51 |
| w00t | faenil: first submission only went in uhh.. a few days ago or so | 15:52 |
| w00t | new version just now :) | 15:52 |
| faenil | oh, so I have to "zypper"? :) | 15:52 |
| w00t | yeah, you'll need to | 15:53 |
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| faenil | ok ;) | 15:53 |
| faenil | what was that :O | 15:53 |
| w00t | hmm? | 15:53 |
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| faenil | a red "Hello World" string appearing when opening wifi panel | 15:53 |
| faenil | xD | 15:53 |
| faenil | now I only see that hello world... | 15:54 |
| faenil | mmm | 15:54 |
| iekku | faenil, still? | 15:54 |
| iekku | faenil, what image you are using? | 15:55 |
| faenil | iekku, I have a fresh 02/07/2012 image... | 15:55 |
| w00t | that got fixed like, a week or two ago afaik | 15:55 |
| iekku | :nod: | 15:55 |
| faenil | oh ok, but I can't use zypper if it doesn't let me connect :D | 15:55 |
| w00t | I guess you'll need to systemctl restart connman.service for now (maybe) | 15:55 |
| w00t | I don't remember how I worked around that | 15:55 |
| faenil | it seems closing and reopening settings panel got it fixed | 15:56 |
| iekku | good | 15:56 |
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| faenil | mmm still retrieving repository... | 16:05 |
| faenil | I didn't remember it taking more than 5 minutes... | 16:07 |
| Sage_ | w00t: nice work :) | 16:09 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: hmmp... x86 adaptation has IPV6 =y where n900/n950 has =m ... maybe... | 16:13 |
| Elleo | is there an easy way of increasing the delay before nemo pops up the "$x is not responding, do you want to kill it?" message | 16:16 |
| faenil | zypper connection failed, again...argh | 16:19 |
| faenil | repository ce-apps is invalid...mmm | 16:19 |
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| Sage_ | Elleo: yes, there is config option. Let me find the file | 16:21 |
| Elleo | awesome, thanks | 16:21 |
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| faenil | is there a problem with the repositories, w00t ? | 16:22 |
| faenil | my zypper doesn't want to cooperate | 16:22 |
| faenil | Sage_, ^ | 16:26 |
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| Sage_ | faenil: what error you get? | 16:36 |
| faenil | couldn't connect to host | 16:36 |
| Sage_ | faenil: probalby just connection down | 16:36 |
| faenil | yours? | 16:36 |
| faenil | mine is working, browser surfs normally | 16:37 |
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| faenil | :( | 16:39 |
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| rcg | Sage_: is the "fixed" qmlcalendar package ok for you the way it is now? | 16:43 |
| faenil | could it be a problem with zypper and ipv6? | 16:43 |
| Sage_ | faenil: we haven't done ipv6 testing so anything can be wrong with ipv6 | 16:43 |
| faenil | Sage_, I haven't asked for ipv6 myself, but that's the only thing I can find on google when looking for that error with zipper... | 16:44 |
| faenil | the connection is working... | 16:44 |
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| mike7b4 | anyone tested nemoimage 07 | 17:16 |
| mike7b4 | 07-02 on n9? | 17:16 |
| faenil | I have it on n950 | 17:20 |
| Sage_ | just put it to my n950 moment ago and did zypper ref;zypper up; for it | 17:21 |
| mike7b4 | doesn't boot on my n9 seems like it fallbacks to harmattan when boot, or maybe I do it wrong | 17:22 |
| faenil | Sage_, have you got some experience with the Simulator ? | 17:25 |
| faenil | qtsdk's harmattan sim | 17:26 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5291 Accepted promotion request | 17:27 |
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| Sage_ | faenil: no sry | 17:29 |
| faenil | k np ;) | 17:29 |
| faenil | I see the "previous" screen is still flashing when you open an app on nemomobile | 17:36 |
| faenil | have you already looked into that w00t ? | 17:36 |
| Stskeeps | before or after tearing fix? | 17:38 |
| faenil | Stskeeps, before | 17:38 |
| faenil | does that have to do with it? | 17:38 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5292 Accepted promotion request | 17:38 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 17:41 |
| faenil | mmm | 17:41 |
| faenil | ok, let's see | 17:41 |
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| faenil | Stskeeps, still there | 17:51 |
| Stskeeps | restarted? | 17:51 |
| faenil | Stskeeps, yes | 17:51 |
| faenil | maybe you misunderstood me...I'm talking of this problem | 17:51 |
| faenil | you open app A, close app A, open app B, before the zooming animation of app B shows, you see app A screen flashing | 17:52 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 17:52 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 17:52 |
| faenil | ok.. | 17:52 |
| faenil | then it's not fixed :D | 17:52 |
| faenil | not by the 856->854 change ^^ | 17:52 |
| faenil | Stskeeps, bbl | 17:55 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: oh, http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer-core/systemd.git;a=commit;h=550ef8dfeaf35e2bae27bf115a5503fca73b8117 please point these out that might break updates if not there :/ | 18:06 |
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| w00t | Sage_: hmm? | 18:19 |
| w00t | Stskeeps: it's still there after that | 18:19 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 18:20 |
| * Sage_ fixed yet another problem with systemd | 18:21 | |
| Sage_ | this might actually matter on N900 as /run and /var/run were not linked properly | 18:21 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 18:22 |
| Sage_ | copied the trick from fedora :P | 18:23 |
| Sage_ | as plain ln -s didn't do it :P | 18:23 |
| w00t | are we going to look into the /usr merge stuff, btw? | 18:23 |
| Sage_ | w00t: I'm doing it when ever I'm updating packaging silently ;) | 18:25 |
| w00t | Sage_: hmm, ok, that approach works :p | 18:25 |
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| Sage_ | there is two ways piece by piece or all at the time. Nobody has so far complained so going good ;) | 18:27 |
| w00t | :-P | 18:28 |
| Sage_ | but it is going quite slowly :P | 18:29 |
| Sage_ | we might want to speed up at some point | 18:29 |
| w00t | i'm keen from the "yay, less stat() calls!" point of view | 18:30 |
| w00t | that's about it | 18:30 |
| w00t | :P | 18:30 |
| Sage_ | everything under /lib should be very easy binaries are the hard thing | 18:30 |
| w00t | mm? | 18:30 |
| Sage_ | people have hardcoded binary paths in everywhere so for that doing link from /usr/bin to /bin would make it not to break stuff | 18:31 |
| w00t | eh | 18:32 |
| w00t | heh* | 18:32 |
| Sage_ | thumbs up people :) | 18:33 |
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| Sage_ | :( | 18:39 |
| Sage_ | serial would be so nice | 18:39 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5295 Rejected promotion request | 18:40 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5296 Rejected promotion request | 18:40 |
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| Sage_ | hmmp... Xorg exits with signal 6 during startup once | 18:42 |
| faenil | back :) | 18:42 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: ti-omap3-sgx probably not started | 18:44 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: well the usb networking should get up even if that fails | 18:44 |
| Sage_ | maybe that fails as well...hmmp | 18:44 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: kernel command line, ip= autoconfig, ish? | 18:44 |
| Stskeeps | on usb0 | 18:44 |
| faenil | is there anything like an sdk or something like that for nemo? | 18:46 |
| faenil | or what's the suggested procedure to test software on nemo? | 18:46 |
| faenil | wiki... | 18:48 |
| faenil | the article on the wiki uses harmattan target... | 18:49 |
| faenil | isn't there anything newer? | 18:52 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: I have never verified that it works :) | 18:52 |
| Sage_ | or well never got it working so far :P | 18:52 |
| faenil | special, ping | 18:53 |
| faenil | Stskeeps, so you don't have that flashing glitch on your n950? | 18:54 |
| Stskeeps | i may | 18:54 |
| special | faenil: pong | 18:54 |
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| faenil | Stskeeps, as in? | 18:55 |
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| rcg | re | 18:56 |
| faenil | hey, there's a Mer SDK! why don't you answer :D | 18:57 |
| w00t | mer SDK provides tools like spectacle, osc, etc, it's what I use at least | 18:59 |
| faenil | w00t, ok, then that's better than recreating a harmattan project...given that we also have "nemo plugins" now... | 18:59 |
| w00t | faenil: yeah. and I imagine there will be more integration over time | 19:00 |
| faenil | w00t, ok thanks :) | 19:01 |
| faenil | w00t, though running on the sim was useful :) | 19:01 |
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| special | I've never been able to stand developing touch applications on a simulator | 19:02 |
| faenil | eh, but to test small things :) | 19:03 |
| * lpotter dislikes simulators as well | 19:05 | |
| special | I usually use one-liners to build-copy-stop-restart | 19:06 |
| * w00t spies a familiar face | 19:07 | |
| w00t | hello, lpotter | 19:07 |
| faenil | special, +1 to cmd build/run :) | 19:07 |
| faenil | that's better than everything else :P | 19:07 |
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| lpotter | hiya w00t | 19:13 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5300 Rejected promotion request | 20:01 |
| w00t | the more I actually use QtContacts' QML bindings, the more I question if anyone ever actually used them in a real application before | 20:03 |
| special | w00t: what's the point at which it becomes inconvenient enough to justify patching? | 20:07 |
| w00t | that's a question I'm really not sure of the answer to | 20:08 |
| lpotter | w00t: in theory it has | 20:09 |
| lpotter | theory being some unnamed secret project that got canned | 20:09 |
| w00t | lpotter: you wouldn't happen to have any idea how on earth they got around the awkwardness involved with anything to do with adding multiple details, would you? | 20:09 |
| alterego | w00t: I used them in meego-handset-dialer | 20:10 |
| lpotter | not off hand, no | 20:10 |
| w00t | alterego: that doesn't really count | 20:10 |
| alterego | They worked pretty crappily and unreliably then ;) | 20:10 |
| w00t | once you start straying off anything more simplistic than "display a phone number durr hurr" you start running into pain | 20:10 |
| lpotter | most likely extended it a bit | 20:11 |
| w00t | right now I just want to add a fricking phone number, and it looks like my possibilities are: 1) dive into C++, 2) try createQmlObject a phone number, copy contact.phoneNumbers to a javascript list, append my newly constructed phone number, assign that js list to the phoneNumbers list | 20:11 |
| w00t | and then consider that I want to do that for every detail type that involves more than one detail (like email addresses)... | 20:12 |
| special | (and that's assuming it can implicitly convert a js list to a list<PhoneNumber>) | 20:12 |
| w00t | special: yeah, I'm not sure about that here | 20:12 |
| w00t | I know it'd work with QML2 | 20:12 |
| w00t | but QML1, I'm a bit more sceptical about | 20:12 |
| special | it works with some types in QML1 | 20:12 |
| special | I'm not sure about that case. | 20:12 |
| lpotter | we were working with qml2 | 20:12 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5301 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5301 | 20:13 |
| w00t | lpotter: yeah.. that's a possibility for the future, and for some stuff, but doing qml2 today would involve a lot of complications (like converting everything to build with it, and then figuring out how to deal with GL contexts taking all the RAM in the world on SGX drivers) | 20:14 |
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| alterego | That warranty void image on every restart gets tiresome. | 20:17 |
| alterego | Wastes so much bloody time .. | 20:17 |
| lbt | *nod* | 20:18 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: it seems that part of the problem is dbus | 20:30 |
| Sage_ | it seems to behave oddly at times | 20:35 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5301 Rejected promotion request | 20:37 |
| jonwil | anyone heard of drc, mudrc, stw, eq or aep in an audio/pulseaudio/whatever context? | 20:38 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5302 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5302 | 20:43 |
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| Elleo | okay, not sure what I should do about shiboken; there's currently a shiboken package in CE:Apps, but it's 8 months old and seems to be broken (it generates a package called libshiboken1-0-python2-7, but its -devel package depends on libshiboken1) so I can try building against it; I have my own version called python-pyside-shiboken which builds fine and allows pyside to be built against it; which is fine in my repo, but I don't know if I should be tr | 20:56 |
| Elleo | also assuming that python-pyside should go in CE:MW:Shared instead of CE:Apps (which seems reasonable to me, since it's more middleware than an app) | 20:56 |
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| Elleo | can't try building against it* | 20:57 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5297 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5297 | 20:58 |
| phaeron | you were cut off after "don't know if I should be tr" | 20:59 |
| Elleo | ah | 20:59 |
| Elleo | but I don't know if I should be trying to push that to CE:MW:Shared if there's already a shiboken package in CE:Apps | 20:59 |
| phaeron | Elleo: I would suggest send an email to the mailing list suggesting the changes | 20:59 |
| Elleo | okay, thanks | 20:59 |
| phaeron | because it involves moving packages around , and people are sleeping right now :) | 21:00 |
| Elleo | heh, sure | 21:00 |
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