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| Sage_ | morning | 06:59 |
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| Stskeeps | morn Sage_ | 07:00 |
| Stskeeps | COBS is a bit fucked up | 07:00 |
| Stskeeps | i'm diagnosing | 07:00 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: can I help ? | 07:01 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: i need to somehow make COBS understand the remote link's prjconf has updated | 07:02 |
| Stskeeps | and it's not seeing that | 07:02 |
| phaeron | mm | 07:02 |
| phaeron | did you try deep check ? | 07:03 |
| Stskeeps | i am not a COBS admin | 07:03 |
| Stskeeps | and we'd have to deep check all mer users | 07:03 |
| phaeron | I'll try deep checking the mer link | 07:04 |
| Stskeeps | give me a sec first | 07:05 |
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| Stskeeps | okay, now we're getting somewhere.. | 07:06 |
| phaeron | ok .. | 07:07 |
| Stskeeps | or not | 07:09 |
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| Stskeeps | morn xruxa o/ | 07:09 |
| xruxa | morning | 07:10 |
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| xruxa | came here to bug, OBS give me unresolvable because "nothing provides meego-accelerator". Known issue? | 07:10 |
| Stskeeps | yes, we upgraded to a new release of Mer core and OBS decided to throw a fit | 07:11 |
| Stskeeps | trying to fix it atm :) | 07:11 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: ok, deep check the remote link | 07:14 |
| Stskeeps | OBS doesn't want to listen to reason | 07:15 |
| * Stskeeps headdesks | 07:17 | |
| Stskeeps | moment | 07:17 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: OK, fakeobs wasn't publishing correct project events | 07:22 |
| Stskeeps | and there we go | 07:24 |
| Stskeeps | xruxa: should work now, but builders might be busy | 07:27 |
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| Sage_ | hmmp.... npsr requires nss and nss require npsr? | 07:44 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: that is known thing? | 07:45 |
| Stskeeps | well, nspr -> glibc -> nss | 07:45 |
| Stskeeps | what problems are you encountering it? | 07:45 |
| Sage_ | well, not a problem really, just noted then when submitted npsr the nss failed to build and now when I added nss to my repo npsr is blocked by it :) | 07:45 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 07:46 |
| Sage_ | not sure what breaks that build loop | 07:46 |
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| * rantom says morning and grabs some coffee | 07:49 | |
| xruxa | Stskeeps: works indeed, thanks | 07:59 |
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| jukkaeklund | stskeeps, what should be the next step with phonegap/callback/cordova? | 08:43 |
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| Stskeeps | so, you use qt sdk right now to make the deployable apps i presume? | 08:44 |
| jukkaeklund | yes, I use qt creator and harmattan target | 08:46 |
| jukkaeklund | which is not optimal but works somehow | 08:46 |
| jukkaeklund | I know I should learn obs.. | 08:46 |
| Stskeeps | let's keep the convo in here ;) | 08:46 |
| jukkaeklund | ok | 08:47 |
| Stskeeps | i'm planning on past this month to make a study of how to integrate phonegap into mer | 08:47 |
| jukkaeklund | mer app sdk and phonegap are different topics.. | 08:47 |
| Stskeeps | they're not really | 08:47 |
| jukkaeklund | ok | 08:47 |
| Stskeeps | in this case, phonegap needs the qt sdk | 08:47 |
| Stskeeps | to some extent | 08:47 |
| jukkaeklund | ah | 08:47 |
| Stskeeps | ie, how does a app developer on windows build it for mer-based devices? | 08:48 |
| Stskeeps | ie, the phonegap apps | 08:48 |
| jukkaeklund | right | 08:54 |
| jukkaeklund | I thought that would be just text editor, html etc. and some includes | 08:54 |
| jukkaeklund | but how to package | 08:54 |
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| lbt | morning all | 08:59 |
| rantom | lbt: Morning | 08:59 |
| * rantom headdesks too. | 09:00 | |
| rantom | I was wondering why my N900 refused to boot Nemo Mobile | 09:00 |
| rantom | Well I forgot to put the MMC in it | 09:00 |
| rantom | *sigh* | 09:00 |
| lbt | rofl | 09:01 |
| rantom | That's what you get when you have too many N900's :P | 09:02 |
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| rantom | ...wrong N900 | 09:15 |
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| * jukkaeklund getting frustrated with the N9 & Nemo situation | 09:28 | |
| rantom | jukkaeklund: What's the matter with it? (I'm not aware of that situation) | 09:30 |
| jukkaeklund | cannot flash Nemo | 09:30 |
| rantom | Oh, ok | 09:30 |
| jukkaeklund | have a dual-boot setup like in N950 | 09:31 |
| * Sage_ doesn't care about dual boot if we could just flash the darn device | 09:33 | |
| Stskeeps | well, you can always use the initrd hack now | 09:33 |
| rantom | Is the MOSLO that much different in it or is is something else (i.e. Aegis) that's preventing it? | 09:34 |
| jukkaeklund | N9 prevents using the moslo at least.. | 09:34 |
| jukkaeklund | and if Harmattan is overwritten, how to flash it back? | 09:34 |
| rantom | Yeah | 09:34 |
| rantom | Navifirm? | 09:34 |
| Stskeeps | you know, doesn't the windows updater do re-flash? | 09:34 |
| jukkaeklund | true | 09:35 |
| rantom | Though not the optimal solution, I think | 09:35 |
| jukkaeklund | stskeeps, yeah it does but to get to right device mode it needs booted harmattan afaik | 09:35 |
| jukkaeklund | or at least it didn't work when I tried | 09:35 |
| Stskeeps | jukkaeklund: ok, worth looking into | 09:35 |
| jukkaeklund | navifirm works | 09:35 |
| jukkaeklund | using Nokia updater would be optimal | 09:36 |
| rantom | Would Nokia Updater possibly prevent the "Big scary warning" from appearing as well? | 09:36 |
| jukkaeklund | don't think so | 09:36 |
| jukkaeklund | it's a one-way road | 09:36 |
| jukkaeklund | stskeeps, is the nemo N950 kernel exactly same with harmattan? | 09:37 |
| Stskeeps | jukkaeklund: :nod: | 09:37 |
| Stskeeps | well | 09:37 |
| Stskeeps | not at the moment | 09:38 |
| Stskeeps | but it should work on both | 09:38 |
| jukkaeklund | lets try that anyway, sage_ you have the extra N9? | 09:38 |
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| rantom | Hmm. e-eyes has booted NITDroid in N9. Maybe he knows something about the dual-boot? | 09:55 |
| Stskeeps | it's a warranty-void dual boot anyway | 09:56 |
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| rantom | Yeah.. | 09:56 |
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| Sage_ | jukkaeklund_: yes | 10:22 |
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| lbt | meeting in 20m ? | 10:36 |
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| Sage_ | araujo: https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=165 is this maliit bug? | 10:42 |
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| Sage_ | ANNOUNCEMENT: Nemo Status meeting in #mer-meeting now. | 11:00 |
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| * Sage_ feels slow | 11:28 | |
| Sage_ | thx veskuh :) | 11:28 |
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| veskuh | Sage_: ah, the minutes :) | 11:31 |
| Sage_ | jukkaeklund_: test what? | 11:36 |
| jukkaeklund_ | :) | 11:36 |
| jukkaeklund_ | <Stskeeps> well, you can always use the initrd hack now | 11:36 |
| jukkaeklund_ | what nitdroid folks are doing | 11:36 |
| Sage_ | oh, well I don't think that is working but we can try. | 11:37 |
| jukkaeklund_ | not because of Nemo or? | 11:37 |
| Sage_ | well I think systemd will not run without some patches to the kernel. | 11:38 |
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| jukkaeklund_ | ah yes | 11:40 |
| jukkaeklund_ | and we don't have the sources | 11:40 |
| Sage_ | we have sources but can we recompile the kernel and update it to the device? | 11:41 |
| jukkaeklund_ | didn't stskeeps try that already? | 11:42 |
| Stskeeps | moment, getting in the door | 11:44 |
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| Stskeeps | we can't use the stock kernel from harmattan for various reasons, such as aegis going berserk over our stuff | 11:45 |
| Stskeeps | if we can kexec from there, maybe | 11:45 |
| Sage_ | well, why doesn't it go berserk on nitdroid? | 11:46 |
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| Stskeeps | very good question | 11:47 |
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| Stskeeps | i guess i should check it out at some point | 11:48 |
| Stskeeps | i'm going to get a microsim one of the next days which will free my developer n950 anyway | 11:48 |
| Stskeeps | so i'll use that for testing | 11:48 |
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| Stskeeps | hmm, new report from visionmobile, Cross-Platform Developer Tools 2012. | 11:53 |
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| araujo | Sage_, not sure if it is maliit related .... mikhas https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=165 ? | 12:36 |
| Sage_ | Just wondering who's responsibility it is to say turn on the lights | 12:37 |
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| jukkaeklund_ | is the ICS nitdroid somewhere to download.. | 12:42 |
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| mikhas | Sage_, should be a contextkit property | 12:48 |
| mikhas | but sure, we *could* technically patch that in maliit, too, if you give me the link to the API on how to control the hwkb light | 12:48 |
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| faenil | heya guys :) | 13:28 |
| faenil | seen the new mer release, congrats Stskeeps and all :) | 13:28 |
| Sage_ | mikhas: not sure if that is api that maliit should care or not. | 13:31 |
| Sage_ | mikhas: also not sure if that is even standard api or something device specific | 13:31 |
| Stskeeps | VKB shouldn't control it.. it's mce that ought to | 13:31 |
| mikhas | contextkit tries to abstract things | 13:31 |
| mikhas | Stskeeps, agree | 13:31 |
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| mikhas | perhaps that should be noted on the bug then | 13:32 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps, jukkaeklund_: just FYI did quick package for evkey that was used in nitroid. | 13:40 |
| Sage_ | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=evkey&project=home%3Asage%3AMer | 13:40 |
| Sage_ | so can be found compiled for all archs if needed | 13:40 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 13:40 |
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| Sage_ | hmmp... I can't get the nitroid instructions to work | 13:47 |
| Stskeeps | probably need open kernel | 13:47 |
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| slaine | I can't get nitroid to build, but that's a different story | 13:48 |
| Sage_ | ~ # mknod /tmp/keypad c 13 68 | 13:49 |
| Sage_ | mknod: /tmp/keypad: Operation not permitted | 13:49 |
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| slaine | lbt, I've 10 mins before my next call | 13:50 |
| slaine | lets see what we can do, even if it's just me downloading an ISO | 13:50 |
| Stskeeps | get opensuse 11.4 iso as a start? | 13:50 |
| slaine | What about the OBS appliance ISO's | 13:51 |
| slaine | should move this to #mer actually, thought I was there | 13:51 |
| Sage_ | at lest aegies allows changing the init things apparently :) | 13:51 |
| * Sage_ ponders if there is fdisk binary somewhere in harmattan hidden | 13:54 | |
| Stskeeps | sfdisk? | 13:54 |
| Sage_ | not even that | 13:55 |
| Stskeeps | /bin/busybox sfdisk ? | 13:55 |
| Sage_ | no | 13:55 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 13:55 |
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| Sage_ | they have really stripped even busybox to the minimum | 13:56 |
| Sage_ | hmmp... changes I'm making to /sbin/preinit doesn't seem to have any effect | 14:00 |
| Sage_ | it is funny to see FIXME comments in the file :P | 14:02 |
| Sage_ | ok, something had effect as the n9 doesn't boot anymore :P | 14:07 |
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| Stskeeps | think so | 16:10 |
| Stskeeps | though i can't find whre | 16:11 |
| slaine | probably on github | 16:12 |
| slaine | https://github.com/andreasgal/B2G | 16:13 |
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