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| Sage | morning | 07:07 |
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| Stskeeps | morn | 07:08 |
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| timoph | morn | 07:08 |
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| timoph | https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91 | 07:09 |
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| timoph | tried the broadcom driver on my ideapad yesterday without success | 07:10 |
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| Sage | timoph: you had to comment out xen inclusion so xen.h was missing from kernel package? | 07:12 |
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| timoph | Sage: was missing from kernel package | 07:12 |
| timoph | no such file | 07:12 |
| Sage | timoph: ok, that is a bug then. | 07:12 |
| timoph | but other than than nemo works on ideapad pretty well | 07:13 |
| timoph | planning to put some other UX to it today. plasma or something | 07:14 |
| timoph | dunno yet | 07:14 |
| timoph | xfce might an interesting experiment | 07:15 |
| timoph | *be* | 07:15 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: as the x86 adaptation has only one patch on it what would you think if I would take and update it to 3.2.5 or something and refactor the packaging? | 07:16 |
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| Stskeeps | go ahead | 07:16 |
| Stskeeps | perhaps look at what they did for meego 1.2.0 kernel-adaptation | 07:17 |
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| Sage | isn't that still 2.6.x ? | 07:25 |
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| Stskeeps | think it's 3.0 | 07:25 |
| Sage | well the -pc is only in Trunk at least | 07:25 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 07:25 |
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| Sage | timoph: up for testing new kernel if I get it packaged? | 07:25 |
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| Sage_ | timoph: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=kernel-adaptation-pc&project=home%3Asage%3Abranches%3ACE%3AAdaptation%3Ax86-generic new kernel if you want to hack around :) | 08:27 |
| Sage_ | I have no idea if that works or not because haven't tested it yet | 08:27 |
| timoph | good. I'll see if I have time this evening to play around with it | 08:27 |
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| rantom | Is the "Preconditions" necessary for filing a bug? | 09:14 |
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| rantom | e.g. see bug 20 | 09:15 |
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| Sage_ | rantom: depens on the bug but I would say not always | 09:15 |
| Sage_ | Steps to reproduce is the most important | 09:16 |
| rantom | Sage_: Ok, so in this case it's most likely not important | 09:16 |
| rantom | Thanks | 09:16 |
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| FluxiFlax2022 | hi I did install nemo image on my sd card, it shows 3 partitions on the sd card, I enter the sd card into my phone and it boots through uboot,...it says unable to open boot.csr and then unable t o open device..I get the nemo blue background but it says loading firmware failed | 09:24 |
| FluxiFlax2022 | hm...false alarm it actually booted into nemo ..:D :D | 09:26 |
| FluxiFlax2022 | yuppeeee | 09:26 |
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| FluxiFlax2022 | hm...now I am getting hundreds of errors saying mmcblk0 error - 110 sending status command | 09:28 |
| FluxiFlax2022 | card status 0x0 | 09:28 |
| Stskeeps | are you using pali's uboot or the likes? | 09:28 |
| Stskeeps | we only support uboot-pr13 | 09:28 |
| FluxiFlax2022 | Stskeeps, default uboot right from whithin Maemo..apt-get install uboot-pr13 | 09:30 |
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| Stskeeps | SD card brand? | 09:31 |
| FluxiFlax2022 | Stskeeps, on restart it says failed to register misc device ...Kernel Panic not syncing VFS unable to mount root fs unknown block (179,1) | 09:32 |
| FluxiFlax2022 | checking brand | 09:33 |
| FluxiFlax2022 | Stskeeps, seems like some generic type, it does not state manufacturer | 09:34 |
| Stskeeps | ok, so it might be sour or incompatible | 09:34 |
| FluxiFlax2022 | Stskeeps, I did check it using a tool I foudn online ..it said it is OK...what SD cards are compatible ? | 09:34 |
| Stskeeps | FluxiFlax2022: well, it really varies | 09:35 |
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| rantom | bug 93 and bug 94 filed | 09:36 |
| Stskeeps | morn xruxa | 09:36 |
| xruxa | mining | 09:36 |
| xruxa | or morning | 09:36 |
| Stskeeps | hehe, someone's been playing too much minecraft? ;) | 09:37 |
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| xruxa | don't ask ;) | 09:37 |
| FluxiFlax2022 | Stskeeps, so what should I be looking for when I purchase a SSD card ? Or is there anything else I can try ? | 09:39 |
| Stskeeps | FluxiFlax2022: it is a bit of hit and miss.. can you confirm somehow you're not using anything but uboot-pr13? | 09:39 |
| rantom | It's been a while since I took a screenshot. How can I take a screenshot in Nemo? | 09:39 |
| veskuh | rantom: widgets gallery -> debug tools | 09:40 |
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| rantom | veskuh: Thanks, that worked | 09:42 |
| FluxiFlax2022 | Stskeeps, I had an issue that Ali1234 pointed out yesterday it was related to multiboot being installed, since I had a maemo android multi boot system, but I did remove multiboot and reinstall uboot-pr13 and on startup I only get uboot with the Tux in the upper left corner | 09:42 |
| Stskeeps | FluxiFlax2022: mm, not sure if that'll affect anything | 09:42 |
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| rantom | Hmmh, I guess I found a new bug.. | 09:44 |
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| rantom | Anyone else noticed that using the Mass Storage you'll mount Maemo-partition instead of Nemo? | 09:44 |
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| FluxiFlax2022 | Stskeeps, so I am out of Luck ? | 09:49 |
| Stskeeps | FluxiFlax2022: not sure | 09:50 |
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| Stskeeps | FluxiFlax2022: try putting it in your pc and then back into the device | 09:50 |
| FluxiFlax2022 | Stskeeps, currently running Windows it says not formated..etc..on the PC..that is all just put back into device now ? | 09:52 |
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| Stskeeps | right | 09:53 |
| matrixx | hey, does MDeclarativeCache need CE:Apps:MTF? | 09:56 |
| matrixx | I think it needs, but not sure anymore | 09:56 |
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| veskuh | It comes from meegotouch-applauncherd which is in CE:MW:MTF | 10:03 |
| matrixx | veskuh: thanks | 10:06 |
| FluxiFlax2022 | Stskeeps, back to square one with , unable to open boot.scr and unable to open device errors | 10:08 |
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| FluxiFlax2022 | Stskeeps, based on Update with the current latest Nemo kernel (Jan 26 2012) there are issues with proper initialization of the SD card due to a potential kernel bug (race condition) together with the Pali version of u-boot. This has been confirmed on at least Samsung cards (8 GB class 6 and CLass 10 by Netweaver and Flocke000), also on others (unknown brand, by Pali and plipp). Bug report is entered. [1] | 10:26 |
| FluxiFlax2022 | is it worth trying an older release ? | 10:27 |
| Stskeeps | well, you said you don't use pali u-boot | 10:28 |
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| FluxiFlax2022 | Stskeeps, yep sure about that..not sure what pali u-boot is :) ..so what do you reckon I should try ? | 10:38 |
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| * Sage_ ponders where bmestat_t is defined | 10:43 | |
| Sage_ | and don't say bme as for example qmsystem doesn't depend on bme and it still uses that :) | 10:43 |
| rantom | bug 96 filed | 10:46 |
| rantom | more coming.. | 10:46 |
| Sage_ | rantom: about 96 that is working on my f16 | 10:51 |
| Sage_ | err f15 | 10:51 |
| Sage_ | sure your cable was connected to host? :) | 10:52 |
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| rantom | Sage_: Yes :) | 10:56 |
| rantom | Sage_: I noticed that bug during MeeGo too | 10:56 |
| rantom | Sage_: F15? | 10:56 |
| Sage_ | fedora 15 | 10:56 |
| rantom | Ah, ok | 10:56 |
| Sage_ | it has been working for me always | 10:56 |
| rantom | I'll make a live-cd/dvd and try from that | 10:56 |
| rantom | I'd need another HDD for another distro.. | 10:57 |
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| * veskuh is eagerly expecting which will bug 100 | 10:57 | |
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| rantom | Hmm, I'm getting Fedora 16 | 11:02 |
| rantom | oh well | 11:02 |
| slaine | pulling down 11.10 for my dell mini 9 atm | 11:03 |
| rantom | Ok, Fedora 16 burning | 11:04 |
| rantom | Takes a while | 11:04 |
| slaine | You can dd the iso to a usb key | 11:07 |
| slaine | "Should" be faster | 11:07 |
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| rantom | Yeah | 11:09 |
| rantom | The only thing with burning to USB is that sometimes you can do it directly from dd and sometimes you have to convert the file first and then dd | 11:11 |
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| rantom | And with my knowledge I'm not sure is it a filetype-error or what | 11:11 |
| rantom | e.g. openSUSE I can dd directly to the USB but Ubuntu I have to convert first | 11:12 |
| Sage_ | rantom: the bug 95 is harder issue to solve as we don't currently have vfat partition on Nemo to storing data. lbt nemo 95 relates to the update issue we talked about at BRU btw. | 11:13 |
| rantom | Sage_: ok. Rebooting to Fedora 16 now btw | 11:14 |
| lbt | added to cc | 11:14 |
| rantom | Good if I can mount Nemo in Fedora since I'd need a screenshot from it | 11:15 |
| rantom | I could also scp.. | 11:16 |
| Sage_ | rantom: you can mount it by changing that value in the config yes. | 11:16 |
| slaine | rantom: I think Ubuntu is the only iso that you can't DD | 11:16 |
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| rantom | ok | 11:18 |
| rantom | I'll test nevertheless does it mount in Fedora | 11:19 |
| rantom | I'd assume it's an issue with Sabayon if it mounts in Fedora, correct? | 11:19 |
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| rantom | Sage_: It mounted in Fedora with Maemo | 11:24 |
| rantom | Might be my front-panel since inserting to the back-panel I got the device to mount.. | 11:25 |
| Sage_ | rantom: that is the correct behaviour maemo mounted always | 11:25 |
| Sage_ | rantom: you need to manually edit config file if you want to mount nemo partition | 11:26 |
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| rantom | Sage_: Yep, about to | 11:27 |
| rantom | I'll just confirm if it was my front-panel being a jerk in Sabayon too and then modify the file | 11:27 |
| Sage_ | ok | 11:28 |
| rantom | Is there some sort of editor pre-installed? Nano and vi give me not found | 11:30 |
| veskuh | vim | 11:31 |
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| rantom | Errh, I don't know how to use this | 11:32 |
| Sage_ | rantom: ? | 11:32 |
| rantom | vim | 11:33 |
| rantom | I try to delete and I just go backwards. I try to type and nothing happens | 11:33 |
| veskuh | i for insert then type | 11:34 |
| veskuh | esc to get to command mode and there x deletes | 11:34 |
| veskuh | and to write and get out esc to command mode and the type :wq | 11:34 |
| veskuh | http://blog.interlinked.org/tutorials/vim_tutorial.html | 11:35 |
| rantom | There's no ESC | 11:35 |
| veskuh | hmm.. true.. maybe we should include nano by default instead of vim | 11:36 |
| rantom | seconded | 11:37 |
| anYc | :) | 11:37 |
| timoph | no no | 11:37 |
| veskuh | timoph: purist! | 11:37 |
| veskuh | rantom: zypper install nano | 11:38 |
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| veskuh | its in repo | 11:38 |
| rantom | veskuh: on it already ;) | 11:38 |
| timoph | nano in addition to vi is acceptable but just nano is evil | 11:38 |
| anYc | how do you get into command mode? | 11:39 |
| timoph | open xterm? | 11:41 |
| timoph | err | 11:41 |
| timoph | in vim you meant? | 11:41 |
| timoph | esc | 11:41 |
| timoph | the vkb has it | 11:41 |
| anYc | ah okay, I thought about n900 | 11:42 |
| anYc | hkb | 11:42 |
| timoph | you need to use the vkb for some keys just like with maemo's xterm | 11:46 |
| rantom | Slow... | 11:47 |
| rantom | But I managed to get the Nemo-partition mounted so it's an issue with either my drivers or my hardware | 11:48 |
| rantom | Updating the bug a bit | 11:48 |
| rantom | Sage_: Bug 96 updated | 11:51 |
| Sage_ | rantom: just FYI I'm getting mails about all nemo bugs atm. :) | 11:52 |
| rantom | Sage_: Thought so | 11:54 |
| rantom | This is getting quite boring, Dolphin is being very, very slow | 11:54 |
| rantom | I'm quite sure I could've draw the screenshot by hand by now | 11:55 |
| rantom | finally.. | 11:56 |
| rantom | filing a new bug.. | 11:57 |
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| rantom | bug 99 filed | 12:09 |
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| rantom | \o/ bug 100 filed | 12:14 |
| veskuh | :) | 12:18 |
| rantom | I think I noticed a few, minor ones, more and I'll test if I can reproduce some that I noticed in MeeGo but now I'll take a small(ish) break | 12:19 |
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| rantom | http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N950#Flasher_for_N950 are these instructions still up to date? | 12:21 |
| veskuh | Pretty much yeah, but we have the instructions also in here: http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing | 12:22 |
| rantom | Ok, thanks | 12:23 |
| rantom | Hmm | 12:23 |
| rantom | I have the newest beta, 1.2beta, can I still flash the moslo? | 12:24 |
| veskuh | I don't know actually. I saw some warning that you cannot but old harmattan there anymore, so it might be true for moslo also. | 12:26 |
| rantom | I'll wait then until someone can confirm it | 12:28 |
| rantom | I really don't want to get the N950 to be "bricked" | 12:28 |
| veskuh | That's smart. | 12:28 |
| rantom | Should be | 12:29 |
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| alinux__99 | hi I just tried the latest nemo image on my N900 i have to say that i feel my N900 was reinvented, keep up the good work guys...KUDOS !!! | 19:51 |
| Stskeeps | thanks | 19:52 |
| alinux__99 | Stskeeps, I got myself a new sandisk card, could not find anything better than class 4, if I want to speed up Nemo as much as possible would it be advisable to install on emmc ? or try to get hold on a higher class mmc card ? | 19:54 |
| Stskeeps | class 6 | 19:54 |
| alinux__99 | Stskeeps, dont think I will find that in the country I live in, I will get a higher class card next time I am in London | 19:55 |
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| Stskeeps | yeah, i had a really nasty time finding class 6 too | 19:55 |
| alinux__99 | Stskeeps, how to invoke numbers on N900 hardware keyboard ? Trying to enter my password into a site | 19:56 |
| Stskeeps | blue key | 19:56 |
| alinux__99 | Stskeeps, oh..yeah..I tried double click blue key to invoke a number lock..did not work..but pressing blue key + number button simultaneously works | 19:58 |
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| alinux__99 | Stskeeps, so how do I know whether to just update or deploy a new image based on latest updates ? | 20:00 |
| Stskeeps | if it asks you to download 690 mb it's easier to just deploy | 20:01 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 20:01 |
| alinux__99 | hehe...makes sense | 20:02 |
| alinux__99 | Stskeeps, what about N9 apps from OVI or otherwise ? | 20:06 |
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| vakkov | Is there a way to download source package from the obs | 20:32 |
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| alinux__99 | What app can I use for MSN ? | 21:00 |
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| alinux__99 | hi while using nemo my wifi says it is connected in the status bar, but browsing stops working, I opened xterm and started a ping..the wifi con stays connected but it stops working..pings timeout | 22:24 |
| alinux__99 | Settings say - LinkSys Online - Where LinkSys is the APN | 22:25 |
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