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| faenil | mmm houston we have a problem | 00:04 |
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| faenil | anyone online? | 00:04 |
| faenil | my n950 doesn't charge... | 00:04 |
| faenil | I left it all day at AC charger, and 0% battery now... | 00:05 |
| faenil | I was trying to flash pr 1.2 | 00:05 |
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| Sage | morning | 06:35 |
| Stskeeps | morn | 06:35 |
| * Stskeeps couldn't sleep last night until like 2am, so is a bit trashed | 06:36 | |
| Sage | hmmp... repository problem fixed during the night apparently | 06:36 |
| * araujo downloading now | 06:37 | |
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| veskuh | Sage: What was wrong with image synch? | 07:47 |
| Sage | veskuh: no idea it was ok this morning :) | 07:51 |
| veskuh | Sage: Ok. I was just curious. | 07:51 |
| timoph | magic :) | 07:52 |
| veskuh | or aliens | 07:53 |
| phaeron | sunspots | 07:54 |
| merlin1991 | I vote for alienst | 08:01 |
| merlin1991 | -t | 08:01 |
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| veskuh | Sage: Is pulseaudio consuming CPU also on N900 ? | 09:10 |
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| Sage | veskuh: not really, how much is it consuming on n950? | 09:15 |
| veskuh | 7-8% | 09:16 |
| veskuh | while idle | 09:16 |
| Sage | hmmp | 09:16 |
| Sage | need to flash the official image but for my prerelease it doesn't | 09:17 |
| veskuh | I had that already in prerelease | 09:17 |
| Sage | veskuh: try to remove the link made in pulseaudio settings package | 09:23 |
| Sage | veskuh: that is only thing that changed on N950/N9 pa lately | 09:23 |
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| veskuh | Sage: wierdly that seems to work | 09:31 |
| veskuh | Sage: but I guess that would again break audio on N9? | 09:32 |
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| Sage | veskuh: yes | 09:35 |
| Sage | veskuh: that link shouldn't do any harm on N950 so something in our scripts is probably wrong | 09:36 |
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| veskuh | copying the file does not cause load.. only link | 09:42 |
| veskuh | should the symlink target be fullpath? | 09:45 |
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| Sage | maybe | 09:51 |
| * Sage goes to lunch | 09:51 | |
| veskuh | Sage: yep, looks like the symlink target needs to be fullpath | 09:58 |
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| merlin1991 | what kind of sums are the sums in the MANIFEST file? | 10:05 |
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| merlin1991 | hmm seems to be md5 | 10:16 |
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| merlin1991 | also I wonder why the wiki has no mention of the -l method anymore | 10:22 |
| Sage | veskuh: ok, want to make a patch for that? | 10:42 |
| veskuh | Sage: yep, I can do it. | 10:42 |
| merlin1991 | Sage I was wondering why the MANIFEST for the nemo images does not follow md5sums syntax | 10:47 |
| merlin1991 | ruins the use of md5sum -c MANIFEST | 10:47 |
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| Sage | merlin1991: MANIFEST is created by mic and if it doesn't follow that then is is probably a bug | 10:50 |
| merlin1991 | the difference is that md5sum syntax has a double space between sum and path, I don't know though if that would break other checks | 10:51 |
| Sage | merlin1991: hmmp... need to patch that to mic then | 10:52 |
| Sage | it really should follow md5sum syntax | 10:52 |
| Sage | merlin1991: do you have link to document about the proper syntax? | 10:53 |
| merlin1991 | nope I only know that it works with 2 spaces and that md5sum also outputs 2 spaces if you sum a file | 10:55 |
| Sage | the second space can also be * btw | 10:57 |
| kimju | info coreutils "md5sum invocation" | 10:57 |
| kimju | under -c option the format is explained. | 10:57 |
| kimju | the second space is flag, " " for text file, "*" for binary | 10:58 |
| KaIRC | bah | 10:58 |
| * KaIRC just realized that the USB on his N900 is probably OK, it's the charger that doesn't work right | 10:59 | |
| * merlin1991 wonders if there really is a distinction between 'text' and 'binary' for md5sum | 10:59 | |
| kimju | merlin1991, depends on system. | 11:00 |
| merlin1991 | editing the manifest to ' ' or ' *' bot yields in OK | 11:00 |
| kimju | merlin1991, under dos there is a difference | 11:00 |
| Sage | merlin1991: https://github.com/jfding/mic/pull/10 | 11:00 |
| merlin1991 | ah it's the windows compatability, binary or textmode towards fopen | 11:01 |
| * merlin1991 never understood the reationale behind 'text mode' | 11:02 | |
| Sage | merlin1991: thanks for reporting should be fixed in next release | 11:03 |
| merlin1991 | Sage: I would adjust that to * | 11:04 |
| merlin1991 | since reading binary in textmode on windows stops when you reach a EOF byte in the binary | 11:05 |
| Sage | hmmp | 11:05 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#4202 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/4202 | 11:05 |
| Sage | merlin1991: know what is the proper way to determine if file is binary in python? | 11:06 |
| merlin1991 | Sage: in the case of m5sum binary is always right | 11:07 |
| merlin1991 | textmode stops on EOF and adds \r to \n if not present when writing | 11:07 |
| KaIRC | hah, booted nemo fine when using the N9 charger :) now if only nemo had a LED indicator for charging like fremantle does | 11:08 |
| merlin1991 | and imo you always want to sum the files on disk and not what the os might make out of the data when reading otherwise ;) | 11:09 |
| merlin1991 | KaIRC: about that led inidicator, dunno on my devices it seems that it only works randomly on fremantle :P | 11:12 |
| Sage | merlin1991: well mainly saying that when I do md5sum * on dir it writes " " always | 11:12 |
| merlin1991 | let me try with md5sum on windows | 11:13 |
| KaIRC | merlin1991: always has worked fine on my N900 - but I haven't tweaked any LED settings much | 11:14 |
| merlin1991 | well I'm currantly charching 2 n900s where both have stock mce.ini but only one has the orange/yellow led indicator | 11:15 |
| KaIRC | merlin1991: some orange light or pulse when charging and green light when fully charged would be enough for me :) | 11:16 |
| KaIRC | merlin1991: interesting | 11:16 |
| Sage | veskuh: looks good accepted | 11:16 |
| Sage | KaIRC, merlin1991: patches welcome especially to our mce/dsme stuff :) | 11:17 |
| merlin1991 | KaIRC: that is both n900 are currently running fremantle | 11:17 |
| * KaIRC would probably know how to program this in JavaScript if an API to access the LEDs was already available in Gecko | 11:17 | |
| merlin1991 | Sage: on windows md5sum * outputs me ' *' only :D | 11:17 |
| * Sage is currently wondering why our mce fails to connect dsme socket on first startup http://pastie.org/3262569 | 11:17 | |
| Sage | merlin1991: eh | 11:17 |
| KaIRC | Sage: well, I have no idea about low-level code | 11:17 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#4202 Accepted promotion request | 11:18 |
| merlin1991 | but afaik you won't run into any problems with ' *' on linux since the binary flag for fopen is simply discarded | 11:18 |
| Sage | merlin1991: http://pastie.org/3262576 :) | 11:18 |
| Sage | so " *" is ok for both :) | 11:19 |
| Stskeeps | boarding, bbl | 11:21 |
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| merlin1991 | is there an architectural overview somehwere for nemo? It's kinda hard to grasp where all the different stuff plugs into each other (dsme, bme, mce, ...) | 11:39 |
| veskuh | merlin1991: hmm.. not really.. but I'm sure that meego.com would have something about meego handset architecture | 11:40 |
| veskuh | merlin1991: that still applies quite much, even though we have some bigger changes already like systemd | 11:40 |
| veskuh | merlin1991: and on the UI side we have qtcomponents in addition to MTF | 11:41 |
| * merlin1991 is going todo fremantle v2.0, slap hildon-* on top of nemo again :D | 11:43 | |
| veskuh | merlin1991: best I could find is this: http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_Porting_Guide | 11:43 |
| merlin1991 | thanks veskuh | 11:44 |
| Sage | merlin1991: OBS structure is shown here http://sage.kapsi.fi/Mer/misc/Nemomobile-OBS-project-structure-draft.png | 11:53 |
| Sage | veskuh: could you pastebin "dmesg | grep -i dsme" on N950? | 11:55 |
| veskuh | Sage: sec.. | 11:56 |
| veskuh | Sage: nothing, I've got bunch of connmand stuff flushing early messages though | 12:00 |
| Sage | ah, flooded out then | 12:00 |
| Sage | +ExecStartPre=/usr/sbin/waitfordsme | 12:02 |
| Sage | ^ probably need to add that to mce as it currently fails to start at first | 12:02 |
| veskuh | Yep, the start after writing new image (right after moslo) fails on n950 also. | 12:03 |
| Sage | adding that line in /lib/systemd/system/mce.service should fix that | 12:04 |
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| veskuh | Sage: On N9 I dsme complains about missing /etc/init.conf | 12:07 |
| veskuh | Sage: but I do not know if that is from first boot | 12:07 |
| Sage | I think that is ok error. IIRC adding that causes device not to boot :) | 12:07 |
| veskuh | ok | 12:08 |
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| * Stskeeps lands in .fi | 13:59 | |
| slaine | Stskeeps: That was some jump | 14:02 |
| w00t | Stskeeps: welcome | 14:03 |
| Stskeeps | yeah.. i am almost disappointed in the cold | 14:03 |
| Stskeeps | it bit a lot more in warsaw | 14:03 |
| w00t | today isn't too bad | 14:03 |
| slaine | Been a very mild winter here in Ireland | 14:04 |
| * admiral0 wants to see finland :( | 14:04 | |
| slaine | I bought a 1/2 ton of logs and barely touched them | 14:04 |
| Stskeeps | ok, got my bag already, bbl | 14:06 |
| timoph | Stskeeps: welcome | 14:15 |
| timoph | Stskeeps: staying only in helsinki or planning to visit tampere as well? | 14:15 |
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| * KaIRC is so happy his N900 USB isn't dead (and that it's the charger) that he wants to load the new nemo image onto it immediately ;-) | 16:46 | |
| timoph | :) | 16:46 |
| timoph | hmmh. second hand n900 prize seems to be around 100e currently | 16:54 |
| * timoph is thinking of buying a spare one just in case | 16:54 | |
| merlin1991 | I did that last week :D | 16:56 |
| timoph | dm8tbr: what's a good and hackable archos device? | 16:58 |
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| KaIRC | timoph: you can also post in that Mozilla bug so you might get one (it's currently a bit unclear how they will be given away but it might be that one person takes them and ships them to everyone who requested one) | 17:00 |
| KaIRC | https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=701784 | 17:01 |
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| timoph | interesting | 17:10 |
| * timoph requested 10-20 devices for devaamo :) | 17:21 | |
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