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| Sage | morning | 08:33 |
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| veskuh | morning | 08:33 |
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| Stskeeps | morn | 08:34 |
| Sage | hmmp... haven't had time to look the latest image yet and I guess we have the sysui issue still? | 08:35 |
| Sage | and with latest I mean the new Mer Core + stuff | 08:35 |
| Stskeeps | yes, i presume so | 08:36 |
| Sage | so, username "mer" or "nemo" ? | 08:36 |
| Stskeeps | i guess nemo would be consistent | 08:37 |
| veskuh | hmm.. I'd say nemo, that way we can be sure that mer does not make assumption about username | 08:37 |
| Sage | sounds good | 08:38 |
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| niqt | morn | 08:43 |
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| Sage | veskuh: up for testing new n950 image soon? | 09:03 |
| veskuh | yep | 09:03 |
| Sage | I'll can do n900 and exopc tests | 09:03 |
| Sage | just need to check if the image is usable and if there is any regressions in it. | 09:04 |
| veskuh | sure | 09:04 |
| Sage | I think systemui is problem at least | 09:04 |
| Sage | named the release 0.20120120.1.NEMO.2012-01-26-PRE-RELEASE.1 :) | 09:04 |
| Sage | not going to upload to normal place though will paste the link when it is available | 09:05 |
| veskuh | yep, makes sense. | 09:05 |
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| Sage | veskuh: http://sage.kapsi.fi/Mer/tmp/0.20120120.1.NEMO.2012-01-26-PRE-RELEASE.1/images/ | 09:22 |
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| veskuh | Sage: downloading | 09:28 |
| Sage | o_0 | 09:34 |
| Sage | our installer shell is broken | 09:34 |
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| Stskeeps | working on a OBS mindmap for a presentation, http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/mindmap/Open%20Build%20Service.html | 09:35 |
| Stskeeps | (click some of the nodes) | 09:35 |
| Sage | have we touched sfdisk lately? | 09:36 |
| Stskeeps | util-linux? | 09:36 |
| Sage | oh, crap | 09:36 |
| niqt | how to do screenshot in nemo? | 09:37 |
| Sage | widgetsgallery | 09:37 |
| Sage | there is screenshot tool | 09:37 |
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| niqt | ok | 09:42 |
| veskuh | Sage: SystemUI crashes or does not start | 09:51 |
| veskuh | Sage: Its also really hard to hit controls on the edges, was there any change in gesture-plugin? | 09:52 |
| veskuh | Sage: calls, sms work | 09:52 |
| veskuh | wifi works. In general performance is quite bad, but it might be just the tracker indexing in the beginning.. | 09:58 |
| Stskeeps | 'top'? | 09:59 |
| veskuh | It is so painful to use that I did not have enrgy to do it :) | 10:00 |
| veskuh | Ah, sysuid is alive probably in busyloop | 10:01 |
| Stskeeps | explains bad perf then | 10:01 |
| veskuh | yep | 10:01 |
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| Sage | so, 2 bugs sysuid and installer-shell | 10:32 |
| Sage | i'll look that installer-shell now if I could find out why it fails | 10:32 |
| Sage | anyway sysuid and installer-shell needs to be fixed before we can make a releas | 10:34 |
| veskuh | Sage: yes, sysuid is a showstopper on n950 | 10:34 |
| veskuh | Sage: I'll see if I can figure out what is going on there | 10:34 |
| Sage | ah, my bad. Installer shell fails as normal user | 10:36 |
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| faenil | morning | 10:40 |
| Sage | veskuh: same sysuid problem on exopc. On exopc it leaves the "Charging not started. Replace charger." message to screen and halt there | 10:43 |
| veskuh | Sage: Here is the output when starting from command line: http://pastie.org/3255541 | 10:44 |
| faenil | live from my last uni exam, somebody help me calm down please XD | 10:44 |
| faenil | aaaaaaaaaaaa | 10:44 |
| * Stskeeps injects faenil with caffeine | 10:45 | |
| faenil | that's not going to help XD | 10:45 |
| Stskeeps | faenil: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmCjMRAzCiE | 10:45 |
| faenil | I'm the 9th, 2nd going on right now.. | 10:45 |
| * faenil is waiting for the video to load... | 10:46 | |
| Stskeeps | get off irc and read your outlines through | 10:46 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:46 |
| faenil | ahahahahaha (watching the video) | 10:47 |
| faenil | nah 2 hours have gone...don't want to keep reading notes | 10:47 |
| faenil | tcp, udp, csma/cd, wifi, eth, p2p, ssl...and all that stuff, all in mind, yeah! | 10:48 |
| * faenil tries to convince himself he's ready | 10:48 | |
| faenil | you know what I'm going to do in the meanwhile, code the gallery viewer for nemomobile | 10:49 |
| faenil | ahahah | 10:49 |
| Sage | veskuh: http://pastie.org/3255576 | 10:53 |
| faenil | nah this is not the right moment :D going to wait and stop bothering people in this channel :D | 10:53 |
| Sage | that keysniffer is the volume control thingy | 10:54 |
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| veskuh | Something changed in Xlibs? | 10:54 |
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| Sage | we got X11 libs updated yes | 10:55 |
| Sage | let me disable that patch we have and lets try it after that | 10:55 |
| Sage | how the volumecontrol work in harmattan? Do we really need that patch? | 10:57 |
| faenil | is there anyone who will fix the battery level in here' | 10:58 |
| faenil | ? | 10:58 |
| veskuh | Sage: yep, it is the quilty one | 10:59 |
| veskuh | cd /usr/share/meegotouch/applicationextensions/ and move volume desktop file a way. | 11:00 |
| veskuh | Sage: I think we do need it. Volume in Harmattan is probably tied to profiles and we never did get that working in meego | 11:01 |
| Sage | didn't harmattan drop profiled as well? | 11:02 |
| veskuh | Don't know | 11:03 |
| Sage | I think someone said something about that | 11:03 |
| Sage | http://meego.gitorious.org/meego-middleware/profiled <- moved to closed development? | 11:03 |
| veskuh | Yep, we never really managed to integrate it to meego before feb11 | 11:04 |
| faenil | since 1.2 is out for n950, I'll flash it this afternoon | 11:05 |
| faenil | is there anything I have to take care of when testing the nemo viewer on harm? | 11:05 |
| Sage | veskuh: https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=Project%3AMTF:UX <- try sysuid from here | 11:06 |
| Sage | veskuh: CE:UX:MTF repo | 11:06 |
| Sage | CE_UX_MTF_X that is | 11:07 |
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| Sage | veskuh: at least on my exopc sysuid works in that, but could you test if volume works (shouldn't work but you never know) | 11:11 |
| veskuh | ok | 11:11 |
| Sage | ok, it seems that the default volume control uses com.Nokia.MainVolume1 | 11:14 |
| Sage | That is pulseaudio plugin IIRC | 11:14 |
| Sage | so in theory we should be able to use the same plugin | 11:14 |
| Sage | http://mg.pov.lt/harmattan-irclog/%23harmattan.2011-09-26.log.html#t2011-09-26T18:20:50 <- is it so? | 11:16 |
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| Stskeeps | ... i don't think we ever really ported it | 11:17 |
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| veskuh | Sage: New version works, but no volume obviously | 11:21 |
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| Sage | veskuh: ok | 11:26 |
| Stskeeps | is the volume control patch causing the systemuid cpu usage? | 11:26 |
| veskuh | Stskeeps: yes, it looks like | 11:26 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 11:26 |
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| Sage | http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/pool/harmattan-beta3/free/p/pulseaudio-meego/ <- at least it is open | 11:28 |
| Sage | hmmp | 11:31 |
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| Sage | I'll check the current code and see if I can find something | 11:37 |
| veskuh | Based on your backtrace looks like something going wrong in this bit: http://pastie.org/3255790 | 11:39 |
| veskuh | Can it be endless recursion? | 11:39 |
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| Sage | well that should return always at some point | 11:49 |
| Sage | there is mutex problem in the code though | 11:51 |
| Sage | I'm not entirely sure what the mMutex is for there what value it is trying to protect | 11:53 |
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| Sage | veskuh: everything else seems to work in the image? | 12:43 |
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| veskuh | Sage: Yes, otherwise it is on the same level as before. | 12:50 |
| Sage | k | 12:50 |
| Sage | veskuh: http://pastie.org/3256146 <- compiling in Project:MTF:UX could you give that a go on N950? | 12:51 |
| Sage | veskuh: err... + and - signes reversed in that pastie :) | 12:52 |
| veskuh | Sage: removed the mutex? Sure, I'll give it a go. | 12:53 |
| Sage | fixed | 12:53 |
| Sage | didn't remove the mutex but changed it to be more safe | 12:53 |
| Sage | also some other minor changes to that sniffer thingy | 12:54 |
| Sage | didn't cause busy loop on exopc at least, trying n900 soon when image is written to sd card | 12:55 |
| Stskeeps | was it locking the mutex within the mutex? | 12:55 |
| w00t | mutexes :( | 12:56 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: well I really wasn't sure what the mutex was for in the original code | 12:57 |
| Sage | it didn't seem to lock anything out | 12:57 |
| Sage | now it secures the X Display handling at least which I think it was originally meant to do. | 12:59 |
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| * Sage noted error in his code. | 12:59 | |
| Sage | should works still though | 13:00 |
| Sage | at least the nemo user works now | 13:01 |
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| veskuh | Sage: I think your fix is working! | 13:03 |
| Stskeeps | ok, power cut in my apartment | 13:04 |
| Stskeeps | btw, did you see they released enyo yesterday? | 13:05 |
| Sage | veskuh: yes so do I | 13:05 |
| Stskeeps | and planning on publishing qt webkit bindings | 13:05 |
| Sage | veskuh: although sysuid is still consuming 10% cpu but not sure if that was so before already | 13:05 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: I saw the announcement but didn't read much about tit | 13:06 |
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| Sage | it* | 13:06 |
| veskuh | Sage: hmm.. that is still too much, It might drain battery | 13:08 |
| Sage | veskuh: :nod: not sure if that is because of the volume or something else. But at least it works now on N900 | 13:09 |
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| veskuh | pulseaudio is also consuming cpu all the time | 13:09 |
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| Sage | veskuh: but that is soemthign else. Killed sysuid and pulseaudio is still consuming | 13:12 |
| veskuh | Sage: ah, same here actually | 13:12 |
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| Sage | veskuh: the sytemui seems to consume even without the volume plugin | 13:16 |
| veskuh | ah, probably older problem then. | 13:18 |
| Sage | veskuh: hmmp, it seems to be the charger animation | 13:18 |
| Sage | if I unplug charger then systemui doesn't consume it seems | 13:18 |
| Sage | or consumes a lot less at least | 13:19 |
| veskuh | Ah, and it does not detect if the screen is visible or no. Well, that is stupid, but ok since only happens when in charger | 13:19 |
| veskuh | So I think sysuid is good to go. | 13:19 |
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| Sage | k | 13:24 |
| veskuh | pulseaudio cpu use is regression compared to older images | 13:24 |
| veskuh | I have basically 0% 2012-01-05.1 | 13:25 |
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| Sage | :/ | 13:28 |
| veskuh | Fixed sysuid seems to be on par with older image | 13:28 |
| Sage | \o/ | 13:28 |
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| Sage | So no other blocker regressions in the image so we can do new release today? | 13:31 |
| veskuh | Yes, I think so. | 13:32 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#4196 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/4196 | 13:34 |
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| veskuh | Sage: QmlComponentGallery does not start, but that is minor regression since it is more or less demo app | 13:40 |
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| veskuh | Sage: it does not start because singe-instance runner assumes user meego | 13:40 |
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| veskuh | Sage: And I think I have fix for it. (applauncherd) | 13:47 |
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| veskuh | Sage: https://build.pub.meego.com/request/show/4197 | 14:03 |
| Sage | hmmp... that patch should really be fixed with $HOME | 14:08 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#4196 Rejected promotion request | 14:15 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#4198 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/4198 | 14:16 |
| Sage | hmmp | 14:16 |
| Sage | veskuh: bad thing with the applauncher patch is that this patch will destroy updates | 14:16 |
| veskuh | ? | 14:17 |
| Sage | old image has meego username and after update the package expects nemo | 14:18 |
| veskuh | Ah, I think qmlcomponentgallery is the only that breaks with applauncherd update | 14:18 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#4199 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/4199 | 14:18 |
| veskuh | hmm.. maybe dialer coming to foreground also | 14:19 |
| Sage | hmmp | 14:21 |
| Sage | /var/run/applauncherd <- is this dir present on your fs? | 14:21 |
| veskuh | no | 14:21 |
| Sage | ok, another problem in applauncherd probably | 14:22 |
| Sage | reExec fails if that dir isn't there | 14:22 |
| Sage | const char *Daemon::m_stateDir = "/var/run/applauncherd"; | 14:23 |
| Sage | const char *Daemon::m_stateFile = "/var/run/applauncherd/saved-state"; | 14:23 |
| Sage | that dir is for root only so it can't be used as such | 14:23 |
| Sage | we need to move that to home as well I guess | 14:23 |
| * Sage checks how much that needs fixing | 14:24 | |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#4199 Accepted promotion request | 14:34 |
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| * araujo wonders if we are going to get a nemo release today | 14:42 | |
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| Sage | araujo: maybe :) | 14:48 |
| araujo | :) | 14:50 |
| * Stskeeps glares at his airplane ticket | 14:50 | |
| Stskeeps | my booking code contains the word 'BUG' | 14:50 |
| Stskeeps | that can't be good :> | 14:50 |
| araujo | haha | 14:50 |
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| matrixx | Stskeeps: :D | 14:58 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#4198 Rejected promotion request | 15:04 |
| Sage | veskuh: still here? | 15:04 |
| veskuh | yep | 15:04 |
| Sage | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=0001-BMC22845-Move-var-run-to-home.patch&package=meegotouch-applauncherd&project=Project%3AMTF%3AMW&srcmd5=9e991166884d1a178ff5e1778c4eafd0 | 15:05 |
| Sage | pah, should have tested if it compiles :) | 15:05 |
| Sage | hmmp | 15:07 |
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| Sage | veskuh: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=meegotouch-applauncherd&project=Project%3AMTF%3AMW | 15:17 |
| veskuh | Ok, will try | 15:17 |
| veskuh | Probably not related but meego-pinquery happened in startup :) | 15:24 |
| veskuh | for long time I do not remember seeing that | 15:24 |
| Sage | well might be related if it uses applauncherd | 15:24 |
| Sage | I moved more files to users home dir | 15:24 |
| Sage | veskuh: there should be /home/nemo/applauncherd dir now btw | 15:25 |
| Sage | ah, need to add . there | 15:25 |
| veskuh | Sage: That dir is missing | 15:27 |
| veskuh | .single-instance is and app*.lock file exists | 15:27 |
| Sage | hmmp, might appear after couple of application startups with applauncherd in use | 15:27 |
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| veskuh | QmlComponentGallery works, dialer ui pops up on incoming, and the apps that I know using booster all seem to start/work | 15:28 |
| veskuh | looking good to me | 15:28 |
| Sage | try to start some app that uses applauncherd twice | 15:29 |
| veskuh | booster daemons running also | 15:29 |
| Sage | and check if applauncherd dir appears to home | 15:29 |
| veskuh | Nope, there is stuff under .single-instance-locks for some of the apps, but not all. | 15:33 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#4200 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/4200 | 15:34 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: http://imageshack.us/g/835/screenshotlms.png/ dawati on mer | 15:34 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: cool! | 15:34 |
| Sage | veskuh: ok, well if everything works that is good enough for me | 15:35 |
| phaeron | used xwd for screenies | 15:35 |
| veskuh | Sage: Seems to work | 15:35 |
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| veskuh | Sage: it might be dir for state saving, that was planned at some point but might not have happened. | 15:36 |
| Sage | veskuh: ah, ok | 15:36 |
| * Stskeeps twitters | 15:36 | |
| Sage | wow, what is the dawati based on? | 15:39 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage: updated meego netbook ux, gtk3 | 15:40 |
| Sage | looks like netbook ux | 15:40 |
| Sage | ah, ok | 15:40 |
| Stskeeps | and without annoying trademark graphics | 15:40 |
| Sage | hehe | 15:40 |
| Stskeeps | though it probably won't install well on arm | 15:40 |
| phaeron | why not arm ? | 15:41 |
| Stskeeps | well, isn't it fairly tied to OpenGL (not ES)? | 15:41 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#4200 Accepted promotion request | 15:41 |
| phaeron | running opengles currently | 15:41 |
| phaeron | anything to make sure ? | 15:41 |
| Sage | phaeron: rpm -qa | grep GL :) | 15:42 |
| phaeron | hmm yeah did so | 15:42 |
| phaeron | weird I started with EGL | 15:42 |
| Sage | pastie? | 15:42 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: well, maybe mutter etc needs to be switched to egl/gles | 15:42 |
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| phaeron | mutter linked to /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 | 15:44 |
| phaeron | can I change that symlink .. :) | 15:45 |
| Sage | :P | 15:45 |
| Sage | ok, I guess it is time to build release images next | 15:46 |
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| phaeron | I need to look at compiling it against egl ? | 15:48 |
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| nsuffys | hello | 15:52 |
| nsuffys | no new build of nemomobile N900 / i586.. today ? | 15:52 |
| Sage | nsuffys: building new release atm. | 15:53 |
| Sage | just a bit later than usual, but it should be available today. | 15:53 |
| nsuffys | ok, thank you Sage ;) I'm impatient to test it on my WeTab and N900 ;) | 15:53 |
| Sage | we had some regressions that we needed to fix before making release so it was delayed a bit. | 15:53 |
| nsuffys | ok | 15:53 |
| nsuffys | good luck | 15:54 |
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| faenil | yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah | 16:40 |
| faenil | It's gone! :D | 16:40 |
| faenil | Exams finished! | 16:41 |
| araujo | Sage, images are not in the folders? | 16:41 |
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| niqt | new nemo image for n900 is fake file | 16:47 |
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| beford | fake file? impossibru | 17:03 |
| timoph | afaik it's still synching so there's only a temp file | 17:06 |
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| Stskeeps | stroughtonsmith: what did you do to get enyo 1.0 working on harmattan_ | 18:49 |
| Stskeeps | ? | 18:49 |
| timoph | huh. | 18:51 |
| * timoph seems have missed something interesting | 18:51 | |
| timoph | +to | 18:51 |
| Stskeeps | he claimed on twitter it ran on harmattan, so was curious :) | 18:52 |
| timoph | ah | 18:52 |
| stroughtonsmith | Stskeeps: just ran it in the browser | 19:06 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 19:06 |
| stroughtonsmith | http://enyojs.com/samples/stylematters/ | 19:06 |
| stroughtonsmith | that one | 19:06 |
| stroughtonsmith | is enyo 1.x, the only one with widgets | 19:06 |
| stroughtonsmith | designed for webkit, is a bit nasty on harmattan | 19:07 |
| Stskeeps | ok, odd that it didn't work on harmattan | 19:07 |
| Stskeeps | it's wk2 | 19:07 |
| stroughtonsmith | well webkit2 is in itself buggy and incompatible with things | 19:07 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, okay | 19:07 |
| stroughtonsmith | harmattan and 10.7 are the only platforms using it afaik | 19:07 |
| Stskeeps | we should try it in Mer in webkit 2.2.1 | 19:07 |
| Stskeeps | er, qtwebkit | 19:07 |
| stroughtonsmith | it does like hardware transforms, runs acceptably on iOS and Android 4 | 19:08 |
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| merlin1991 | hm what happened with the new nemo images, apart from the mic log there still is nothing | 19:40 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: ^ | 19:41 |
| merlin1991 | and md5sums are there, but it seems image transfer got stuck | 19:41 |
| merlin1991 | http://repository.maemo.org/meego/Nemo/0.20120120.1.NEMO.2012-01-26.1/images/nemo-handset-armv7hl-n900/ | 19:41 |
| merlin1991 | hm n900 kb seems to still be uk only | 19:45 |
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| Sage | sync failed for some reason apparently | 19:53 |
| Sage | and it haven't resynced for some reason | 19:53 |
| merlin1991 | "some reason" :P | 19:54 |
| Sage | I don't have access to that cron job so can't say why | 19:55 |
| Sage | need to get hold of X-Fade to find out why it fails | 19:55 |
| Sage | or hmmp... maybe we ran out of space :/ | 19:57 |
| merlin1991 | good luck reaching X-Fade :/ | 19:59 |
| merlin1991 | can you move the files somewhere else for the moment? | 19:59 |
| merlin1991 | else as in public visible | 20:01 |
| Sage | files are on my work laptop and I'm at home :/ | 20:01 |
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| Sage | I though that I would take the laptop with but didn't do that afterall :/ | 20:02 |
| merlin1991 | no ssh magic for your work laptop? :D | 20:03 |
| Stskeeps | just send a mail to mailing list that it's broken and we'll fix tomorrow | 20:03 |
| Sage | :nod: doing that atm | 20:03 |
| merlin1991 | Stskeeps: mailing list already has a post in the tread | 20:04 |
| * timoph was just about to send | 20:04 | |
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| * timoph doesn't | 20:04 | |
| Stskeeps | ok | 20:04 |
| merlin1991 | and it's 1hr old :D | 20:04 |
| ilold9 | a little info. today I tried archlinux on n900 with gnome3-fallback on fbdev. it ran quite well, usable even. hardfp really makes a difference. oh, it the complete gnome stuff with games and networkmanager-applet ohne used abou 100mb ram. | 20:08 |
| Stskeeps | hardfp helps a lot, yeah | 20:09 |
| ilold9 | I don't want to depress you, but somehow nemo must lower ram usage. the best would be make it usable without swap. | 20:11 |
| Stskeeps | ilold9: you're not utilizing gles either, though? | 20:11 |
| ilold9 | right, but nemo doesn't run without, right? | 20:12 |
| Stskeeps | it doesn't, no | 20:12 |
| Stskeeps | but anyway, we're happy to see people can use other OS'es on n900 | 20:12 |
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| Stskeeps | and hopefully our hardware adaptation bits help people doing so | 20:12 |
| Stskeeps | we're actively working to lower footprint of both mer and nemo | 20:12 |
| ilold9 | I was really happy I even managed to get german keyboard layout on archlinux. can I change it in nemo via xorg.conf.d too? | 20:13 |
| Stskeeps | think so | 20:14 |
| Stskeeps | or at least in our setxkbmap .desktop file hack | 20:14 |
| ilold9 | very good. | 20:14 |
| Stskeeps | the keymaps are there | 20:14 |
| Stskeeps | i've been there, btw - i did deblet for n8x0 back in the days | 20:15 |
| Stskeeps | in the end you realize it's not truly useable as a mobile OS and not designed for it | 20:15 |
| Stskeeps | there are definately things that shouldn't be used if we did nemo all over again, for sure, but that was the technologies available at the time | 20:16 |
| Stskeeps | and we're already quite a lot lower in memory usage than we have been :) | 20:16 |
| Stskeeps | if you want, you're welcome to put any UI you want on top instead | 20:16 |
| Stskeeps | and re-use the hardware adaptation | 20:17 |
| Stskeeps | but in the end, it comes down to contributors and contributions, which we don't have many of | 20:18 |
| Stskeeps | especially due to the fragmentation of the community surrounding the devices | 20:18 |
| ilold9 | well, I like nemo. it is (ignoring bugs and lack of apps) the most usable ui for n900, tablets even. I often look over to e17 and elementary but there are even more bugs and some really stupid usability decisions. | 20:20 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 20:20 |
| Stskeeps | contribution to help bring down memory usage most welcome, though do remember we intentionally cache extra in order to load apps faster, etc | 20:20 |
| Stskeeps | if we get rid of MTF apps, our memory usage drops too | 20:21 |
| Stskeeps | anyhow, time to sleep | 20:22 |
| ilold9 | gn8 | 20:23 |
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