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Stskeepshttp://www.tizenexperts.com/2012/01/video-tizen-emulator-sdk/06:48
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Sagemorning07:16
Stskeepsmorn sage07:18
Sagebtw, the thumb press registering thing is quite annoying on N900 again :/07:23
Sagewhat turns wetab off when powerkey is pressed?07:25
Sageacpid?07:25
Stskeepsthink so07:25
Stskeepsdidn't we have a bug for thumb?07:25
Sageyes07:26
Sagehttps://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6207:26
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Sagehttp://pastie.org/317090007:26
Sageuh, quite easy to patch07:27
Sageif mce is running it should be ignored as well07:27
Sagewow, that was easy fix for powerkey :)07:29
Stskeepsmer/nemo is fantastic, of course it was easy ;)07:30
Sage:)07:31
Sagehmmp... with harder press it is very hard not to for example slide the application grid thus the press is not starting app on N900 so easily07:32
Stskeeps'set' shows the right value, right?07:33
Stskeepsfor qt env variable07:33
SageQT_USE_DRAG_DISTANCE=1207:34
Sageoh, crap07:43
Sageacpid dependend on consolekit on scripts :D07:43
* Sage check newer upstream 07:44
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Sagewhat shutsdown the n900 when long press of powerbutton is done? dsme?07:54
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Stskeepsyeah07:56
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Sagehttps://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=acpid.power.sh&package=acpid&project=home%3Asage%3Abranches%3ACE%3AAdaptation%3Ax86-generic&srcmd5=5635e179d5275979eaf3c9212c179fa308:00
Sagewhy session needs to be active for that to work?08:00
SageI mean why they first check the active session and only after that if there is valid power manager08:01
Sagethe session check doesn't work for us as our consolekit well was broken and doesn't exist soon :)08:01
SageJust wondering if I should just remove the session checks for good08:01
Sagemaybe just like http://pastie.org/317101908:03
Sagemainly pondering if I'm forgetting something critical08:05
Stskeepsmce is in /sbin?08:05
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Sageyes08:08
Sage/usr/sbin would be better though08:08
Sagebut it is run as root thus sbin08:08
SageI guess at least that it is the reason :)08:09
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xruxaw00t: playing with qmlcontacts - did you say installing the 'new' libseaside on device will bring something? Before I start testing on device ;)08:13
w00tit'll break dialer and sms08:14
xruxaw00t: IC, dialer is bad case - will it crash and respawn?08:14
w00tit just won't work08:14
w00tI *think* I fixed it in the OBS project that qmlcontacts is in08:14
w00tbut I don't know if I tested that08:14
xruxaw00t: packaging of the new bits (qmlcontacts, seaside) - we do not have that either, do we?08:15
w00twe do, that's the OBS project i mentioned :)08:15
* xruxa will look08:15
w00thome:w00t:branches:Project:MTF:Tracker08:16
w00tdialer is apparently not building in there since it got upgraded elsewhere presuambly08:16
veskuhw00t: yep, I've upgraded dialer. Now supports names in contact history (will be in next rel)08:17
w00t:)08:17
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* xruxa came across a nice set of avatars for the qmlcontacts, under Creative Commons (Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0 Unported)08:17
xruxaw00t: ^ you think this is a go or rather not for qmlcontacts?08:17
Stskeepsif it's themeable and replace-able it should be fine?08:18
w00tagreed08:18
SageStskeeps: thoughs about this acpid thing? If not I'm submitting this https://build.pub.meego.com/package/rdiff?opackage=acpid&oproject=CE%3AAdaptation%3Ax86-generic&package=acpid&project=home%3Asage%3Abranches%3ACE%3AAdaptation%3Ax86-generic&rev=508:18
StskeepsSage: what did fedora do?08:18
xruxaw00t, Stskeeps: so if those avatars are under Attribution license, where should we attribute? In the app itself?08:19
Stskeepsi guess, or packaging?08:19
SageStskeeps: http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/?p=acpid.git;a=blob;f=acpid.power.sh;h=dfd2a6d360eed304838a2f3f45b8b4dc58bd51da;hb=HEAD <- they still rely on consolekit08:19
StskeepsSage: ok08:19
w00tsource + packaging is where i'd do it08:19
* xruxa getting segfault when trying to show all those 100+ avatars in QML. Sigh.08:20
SageThe bad thing with that is that when mce is running it is not possible to turndown the i586 cleanly as long press will just do hard poweroff08:20
Sagehowever, I make that less bad than the accidental shutdowns I have been having with the wetab/exopc by accidently pressing powerbutton. Also now we can get the display blank when wanted.08:22
Sage[    8.096303] DSME[346]: pwrkeymonitor: Unable to find device that matches "pwrbutton"08:26
Sage^ maybe the reason why dsme doesn't work on i586 :)08:26
Stskeepsprobably yeah08:29
Stskeepsit's not a gpio08:29
Sageah, that detection plugin written by marquiz_08:31
Sageanyway i586 hw turns off automatically after powerbutton is pressed for 5s (default?)08:32
Stskeepsmm08:32
Sagenot nice way to shutdown but well it takes power off08:32
Stskeepsi managed to get my exopc into a state where i couldn't power it off08:33
Sagewow, haven't been able to do that :)08:33
Sage5s+ helps always08:33
Stskeepsi could still ctrl-alt-f208:33
Stskeeps:P08:33
phaeron Sage: afair some machines had BIOS settings to change that08:34
phaeronI have a machine that need 8s+08:34
Sagephaeron: :nod:08:37
* Sage ponders if it is possible to say to acpid that turnoff after 3s power button press for example.08:37
Sageor maybe we should add shutdown icon?08:37
veskuhSage: I think good place for shutdown would be system ui menu08:40
Sagesounds good to me08:40
Sageveskuh: https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7408:43
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#4053 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/405308:48
Sageprobably easy theming fix: https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7508:52
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#4053 Accepted promotion request08:54
Sagexruxa: http://pastie.org/3171182 seen before?08:57
SageQmBattery is not functional because of a missing compile-time dependency. Please compile QmSystem with bmeipc.08:57
Sagehmmp... we can't probably add that one as bmeipc is prorietary?08:58
Sagemarquiz_: is this only bmeipc freely available http://meego.gitorious.org/meego-device-adaptation/n900_libbme ?09:00
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Sagew00t: QGestureManager::deliverEvent: could not find the target for gesture09:08
Sagew00t: yours?09:08
w00tno09:09
w00tQt09:09
Sageok09:11
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marquiz_Sage: yep09:44
marquiz_Sage: no support for n950, so far :(09:45
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SageStskeeps: o_0 http://pastie.org/3171330 (cc: marquiz_)09:47
Sagecc: veskuh ^09:47
Sageon N900 udevd goes nuts apparently at times :09:47
StskeepsSage: told you09:47
Sage[   48.171417] <13>uxlaunch[1550]: udevadm settle bash returned an error09:48
Sageon wetab I don't get that09:48
Sageveskuh: what does: "dmesg | grep -i udev" print on n950?09:49
SageStskeeps: no wonder if the boot speed increases if I remove the udev settle stuff on N90009:51
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veskuhSage: Nice finding09:52
Stskeeps:nod:09:52
StskeepsSage: this is just a hunch, but it may be related to disk identification09:52
Stskeepsie, checkout the internal mmc09:52
veskuhSage: Prints nothing09:55
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* Stskeeps -finally- starts benchmark of 320 packages10:01
Stskeepsscience is hard ;(10:02
dcthangwhy you say that?:P10:04
Stskeepsjust have to set up an experiment properly can be a bit of a drag at times10:04
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niqtmorn, is today new nemo release?10:22
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Sageveskuh: hmmp... might be that you need to do it after reboot10:34
veskuhI did it quite quickly after reboot10:35
Sagethat is odd...10:38
Sagethere should be at least [    3.609736] udevd[73]: starting version 17210:38
veskuhwell, maybe its full I have plenty of connmand lines there10:41
* Stskeeps takes a look at no pin-query bug10:45
Stskeepsnow, where is my .dk simcard..10:45
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Stskeeps[  102.589447] <27>ofonod[500]: Querying PIN authentication state failed11:11
Stskeeps[  102.595855] <30>ofonod[500]: ofonod[500]: Querying PIN authentication state failed11:11
Stskeepshmm11:11
Stskeepsit did ask me for pin though11:11
Sagepah, newer udev requires util-linux 2.2011:18
Sageftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/util-linux/v2.20/ ? :)11:19
Sageis it just me or is that dir empty?11:20
Sageand other dirs there as well11:20
Stskeepsftp://ftp.infradead.org/pub/util-linux/v2.20/11:20
Sageah, thx11:21
Stskeepsveskuh: hmm, just saw something that may be related to tearing11:21
Stskeeps[  662.047332] panel-nokia-dsi display0: warning, slow update: p01(12084) p12(10070) p23(10772) p34(14923)11:21
xruxaSage: https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=72 - wasn't there also shutdown image missing, or are those the same?11:23
Stskeepsveskuh: PMO bugzilla sounds a lot like our tearing issue, 23023111:25
Stskeepskernel versions match and all11:25
Sagexruxa: yes, but not sure if that is the same or not11:25
Sagexruxa: also this might be missing asset http://pastie.org/317118211:25
* xruxa testing the boot logo then11:26
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veskuhStskeeps: that might be it as the tearing seems to be about midway of the screen11:35
Stskeepsveskuh: moving n950 to newest public kernel, hopefully that should solve it..11:36
veskuhStskeeps: Nope, our kernel already includes the fix11:39
Stskeepsveskuh: read further down11:39
veskuh:)11:39
veskuhyep, you are right, the final fix is not yet in our kernel11:41
xruxaAnyone using our Contacts app on the device?11:42
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xruxaSage: tried to fix that missing icon-s-common-remove-inverse in control panel, new theme in Project:MTF:UX, dunno how to test11:43
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veskuhStskeeps: actually, i'm confused. I think we have that. I mean should be fixed in 2.6.32-20111506 and according to my debian/changelog we got newer than that11:46
veskuhso confusing to see harmattan package version strings as format seems to be <year><week><build> or something11:48
Stskeepskernel_2.6.32-20112201+0m6.tar.gz11:49
Stskeepsurgh11:49
Stskeepsyou're right, that really ought to be fixed in that11:49
Sagexruxa: ok, I have no idea where that icon was :)11:53
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veskuhStskeeps: trying if fall release had this11:58
Sagew00t: http://pastie.org/3171881 <- qt bug?11:59
* w00t clicks11:59
Sagefinally got core from the systemui crash11:59
w00tuhh.11:59
w00tI'd *guess* it's probably something that systemui is doing wrong12:00
w00twalk me through the problem?12:00
Sagesystemui crashes suddently :)12:00
Sageno idea how to reprocude12:00
w00ton where? n900?12:01
Sagethis is on wetab12:01
w00tand how suddenly is suddenly? right after bootup?12:01
Sagejust while using the device12:01
w00thrm12:01
Sagedoing stuff12:01
veskuhHappens occasionally on n950 also12:02
Sagehttp://pastie.org/317189912:02
Sagew00t: ^ another one12:02
w00tsimilar cause12:03
* w00t tries to ask someone smarter with X12:03
Sagew00t: and yet another http://pastie.org/317190712:04
Sagehave been using the device whole day and now noted those cores :P12:04
w00t*nod*12:05
Sageso no idea where or when those happen12:05
Sagexruxa: MThemeDaemon:     The requested pixmap "icon-s-common-remove-inverse" was not found for client "duicontrolpanel"12:05
Sagexruxa: ^ it was that one right?12:05
Sagexruxa: settings->Battery->Battery and then it prints that to .xsession-errors12:06
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veskuhStskeeps:  Fall release had the issue already12:10
Stskeepsok12:10
veskuhchecking the oldest n950 image I can find next12:11
Sagew00t: this one of the three at least occurs when calling reboot from terminal http://pastie.org/317188112:12
w00tthey're all the same cause by the looks of it12:13
Sageok12:14
Sagehttps://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=76 <-tumbler crashes on wallpaper applet12:21
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w00ti'd guess the .xsession-errors text is probably unrelated12:24
w00tthose are (until qt 5) always pointlessly printed even though they're mostly useless12:24
Sageveskuh: umm... have you checked the Settings->Personalize->Alert tones ever?12:30
veskuhdon't think so12:30
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SageJust noted that there are alerttone options for different things12:31
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SageQFileSystemWatcher: failed to add paths: ring-4.wav12:31
Sage^ and the paths are invalid by default it seems12:31
veskuhYep, there is bunch of things under control panel that are not working12:32
Sageyes12:33
Sagemainly wondering how far are different things from working12:33
SageI'm quite pleased to the current functionality of nemo on wetab12:41
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Stskeeps:nod:12:44
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Sageveskuh: is the issue so bad on N950 as well https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=77 (cc: araujo)12:46
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veskuhyep, the same issue. On n950 obviously you see less of the content from the sides12:47
veskuhbecuse there it is just ~25 pix on each side where you see the content12:48
Sageis the issue, on maliit, meegot-terminal or in keyboard layout?12:49
SageI think though that maliit should just move screen up even if the keyboard isn't full width12:50
veskuhThat's actually good question. Bug or feature..12:50
Sagemaybe araujo can tell us :)12:50
veskuhIn some cases you want VKB to overlap with content. In case of terminal you would not want that.12:50
veskuhBut if we stretch the vkb layout to fill the width then maliit correctly tells to terminal that available screen size is smaller12:51
Sagecan I config the vkb without recompile?12:51
veskuhyes, see the other vkb bug12:52
veskuhhttps://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5612:52
veskuhfile to edit is KeyboardUiConstants.js it is somewhere under /usr/share/maliit/ I think12:53
Sagecan't that be just * :)12:54
Sageok, after changing to 1366 it works fine12:56
Sageveskuh, xruxa: any patches from you still coming? ( xruxa I'm pushing the theme forward now )13:24
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#4055 Rejected promotion request13:24
veskuhSage: Not from me13:24
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#4056 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/405613:28
Sageafter that is accepted I'll create images then13:29
veskuhStskeeps:  No tearing in DE.2011-08-29.1 regression happened between it and Fall Release13:32
Stskeepsok13:33
araujoSage, veskuh I am guessing that is only happening with meego-terminal and not other apps in the N950/ExoPc? ... by the way, it works fine in the N900 , ... now it is interesting to see it works changing the width , .. can you guys please report a bug in bugs.maliit.org ? :)13:34
SageIRC client works fine even with 800 on exopc13:37
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araujoSage, probably testing with other meegotouch application?13:41
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#4056 Accepted promotion request13:47
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Sageveskuh: if we would install meegotouch-feedbackd and meegotouch-feedbackreactionmaps would we get haptic feedback?13:49
Stskeepsngfd?13:49
Sagewe have ngfd (well old version)13:49
veskuhSage: No, we do not have the backend13:49
Sagewhat is the backend?13:49
veskuhit's imersion haptics driver13:49
SageI though ngfd is the backend for all of thsoe13:49
Sagebut that driver is device specific thing?13:51
veskuhI think so yes.13:52
veskuhhavign basic vibra supported should be possible13:52
veskuhLooks like ngfd has plugin based architecture, so having vibra plugin there should be possible. So I assume that internally harmattan has immersion plugin for ngfd13:54
SageWe had some vibra on N900 and MeeGo already at some point right?14:01
Stskeepsdon't think so14:01
Sageok, so just me dreaming :)14:01
Sageand with that I meant that kernel is there and vibra worked by echoing something to somewhere14:02
Stskeepsyes, that is more likely14:02
veskuhYep, I remember one guy wanting to add support for it to Qt Mobility, but that probably did not happen14:05
SageI recall some talks about that at some point but well that was quite short talk way back14:05
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* Sage ponders when xruxa starts hating him14:21
Sagexruxa: some missing assets http://pastie.org/317249814:21
Sage:)14:21
Sagexruxa: and some more http://pastie.org/3172538 :)14:33
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sage-nemo-wetab\o/14:42
veskuhNice :)14:42
Sagehttp://sage.kapsi.fi/Mer/tmp/20120112-164250.png :D14:43
Sageone might think it is hard to use ;)14:44
veskuhAh, the famous maliit dance :)14:44
Sagearaujo: ^14:44
Sagethat is with 800 pixel width btw14:44
veskuhI guess we will need to take a look at terminal sources before filing bug to maliit14:45
Stskeepsthis happens in browser too14:46
Sagethat "dance" happens in every app that uses maliit14:46
Sageand the dance just gets worse :P14:47
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araujoSage, yeah, known bug: https://bugs.maliit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1814:48
Sagehttp://sage.kapsi.fi/Mer/tmp/20120112-164807.png :D14:48
Sagecouple of app changes later :)14:49
araujoSage, please comment in that bug, adding these screenies too if you want14:50
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Sagearaujo: commented15:04
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Sagewhere it the limitation of 12 icons in home screen?15:08
Sagetried to add 13 icons to launcherbuttons.data but still not working so there is somekind of hard limit somewhere I guess15:10
Sagehttps://meego.gitorious.org/meegotouch/meegotouch-home/blobs/master/src/libmeegotouchhome/launcherpagemodel.h#line40 hmmp15:16
veskuhYep, after strategy change scalability to different screen sizes has not been high on agenda.15:17
Stskeepsdidn't we use to have patches for this?15:18
SageStskeeps: we patched similar thing but not this15:20
Sagewe had too many icons at some point :)15:20
Sagen900 can only fit 10 at some point :)15:20
Sageor somethign like that15:21
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Sageah, there are functions to change the page size but well those are not called thus it uses the default 1215:21
Stskeepsheh15:22
xruxalets not forget this is handset UI, not tablet, not netbook ;)15:22
Stskeepsit functions fairly nicely for tablet ux, really15:24
w00tindeed15:25
w00tand i don't mind it on netbook either ;)15:25
xruxaSo did WebOS, was cause for fragmentation of apps15:25
Sagehmmp http://pastie.org/317278415:27
xruxaSage: could that be my mad scripting skillz?15:28
Sagexruxa: probably :)15:28
xruxaIIRC I first check if those GConf keys are set, and if not I write them15:29
Sageok, well the output should be supressed15:29
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timophthis weeks build seems to have better perf than last weeks18:34
Stskeepsnew toolchain, too18:34
Stskeepssome upgrades18:34
timophno factual data to back that claim but it feels a bit snappier18:35
Stskeeps:nod:18:35
Stskeepshopefully next one should help a bit too18:35
timophthat blinking battery loading symbol is a bit weird18:36
Stskeepsfinal qt4.8.0, qtwebkit 2.2, gnu hash style for symbols18:36
timophnice18:36
timophhmmh, now the charging animation stopped18:39
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timophcamera takes a bit blueish pics18:50
Stskeepsn900 or n950?18:50
timophn90018:50
* haltdef flibbles Stskeeps18:51
haltdefstalky stalky18:51
Stskeepslo haltdef18:51
Stskeepsi'm not stalking, i belong here!18:51
Stskeeps:P18:51
haltdefI'm stalking18:51
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w00tas always18:52
haltdefhai18:52
w00t:P18:52
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timophhttp://timoph.fi/nemo-n900-testpic.jpg18:56
timoph"a bit" blueish :p18:57
Stskeepsthat's quite blueish18:57
timophbelieve or not that cat is mainly white in real life :)18:57
Stskeepssmurfcat18:57
timoph:)18:57
anYcin the maemo forums, someone said that some additional colorization is caused by the blue color beneath the lense18:58
Stskeepsyeah, but this looks like a software error18:59
SageStskeeps: hope that polkit update gets in so we get couple of M more free mem :)19:02
Stskeeps:nod:19:02
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Stskeepsi'll review it again, sec..19:02
Stskeepssaw my numbers on debug symbols earlier?19:03
Sageyes19:03
timophany idea what causes that graphics glitch with the battery charging animation19:03
Sagetimoph: libmeegotouch bug19:03
Sageit is in upstream as well19:03
timophack19:03
Sageit happens everywhere on the image at times19:03
StskeepsSage: started to review19:05
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Free-MGmy test photo with nemo mobile (N900) , everything white, or? http://h11.abload.de/img/n900-nemolnk36.jpg19:09
timoph-nemohuh this woke up19:11
StskeepsFree-MG: still looks a bit blueish19:12
Sagesadly there isn't much we can do to the camera without internal help :/19:14
Stskeepsstill, we shouldn't have regressed19:14
Sagewas it better at some point?19:14
Stskeepsi think so19:14
Stskeepsit wasn't totally blue, like in timoph's picture19:15
Sagetrue, but that seems like flash and in pretty dark taken19:15
SageI've taken pics only in good light19:16
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Free-MGThe Photo Viewer generate not a preview, a bug? or only for my n900?19:19
timophseems to take a while19:20
timophnot calling it yet :)19:20
timophI'll let it think for a while19:21
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timophok. the photo viewer doesn't show pics19:56
timoph(forgot that I left it running)19:56
timophslide show works though19:57
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Free-MGtimoph: can i publish the n900 testfoto with your blue cat? :)20:13
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Sagetimoph: did you try to rotate the device? At least at some point there was a bug where you needed to rotate the device so it shows previews :P20:19
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Free-MGhttps://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2722:04
Free-MGsince 2011-11-25 from Vesa-Matti Hartikainen22:05
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SageFree-MG: ;)22:12
Sagetime to sleep I guess. Good night all.22:13
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xruxaw00t: I need you to implement avatar path saving in libeaside, it is stubbed :(22:41
w00thmmm22:42
w00tis it?22:42
w00tok, remind me tomorrow and i'll see if i can find some time then22:42
arcolI got my hand on an n9 to try out22:43
xruxayou do not want me to code that (tm)22:43
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arcolThe hardware is beautiful, but the software sucks big time. Its laggish, and could not launch a terminal or file browser. Was not able to reflow text (impossible to read license information), not able to view files with webbrowser. Ie, it was pretty much any average crippled down dumbphone22:44
arcolbut the hardware looks beautiful22:44
xruxaarcol: I feel the other way round, HW sucks, SW rocks22:45
arcolalso the gestures seems buggy too, many times I scrolled the app, accidentally minimized (task switcher) or closed (scrolling up)22:45
xruxaday does not pass by without me thinking "If only I could put this SW on my wife's Android" :)22:45
arcolis there webbrowser text reflow supported?22:46
xruxanot even sure what that is :)22:46
arcolalso quite dumb decision, to not ship with any .html file. So I could not test the webbrowser, as I had no internet connection22:46
arcolxruxa: text reflow == no need to horizontally scrolling to read text (read a paragraph)22:47
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arcolie. you zoom in, what you wanne read, and you double click on it, and the paragraph reflowed so only vertical scrolling is necessary to read the text22:48
arcolif not, you constantly zoom in/zoom out, and pan horizontally with your fingers22:48
arcolpretty much useless22:48
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* xruxa would test, but has his feet on table and the phone is like 5 meters away !!!22:49
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xruxaw00t: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/42376952/Contacts-01-new.png and http://dl.dropbox.com/u/42376952/Contacts-02-view.png and http://dl.dropbox.com/u/42376952/Contacts-03-avatar.png22:53
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xruxaarcol: seems to have that text reflow if you want to know22:54
arcolxruxa: nice!22:55
arcoland how can I open a file browser or a terminal?22:55
xruxaterm will install if you enable SDK mode in Settings->Security IIRC, but that works only with connectivity!22:55
arcolcan I browse files with the webbrowser? (file:/// with uris)22:57
xruxaaraujo: no, as far as I can see22:57
w00txruxa: <3!22:57
w00tthe pixellated avatar on http://dl.dropbox.com/u/42376952/Contacts-02-view.png is not quite so beautiful, but it's a great stride22:58
w00talso, the phone numbers seem to be lacking vertical alignment in the same shot22:58
w00tbut that's amazing, i like it22:58
xruxaw00t: yeah, still lot to do ...22:59
xruxaI have penciled down a list of issues, about half of A4 page22:59
* xruxa wants to use his N900 as normal phone for FOSDEM, with new Contacts and SMS. No pressure.23:01
w00thaha23:02
w00twell, it's an interesting goal23:02
Venemo_xruxa, with Nemo?23:05
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xruxaVenemo: you have doubt? ;)23:06
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Venemoxruxa, no, I'm wishing you the best luck! :)23:06
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xruxasleep mode on23:09
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w00tditto23:10
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Venemosleep weel guys :)23:17
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