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| veskuh | Sage: Tested new TwimGo. Works and works better than older. | 07:56 |
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| veskuh | Sage: No portrait mode though (the older did not have that either). TwimGo on Harmattan has it, and latest Kasvopus has it too. xruxa probably did something to enable it on Kasvopus. | 07:57 |
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| Sage | veskuh: ok | 07:59 |
| Sage | veskuh: but it is safe to submit as it is atm. | 07:59 |
| veskuh | Yes | 07:59 |
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| Sage | 09:57.02 < veskuh> Sage: No portrait mode though (the older did not have that either). TwimGo on Harmattan has it, and latest Kasvopus has it too. xruxa probably did something to enable it on Kasvopus. | 08:00 |
| Sage | xruxa: ^ | 08:00 |
| xruxa | Sage: I patched Kasvopus | 08:01 |
| Sage | ah, ok | 08:01 |
| xruxa | it is on OSC, can't find it now | 08:01 |
| Sage | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=xruxa_orientation_fix.patch&package=kasvopus&project=CE%3AApps&srcmd5=03917b1117028b15d110b30cd115d628 | 08:02 |
| xruxa | Sage: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=xruxa_orientation_fix.patch&package=kasvopus&project=CE%3AApps&srcmd5=03917b1117028b15d110b30cd115d628 | 08:02 |
| * Sage was first :) | 08:02 | |
| xruxa | lol, that was split second | 08:02 |
| Sage | xruxa: umm... that patch seem to have a lot of duplicated lines | 08:03 |
| xruxa | Sage: actually, the patch just uncomments bits in the upstream code | 08:03 |
| xruxa | Sage: what app was veskuh reporting that missing orientation support for? | 08:04 |
| veskuh | twimgo | 08:04 |
| veskuh | It has it on Harmattan and it should be very similiar in code logic as both or from same author | 08:04 |
| xruxa | Sage: yes, exactly the same patch is needed: http://projects.developer.nokia.com/twimgo/browser/qml/TwimGo/main.qml | 08:05 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#4042 Accepted promotion request | 08:07 |
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| niqt | morn | 08:17 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#4043 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/4043 | 08:46 |
| Sage | veskuh: I have to reject your change btw :) | 08:47 |
| veskuh | Ok, what do I need to fix? | 08:47 |
| Sage | didn't notice at the first time but you forgot to edit kernel.spec.in and add patch there and run make | 08:47 |
| Sage | err... no | 08:48 |
| veskuh | I'm not sure if I can do that | 08:48 |
| Sage | you need to edit series file and run make | 08:48 |
| veskuh | Ok | 08:48 |
| * Sage hates that old kernel packaging | 08:48 | |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#4043 Rejected promotion request | 09:02 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: I'll test the touch screen fix I got wetab on my hands for a moment. | 09:03 |
| Stskeeps | k | 09:03 |
| Sage | http://pastie.org/3165069 :/ | 09:05 |
| Sage | ok, cause for random issue with theming on images | 09:05 |
| Stskeeps | ugh | 09:05 |
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| Sage | hmmp.... Stskeeps did the fix for touch work for you? | 09:29 |
| Stskeeps | i can test it now if you want me to, sec | 09:29 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: and should it work on wetab as well as exopc? | 09:29 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 09:29 |
| Stskeeps | i thinkit's same screen | 09:29 |
| Sage | something went wrong in my wetab then I guess | 09:29 |
| * Sage checks if he installed right package | 09:30 | |
| Sage | grr... mic picked wrong package :/ | 09:31 |
| * Sage reboots | 09:32 | |
| * veskuh hates OBS | 09:33 | |
| Sage | ok, seems to work | 09:33 |
| Sage | btw, is there sensor in exopc/wetab? | 09:34 |
| Stskeeps | there's accelerometer and ALS | 09:34 |
| Stskeeps | at least | 09:34 |
| Sage | http://pastie.org/3165173 | 09:39 |
| Sage | from wetab | 09:39 |
| Stskeeps | probably lacking a config | 09:39 |
| Sage | yes | 09:39 |
| Sage | ah, found it | 09:40 |
| Sage | grr.. doesnt' compile :) | 09:50 |
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| Sage | oh, crap. Our sensor fw is 0.7.x and harmattan is forking in 0.6.x :) | 09:52 |
| Stskeeps | ours was actually adjusted for meego, though | 09:53 |
| Sage | well, mainly meant that those will probably never merge to same upstream :) | 09:54 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 09:54 |
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| Sage | hmmp... doesn't work out of the box at least by changing configs | 10:06 |
| Stskeeps | i wonder what tizen does for accelerometers | 10:07 |
| * Stskeeps looks | 10:07 | |
| slaine | I saw mention of a sensor framework, but I don't know if it's implemented | 10:08 |
| slaine | Was also telling that all the Intel demo's at CES where using Android 2.3 | 10:08 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#4045 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/4045 | 10:22 |
| Stskeeps | tizen has a sensor framework , libraries, but the server side isn't public yet | 10:25 |
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| Sage | 2012-01-11 14:12:07 [sensord] *WARNING* [sysfsadaptor.cpp:487:virtual void SysfsAdaptor::init()]: No sysfs path defined for: als | 11:00 |
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| Sage | ^ Kernel option missing? | 11:00 |
| Sage | ALS = Ambien Light Sensor? | 11:02 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#4045 Accepted promotion request | 11:06 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 11:06 |
| Sage | hmmp... meego 1.2 is using sensorfw 0.6.x series same as harmatta | 11:08 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#4046 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/4046 | 11:25 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#4046 Accepted promotion request | 11:27 |
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| Sage | Invoker crashes at times it seems (maybe when application crashes?) http://pastie.org/3165632 (cc: w00t) | 11:44 |
| * w00t looks | 11:44 | |
| w00t | huh | 11:44 |
| w00t | that doesn't look like it's crashed | 11:44 |
| w00t | what does "t a a bt" give you? | 11:45 |
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| Sage | gives the same | 11:49 |
| Sage | it is controlpanel crash on exopc when clicking grps APN | 11:50 |
| Sage | but invoker throws a core as well | 11:50 |
| * Sage is trying to catch the systemui crash | 11:50 | |
| Sage | HelpButton: userguide service unavailable | 11:51 |
| Sage | that is proprietary right? ^ | 11:51 |
| veskuh | Probably, yes. At least I never remeber any discussion about that before. | 11:55 |
| Sage | xruxa: could of translations missing: qtn_rset_clear_down and qtn_rset_wait for reset application. | 11:56 |
| Sage | s/could/couple of/ | 11:56 |
| xruxa | Sage: where does it show? | 11:57 |
| Sage | a moment, need first to fix one package to get it showing :) | 11:58 |
| Sage | xruxa: http://pastie.org/3165695 and then go Settings->Applications->Clean device | 12:04 |
| Sage | need to disable that aegis check anyway as we dont' have it and some apps might use that | 12:04 |
| xruxa | so, I reckon this is coming from the new clean devioce applet, where is it in git? | 12:05 |
| Sage | xruxa: https://meego.gitorious.org/meegotouch/clean-device | 12:08 |
| Sage | ah, clean-device needs mce as well | 12:10 |
| Sage | btw, I like how fast the wetab reboots :) | 12:12 |
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| Stskeeps | i was shocked how fast my x86 htpc turned off with mer | 12:12 |
| Sage | MAssembly: Stylesheet missing "/usr/share/themes/base/meegotouch/componentcache_pre_initialized_mapplication/style/componentcache_pre_initialized_mapplication.css" | 12:13 |
| Sage | xruxa: ^ seen before? | 12:13 |
| xruxa | Sage: nope | 12:13 |
| Sage | Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name com.nokia.devicelock was not provided by any .service files | 12:15 |
| Sage | veskuh: ^ what is devicelock service? | 12:15 |
| veskuh | Probably the password query that n9 has | 12:16 |
| Sage | [ 177.959877] mce[484]: mce: modules/displaymeego.c:devlock_inhibit_reply_dbus_cb(): D-Bus call to com.nokia.devicelock.setState failed: The name com.nokia.devicelock was not provided by any .service files | 12:17 |
| veskuh | yep, so if it is enabled when you unlock screen it queries for password | 12:17 |
| Sage | ok, that is proprietary as well, right? | 12:18 |
| veskuh | yep, or at least ui is | 12:18 |
| Sage | on exopc Xorg pid is 502 and on N900 1570 :) | 12:21 |
| Stskeeps | API can probably be implemented, but secure storage of PIN is a bit more difficult | 12:21 |
| Sage | maybe we should have just a dummy thing that would return disabled or something always | 12:22 |
| Sage | but anyway, imo that 1000 processes difference between i586 and n900 adaptation sounds very bad | 12:22 |
| Stskeeps | right | 12:23 |
| w00t | 1000 processes? O.o | 12:23 |
| Stskeeps | w00t: 1000 that had been launched during bootup | 12:23 |
| w00t | wtf | 12:23 |
| Stskeeps | it's a nice simple metric | 12:23 |
| Sage | I would really like to know where those 1000 are, it has to be in our adaptation as the UX and apps are the same | 12:24 |
| Stskeeps | i think in nokia-n900-configs | 12:24 |
| veskuh | are you sure both start from 0 ? | 12:25 |
| veskuh | ah seems so | 12:25 |
| veskuh | according to top I have plenty <1000 on n950 | 12:26 |
| Sage | veskuh: can you check what pid Xorg has on N950 | 12:26 |
| veskuh | Sage: at the moment 617 | 12:27 |
| Sage | o_0 | 12:27 |
| Sage | wow | 12:27 |
| Sage | removed nokia-n900-configs and got Xorg with pid 1583 | 12:27 |
| Stskeeps | hmm :P | 12:28 |
| Sage | so I would say it is not that | 12:28 |
| Sage | also if n950 has 617 then it is not sgx | 12:28 |
| Sage | there is a bit variation in those | 12:28 |
| Sage | so what else there is difference :) | 12:28 |
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| veskuh | Sage: my ps -xa http://pastie.org/3165791 | 12:30 |
| Sage | N900: http://pastie.org/3165790 , Wetab: http://pastie.org/3165792 | 12:30 |
| Sage | veskuh: that is what I would expect on n900 as well | 12:30 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: ideas? :) | 12:33 |
| veskuh | there is quite a jump after 538 on n900 | 12:33 |
| veskuh | systemd-stdout-syslog-bridge | 12:33 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: bootchart ish? | 12:33 |
| Sage | yes, but already before that the numbers go high quite quickly | 12:33 |
| Sage | [] are kernel processes, right? | 12:34 |
| veskuh | looks like yes | 12:34 |
| veskuh | but still I would not worry too much about it unless there are clear facts that it makes real difference in boot | 12:36 |
| fw190 | grrrr everytime I see the N950 virus I get more angry at Nokia ;) | 12:37 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: ah.. | 12:37 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: ? | 12:37 |
| Stskeeps | udev spawns a shitload of processes | 12:38 |
| Stskeeps | i saw this with markus at some point | 12:38 |
| Sage | any reason for this? | 12:40 |
| Sage | can I boot device without udev to try? :) | 12:41 |
| Stskeeps | i doubt it | 12:41 |
| Stskeeps | but you may be able to get a console early enough | 12:41 |
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| Stskeeps | if you boot and log in early enough, you'll see it in ps aux | 12:41 |
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| Sage | umm... where is the latest udev package? :) | 12:43 |
| Sage | ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/ stops around 2005 | 12:43 |
| Sage | but if with same udev we have problems on n900 but not with other is could be kernel issue? | 12:45 |
| Sage | xruxa: http://pastie.org/3165850 not sure where those are but saw in log | 12:46 |
| Stskeeps | i think it may be doing some disk scan stuff | 12:46 |
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| Sage | Unable to enumerate USB devices! | 13:05 |
| Sage | ok, how to solve that problem with flash-3.5 without rebooting the computer | 13:05 |
| Sage | changing usb port helps but well no more new usb ports :) | 13:06 |
| Stskeeps | ask IT for a usb hub | 13:06 |
| Sage | doesn't help | 13:06 |
| Sage | as it is attached to one usb port that already has failed with that | 13:07 |
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| Sage | ok, time to reboot comp then. :/ | 13:09 |
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| Sage | oh, come on already. even reboot and poweroff didn't help | 13:16 |
| Sage | "Kernel panic -not syncing: No init found." <- magnet? | 13:17 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 13:18 |
| Stskeeps | possibly? | 13:18 |
| Sage | nah, just typo in my cmdline. One port seems to work now :) | 13:19 |
| * Sage hates this hp laptop crap | 13:19 | |
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| Sage | pah, didn't get enough debug stuff for bootchart | 13:21 |
| Sage | http://pastie.org/3165993 <- something else needed to get full log? | 13:22 |
| Stskeeps | To look closer at our boot time in ARM/N900 it would be useful if we | 13:22 |
| Stskeeps | could get CONFIG_SCHEDSTATS enabled in our N900 kernel in order to | 13:22 |
| Stskeeps | have bootchart working [1] | 13:22 |
| Stskeeps | README states it might need CONFIG_SCHED_DEBUG too but it doesn't look | 13:22 |
| Stskeeps | enabled in other configs in the MeeGo kernel. | 13:22 |
| Stskeeps | Something that can be enabled? :) | 13:22 |
| Stskeeps | from anold email | 13:22 |
| Sage | I have those both but still not proper log | 13:23 |
| Sage | # CONFIG_BSD_PROCESS_ACCT_V3 is not set | 13:24 |
| the-boss | Sage: Error: "CONFIG_BSD_PROCESS_ACCT_V3" is not a valid command. | 13:24 |
| araujo | mm.. | 13:39 |
| araujo | Sage, which service is the one that registers maliit with systemd? | 13:39 |
| araujo | Sage, I would like to disable it for maliit (just for some testing) | 13:39 |
| Sage | araujo: what do you mean? | 13:39 |
| Sage | I'm guessing you mean /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.maliit.server.service | 13:40 |
| Sage | maliit is started by dbus when someone requests it | 13:40 |
| araujo | Sage, right now maliit is started by systemd in nemo? | 13:40 |
| araujo | mmm | 13:40 |
| araujo | sure about this? | 13:40 |
| Sage | yes | 13:41 |
| Sage | we dont' have systemd service file for maliit | 13:41 |
| Sage | and if we would have it would be in maliit package | 13:41 |
| araujo | I am checking, and I can't find, though I thought you guys started maliit using systemd | 13:41 |
| Sage | let me recheck | 13:43 |
| Sage | ah, we start maliit with uxlaunch | 13:43 |
| Sage | /etc/xdg/autostart/maliit-server.desktop | 13:43 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: no luck with bootchartd | 13:44 |
| araujo | ok, and then form there on ... takes it dbus, .... ok, thought it was systemd, thanks Sage | 13:45 |
| Sage | some option is missing but that is not mentioned in bootchartd docs | 13:45 |
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| xruxa | Sage: I won't get to those missing translations and graphics, filled as Nemo bugs #72 and #73 | 14:04 |
| Sage | you don't? | 14:06 |
| Sage | can't reproduce you mean? | 14:06 |
| Sage | xruxa: did you do this: http://pastie.org/3165695 | 14:06 |
| Sage | on device before starting the reset thing | 14:06 |
| Mirv | was there any apps for Nemo Mobile yet written using qt components? | 14:07 |
| xruxa | Sage: I could repro, I see those strings missing in translations, just will have time later | 14:07 |
| Sage | xruxa: ah, that is ok | 14:07 |
| xruxa | Mirv: we have few apps already in the device with QtComponents | 14:07 |
| Mirv | xruxa: I tried to browse through repos.. which ones? | 14:07 |
| Mirv | I'm kind of interested to just take a look at an example :) | 14:07 |
| xruxa | Mirv: preinstalled e.g. Flickr and Maps | 14:07 |
| Mirv | ah, ok | 14:08 |
| Mirv | I'll find them at least in the obs | 14:08 |
| xruxa | Mirv: there is git too | 14:08 |
| Mirv | xruxa: url? I could add those to wiki which only lists https://github.com/nemomobile etc | 14:09 |
| xruxa | Mirv: https://github.com/jpavelek/flickr-qml or https://github.com/dubik/meego-handset-maps | 14:09 |
| Mirv | xruxa: thanks | 14:10 |
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| veskuh | Sage: Just noticed, that while everything seems to work with new polkit I get errors on dmesg while doing upower -d | 14:55 |
| veskuh | Sage: http://pastie.org/3166461 | 14:56 |
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| Sage | veskuh: what upower version that is? | 15:43 |
| veskuh | I did not update it, so the one on the release | 15:43 |
| Sage | ok | 15:44 |
| Sage | http://pastie.org/3166694 | 15:44 |
| Sage | that is upower output with old polkit on wetab | 15:44 |
| Sage | I'll update the polkit and see if that changes | 15:44 |
| Sage | same status http://pastie.org/3166702 | 15:46 |
| Sage | so polkit seems ok on i586 at least | 15:46 |
| veskuh | yep, I think polkit is only guarding access to upower (the dbus api), upower itself gets the values directly from kernel/sysfs | 15:47 |
| Sage | http://pastie.org/3166710 and newer upower seems to add can-suspend to yes and add is-docked option | 15:48 |
| Sage | so to me it seems that upower is ok as well it is only n950 kernel that has problems | 15:49 |
| Sage | http://pastie.org/3166723 | 15:49 |
| veskuh | yep, you can check directly from filesystem what kernel is reporting. stuff is under /sys/class/power | 15:54 |
| veskuh | sry, /sys/class/power_supply | 15:55 |
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| Sage | ok, mce seems to dimm the display at times on exopc and there is no way to do wakeup as power button well shutdowns the device :) | 16:00 |
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| Minos_ | Hello | 18:51 |
| Stskeeps | hello :) | 18:51 |
| Minos_ | Just checking out the IRC client in Nemo | 18:52 |
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| vakkov | http://www.gsmarena.com/screenshots_of_tizen_meego_successor_leak-news-3634.php | 19:02 |
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| vakkov | they say the screenshots are from the Tizen SDK | 19:03 |
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| vakkov | https://developer.tizen.org/sdk.html | 19:05 |
| vakkov | it doesn't show error... installing ubuntu in virtual machine and downloading :D | 19:06 |
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| Minos | What package manager can I use in CLI? | 19:09 |
| Stskeeps | zypper, rpm | 19:09 |
| Minos | thanks | 19:10 |
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| nsuffys | good evening and tomorrow with the weekly release of Nemo +++ | 20:45 |
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| araujo | anybody around willing to help testing something in nemo? :) | 21:58 |
| beford | i'm around | 21:59 |
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| beford_nemo | hi | 23:34 |
| beford_nemo | araujo | 23:35 |
| beford_nemo | ;P | 23:35 |
| araujo | beford_nemo, :D | 23:36 |
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| vgrade | http://blog.qt.nokia.com/2012/01/12/qt-for-phonegap/ | 23:50 |
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