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| Sage | morning | 07:02 |
| w00t | _o/ | 07:02 |
| phaeron | morning | 07:02 |
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| Sage | anything that I should look at atm.? | 07:17 |
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| Sage | Anyone want something todo? :) | 07:18 |
| * w00t eyes http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Backlog | 07:19 | |
| w00t | Sage: is n900_nokia-n900-configs shared with n950? or are they completely seperate | 07:22 |
| Sage | completely separete atm. We should merge the sources probably to nokia-n9xx-configs or something and just generate 2 rpm's | 07:23 |
| w00t | ok.. now to find n950 configs too | 07:23 |
| Sage | that doesn't have git afaik | 07:24 |
| w00t | oh :P | 07:24 |
| Sage | also the n900 git might be outdated badly | 07:24 |
| w00t | .. oh :P | 07:24 |
| w00t | should I just use the package? | 07:24 |
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| Sage | w00t: I'm not picky atm. with that :) | 07:25 |
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| w00t | ok, package it is | 07:26 |
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| Sage | I'll check next week how we should do taht packaging but atm. it is not critical thing | 07:30 |
| w00t | :) | 07:35 |
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| niqt | morning | 07:51 |
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| w00t | niqt: moin | 07:53 |
| niqt | w00t: is necessary that i change file name for qmlcalendar? | 07:54 |
| w00t | file name? | 07:54 |
| niqt | i have meecalendar.qml meexxx.qml | 07:55 |
| w00t | up to you, really, I'd say it's not immediately urgent | 07:56 |
| niqt | ok | 07:56 |
| w00t | Sage: http://qtl.me/Crn.txt look ok? | 07:56 |
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| Sage | w00t: yes | 08:02 |
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| w00t | ok | 08:07 |
| w00t | Sage: | 08:08 |
| w00t | Attention, boss.conf is not mentioned in spec files as source or patch. | 08:08 |
| w00t | Is this correct? [N/y/d] (y to ignore) | 08:08 |
| Sage | you should add boss.conf to Sources: | 08:10 |
| Sage | there might be errors in already accepted packages as the checks have improved | 08:10 |
| Sage | how to get raw patch out of github web interface? | 08:11 |
| Sage | w00t: ` | 08:11 |
| Sage | ah, add .patch to url | 08:12 |
| w00t | yup | 08:12 |
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| w00t | veskuh or anyone: do you mind testing the n900 package? (home:w00t:branches:CE:Adaptation:N900 - nokia-n900-configs) I'll reinstall my n950 and test there | 08:25 |
| w00t | testing should basically consist of installing it, rebooting, and seeing if stuff opens, performance doesn't suddenly go down the toilet, etc | 08:25 |
| veskuh | w00t: yep, I can take a look on n900 | 08:28 |
| w00t | thankyou :) | 08:28 |
| veskuh | np | 08:28 |
| veskuh | w00t: the pacakges are not published | 08:37 |
| w00t | veskuh: *facepalm* | 08:37 |
| w00t | second | 08:37 |
| w00t | fixed | 08:37 |
| veskuh | yep, I see it now | 08:38 |
| veskuh | w00t: http://pastebin.com/Tt4Mtys2 | 08:40 |
| w00t | er.. | 08:41 |
| w00t | that's interesting | 08:41 |
| w00t | Sage: ^ ever seen that? | 08:41 |
| Sage | yes, well our .service files need fixes :) | 08:44 |
| w00t | configs should be seperate from that, shouldn't it? | 08:44 |
| Sage | we don't have proper service stop cmds there | 08:44 |
| Sage | nokia-n900-configs contain one .service file that loads some configs to kernel | 08:45 |
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| Sage | so that fails to stop apparently in some case | 08:45 |
| Sage | in general that shouldn't matter and should be ok after a reboot | 08:45 |
| veskuh | ok, booting the device | 08:46 |
| Sage | _/g 20 | 08:46 |
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| veskuh | w00t: everything seems to be working, but graphics performance seem to have suffered. I get 20-30fps scrolling on lists in widgetsgallery and it used to be between 30-60 earlier. home and system ui also feel slower. | 08:55 |
| w00t | uh | 08:55 |
| w00t | can you ssh in? | 08:55 |
| veskuh | yep | 08:55 |
| w00t | start widgetsgallery for me, leave it in the foreground | 08:55 |
| w00t | then from ssh | 08:55 |
| w00t | cat /proc/$(pidof widgetsgallery)/smaps | grep -i pvr | 08:55 |
| w00t | try | grep -i gl, too, I always forget what shows up | 08:56 |
| * xruxa has been bubbling a bit http://dl.dropbox.com/u/42376952/snapshot1.png | 08:57 | |
| w00t | xruxa: :) | 08:57 |
| * xruxa now wondering how slow this is on the device - where is the qmlviewer! | 08:58 | |
| w00t | note that I'll need that in 4 images (one for each border) | 08:58 |
| veskuh | w00t: http://pastebin.com/CDSSJx8q | 08:58 |
| w00t | ok... | 08:58 |
| w00t | veskuh: killall widgetsgallery; export DISPLAY=:0; widgetsgallery | 08:58 |
| w00t | er | 08:59 |
| w00t | sorry | 08:59 |
| w00t | veskuh: killall widgetsgallery; export DISPLAY=:0; widgetsgallery -log-console -output-level debug -show-fps | 08:59 |
| w00t | that'll give you an exact fps count, after a while, swipe it to the background | 08:59 |
| w00t | pastebin debug output for me | 08:59 |
| veskuh | w00t: http://pastebin.com/Uvh8tJCG | 09:03 |
| w00t | veskuh: you haven't updated that image lately, by the looks of it | 09:03 |
| veskuh | last weeks image I think | 09:04 |
| w00t | yeah, new Qt wasn't in that | 09:04 |
| w00t | I think | 09:04 |
| veskuh | w00t: true. new Qt needed? | 09:04 |
| w00t | yes | 09:04 |
| w00t | otherwise you'll get stuck with software rendering, which will indeed be slower :) | 09:05 |
| veskuh | w00t: yes, thats what it feels. | 09:05 |
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| w00t | when you have newer Qt, it'll use hardware rendering when foregrounded, and software in the background, saving resources (like harmattan) | 09:05 |
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| veskuh | hmm.. where is the latest qt.. "No update candidate for 'libqtcore4-4.8.0~rc1-1.1.armv7hl'. The highest available version is already installed." | 09:08 |
| w00t | ehh | 09:09 |
| w00t | it should have been in the new mer release | 09:09 |
| w00t | but for now, you can probably take umm | 09:10 |
| w00t | home:w00t:branches:Mer:fake:Core:i586 | 09:10 |
| w00t | oh, eh | 09:10 |
| w00t | will that include arm.. | 09:10 |
| w00t | apparently it does | 09:11 |
| w00t | (confusing stuff) | 09:11 |
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| w00t | veskuh: ah, it might have to do with /etc/zypp/repos.d not having the latest mer release in the urls... grep merproject /etc/zypp/repos.d/* | 09:22 |
| w00t | if it doesn't have /latest/ in the url, that'd probably be it | 09:22 |
| veskuh | with new qt performance is much better | 09:23 |
| w00t | :) | 09:23 |
| w00t | you should also have more free RAM with apps running | 09:27 |
| w00t | which will be nice | 09:27 |
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| w00t | veskuh: so gets a +1 from you? | 09:44 |
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| veskuh | w00t: yep | 10:13 |
| w00t | :) | 10:14 |
| * w00t SRs n900 config then, waits until he can test n950 one | 10:14 | |
| w00t | Sage: hm.. have you changed nokia-n900-configs this morning? | 10:16 |
| w00t | osc submitrequest diff is showing I removed nokia-n900-configs, which seems ... bizarre | 10:16 |
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| Sage | w00t: no | 10:34 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3201 Rejected promotion request | 10:38 |
| w00t | ugh | 10:39 |
| w00t | fiiine, i'll wait | 10:39 |
| * w00t hits the-boss | 10:39 | |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3202 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/3202 | 10:41 |
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| Sage | https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home%3Asage%3Abranches%3AMer%3Afake%3ACore%3Aarmv7hl | 11:42 |
| Sage | Can someone test if connman from ^ fixes the 3G connection problem? | 11:43 |
| Sage | with N900 at least | 11:43 |
| Sage | possibly with N950 as well if there is problem with that as well | 11:43 |
| Sage | phaeron: SR's 3163, 3191 and 3202 are stuck? | 11:44 |
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| veskuh | Sage: I can take take a look. I'll start with N900. | 11:45 |
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| Sage | veskuh: also checking if the gstreamer and gst-plugins-base from that project breaks anything in video or camera functionality would be nice. | 11:48 |
| veskuh | ok, i'll do that next | 11:50 |
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| Sage | the SR meeting is in 7mins right? | 11:53 |
| veskuh | Yep, SG that is. | 11:55 |
| Sage | .. | 11:55 |
| Sage | ok, moving on :) | 11:55 |
| veskuh | Sage: meego-pinquery does not seem to work with newer connman | 11:59 |
| Sage | hmmp | 12:00 |
| Sage | how can that be affected | 12:00 |
| Sage | veskuh: problem from some other update instead? | 12:00 |
| veskuh | may be, I haven't used sim in n900 for a while. I'll try on n950 | 12:01 |
| faenil | guys is there any way to measure antenna performance? | 12:01 |
| faenil | like something which shows db...or dunno what | 12:02 |
| faenil | want to see if I get any boost by removing aluminium backplate so that I can sell the N9 | 12:02 |
| faenil | otherwise N950 is not usable here... :( | 12:02 |
| faenil | zero signal in most of uni | 12:02 |
| faenil | rooms | 12:02 |
| faenil | I guess there should be something which talks to the signal bar level... | 12:03 |
| faenil | damn gtg... | 12:04 |
| faenil | if you have any idea please leave it here...I'll read the log when I'm back | 12:05 |
| faenil | thanks :) | 12:05 |
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| niqt | is today a meeting? | 12:06 |
| veskuh | Yes | 12:07 |
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| lbt | veskuh: continue in here? | 12:39 |
| veskuh | lbt: well, we can continue | 12:39 |
| lbt | Nemo is kinda supposed to be demonstrating how a company would use Mer | 12:40 |
| lbt | and that includes helping to develop tools/best practice | 12:40 |
| lbt | frankly very few people should care about detailed image names | 12:40 |
| lbt | it's very bikesheddy | 12:41 |
| veskuh | lbt: yes, that is good point, but for me the most important thing is to get it to hands of people. For N900 guys it brings new apps and fun hacking, for N9 it's an open os for it. | 12:42 |
| veskuh | lbt: so I do not really care image name. I just want it to be somehow clear what nemo means and I'm worried if it gets too vague | 12:42 |
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| faenil | back :) | 13:28 |
| Sage | wb | 13:32 |
| w00t | Sage: am I blind? I can't find n950 images | 13:39 |
| Sage | http://repository.maemo.org/meego/Nemo/0.20111112.2.CE.2011-11-17.1/images/nemo-handset-armv7hl-n950-testing/ ? | 13:40 |
| w00t | ... | 13:40 |
| w00t | apparently i am | 13:40 |
| w00t | :P | 13:40 |
| Sage | :) | 13:40 |
| veskuh | Sage: No gprs on 950 with newer connman, wifi works. | 13:44 |
| Sage | does phonecalls etc work? | 13:44 |
| veskuh | pinquery works, will test phone/sms | 13:44 |
| w00t | Sage: you ported the connman patches? | 13:45 |
| Sage | w00t: ported connman patches? | 13:45 |
| w00t | didn't you say the n950 connman patches didn't apply? | 13:45 |
| Sage | n950 ofono | 13:45 |
| w00t | ah | 13:46 |
| Sage | it is simple to fix but I would like someone to push those patches in ofono upstream | 13:46 |
| veskuh | calls work | 13:46 |
| w00t | Sage: *hide* | 13:47 |
| w00t | :P | 13:47 |
| veskuh | can't test sms as I updated libseaside to version where sms does not start... | 13:47 |
| faenil | anybody got an idea on how to get signal strenght value which is sent to the UI and display it somewhere? terminal, or whatever | 13:47 |
| Sage | veskuh: that is ok | 13:48 |
| faenil | network signal strenght | 13:48 |
| w00t | veskuh: sorry! :P | 13:48 |
| w00t | faenil: no clue | 13:48 |
| Sage | faenil: using harmattan? | 13:48 |
| faenil | Sage: doesn't matter... | 13:48 |
| Sage | faenil: well look ofono dbus api there is probably some cmd that can get the strenght | 13:49 |
| faenil | want to know if removing the backplate will make my n950 somehow similar to my N9/N8 as in signal strenght | 13:49 |
| faenil | Sage: ok...thanks :) | 13:49 |
| Sage | hmmp... at times I see on Xorg log something about gnome-screensaver where is that hardcoded? | 13:50 |
| w00t | Sage: uxlaunch or a .desktop file would be my guess | 13:51 |
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| Sage | w00t: bingo, uxlaunch | 13:52 |
| * w00t wins | 13:52 | |
| faenil | Sage: ofono is only working in Nemo right? | 13:52 |
| Sage | https://meego.gitorious.org/meego-os-base/uxlaunch/blobs/master/src/misc.c#line129 | 13:53 |
| Sage | faenil: on n950 on nemo yes | 13:53 |
| faenil | Sage: right, and there's no nemo image for n9 atm right? | 13:53 |
| Sage | faenil: I saw guide somewhere, but can't recall where. Anyway maybe you should go to #harmattan and ask there if there is a away to get the info from there | 13:54 |
| faenil | seems like nobody does :) | 13:55 |
| w00t | Sage: ewww | 13:55 |
| w00t | i wonder if that's why our lockscreen doesn't always work on e.g. lenovo | 13:56 |
| Sage | w00t: talking about hardcoded things :) | 13:56 |
| Sage | might be | 13:56 |
| w00t | Sage: can you add it to my section on Backlog to look at? | 13:56 |
| Sage | sure | 13:56 |
| w00t | thanks | 13:56 |
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| faenil | Sage: will try on n950 only in the meanwhile, with nemo... | 14:01 |
| faenil | thanks anyway :) | 14:01 |
| faenil | *will* try (if my life has some spare time to give me as a gift...) | 14:01 |
| faenil | be back later guys, enjoy :) | 14:02 |
| faenil | oh, one thing, w00t, have you already played with multiple views on opengl? with multiple shared contexts | 14:03 |
| w00t | with what? raw GL? I don't do much of that | 14:04 |
| faenil | or qtopengl | 14:04 |
| w00t | nope | 14:04 |
| faenil | ok, np ;) | 14:04 |
| faenil | gtg, back later ;) bye o/ | 14:04 |
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| veskuh | Sage: upgrading gstreamer and gst-plugins-base and voice in calls stil work. also camera viewfinder still works | 14:18 |
| Sage | ok | 14:19 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: ^ | 14:19 |
| Stskeeps | OK | 14:19 |
| lbt | veskuh: from ages ago: "understood". I think Nemo does need to decide if it is "Ubuntu" - which means it will have variants; or more "one size" ... time will tell | 14:19 |
| lbt | can someone make me an admin on nemo bz | 14:20 |
| lbt | I configured ldap using params - that works now - so you can login using mer bz credentials | 14:20 |
| lbt | I just don't want to hack myself in using sql :) | 14:21 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: ok | 14:21 |
| veskuh | lbt: yep | 14:22 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: done | 14:23 |
| lbt | ta Stskeeps | 14:23 |
| lbt | veskuh: I need a username for you too | 14:23 |
| veskuh | mer wiki? vesku | 14:24 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: did you find a captcha for bz? | 14:24 |
| lbt | veskuh: it'll be for all merproject stuff | 14:24 |
| Stskeeps | no, didn't | 14:24 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: OK - I'll look too | 14:24 |
| veskuh | lbt: ok, then vesku | 14:24 |
| lbt | veskuh: :D | 14:24 |
| lbt | just want to make sure - it's a pita if I assume incorrectly | 14:25 |
| lbt | w00t: same for you ... w00t or something else? | 14:25 |
| w00t | lbt: w00t indeed, please | 14:26 |
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| lbt | Ok - anyone who wants - could you try to login at https://bugs.nemomobile.org/index.cgi using your mer bz credentials | 14:26 |
| lbt | w00t: veskuh you may need a 60s delay as ldap syncs your usernames | 14:27 |
| w00t | :) | 14:27 |
| veskuh | lbt: company firewall is slower than that | 14:27 |
| lbt | :D | 14:28 |
| w00t | login worked for me | 14:30 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: I'll check if I can get the systemd tested better tomorrow, but I still highly doubt that we can get it to next release | 14:35 |
| Sage | anyway g2g now. cya | 14:35 |
| lbt | Sage: when you can, please list the issues with systemd that you know about | 14:37 |
| lbt | w00t: it did? | 14:38 |
| lbt | hmm | 14:38 |
| lbt | I don't see you in the profile DB - I thought it wrote through | 14:38 |
| lbt | yay iekku ... ä in LDAP :) | 14:39 |
| lbt | thanks for the unicode test | 14:39 |
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| arcol | what unicode? űő? | 14:41 |
| arcol | ;-) | 14:41 |
| w00t | lbt: apparently! :P | 14:41 |
| iekku | lbt, who what ? | 14:41 |
| iekku | lbt, my last name? | 14:41 |
| lbt | iekku: yes | 14:41 |
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| iekku | usually that causes problems :D | 14:42 |
| iekku | also, if i try to say my name, it's a problem... even for finns | 14:42 |
| * lbt considers adding an mp3 attribute to LDAP ... finns seem to like that... | 14:43 | |
| iekku | :o | 14:43 |
| lbt | w00t: OK - lets see how it goes then. It's a voyage of buzillian discovery. | 14:46 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3163 Accepted promotion request | 14:50 |
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| veskuh | lbt: account works on both bugzillas, thanks. | 14:55 |
| lbt | veskuh: good. Hmm now you appear in the DB on nemomobile ... w00t doesn't... how odd. | 14:56 |
| lbt | w00t: are you sure you logged on to https://bugs.nemomobile.org/ ? | 14:56 |
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| veskuh | lbt: I did "forgot my password, as that had happened" | 14:57 |
| lbt | veskuh: ah | 14:57 |
| w00t | lbt: ok, erm, it didn't give me an error but didn't log me in either | 14:57 |
| lbt | veskuh: on which bz? | 14:57 |
| veskuh | I did that on mer bugzilla side | 14:57 |
| lbt | veskuh: cool | 14:57 |
| w00t | so i didn't notice i wasn't logged in | 14:57 |
| veskuh | nemo said it does not support it | 14:57 |
| lbt | veskuh: cool - nice check for me | 14:58 |
| lbt | w00t: OK - I blame a glitch in the base setting - it redirected to http for a moment | 14:58 |
| lbt | and I think the cookie was probably dropped in http | 14:58 |
| lbt | w00t: could you try again and I'll track DB - just login | 14:58 |
| w00t | logged in ok | 14:59 |
| lbt | and you're in DB - so that makes a lot of sense | 14:59 |
| lbt | it's like OBS - does a write through to DB when authenticating from ldap for the first time | 14:59 |
| lbt | OK ... gtg... bbiab | 15:00 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3191 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/3191 | 15:00 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3202 Accepted promotion request | 15:00 |
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| phaeron | Sage: unstuck all three. did you check the latest addrepos.py osc plugin ? | 15:02 |
| veskuh | hahaa, got bug number one: https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1 | 15:02 |
| w00t | err... ooh | 15:04 |
| w00t | that's bad | 15:04 |
| w00t | my n950 just rebooted while installing mce | 15:04 |
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| xruxa | veskuh: bad boi! | 15:07 |
| * xruxa has bubble! | 15:07 | |
| w00t | xruxa: you could clone qmlsms and play with inserting it there | 15:07 |
| w00t | it's just raw qml, nothing to build | 15:07 |
| xruxa | w00t: maybe in future, it does only the right-handed one so far http://dl.dropbox.com/u/42376952/snapshot1.png | 15:08 |
| w00t | :) | 15:09 |
| w00t | is that actually QML? | 15:09 |
| w00t | or just a hard-coded image | 15:09 |
| xruxa | https://github.com/jpavelek/playground - 9-patch scaled QML implementation | 15:09 |
| xruxa | anyone remembers what package has the qmlviewer ? would like to check it on N900 | 15:10 |
| w00t | qt-qmlviewer | 15:11 |
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| matrixx | xruxa: nice looking bubble you have! | 15:12 |
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| w00t | xruxa: technically, you could do a left-facing bubble by just flipping the direction of the bottom images | 15:13 |
| w00t | bit of a hack, but hey, life's always fun | 15:13 |
| xruxa | w00t: I will do that but I want to see if this kind of implementation sucks performance-wise or not | 15:13 |
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| w00t | yeah :) | 15:14 |
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| w00t | there, n950 probably recovered | 15:15 |
| w00t | now let's get back to testing that graphicssystem hack | 15:15 |
| * xruxa swears as the SW forgot his WEP key again. WTF, SW update should not do that! | 15:15 | |
| w00t | xruxa: the weird thing is, my lenovo never forgets it | 15:16 |
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| w00t | Stskeeps: are you completely sure that the mer upgrade worked ok? I apparently have Qt 4.8.0~rc1-1.1, yet it doesn't seem to be working as I'd expect | 15:32 |
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| w00t | Stskeeps: http://qtl.me/oqw.txt - that's the behaviour i would have expected before my patch adding QT_DEFAULT_RUNTIME_SYSTEM.. | 15:36 |
| Stskeeps | rpm -q --changelog qt | 15:36 |
| w00t | bah.. what's a name of a non-metapackage there | 15:37 |
| w00t | ok, got it.. | 15:37 |
| w00t | [meego@localhost ~]$ rpm -q --changelog libqtgui4 | head -n10 | 15:38 |
| w00t | * Wed Nov 09 2011 Carsten Munk <carsten@maemo.org> - 4.8.0~rc1 | 15:38 |
| w00t | - Upgrade to Qt 4.8.0-rc1, drop qvfb and update xinput2 patch | 15:38 |
| w00t | yeah, err, that doesn't look upgraded | 15:38 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 15:38 |
| Stskeeps | is it qt 1.1 in mer repos too? | 15:38 |
| w00t | I don't know how to deal with checking this stuff | 15:39 |
| w00t | my repo points to /latest/, it's zypper ref'd and zypper up'd | 15:40 |
| w00t | so I'd assume so | 15:40 |
| Stskeeps | not good, could you check? | 15:40 |
| Stskeeps | i know there's a bug with fakeobs possibly.. | 15:40 |
| w00t | libqtcore4-4.8.0~rc1-1.1.armv7hl.rpm 12-Nov-2011 09:43 2.6M | 15:41 |
| w00t | that's from http://releases.merproject.org/releases/latest/builds/armv7hl/packages/armv7hl/ | 15:41 |
| Stskeeps | hm | 15:41 |
| w00t | (so I don't think it's OBS) | 15:41 |
| Stskeeps | you're right, that looks screwed | 15:41 |
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| w00t | the problem looks like it's /latest/ being fucked | 15:42 |
| w00t | libqtgui4-4.8.0~rc1-1.2.armv7hl.rpm 20-Nov-2011 13:40 4.1M | 15:42 |
| w00t | that's from http://releases.merproject.org/releases/0.20111120.1/builds/armv7hl/packages/armv7hl/ | 15:42 |
| Stskeeps | sigh.. | 15:42 |
| Stskeeps | ok, looking | 15:42 |
| * Stskeeps told people latest/ would be a problem ;) | 15:42 | |
| w00t | bad symlink i guess ;) | 15:43 |
| Stskeeps | try now, refresh, upgrade | 15:45 |
| * w00t pokes zypper | 15:45 | |
| w00t | 86 packages to upgrade ... | 15:46 |
| w00t | looks better | 15:46 |
| * w00t hopes this doesn't break things ;) | 15:46 | |
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| faenil | back, finally home | 15:55 |
| w00t | wb | 15:55 |
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| * w00t kills uxlaunch | 16:00 | |
| w00t | let's see what happens | 16:00 |
| Stskeeps | reboot probably better, but ok | 16:01 |
| w00t | I think something is really odd with uxlaunch / systemd | 16:01 |
| w00t | on the n950 at least we have a really huge pause between uxlaunch starting and anything actually coming up | 16:01 |
| w00t | I guess I'll need to debug that | 16:01 |
| w00t | woo, I have a UI | 16:01 |
| w00t | right, that fixed it Stskeeps | 16:03 |
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| w00t | http://qtl.me/hlH.txt | 16:03 |
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| Stskeeps | file a bug to release-tools that latest/ linkd oesn't get upgraded | 16:05 |
| w00t | sure | 16:05 |
| * w00t eyes dialer | 16:05 | |
| w00t | why aren't you dropping your context | 16:05 |
| lbt | w00t: how's ssh in ? mine takes a long time | 16:06 |
| w00t | lbt: slow | 16:06 |
| w00t | lenovo is fast | 16:06 |
| w00t | (I don't know why) | 16:07 |
| Stskeeps | it has a rtc | 16:07 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 16:07 |
| w00t | hm? | 16:07 |
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| Stskeeps | go look in dmesg | 16:10 |
| * w00t files https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4 | 16:10 | |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3205 Rejected promotion request | 16:17 |
| w00t | ok, actually, i found that one myself | 16:28 |
| w00t | (:() | 16:28 |
| HtheB | Stskeeps: is it possible to change the multitasking view in mer? | 16:29 |
| HtheB | nemo * | 16:29 |
| Stskeeps | HtheB: it's open source, go patch it | 16:29 |
| w00t | HtheB: take a look at lipstick, too | 16:29 |
| w00t | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuS00aA8QyM | 16:30 |
| w00t | it's QML, so a lot easier to hack around with | 16:30 |
| HtheB | w00t: nice! | 16:31 |
| HtheB | harmattan like | 16:31 |
| HtheB | ui | 16:31 |
| w00t | build whatever you want with it | 16:32 |
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| Sage | lbt: for systemd itself there is patch in one of my home branches | 16:40 |
| Sage | lbt: but rest of the problems is in the other packages | 16:41 |
| Sage | I check all x86 packages already and those should be ok. Some N900 and N950 packages need the fix still | 16:41 |
| arcol | does the browser supports text reflow? (ie. to not scrolling horizontally when zooming in to a webpage) | 16:48 |
| arcol | this was the most wanted feature in n900 for me | 16:49 |
| veskuh_n9 | arcol no it does not. | 16:53 |
| arcol | crap | 16:53 |
| Sage | lbt: problem points can be found from "dmesg | grep -i systemd" saying somethign about cyclic dependencies | 16:54 |
| arcol | veskuh_n9: on nö, is it the same situation? | 16:54 |
| veskuh_n9 | yep | 16:55 |
| lbt | Sage: waiting for a local sync of mer | 16:57 |
| lbt | Sage: will n950 boot to either usb or wifi nw with system in the image? or am I stuck w/o serial ? | 16:58 |
| Sage | lbt: usb network should boot up alraedy. I fixed that part or it should be fixed already. | 16:59 |
| lbt | good | 16:59 |
| Sage | also the UI should boot, but there seems to be something off there still :/ | 16:59 |
| Sage | not sure about the wifi, but nothing should prevent it working if you connect to wifi before systemd update | 17:00 |
| lbt | OK | 17:01 |
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| * w00t upgrades meegotouch-applauncherd | 17:41 | |
| w00t | xruxa: this might make your apps launch a bit faster | 17:41 |
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| w00t | xruxa: can you get meegotouch-applauncherd from Project:MTF:UX and tell me how it feels please? | 18:12 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3210 Rejected promotion request | 19:42 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3211 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/3211 | 20:03 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3211 Accepted promotion request | 20:14 |
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| w00t | Sage: working on updating meegotouch-home now | 20:36 |
| w00t | should be some quite nice fixes in it | 20:36 |
| Sage | w00t: you are on fire :) | 20:37 |
| w00t | meh, package upgrades are mostly easy | 20:37 |
| w00t | this one is a slight exception as there was a lot of stuff done manual in .spec | 20:37 |
| w00t | ah, ffs, like the documentation being removed after build | 20:38 |
| * w00t sees if he can patch out doc building totally | 20:38 | |
| w00t | Sage: can I pass arguments to qmake somehow? | 20:39 |
| w00t | not easily, it seems :/ | 20:39 |
| w00t | I guess I'll patch the .pro | 20:40 |
| Sage | w00t: there is .yaml option for that | 20:40 |
| w00t | hmm | 20:40 |
| w00t | there is? | 20:40 |
| Sage | QmakeConfigs: | 20:40 |
| Sage | or something IIRC | 20:40 |
| Sage | a moment | 20:40 |
| Sage | QMakeOptions: **list**, *optional*, extra options for **qmake** ``Builder`` | 20:40 |
| w00t | ooh | 20:40 |
| Sage | 8s with google ;) | 20:40 |
| w00t | I just found a macro definition for %qmake, and didn't know there was more than that | 20:41 |
| w00t | :P | 20:41 |
| w00t | Project MESSAGE: Not building the documentation for this package | 20:44 |
| w00t | ooh yeah | 20:44 |
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| w00t | well, that's a slight problem | 20:49 |
| w00t | I don't have any launcher icons | 20:49 |
| * w00t reboots to see if something weird happened | 20:49 | |
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| xruxa | w00t: still want me to test the booster? | 20:59 |
| w00t | xruxa: you can, i'm mostly interested in if it seems faster | 20:59 |
| w00t | (i already tested it still works) | 20:59 |
| w00t | be careful to not upgrade meegotouch-home atm | 21:00 |
| xruxa | I have been using it for a while, didn't see a speedup :( Lets see with the new(er) one | 21:00 |
| xruxa | w00t: too late with the home :( | 21:00 |
| w00t | speedup won't be too visible with RAM pressure you have on n900 at the moment, but hopefully you'll see *some* | 21:00 |
| w00t | ehhh | 21:00 |
| w00t | sorry :P | 21:00 |
| w00t | I'm working on figuring out what's going on with that | 21:01 |
| xruxa | already installed libmeegotouchhome, not the other ones. Hope there is still chance ... | 21:02 |
| Sage | w00t: maybe meegotouch-theme and meegotouch-theme-graphics needs update? | 21:02 |
| w00t | no | 21:02 |
| w00t | it's definitely home being broken | 21:02 |
| w00t | it was fine before I upgraded | 21:02 |
| Sage | ok | 21:02 |
| * xruxa sees black screen. Only. :( | 21:02 | |
| * Sage updates his f14 | 21:03 | |
| w00t | black screen? uh, that one probably wasn't my fault | 21:03 |
| w00t | I get a launcher, just without any icons to launch stuff | 21:03 |
| xruxa | try to kill home, remove ~/.config/meegotouchhome/launcherbuttons and reboot | 21:03 |
| w00t | ah, wait, yes.. you upgraded the lib | 21:05 |
| w00t | I guess they're probably incompatible | 21:05 |
| * xruxa has home again | 21:05 | |
| w00t | that fixed my quicklaunch bar (which was broken before this), but still nothing in the launcher itself | 21:06 |
| xruxa | Oh, and for **** sake the WEP key got forgotten again. Man - this is just mean | 21:07 |
| * w00t installs strace | 21:10 | |
| * xruxa is wondering where did w00t get pacakge for strace | 21:11 | |
| w00t | osc importsrcpkg on a meego srpm, it's in home:w00t:ce if you want to install it | 21:12 |
| w00t | I'll figure out where we have a place for shared tools to put it tomorrow | 21:12 |
| w00t | ok, so this thing is definitely opening desktop files at least | 21:12 |
| xruxa | w00t: that booster seems bit faster than before, as a subjective measurement, but still no chance of 1s start-ups :( | 21:13 |
| w00t | xruxa: without more free RAM, I don't think you'll see that, no | 21:14 |
| w00t | qt changes (+ some app changes to drop GL contexts) will give you a bit more free RAM to experiment with | 21:14 |
| wesk77 | so, i just tried nemo on my n900. looks promising, even though there's still a lot missing. thanks at all the devs for your hard work! :) | 21:14 |
| w00t | wesk77: thanks, and feel free to join in :) | 21:14 |
| wesk77 | i wish i could. i'd have to learn some programming first.. until now i just made some perl scripts at best, heh | 21:16 |
| w00t | wesk77: poke at qml, it's pretty straightforward to create interfaces with as a starting point :) | 21:16 |
| xruxa | w00t: U think the bubble thing has traction and should be finished or should I drop it for some other things to do? | 21:18 |
| wesk77 | alright, i'll have a look tomorrow. can't hurt, and i really should give something back to the community | 21:19 |
| w00t | xruxa: work on anything your heart desires to work on, and we'll make slow and steady progress :) | 21:19 |
| w00t | I'm happy working on anything, really | 21:19 |
| xruxa | I have it on N900, not too slow actually. | 21:19 |
| xruxa | Ok, I go finish the bubble for fun, because fun it has been so far | 21:20 |
| xruxa | w00t: seen how many files we open with QtComponents apps to even start? Some of them bit surprising. | 21:20 |
| w00t | yes | 21:21 |
| w00t | (not recently, but a while ago) | 21:21 |
| w00t | anythings that stand out to you? | 21:21 |
| xruxa | I bet a saw an OpenOffice.org document being open there for getting some data from a spreadsheet :) | 21:22 |
| w00t | lol | 21:22 |
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| w00t | xruxa: latrace is available now too | 21:33 |
| w00t | though that seems to segfault, sigh | 21:36 |
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| faenil | segfault, making programmers happy since 1970 :D | 22:02 |
| faenil | I'm back anyway :D | 22:02 |
| faenil | and exhausted xD | 22:02 |
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| xruxa | w00t: ok, got bubbles to work both ways http://dl.dropbox.com/u/42376952/snapshot1.png enough for today. Runs under 60 FPS on N900 though :( | 22:59 |
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| faenil | hey we have working bubbles! :D | 23:05 |
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