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w00t | hai folks | 06:45 |
Stskeeps | morn | 06:45 |
w00t | Stskeeps: did you see xruxa's pastebin? | 06:45 |
w00t | is that from mer release, or nemo? | 06:45 |
Stskeeps | no, didn't see | 06:47 |
w00t | 11/20@23:59:19 <#nemomobile/xruxa> update left the device without UI :( http://pastie.org/2895128 | 06:47 |
Stskeeps | that's from adaptation | 06:47 |
w00t | just that i remember systemd problems | 06:47 |
w00t | mmk | 06:47 |
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w00t | moin xruxa | 06:48 |
xruxa | morning | 06:52 |
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Stskeeps | xruxa: did a reboot restart ui or did it wreck it completely? | 06:56 |
Sage | morning | 06:59 |
w00t | o/ Sage | 06:59 |
Stskeeps | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/files?package=nokia-n950-dualbooter&project=home%3Amarquiz%3An950 <- marquiz made a n950 dual booter thing | 07:04 |
Sage | nice | 07:04 |
w00t | really? huh. | 07:05 |
Stskeeps | of course it's with unsigned harmattan but still | 07:05 |
Stskeeps | i think | 07:05 |
w00t | hmm | 07:08 |
Sage | 08:47.33 < w00t> 11/20@23:59:19 <#nemomobile/xruxa> update left the device without UI :( http://pastie.org/2895128 | 07:08 |
Sage | ^ I realy wonder what caused that | 07:08 |
Sage | but reboot should solve that anyway | 07:08 |
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Stskeeps | Sage: did we find out if panda gives errors for compositor to? | 07:13 |
Stskeeps | o | 07:13 |
Sage | not yet. I'll check that next when I get stuff up again. | 07:15 |
Stskeeps | ok | 07:15 |
Stskeeps | just wanted to check since it was on my list | 07:15 |
Sage | ok | 07:16 |
Stskeeps | i will have a mer release out if i manage to kickstart it before i go on the plane | 07:17 |
arcol | Stskeeps: and can you give me url for nemomobile development too?;-) | 07:17 |
Stskeeps | need an OK from lbt the bugzilla works | 07:17 |
Stskeeps | arcol: that's more difficult :> , but https://build.pub.meego.com -> Projects, everything in CE:* projects | 07:17 |
Stskeeps | Sage: saw my comment/build checker on glib2 upgrade? | 07:17 |
arcol | heh. I came, because I saw the excellent youtube vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCCxjO0CXjw | 07:18 |
arcol | to find out more info about the general state. I have an n900, and always look out for an update:) | 07:18 |
Stskeeps | should see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxQLIjcYAMU to | 07:18 |
Stskeeps | o | 07:18 |
arcol | watching | 07:19 |
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arcol | Im ready to switch, once phone call, sms, email, camera, web browser (and also wifi, 3G) is working | 07:20 |
arcol | thats what I use on the n900 | 07:20 |
arcol | oh, and alarm clock | 07:21 |
Stskeeps | might have to code some of the things yourself too :) | 07:21 |
arcol | :) | 07:21 |
arcol | this flickr app is nice.. | 07:21 |
Sage | Stskeeps, lbt: "Build not possible repository setup broken" What happened to mer repos during the weekend? | 07:22 |
Stskeeps | i haven't touched them | 07:22 |
Sage | fakeobs broke down? | 07:22 |
Sage | project name changed in mer structure? | 07:22 |
* Stskeeps looks | 07:22 | |
Stskeeps | stskeeps@shell:~$ uptime 07:23:07 up 7:05, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 | 07:23 |
Stskeeps | i'm just going to update to new mer snapshot while i'm at it anyway | 07:23 |
w00t | arcol: to keep track of what's happening development-wise, http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Backlog is pretty useful probably | 07:23 |
w00t | (volunteering items off there is more than welcome :p) | 07:24 |
arcol | w00t: ok, thats what I was looking for | 07:24 |
arcol | Im more a casual python app writer (I wrote for my own amusement some python-elementary apps). So once the basic works on my n900(camera, phone calling, browser), Im ready to switch and start writing some basic fart apps:) | 07:25 |
arcol | Im tinkering with the idea of tip calculator (in a restaurant, when multiple people have dinner, and needs fast to divide the invoice between us) | 07:26 |
arcol | and some basic apps, like this | 07:26 |
Stskeeps | which reminds me someone should sit down and fix pyside | 07:26 |
w00t | I'm sure I can find some simpler items (QML) if you'd like that | 07:26 |
arcol | but I wont switch until the basic phone functionality works. n900 is my only phone, and people are calling me a lot. | 07:27 |
arcol | I can develop on my laptop beforehand though | 07:27 |
w00t | that's what I do :) | 07:27 |
w00t | all development on laptop, testing there, testing on device once it's ready | 07:28 |
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arcol | basically what I use a lot is the camera of my n900. I have 6000+ photos on it already. | 07:31 |
Stskeeps | arcol: we have a fairly decent camera adaptation at least, just remember this isn't remotely near a production software | 07:31 |
Stskeeps | so if you're into open source and hacking, it's good but else.. hmm | 07:31 |
w00t | dialer is one area that actively needs love | 07:32 |
Stskeeps | arcol: i'd recommend you to buy a microsd card and try out some of our images | 07:32 |
Stskeeps | you don't have to break your normal maemo setup then | 07:32 |
w00t | (but that's also one of the hairier items, since it has so many dependencies that building it on desktop is not straightforward) | 07:32 |
arcol | Stskeeps: thats a nice idea. yes. | 07:32 |
arcol | w00t: n900 dialer is a crap too. So dont have high expectations there. (ie. dont properly recognise the following phone numbers: 0036 == +36 ==06, etc, etc) | 07:35 |
w00t | it's crap, but it's at least vaguely productized ;) | 07:35 |
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w00t | ours is ugly, can dial numbers reliably, but that's probably about the only feature I think I'd rely on | 07:35 |
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Sage | Stskeeps, w00t: mcompositor started from xterm with meego user: http://pastie.org/2896582 | 07:36 |
Stskeeps | Sage: that's with &> ? | 07:36 |
Sage | yes | 07:37 |
w00t | huh... | 07:37 |
Sage | http://pastie.org/2896586 <- and dmesg | 07:37 |
Stskeeps | interesting | 07:37 |
arcol | also on n900 I dont like, that if a phone number is in contact list, when I call, it does not show the phone number (there are plenty of space on the screen to do it. Eg. there is that dummy nobody face icon in the middle) | 07:37 |
Stskeeps | Sage: omapdrm omapdrm.0: failed to allocate vram -- think we need to add that video= line like in n900 | 07:37 |
arcol | also the accept and reject call buttons just neighboors. I push the reject buttons many times accidentally | 07:37 |
Stskeeps | arcol: good thing our dialer is open source then | 07:37 |
w00t | arcol: I think incoming call screen having buttons *at all* is a mistake | 07:38 |
Stskeeps | yes, because who'd want to talk to anyone? | 07:38 |
Stskeeps | :P | 07:38 |
Sage | can someone paste /proc/cmdline from N900 ? | 07:38 |
w00t | there should be some kind of mechanism that really requires you to accept or reject the call | 07:38 |
w00t | i.e. slide-right-to-accept, slide-left-to-reject | 07:39 |
arcol | w00t: you want 3 things to do: accept, reject(ie. the caller DO notice, you cant/want to pick up his call), mute the volume (ie. the caller DONT notice, that you dont want to pick up the phone) | 07:39 |
w00t | that way, there's no accidental action, even if you're using the screen for something else... | 07:39 |
w00t | Stskeeps: Warning: EGL suggested using X Visual ID 33 (ARGB0888) for EGL config 8 (ARGB8888), but this is incompatable | 07:39 |
w00t | is suspicious to me too | 07:40 |
w00t | looks like alpha-vs-no-alpha | 07:40 |
arcol | w00t: there are 3 things to do when an incoming call happens, not two | 07:40 |
arcol | to do -> to choose from | 07:40 |
Stskeeps | Sage: CONFIG_CMDLINE="root=/dev/mmcblk0p1 rootwait ro console=ttyO2,115200n8 console=tty0 omapfb.vram=0:2M,1:2M,2:2M mtdoops.mtddev=2 quiet" | 07:40 |
w00t | arcol: muting the volume is a much less damaging activity, so I deliberately omitted that | 07:40 |
arcol | w00t: muting the volume *AND* also disable the vibrator motor too | 07:41 |
w00t | those are not seperate actions | 07:41 |
w00t | and besides that, we don't have vibration to worry about | 07:41 |
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arcol | nope, they aren't. But many phones just mute the volume, and the vibrator keeps running on, annoying people in a conference room or in the cinema | 07:41 |
Sage | Stskeeps: sure those same values are valid on panda? | 07:42 |
w00t | heh :) | 07:42 |
Stskeeps | Sage: give it a try? | 07:42 |
w00t | veskuh: moin moin | 07:42 |
veskuh | w00t: morning | 07:42 |
arcol | w00t: heh, you vibra motor just squeeze without turning too?;-) | 07:42 |
w00t | veskuh: if you don't mind nuking your nemo image, qmlcontacts is ready tot est | 07:42 |
w00t | to test* | 07:42 |
Sage | Stskeeps: yes, just wondering :) | 07:42 |
w00t | arcol: hm? | 07:43 |
veskuh | w00t: ah, nice. sure, i'd like to test. where is it? | 07:43 |
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Sage | Stskeeps: that means that it allocates 2M for framebuffers 0,1 and 2. Do we need 3 framebuffer on n900? | 07:43 |
arcol | w00t: on n900 is fairly common that the vibrator motor stops turning. Mine stopped too, it only have a high pitch noise, when it should turn | 07:43 |
Sage | Stskeeps: just wondering if that is a waste of mem | 07:44 |
arcol | w00t: it got a fairly small/crappy vibrator motor. | 07:44 |
w00t | veskuh: home:w00t:branches:Project:MTF:Tracker, install qmlcontacts and upgrade libseaside *NOTE* *WARNING* this will break SMS and dialer (though there's also a dialer package in there that should work if you're lucky) | 07:44 |
w00t | arcol: ah, no, we just don't have sofware support for it since afair it's closed source | 07:44 |
arcol | w00t: ah | 07:44 |
veskuh | w00t: ok, i'll grab it. | 07:44 |
w00t | (Stskeeps is more useful than me there, I don't know much about hardware adaptations) | 07:44 |
Stskeeps | well | 07:44 |
Stskeeps | we don't have the vibrator player but we can interface with the vibrator | 07:45 |
w00t | uhm ;p | 07:45 |
w00t | what's the difference? | 07:45 |
arcol | w00t: I dont really mind then, as my regular n900 only vibrate occasionally. (usually its just a high pitch noise) | 07:45 |
Stskeeps | w00t: means we can't do cool patterns, because noone ever made a OSS vibrator player | 07:45 |
w00t | pfft | 07:45 |
w00t | that shouldn't be hard at all | 07:45 |
Stskeeps | well, if we're going into things like tactile feedback then yes, it does matter a bit :P | 07:46 |
Stskeeps | think there's a bunch of patents related to that, probably | 07:46 |
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arcol | but I liked the iphone idea of having invidual patterns (just like ringtone) for you most used contacts. So you feel who is calling you. | 07:46 |
xruxa | Sage, Stskeeps : the no UI issue after update - the device works otherwise, I can ssh-in. | 07:46 |
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Stskeeps | Sage: ..what's your resolution, btw? | 07:49 |
Sage | Stskeeps: it is very nice that with panda it is possible to change bootargs without recompiling kernel :D | 07:49 |
Stskeeps | you might need to kick up the vram side somehow | 07:49 |
Sage | 1680x1050 atm. | 07:50 |
Stskeeps | yeah, hmm | 07:50 |
Sage | also that line didn't do any difference | 07:50 |
w00t | xruxa: so reboot didn't fix it? | 07:50 |
Sage | as such at least | 07:50 |
Stskeeps | Sage: kick it up to 16mb for fun | 07:50 |
xruxa | w00t: nope | 07:50 |
w00t | Sage: that sounds bad.. :p | 07:51 |
Stskeeps | and add omapdss.debug=y | 07:51 |
Termana | morning | 07:51 |
Sage | w00t: what douns bad? :) | 07:51 |
Sage | sounds* | 07:51 |
Stskeeps | 7056000 byte at least needed for vram | 07:51 |
* Sage reboots with 16M | 07:52 | |
Termana | Just reading through the log a bit, is the dialer UI done in QML? | 07:52 |
w00t | Sage: sgx upgrade blowing xruxa's n900 up :P | 07:52 |
w00t | Termana: yes | 07:52 |
xruxa | w00t, Sage : It failed to install the package with zypper update. I have now force updated it with rpm and after reboot have UI :) | 07:53 |
Termana | And you're all just looking for something like Android where you flick it across? | 07:54 |
w00t | Termana: well... just anything not a button, I think... there's plenty of other improvements the dialer could do with, too | 07:55 |
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Sage | Stskeeps: http://pastie.org/2896617 | 07:57 |
w00t | Termana: if you're volunteering ... ;) | 07:58 |
Stskeeps | Sage: hmm | 08:01 |
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the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3172 Rejected promotion request | 08:06 |
veskuh | w00t: good start. No way to add new contact yet? | 08:08 |
Sage | xruxa: I'll give you access to Project:MTF l10n package and try to submit from there to CE:UX:MTF | 08:08 |
Termana | w00t, I'll have a look at it at least to see if I can help the situation. | 08:09 |
arcol | w00t: also whats the stage of the closed components of the n900? (I mean graphics driver, ofono, etc). There were a table in maemo wiki, but cant find it (I googled for 20 minutes already) | 08:09 |
Sage | xruxa: there, you should be able to modify that l10n package in Project:MTF now. | 08:09 |
Sage | arcol: graphics closed, wifi and bt firmwares closed. phone stack open. | 08:10 |
arcol | it means, we cant have the latest kernel? (for graphics) | 08:10 |
Sage | arcol: you should talk to kimju who has 3.x kernel running on N900. | 08:11 |
Sage | the kernel part of the graphics is open but AFAIK not in the kernel upstream. | 08:11 |
Stskeeps | arcol: nothing's blocking kernel side of things, just effort | 08:12 |
arcol | aham | 08:13 |
arcol | so things looks quite nice actually. A year from now, and I will have a fully working n900 with qt libs:) | 08:13 |
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arcol | (I didnt plan to change my n900 for at least 5 years) | 08:13 |
Stskeeps | your usb plug will probably die before then | 08:14 |
Sage | :D | 08:14 |
Stskeeps | the n900 has a high doom factor in that area | 08:14 |
Sage | friend of mine send n900 to service as it was still under warranty they sent E7 to him instead of repairing his n900 :P | 08:15 |
Stskeeps | yeah.. | 08:15 |
arcol | Stskeeps: I already sanded down the small crawls on it. and I am really cautious at that area | 08:16 |
w00t | veskuh: oh, you have an old version of the theme | 08:17 |
w00t | tap the bottom left | 08:17 |
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w00t | there's a plus button there, but .. well, you won't see the icon without newer theme :) | 08:18 |
veskuh | w00t: ah, ok. | 08:18 |
arcol | thank you guys for all the info. I'll keep an eye on your project | 08:19 |
xruxa | Sage: that l10n and Project:MTF - can I just submit from the branches:CE:UX:MTF or should I branch from Project:MTF fresh and submit? | 08:24 |
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w00t | xruxa: assuming you need no changes, you can just osc submitrequest Project:MTF packagename CE:UX:MTF | 08:25 |
* xruxa now confused even more :) | 08:25 | |
w00t | xruxa: when you start changing stuff, you branch from project:mtf, which is like.. a staging/development area.. you make your changes, submit to project:mtf.. get it approved there, then once it's built ok (and dependent packages built ok), submit to the final destination (CE:UX:MTF in this case) | 08:26 |
xruxa | so much work :( | 08:28 |
Sage | xruxa: devel in Project:MTF and submit from there to CE:UX:MTF | 08:28 |
w00t | Sage: hm, no branch required? | 08:28 |
w00t | that was the way it worked in meego, but i guess we're a lot less people here ;) | 08:28 |
Sage | w00t: Project:MTF is our devel area so I would say no. | 08:28 |
w00t | xruxa: ok, ignore the branch part of what I said | 08:28 |
w00t | ;) | 08:28 |
Sage | w00t: people that are not "main" devels use branches but as long as you have access to the Project:MTF package just go for it :) | 08:28 |
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Sage | w00t: yes, because we don't have many people working on this this should work ok. | 08:28 |
xruxa | Sage: osc co Project:MTF meegotouch-community-l10n ? Or how? | 08:28 |
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Stskeeps | Sage: http://omappedia.org/wiki/Bootargs_for_enabling_display | 08:44 |
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Sage | Stskeeps: :nod: but not sure if those help with this compositor thing. I might find help to my home TV with those | 08:49 |
Sage | anyway I'm currently connected with HDMI->DVI adapter to normal 1680x1050 display and it is properly aligned. | 08:49 |
Sage | I don't have HDMI TV at work available :/ | 08:49 |
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lbt | Stskeeps, Sage bugzilla is mainly done. The problem is that bugzilla SHA256 of a passwd != ldap SHA256 so although the data flows you can't login using a passwd set by bugzilla... which is ... suboptimal | 09:06 |
Stskeeps | fun | 09:08 |
Stskeeps | Sage: time to ask IT for a 40" TV, claim it's for work purposes | 09:10 |
Stskeeps | ;) | 09:10 |
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lbt | Stskeeps: it does seem to properly enforce usernames and rejects collisions | 09:11 |
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niqt | I used developer with mad-eveloper on N900 after 15 minutes i lose your connection wifi, someone had the same problem? | 09:12 |
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Sage | Stskeeps: ;) | 09:23 |
Sage | so what are the most important things to do with Mer and Nemo Mobile atm.? | 09:30 |
Sage | anything urgent on anyones mind atm? | 09:30 |
Stskeeps | well, look into why glib2 DBC failed | 09:30 |
Stskeeps | - highlights:failed: gamin gstreamer poppler | 09:31 |
arcol | (10.09.59) Stskeeps: Sage: time to ask IT for a 40" TV, claim it's for work purposes <- are you guys nokia employee? | 09:31 |
Stskeeps | arcol: no | 09:32 |
Stskeeps | arcol: i'm self-employed but contracted to work on Nemo/N900 hardware adaptation | 09:32 |
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Sage | arcol: no. | 09:39 |
w00t | veskuh: what do you think, anyhow? | 09:40 |
Sage | Stskeeps: ok, will check that | 09:45 |
Stskeeps | Sage: otherwise there's things like connman, ofono upgrade and uch | 09:45 |
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Sage | Stskeeps: http://qtl.merproject.org/b638c294-12c9-11e1-bc38-00163e6e0038.html <- buildlogs empty | 09:51 |
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Stskeeps | Sage: yes, obs bug, plz verify with glib2 and those packages in same repo | 10:05 |
veskuh | w00t: Looks promising. Just few features more (delete contact, save notes, company) and a little tweaking on editor layout (spacing) and it is good. | 10:05 |
* w00t is happy to see qtl used | 10:05 | |
w00t | veskuh: yeah, xruxa was working on an editor layout idea | 10:05 |
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veskuh | w00t: but anyway, the basic structure is good. just a bit more polish needed. | 10:06 |
w00t | :) | 10:07 |
w00t | polish can be iterated easily nowdays, at least | 10:08 |
w00t | QML ♥ | 10:08 |
veskuh | :) | 10:08 |
w00t | https://github.com/nemomobile/qmlcontacts/blob/master/PortraitEditorView.qml | 10:09 |
w00t | Sage: where should I SR libircclient-qt and irc-chatter to? CE:MW:Shared and CE:Apps? | 10:11 |
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Sage | w00t: CE:Apps definitely | 10:48 |
w00t | Sage: and the library? | 10:48 |
Sage | CE:Apps as well, as nothing else needs it than that app atm. | 10:49 |
Sage | we don't submit anything to MW just because it is lib. It need to be required by someone/thing | 10:49 |
Sage | Stskeeps: gamin require glib2 and glib2 require gamin | 10:50 |
Sage | Stskeeps: poppler compiles fine on my repo and found patch for gamin to fix the build. | 10:51 |
Sage | gstreamer is next | 10:51 |
Sage | I'm tempted to try updating gstremer from 0.10.32 to 0.11.1 | 10:51 |
Stskeeps | Sage: yeah, there is a stupid circular dependency there | 10:52 |
Stskeeps | Sage: think poppler issue was fixed with the upgrade | 10:54 |
w00t | Sage: ok | 10:55 |
Sage | Stskeeps: ok | 10:56 |
Sage | Stskeeps: https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home%3Astskeeps%3Atest2 <- need this? | 10:57 |
Stskeeps | probably not | 10:57 |
Sage | Stskeeps: that consumes quite a bit resources if not needed | 10:57 |
* Sage goes to remove all branches he don't need | 10:57 | |
Stskeeps | i'm in airport, i think you have access to my homeproj? | 10:57 |
the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3174 Rejected promotion request | 10:58 |
Sage | I don't actually in cobs | 10:58 |
Stskeeps | ah ok | 10:58 |
Stskeeps | i'll fix when on laptop | 10:59 |
Sage | sure, no rush | 10:59 |
w00t | FAILED check_has_valid_repo (home:w00t:ce): No repository which builds only against CE:Apps/CE_MW_Shared_armv7l [armv7el]. No repository which builds only against CE:Apps/CE_MW_Shared_i586 [i586]. No repository which builds only against CE:Apps/CE_MW_Shared_armv7hl [armv8el]. | 10:59 |
Sage | just started to wonder why something compiles gcc ;) | 10:59 |
w00t | o.O | 10:59 |
the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3175 Rejected promotion request | 10:59 |
w00t | what did I do wrong? | 11:00 |
Sage | w00t: well, I'm starting to think that we need to remove that check from boss :) | 11:00 |
Sage | w00t: you have repository that compiels against CE:MW:UX but no repository that is compiling against CE:Apps :P | 11:00 |
w00t | it sounds like a weird check ... | 11:00 |
Sage | well, it is nice check, but it causes a lot of more work to devels as we don't have easy way to do those repos for home projects | 11:01 |
Sage | phaeron: ^ could we disable that check from all CE projects | 11:01 |
Sage | ok, I'm thinking that updating to gstreamer 0.11.x branch isn't ok yet | 11:03 |
Sage | File not found by glob: /home/abuild/rpmbuild/BUILDROOT/gstreamer-0.11.1-4.1.arm/usr/lib/libgstreamer-0.10.so.* | 11:03 |
Sage | ^ might cause a lot of problems with proprietary libs as well | 11:03 |
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w00t | Sage: is copypac for those two packages an option for now? or what should I do? | 11:04 |
w00t | Sage: 0.10.so is not 0.11.so, I guess | 11:04 |
w00t | but yeah, there's a lot of changes i think | 11:04 |
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Sage | w00t: add repos there that build against CE:Apps | 11:06 |
w00t | ok | 11:07 |
w00t | do I need to remove my others? | 11:07 |
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Sage | w00t: no need to remove other | 11:07 |
Sage | *S | 11:07 |
* w00t tries to figure out how | 11:07 | |
Sage | w00t: ask if you need help :) | 11:09 |
Sage | this repo thing is a bit of a hard thing atm. | 11:09 |
w00t | it doesn't really love me | 11:11 |
w00t | I tried to copy the repos off your branch, but it won't save it | 11:11 |
Sage | let me pastebin | 11:12 |
Sage | w00t: http://pastie.org/2897234 | 11:13 |
Sage | that should work | 11:13 |
w00t | .. | 11:13 |
w00t | weird | 11:13 |
w00t | it worked from pastebin | 11:13 |
w00t | i guess the web ui had a trailing character somewhere | 11:14 |
Sage | Stskeeps: fixes submitted for gamin and gstreamer | 11:14 |
Stskeeps | j | 11:14 |
Stskeeps | j | 11:14 |
Stskeeps | err | 11:14 |
Stskeeps | k | 11:14 |
w00t | k | 11:15 |
Sage | didn't test run those packages though :P | 11:15 |
w00t | lmnop? | 11:15 |
w00t | :P | 11:15 |
Sage | but hey they build so they work, right? :D | 11:15 |
Stskeeps | and this is why we need qa automation | 11:15 |
w00t | it compiles; ship it | 11:15 |
* w00t gets warm fuzzy memories of working on meego | 11:16 | |
w00t | ;) | 11:16 |
Sage | Stskeeps: image build would be a nice start | 11:16 |
w00t | Sage: hahaha.. | 11:16 |
w00t | I think it won't build in CE:Apps, because it uses booster | 11:16 |
Sage | ah, then CE:Apps:MTF :D | 11:16 |
* w00t headdesks | 11:16 | |
Sage | w00t: you didn't say that. I though that it was just plain qml without any mtf deps | 11:17 |
Stskeeps | Sage: yes, on my list | 11:17 |
w00t | Sage: well, it doesn't | 11:17 |
w00t | it uses the declarative booster | 11:17 |
Stskeeps | Sage: obs 2.3 first though | 11:17 |
Sage | w00t: well, that is part of the MTF booster :/ | 11:17 |
w00t | unfortunately, yes | 11:17 |
w00t | we should probably just patch out the MTF part | 11:17 |
Sage | w00t: we should separate those so that we could move the non mtf part ot MW:Shared | 11:17 |
Sage | *to | 11:17 |
w00t | well, no need for the mtf booster, right? | 11:17 |
Sage | I have no idea about that | 11:17 |
w00t | the only thing that uses it is settings, and to be honest, i'd rather settings take another second or two to launch than ~20mb of RAM be taken up for its booster to be used by a single app | 11:18 |
Sage | I think some MTF apps still require it someway | 11:18 |
* w00t adds that to his list | 11:18 | |
veskuh | widgetsgallery and settings are the only ones | 11:18 |
w00t | anyway, how do i easily fix these repo paths? | 11:19 |
veskuh | easy to check from .desktop files | 11:19 |
w00t | veskuh: :) | 11:19 |
veskuh | so yes, we can drop mtf-booster. In fact as far as I recall it was explictly disabled in the summer release | 11:19 |
Sage | w00t: ok "easy" way is to "osc rdelete home:w00t:branches:CE:Apps:MTF; osc branch CE:Apps:MTF meego-handset-maps; osc meta prj home:w00t:branches:CE:Apps:MTF;" :) | 11:20 |
Sage | w00t: watchout that might delete data ;) | 11:20 |
Sage | so pretty much branch from CE:Apps:MTF and check the repos in that branch and copy to your own project | 11:20 |
w00t | i don't seem to have a CE:Apps:MTF branch | 11:20 |
w00t | so i think i'd be right :) | 11:20 |
Sage | the branch creates the proper repos automatically | 11:21 |
Sage | and then you have place from which you can copypaster proper repos | 11:21 |
Stskeeps | bbl boarding | 11:23 |
* Sage forgot to do something but he can't recall what | 11:24 | |
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Sage | phaeron: ping | 11:26 |
phaeron | Sage: pong | 11:26 |
Sage | SR#3165 also could you remove the is build at source check from all of the CE: projects | 11:27 |
Sage | 12:59.42 < w00t> FAILED check_has_valid_repo (home:w00t:ce): No repository which builds only against CE:Apps/CE_MW_Shared_armv7l [armv7el]. No repository which builds only against CE:Apps/CE_MW_Shared_i586 [i586]. No repository which builds only against CE:Apps/CE_MW_Shared_armv7hl [armv8el]. | 11:27 |
Sage | we don't have good ways to create the proper repos to users home projects so that is really starting to annoy users. | 11:27 |
w00t | well | 11:27 |
phaeron | hmm | 11:27 |
w00t | perhaps better would be to fix however to create those repos? | 11:27 |
Sage | phaeron: it check the build anyway after the initial review is done so it would be rejected anyway later | 11:27 |
Sage | w00t: there is no good way there is a lot of things todo for that. | 11:28 |
the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3177 Rejected promotion request | 11:28 |
w00t | ok | 11:28 |
phaeron | Sage: there are two checks: built at source , built against correct repo | 11:28 |
Sage | and in the end that check isn't really required for now IMHO | 11:28 |
Sage | phaeron: build against correct repo should be removed | 11:29 |
phaeron | I really recommend against that | 11:29 |
Sage | phaeron: why? | 11:29 |
phaeron | it will cause lots of trial builds to fail if the dependency chain is incorrect | 11:29 |
Sage | phaeron: so far _every_ person who has made submit to CE fails on that and asks from me how to do it right | 11:30 |
Sage | after setting repo everything has always been ok | 11:30 |
w00t | technically, that one wouldn't have been | 11:30 |
Sage | so so far no failed trial builds | 11:31 |
w00t | (it should have been CE:Apps:MTF, not CE:Apps) | 11:31 |
phaeron | Sage: so the message is unclear , how about we add a link to a wiki page that explains why and how | 11:31 |
Sage | w00t: yes, but that one would have failed before actual trial build | 11:31 |
Sage | dependency not found | 11:31 |
Sage | phaeron: ok, tell me how to add easily with one single command proper repo to my home that builds against CE:Apps | 11:32 |
Sage | phaeron: ^ after that I'm ok with the check | 11:32 |
phaeron | (I could have when it was one repo with three archs) :) | 11:32 |
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phaeron | /rant | 11:32 |
phaeron | :D | 11:32 |
w00t | Sage: 3178 is libircclient-qt | 11:32 |
Sage | phaeron: yes, but is it not so, is it? :) | 11:33 |
w00t | I'll go make lunch, and then SR irc-chatter | 11:33 |
the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3178 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/3178 | 11:33 |
phaeron | Sage: it can be done through some sed awk magic , right ? | 11:33 |
Sage | phaeron: well, you can run UX with sed/awk magic if you really want to so sure :D | 11:35 |
Sage | phaeron: we need what osc branch does but instead of adding repos to new project add them to existing project | 11:36 |
Sage | phaeron: and without branching an actual package | 11:36 |
the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3178 Accepted promotion request | 11:37 |
phaeron | ok gimme a minute I'll suggest something | 11:38 |
Sage | is it just me or does phaeron have long minutes? :D | 11:46 |
phaeron | it complex :) | 11:46 |
phaeron | maybe an osc plugin can help | 11:46 |
* lbt sides with phaeron | 11:52 | |
phaeron | Sage: got sidetracked | 11:59 |
phaeron | osc -A https://localhost:4444 meta prj home:Admin | sed -e '/<repository .*>/,/<\/repository>/d' | 12:00 |
phaeron | this removes the repository block | 12:00 |
xruxa | Sage: I could not checkout Project:MTF but could Project:MTF:UX. However that one does not seem to build anything when I commit new versions :( | 12:00 |
Sage | phaeron: user doesn't want to remove the block, user wants to _add_ new block | 12:00 |
phaeron | now to add the correct one | 12:00 |
phaeron | Sage: ... | 12:00 |
Sage | phaeron: use still has some other repositories he wants to compile against as well | 12:00 |
phaeron | ok don't remove then | 12:01 |
phaeron | brb | 12:01 |
Sage | phaeron: have a look a one of our devs home https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home%3Aw00t%3Ace | 12:01 |
w00t | (yeah, it's a mess sorry, but it's really a lot easier for me to just have a single dumping ground project) | 12:02 |
w00t | Sage: did you accept 3178? the-boss says you did but the web UI shows nothing | 12:03 |
phaeron | no problems | 12:03 |
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phaeron | osc -A https://localhost:4444 meta prj home:Admin | sed -e "s/<\/project>/$newrepos\n<\\/project>/" | 12:04 |
phaeron | and export $newrepos earlier | 12:04 |
phaeron | I can wrap that in a script that takes the name of the project you want to build against and does the right thing | 12:05 |
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lbt | phaeron: could you document it first | 12:05 |
Sage | phaeron: umm... no doesn't work if I understood properly | 12:05 |
lbt | and then have the documentation be the authoritative thing | 12:06 |
phaeron | sure, where do you put things | 12:06 |
Sage | phaeron: if I want to build against CE:Apps the CE:Apps doesn't contain the valid <repository> block | 12:06 |
lbt | mer wiki now | 12:06 |
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lbt | Sage: no, but we do need to explain how to do this correctly | 12:06 |
Sage | CE:Apps builds against CE:MW:Shared and if you copy block there it doesn't pass the boss test | 12:07 |
lbt | and I like the idea of an osc plugin that says "add mer/nemo build targets to my home/branch targetting submission to CE:**" | 12:07 |
phaeron | now you lost me , you only need to add repos against the project you want to submit to | 12:08 |
lbt | I also think putting this into a wiki to explain why we need certain targets will clear up confusion like ^^^ | 12:08 |
lbt | as well as making users say "ah, that makes sense" | 12:09 |
Sage | phaeron: 14:04.27 < phaeron> osc -A https://localhost:4444 meta prj home:Admin | sed -e "s/<\/project>/$newrepos\n<\\/project>/" | 12:09 |
Sage | phaeron: ^ that adds to new repo, but how to get the repos out from project X | 12:09 |
phaeron | that's easy but I'll write the rationale and stuff in the wiki and put the commands / scripts there | 12:11 |
lbt | phaeron: thanks - that will be useful | 12:11 |
Sage | phaeron: thx. I'll test them as soon as they are ready :) | 12:12 |
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w00t | Sage: SR 3184 is irc-chatter :) | 12:16 |
w00t | eh | 12:16 |
w00t | never mind that | 12:16 |
the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3184 Rejected promotion request | 12:16 |
the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3185 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/3185 | 12:21 |
the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3185 Accepted promotion request | 12:24 |
w00t | Sage: so, needs to go into package groups I guess? | 12:26 |
Sage | yes, I'll add it there those are still a bit WIP | 12:28 |
w00t | ok | 12:29 |
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w00t | niqt: hey, what's your github user? | 13:04 |
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niqt | woot: | 13:14 |
niqt | w00t: just moment that i see in my info | 13:14 |
niqt | w00t: my github user is niqt (i have a lot of imagination) | 13:19 |
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w00t | niqt: added, and repo created (https://github.com/nemomobile/qmlcalendar) - go nuts | 13:20 |
niqt | thanks | 13:20 |
w00t | if you need help etc, just ask | 13:20 |
niqt | ok | 13:20 |
arcol | thats quite nice recent demo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGrvs7TbVBs&feature=channel_video_title | 13:25 |
arcol | nov 17 of nemo | 13:25 |
w00t | :) | 13:37 |
w00t | hmm | 13:37 |
w00t | dialer looks slow there | 13:37 |
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arcol | there were no camera demo either. So I assume its not working | 13:42 |
w00t | it should be, afaik | 13:43 |
arcol | was nice to see how much it evolved in two weeks (the previous demo video from the same author was like 2 weeks before, and basically nothing worked) | 13:45 |
Sage | w00t: camera should work | 13:46 |
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w00t | arcol: sage has been busy :) | 13:48 |
Sage | w00t: just integrating stuff, others have been busy doing the code :) | 13:50 |
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w00t | hehe | 13:50 |
* w00t waits for Project:MTF:UX to check out | 13:50 | |
Sage | atm. busy doing some package updates for Mer. | 13:50 |
w00t | oh, this reminds me | 13:51 |
w00t | Sage: now the new nemo release is out, I need to patch configs to use Qt's runtime graphicssystem | 13:51 |
w00t | where are the repos for those? | 13:51 |
w00t | (and should I take the opportunity to move them to github?) | 13:51 |
Sage | w00t: nokia-n900-configs CE:Adaptation:N900 | 13:52 |
w00t | as in, git repos :) | 13:52 |
w00t | (since I guess I'll need to poke them there too?) | 13:52 |
Sage | does github have method for structure tree for projects? | 13:52 |
w00t | hrmm | 13:52 |
w00t | I don't know | 13:53 |
Sage | like github.com/nemomobile/adaptation/n900 | 13:53 |
w00t | I don't think so | 13:53 |
Sage | :/ | 13:53 |
Sage | because we already have so much stuff that it might get a bit crowded soon | 13:53 |
w00t | trrrruuuueee... though I don't think the web UI gets used so often | 13:54 |
Sage | anyway would be probably nice to get http://meego.gitorious.org/meego-device-adaptation/n900_nokia-n900-configs to github as well, however with just name nokia-n900-configs or even nokia-configs?? | 13:54 |
Sage | http://meego.gitorious.org/meego-device-adaptation <- some of our stuff as well :) | 13:54 |
Sage | but I guess those can stay there for now | 13:55 |
w00t | yuch | 13:55 |
Sage | w00t: I'll just give you access there, what was your gitorious account | 13:55 |
w00t | we really need to consolidate somewhere - I guess it might be an idea to rethink github though | 13:55 |
w00t | 'w00t' | 13:55 |
Sage | actually, I don't have access to do that :P | 13:56 |
Sage | Stskeeps: needs to push those rights ^ | 13:56 |
Stskeeps | mail me it, best way to make me remember | 13:58 |
Sage | Stskeeps: done | 14:00 |
Sage | what is libiWmxSdk-0 ? | 14:01 |
Sage | Stskeeps: newer connman has that as ix86 dep. | 14:01 |
Sage | Title: ConnMan plugin for the Intel WiMAX Network Service | 14:03 |
Sage | ok, so probably can be dropped for now | 14:03 |
w00t | heh | 14:03 |
w00t | arggh | 14:04 |
Sage | ah, my bad added it first back myself :P | 14:05 |
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w00t | is someone able to test meegotouch-systemui in Project:MTF:UX on an n900/n950 please? I'll test on lenovo | 14:17 |
veskuh | w00t: I can do it | 14:17 |
w00t | no functional changes, just a version upgrade | 14:17 |
w00t | http://qtl.me/09M.txt | 14:18 |
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veskuh | w00t: on N950 I do not see any regression. | 14:29 |
w00t | veskuh: excellent, i'll test lenovo and off we go if that works ok | 14:29 |
veskuh | cool | 14:29 |
w00t | wow, it really does get rid of the black flash | 14:34 |
w00t | that's good | 14:34 |
w00t | works for me too | 14:35 |
Stskeeps | shipit | 14:36 |
w00t | already SRd ;) | 14:36 |
the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3186 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/3186 | 14:37 |
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w00t | veskuh: up for testing something else? | 14:48 |
veskuh | sure | 14:48 |
w00t | install musicshelf from home:w00t:branches:CE:Apps | 14:48 |
w00t | should have a prettier icon, and UI now scales to fit device screen | 14:48 |
veskuh | ok | 14:50 |
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w00t | ta | 14:50 |
the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3186 Accepted promotion request | 14:52 |
Sage | Stskeeps: the n950 patches do not apply as such on top of ofono 1.0 | 14:53 |
Sage | Stskeeps: do we have anyone that could upstream those and do maybe couple of fixes? | 14:53 |
Sage | orinally patch is made by aki niemi | 14:54 |
veskuh | w00t: wow, the icon is way cooler | 14:54 |
w00t | ;) | 14:55 |
w00t | it was there all the time, just never enabled | 14:55 |
veskuh | scales nicely. now I'll just need to find suitable music.. | 14:55 |
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Sage | veskuh: if you want to test things, you can try if https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home%3Asage%3Abranches%3AMer%3Afake%3ACore%3Aarmv7hl breaks wifi, fixes 3G or breaks camera. Install connman, gstreamer and gst-plugins-base | 15:04 |
w00t | veskuh: got a go from your perspective btw? | 15:04 |
veskuh | w00t: I'll want to check music playback first, just a sec | 15:05 |
w00t | ok | 15:05 |
w00t | oof, zypper up has a long list of stuff to upgrade :D | 15:05 |
* w00t is scared | 15:05 | |
veskuh | w00t: well, for some reason it did not find any ogg files I added to device, but it is surely not because of the UI changes. | 15:11 |
w00t | hmm, it could be | 15:11 |
w00t | where'd you put them? | 15:12 |
veskuh | Music | 15:12 |
w00t | ok | 15:12 |
veskuh | It just indexes the directory right? No tracker or anything like that? | 15:13 |
veskuh | maybe gstreamer has issues? | 15:13 |
w00t | no tracker, but i'd guess it might be looking in the wrong dir | 15:14 |
w00t | let me poke | 15:14 |
w00t | yeah.. | 15:14 |
w00t | if you've another second try mkdir -p MyDocs/Music, and drop them in there, then restart it and see what happens | 15:15 |
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veskuh | Yep, that did it | 15:16 |
w00t | ok, i'll have to patch around that | 15:17 |
w00t | silly harmattanisms.. | 15:17 |
veskuh | The UI works, but playback does not start | 15:18 |
w00t | ugh | 15:19 |
w00t | ok, so more broken than expected | 15:19 |
w00t | never mind that one | 15:19 |
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veskuh | Yep, gstreamer is able to playback. Just not musicshelf | 15:28 |
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w00t | *nod* | 17:02 |
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Stskeeps | Sage: ping | 18:21 |
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Sage | Stskeeps: pong | 18:21 |
Stskeeps | Sage: entire meego-device-adaptation? not even you have access for that :) | 18:22 |
Sage | Stskeeps: no entirely only the n900-configs for now is enough | 18:22 |
Stskeeps | ok | 18:23 |
Sage | just wrote something to the e-mail as a reminder :D | 18:23 |
Stskeeps | added w00t to meego-arm-n900 | 18:27 |
w00t | thanks | 18:27 |
Sage | that should do it :) | 18:29 |
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w00t | I suppose this means I actually have to make that patch now ... | 18:32 |
w00t | :P | 18:32 |
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faenil | evening :) | 19:05 |
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wow23 | so, guys if i would like to install nemo on n900, i need minimum 8gb sdcard or with 4gb will work too? | 19:18 |
Stskeeps | 4gb should be fine | 19:19 |
wow23 | because this video really rocks - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HtzwswaN-k | 19:20 |
wow23 | n9 apps.. :D so what we need to do with n9 app to prevent them to get it work? | 19:21 |
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xruxa | N9 apps, huh? I didn't dig too deep but many issues are 'simply' Harmattan platform APIs that Mer/Nemo does not have | 19:29 |
KaziKluBey_N900 | Looks great xruxa :) Will they be added to the next nemoimage? | 19:31 |
xruxa | Do not think so - even though they are 'free' (as no need to pay for them) I do not have author's consent for redistribution :( | 19:32 |
KaziKluBey_N900 | Aha. But it could be possible if the author is contacted? | 19:35 |
xruxa | Sure ... lets get our app store up and running first - I do not think we should go bundle hundreds of N9 apps into the Nemo image ;) | 19:36 |
wow23 | so, if the image of nemo with last features (like swipe etc) in public? | 19:38 |
KaziKluBey_N900 | Yeah,forgot about the store. At least some of them are working :) | 19:38 |
Stskeeps | follow the meego-handset mailing list for notifications of new reeleases | 19:38 |
xruxa | wow23: yes, the latest image has the swipe gestures, and also the apps demoed in the first video | 19:40 |
Stskeeps | also, they're not swipe gestures | 19:40 |
Stskeeps | they're gesture to switch | 19:40 |
Stskeeps | :P | 19:40 |
Stskeeps | swipe is the nokia closed source stuff :) | 19:40 |
xruxa | good someone cares about the difference ;) | 19:41 |
Stskeeps | yeah.. just keeping lawsuits away ;) | 19:41 |
faenil | is there any way to check antenna signal power on N950/n9? | 19:48 |
faenil | I'd like to compare them, removing the backplate of the n950 | 19:48 |
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captainigloo | somebody knows how to change kernel cmdline with moslo and the n950 ? | 20:20 |
captainigloo | i would like to swith to 32bppp for fbdev | 20:21 |
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