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| Sage | morning | 06:36 |
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| Stskeeps | morn sage | 06:37 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: so they changed the systemd semantics or what happened? | 06:38 |
| Stskeeps | (just trying to form some kind of reason why things blew up) | 06:39 |
| Sage | I looked a bit it yesterday and couldn't fina a reason for that quickly at least | 06:43 |
| Sage | need to install that systemd myself and test | 06:43 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 06:44 |
| Sage | however, I have more ungent things atm. | 06:44 |
| Stskeeps | that's fine | 06:44 |
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| w00t | Sage: so I have other good news (nemo specific) | 07:05 |
| w00t | I got a little bored and hacked on a proof of concept, seeing how easy it would be to port meego-app-contacts to have no deps outside nemo | 07:06 |
| w00t | turns out the answer is "not too difficult", at least to get something running | 07:06 |
| w00t | http://qtl.me/imgbin20111114-7418-1f5c2ey-0.jpg | 07:06 |
| w00t | took me about an hour | 07:06 |
| w00t | so, investing a few more might give us a usable application with some ease | 07:07 |
| iekku | morning | 07:09 |
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| w00t | http://qtl.me/imgbin20111114-8293-10k5aa7-0.jpg :) | 07:37 |
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| xruxa | w00t: the swipe works nicely in the images, thanks. | 07:39 |
| w00t | it has a lot of bugs, i'll try look this week if i get time | 07:41 |
| w00t | (or if you want to, source is available, be my guest :)) | 07:42 |
| xruxa | w00t: that sshot above - you started hacking on new Contacts? | 07:44 |
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| Sage | w00t: didn't meego-app-contacts use eds instead of tracker? | 08:34 |
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| veskuh | Sage: It probably uses qt mobility, and they did qt mobility backend for eds | 08:37 |
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| Sage | veskuh: so it is same API/ABI towards qt-mobility if one uses eds or tracker? | 08:39 |
| veskuh | Sage: yes, that is the idea. (devil is in the details though). | 08:39 |
| Sage | as usual :) | 08:39 |
| veskuh | there is always some nasty things like how to store multiple numbers or group people or.. | 08:40 |
| * Sage doesn't need all the details ;) | 08:41 | |
| w00t | yeah, it'll be ok | 08:43 |
| Sage | ok, time to split up the Project:MTF to pieces | 08:43 |
| Sage | Project:MTF:MW, Project:MTF:UX, Project:MTF:Apps -> CE:MW:MTF, CE:UX:MTF, CE:Apps:MTF | 08:43 |
| w00t | hmm, uh oh | 08:44 |
| Sage | and this doesn't include the tracker crap :P | 08:44 |
| kimju | Project:WTF | 08:45 |
| Sage | :D | 08:45 |
| w00t | hahaha | 08:45 |
| Sage | w00t: anyway, users use some MTF components and we don't want them to push everything to Project:MTF | 08:45 |
| Sage | so CE:MW:MTF should contain the components that allow users to build MTF based apps, libmeegotouch, applauncherd, libcontentaction | 08:46 |
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| w00t | *nod* | 08:47 |
| Sage | so when user submits app to CE:Apps:MTF it gets packages from CE:MW:Shread and CE:MW:MTF | 08:47 |
| Sage | *CE:MW:Shared | 08:47 |
| Sage | did we have a wiki page about this project structure in OBS yet? | 08:49 |
| Sage | I wrote something to somewhere already but not sure where | 08:49 |
| w00t | not sure | 08:50 |
| veskuh | Not that I'm aware of. In the SG at least you described it. | 08:51 |
| veskuh | So the text should be in one of the sg mtg logs. | 08:51 |
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| Sage | lbt: ok, how can I force repo breaks | 08:58 |
| Sage | http://pastie.org/2860686 | 08:59 |
| Sage | I really need to be allowed to rename the repos and not consult every 1000 users that have links against it. | 08:59 |
| lbt | I think there may be a -f | 08:59 |
| lbt | "ImportError: No module named osc" .... mmm something bad happened | 09:01 |
| Sage | http://pastie.org/2860691 <- lbt ? | 09:01 |
| Sage | if you delete a project others will get target "project/deleted" or something | 09:03 |
| lbt | yes | 09:07 |
| lbt | my local box seems a bit screwy - no osc command this am | 09:07 |
| Sage | w00t: so MW:MTF is pretty much https://build.pub.meego.com/project/packages?project=CE%3AMW%3AMTF | 09:15 |
| Sage | or similar | 09:15 |
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| Sage | w00t: you should be able to compile lipstick against that one as well btw | 09:19 |
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| lbt | Sage: what osc version? | 09:48 |
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| lbt | Sage: also, I can go in and delete those links | 09:53 |
| Sage | lbt: well, there is about 30 more that is only the first :P | 10:05 |
| Sage | lbt: and also I have faced that problem so many times that I really would like to get a better solution for this | 10:07 |
| lbt | it's documented to work | 10:10 |
| Sage | lbt: hmmp... you have admin rights, could you try if it works for you? | 10:11 |
| lbt | I did | 10:12 |
| Sage | CE:UX:MTF repos to http://pastie.org/2860890 | 10:12 |
| lbt | same problem | 10:12 |
| Sage | ah, ok | 10:12 |
| Sage | It worked long time ago, i.e., during meego 1.1 or something IIRC | 10:12 |
| Sage | http://pastie.org/2860925 <- proves my point | 10:19 |
| Sage | I have no idea who that is etc. | 10:19 |
| lbt | yeah | 10:23 |
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| Sage | really a blocker for me atm. as there is so many of those branches already :/ | 10:24 |
| Sage | and in the future the amount is just increasing. | 10:24 |
| lbt | Sage: *nod* | 10:24 |
| Sage | Also I really don't want to start naming repos standard everywhere as that doesn't tell anything :/ Currently I name the repo with name that the repo is compiled against. | 10:25 |
| Sage | If the name would be standard I could just change the underlying path without any problems with links | 10:25 |
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| Sage | lbt: obs-community meta prj Project:MTF <- result of the last problem while trying to change reponames :P | 10:46 |
| Sage | had to leave those stubs in that prj :/ | 10:46 |
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| Stskeeps | why the hell is our rpmlint so slow | 10:49 |
| * Stskeeps stares | 10:49 | |
| lbt | Sage: OK | 10:54 |
| * Sage did the same thing for CE:UX:PlasmaActive | 10:54 | |
| araujo | moin | 10:58 |
| Stskeeps | moin araujo | 10:58 |
| araujo | Stskeeps, o/ | 10:58 |
| araujo | any ETA for new Nemo image? | 10:58 |
| araujo | and by the way, what do you mean with: N900: Portrait orientation not working | 10:59 |
| araujo | Portrait orientation works for me in latest image in N900 | 10:59 |
| xruxa | worxforme | 10:59 |
| * xruxa having good success trying to run N9 on N900. Off to work on theme some more! | 11:02 | |
| lardman | morning all | 11:06 |
| veskuh | araujo: portrait did not work for me. hmm.. probably something in my device just then. | 11:07 |
| Sage | NOTE: I have so much rebasing done today for Nemo repos that zypper might get a bit broken for older images. | 11:08 |
| araujo | moin lardman | 11:08 |
| araujo | veskuh, tried rebooting? | 11:09 |
| veskuh | araujo: yep, couple of times. no luck. | 11:09 |
| Sage | xruxa: I'll reject your SR's again, but don't worry I copied those to CE:Apps:MTF already where you should push your updates for those | 11:13 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3069 Rejected promotion request | 11:14 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3067 Rejected promotion request | 11:14 |
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| xruxa | Sage: was expecting that;) - anything I need to do like resend and such - gone to lunch in 5 seconds | 11:14 |
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| Sage | xruxa: not atm. | 11:16 |
| * araujo wonders if BOSS has some web page explaining those errors somehow | 11:20 | |
| araujo | some of them are very clear, others... not so much ... | 11:20 |
| * Stskeeps has to go downtown to sort ongs | 11:21 | |
| Stskeeps | .. | 11:21 |
| Stskeeps | sort out some things | 11:21 |
| phaeron | araujo: which ones | 11:21 |
| araujo | Stskeeps, have fun o/ | 11:21 |
| araujo | phaeron, promotion rejection messages | 11:22 |
| phaeron | araujo: yes I mean which messages ? | 11:22 |
| araujo | phaeron, mm.. the last one I receive about the 'Makefile' in the package, I wasn't so sure what it meant for example | 11:24 |
| araujo | I also remember receiving one about .spec file mismatch ... that was caused because of different spectacle versions , that was not so clear either | 11:27 |
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| phaeron | araujo: ok points noted , we will try to clarify the messages , or link to an explanation like the changelog format thing for example | 11:40 |
| araujo | phaeron++ that'd be great, thanks :) | 11:41 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3071 Rejected promotion request | 12:01 |
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| Sage | w00t: https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=Project%3AMTF%3ATracker | 13:22 |
| Sage | w00t: the tracker ***t :) | 13:22 |
| Stskeeps | why can't we use eds? :P | 13:22 |
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| Sage | http://pastie.org/2861560 <- Stskeeps that poppler to mer is something I need to get these working | 13:26 |
| Stskeeps | yes, i'm planning a new mer release on tuesday or monday | 13:27 |
| Stskeeps | er, wednesday | 13:27 |
| Stskeeps | my OBS isn't, erm, answering atm | 13:27 |
| Sage | yes, it is monday ;) | 13:27 |
| Sage | ok, I think I can look the systemd on wednesday or thursday | 13:28 |
| Sage | I have no idea which ones of thsoe tracker deps we need for our apps | 13:31 |
| Sage | so I guess I'll go with all | 13:31 |
| Sage | this will take so much time :/ | 13:34 |
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| Sage | :headdesk: surprice surprice, I need to get gtk2 as well to get all tracker deps solved :P | 13:47 |
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| Stskeeps | ok, i'd like us to take a look at EDS based instead :P | 13:48 |
| xruxa | lol, serious case of Mondays | 13:48 |
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| Sage | hmm... or maybe... | 13:49 |
| Sage | well, glib2 is enough ;) | 13:50 |
| Stskeeps | hopefully | 13:50 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 13:50 |
| Sage | umm... | 13:51 |
| Sage | why can't my project find the glib2 in mer | 13:52 |
| Stskeeps | it's there, for sure | 13:52 |
| Sage | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=vala&project=Project%3AMTF%3ATracker | 13:52 |
| Stskeeps | uhh | 13:53 |
| Sage | packaging error? | 13:53 |
| Stskeeps | what the hell | 13:53 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 13:53 |
| * Sage goes to look mer glib2 packaging | 13:53 | |
| * Stskeeps too | 13:53 | |
| Sage | that means that the project file is not properly set right? however glib2 has %{_libdir}/pkgconfig/* | 13:54 |
| Stskeeps | no, look at BuildRequires:, it's all weird | 13:55 |
| Sage | http://pastie.org/2861699 | 13:55 |
| Stskeeps | yes, i know | 13:55 |
| Stskeeps | but look at the BuildRequires: | 13:55 |
| Sage | hmm... | 13:56 |
| Stskeeps | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=vala.spec&package=vala&project=Project%3AMTF%3ATracker&srcmd5=802a89535f5242dbf441704e2f8444eb | 13:56 |
| Stskeeps | how did that work in the first place | 13:56 |
| * Sage goes to bang his head on a wall | 13:56 | |
| Sage | my typo ;) | 13:56 |
| Sage | ah, I should have known from the start, that should have said pkgconfig(glib-2.0) | 13:57 |
| Stskeeps | bingo | 13:57 |
| * Sage thinks that it is still monday | 13:57 | |
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| Ans5i | tracker is quite nice, not sure that eds would have fixed that ;) | 13:58 |
| Stskeeps | it has it's issues | 13:59 |
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| Ans5i | well, it is quite generic approach and it leaves room for optimization | 14:11 |
| Ans5i | the team has make good work and tracker is quite good nowdays | 14:13 |
| Ans5i | *made | 14:13 |
| * Sage stares at gtk-doc build dep | 14:15 | |
| Sage | another monday line ;) | 14:16 |
| Sage | \o/ tracker compiling :P | 14:20 |
| * Sage didn't ever think he would like that sentence | 14:21 | |
| Sage | only 13 builddeps before tracker on top of the Mer+MW:Shared+MW:MTF+UX:MTF :) | 14:22 |
| Sage | wow, that is hard to read. Mer + MW:Shared + MW:MTF + UX:MTF | 14:22 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 14:23 |
| Stskeeps | and that's why i don't believe in layering | 14:23 |
| Stskeeps | ;) | 14:23 |
| Sage | o_0 tracker depends on gst-plugins-good on runtime | 14:23 |
| Stskeeps | yeah.. | 14:24 |
| Sage | why? It just wouldn't use those features if gst-plugings-good is not there | 14:24 |
| Stskeeps | i ask myself the same question when i see people use latex for man pages | 14:24 |
| Stskeeps | "WHY" | 14:24 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 14:24 |
| * Sage removes that dep it is not really needed to run tracker | 14:25 | |
| Sage | When all the deps are not there it is easy to see all the extra stuff in packaging. | 14:27 |
| KaIRC | you guys might be interested in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=701784 - Mozilla has stopped running builds for and tests on N900s and now has a stack of unused N900s sitting around | 14:30 |
| Stskeeps | hmm, that might be interesting | 14:31 |
| Stskeeps | though we're sort of in conflict with B2G i guess | 14:33 |
| KaIRC | not really | 14:33 |
| KaIRC | of course, the USB port, screen etc. of those should be in pretty good state as they have been connected to power all the time with nobody plugging stuff in and out every day or running around somewhere with those devices, they just sat around on a shelf running tests and reporting results back online | 14:34 |
| KaIRC | Stskeeps: Mozilla is a non-profit working for oppenness and innovation on the web - so even if there's competition, that's good as long as it alings with those goals :) | 14:35 |
| Stskeeps | KaIRC: i'd probably use them in a test setting too though | 14:36 |
| KaIRC | Stskeeps: well, they're already used to doing that job :) | 14:36 |
| KaIRC | Stskeeps: and if you guys build Firefox mobile builds as well, that's also an argument for you getting at least some of those :) | 14:37 |
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| w00t | Stskeeps: because eds is worse, and unmaintained. plus eds does not solve the other apps using it for storage atm :\. i do plan to work on moving stuff off it but it isnt easy.. | 14:49 |
| w00t | will look when i get home | 14:49 |
| Stskeeps | w00t: i don't suppose we can do things like backport jsondb | 14:49 |
| w00t | boarding | 14:49 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 14:50 |
| Stskeeps | have a good flight | 14:50 |
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| w00t | i am considering jsondb approach yes | 14:54 |
| w00t | need to see how much actual work is required and if upstream would take patches for qt4 | 14:54 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 14:54 |
| w00t | because otherwise it would probably be painful | 14:55 |
| Sage | https://build.pub.meego.com/project/packages?project=Project%3AMTF%3ATracker <- and the mess is ready :P | 14:55 |
| Stskeeps | get off your damn n9 :P | 14:55 |
| w00t | but it would probably be quite futureproof | 14:55 |
| w00t | waiting for the bus tp pick us up :) | 14:55 |
| veskuh | Sage: Wow :) | 14:56 |
| w00t | apparently nobody told them we were bpardong :P | 14:56 |
| w00t | boarding | 14:56 |
| w00t | lmao at that typo... | 14:56 |
| Sage | veskuh: still a bit more work needed | 14:56 |
| veskuh | Sage: yep, "nothing provides meegolocale" | 14:57 |
| Sage | that is the meegolabs-ux-components having a minor packaging bug | 14:57 |
| w00t | i have good progress on contacts app btw | 14:58 |
| w00t | might be able to show some tomorrow | 14:58 |
| w00t | so that is one less mtf user if it can happen :) | 14:58 |
| xruxa | w00t: cool. I was pondering UI specs for it without knowing. Lemme see your ;) | 14:58 |
| Sage | veskuh: so we should soon to be able to test if dialer actually works or not | 15:02 |
| veskuh | great | 15:02 |
| Stskeeps | i know someone else who has a different UX and has working phone on n950+mer | 15:02 |
| Stskeeps | so hw adaptation should be OK | 15:03 |
| Sage | nice | 15:03 |
| Stskeeps | btw | 15:03 |
| Stskeeps | can the camera capture issues be related to missing gstreamer plugins? | 15:03 |
| Sage | it could be yes | 15:04 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 15:04 |
| Sage | nothing provides meego-ux-components needed by meegolabs-ux-components, nothing provides meego-ux-theme needed by meegolabs-ux-components | 15:05 |
| Sage | x) | 15:05 |
| Stskeeps | can we drop that? | 15:05 |
| Sage | dialer has lots of things that we should drop | 15:05 |
| veskuh | tried to install sms. nothing provides smshistory | 15:05 |
| xruxa | what (the hell) is meego-ux-theme :) | 15:05 |
| veskuh | xruxa: meego-ux is intel's ux | 15:05 |
| veskuh | for tablets mostly | 15:06 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: lets try first to get it compile and install | 15:06 |
| Sage | veskuh: hmmp | 15:06 |
| xruxa | Love the swipe gesture! Get back Dialer and SML and it is usable. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxQLIjcYAMU | 15:07 |
| Stskeeps | +1 | 15:07 |
| Sage | +1 | 15:08 |
| crevetor | +1 | 15:09 |
| Sage | wow, my xbmc compile finished on top of Mer | 15:09 |
| crevetor | It's awesome | 15:09 |
| crevetor | Stskeeps: Remember last week you told me to ask you for the LLVMpipe stuff today. | 15:10 |
| crevetor | Stskeeps: So I ask : any pointers on how to get LLVMpipe working on Mer/Nemo ? | 15:11 |
| Stskeeps | crevetor: no, i don't, but i will find my notes now :P | 15:11 |
| Sage | veskuh: smshistory compiling | 15:11 |
| Stskeeps | sec | 15:11 |
| crevetor | K | 15:11 |
| * veskuh just sent an sms with N950+Mer+Nemo | 15:13 | |
| Sage | veskuh: \o/ | 15:13 |
| veskuh | Starts without the dependency | 15:14 |
| veskuh | sending works, apparently receiving not | 15:14 |
| crevetor | Stskeeps: also is it normal that swrast doesn't support EGL_KHR_lock_surface2 ? | 15:14 |
| Stskeeps | yes, probably | 15:15 |
| crevetor | K | 15:15 |
| crevetor | so meegographicssystem can't work with swrast I guess | 15:15 |
| Stskeeps | crevetor: now where did i put my llvmpipe notes.. | 15:16 |
| Stskeeps | crevetor: give me your email | 15:16 |
| Sage | veskuh: dialer also there now | 15:16 |
| crevetor | Stskeeps: thanks | 15:17 |
| Sage | hmmp... 35 packages and 5 apps... not good | 15:20 |
| veskuh | with smshistory+reboot receiving and sending works | 15:23 |
| veskuh | dialer does not seem to work. does not draw ui. | 15:24 |
| veskuh | this is on my n950 | 15:24 |
| Stskeeps | anything in .xsession-errors? | 15:24 |
| Sage | veskuh: any error in /home/meego/.xsession-errors | 15:24 |
| veskuh | Ah, it draws the menubar but no content. Nothing special in .xsession-errors.. I see MApplicationService: Calling launch() in other application with service : "com.meego.dialer". and no errors after that.. | 15:28 |
| veskuh | And from command line launch: Failed to load QML Component: "file:///usr/share/meego-handset-dialer/qml/main.qml:13 module "QtMobility.contacts" is not installed | 15:29 |
| Stskeeps | ah duh.. | 15:29 |
| veskuh | so missing dependecy to libdeclarative-contacts | 15:31 |
| veskuh | I see ui after install | 15:31 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 15:31 |
| Sage | need to fix that packaging | 15:32 |
| veskuh | I can call but no voice | 15:32 |
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| veskuh | Also SMS and Dialer did not go to quick launch bar, just to last screen of launch grid | 15:36 |
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| veskuh | no audio on n900 either | 16:29 |
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| Stskeeps | ok, still some way to go then | 16:33 |
| veskuh | people app seems to work and sms is able to pick up the contact from there so the evil tracker is alive | 16:34 |
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| befr0d | hello | 18:07 |
| befr0d | I get this when trying to build nemo-handset-armv7hl-n900-testing-0.20111104.1.CE.2011-11-10.1.ks -- Error: failed to create image : Failed to find package 'usb-moded-config-n900' : No package(s) available to install | 18:10 |
| Stskeeps | hm, sage would know but i think he's on the move atm | 18:11 |
| Stskeeps | we might have screwed things up since we are moving around stuff atm | 18:11 |
| befr0d | cool, I'll try it later then | 18:12 |
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| lbt | Any artistic types need an open-hardware colorimeter? http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2011/11/13/introducing-the-colorhug-open-source-colorimeter/ | 20:44 |
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| niqt | hi | 20:58 |
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| Sage | befr0d: need to change repos a bit for new images to create properly. I didn't have time to do that today, I'll try to sync the .ks file at git tomorrow | 21:11 |
| befr0d | thanks Sage | 21:17 |
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