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| tortoisedoc_ | hey mer guys! | 08:50 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | when compiling in the mer sdk, i get | 08:51 |
| tortoisedoc_ | main::scan_file() called too early to check prototype at /usr/bin/aclocal line 617. | 08:51 |
| tortoisedoc_ | (for autogen) | 08:51 |
| tortoisedoc_ | and then it complains later about AC_PROG_LIBTOOL | 08:51 |
| tortoisedoc_ | being missing | 08:51 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | hmm seems i might need to run libtoolize | 08:53 |
| tortoisedoc_ | ...aand it's time for upgrade then :| | 08:59 |
| lbt | tortoisedoc_: let us know if that works | 09:11 |
| tortoisedoc_ | lbt : will do | 09:11 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | i know i shouldnt | 09:16 |
| tortoisedoc_ | ..but updating the whole sdk - isnt it a bit, well, hardcore? | 09:16 |
| * tortoisedoc_ *ducks* | 09:16 | |
| lbt | and? | 09:20 |
| lbt | :) | 09:20 |
| lbt | srsly - in what way? | 09:21 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | lbt: i mean, an update process a bit more fine-grained? | 09:34 |
| tortoisedoc_ | the vm is alinux distro in the no? i.e. pkg based update? | 09:34 |
| tortoisedoc_ | *in the end | 09:34 |
| lbt | ah - you mean the sailfish SDK ? | 09:36 |
| lbt | the mer sdk uses zypper and dup | 09:37 |
| lbt | for various reasons the jolla one doesn't do that (mainly due to the difficulty of tying that into the QtCreator package updater iirc) | 09:38 |
| tortoisedoc_ | lbt : aah ok that makes sense | 09:42 |
| tortoisedoc_ | is mer used somewhere else than jolla atm? | 09:43 |
| tortoisedoc_ | i know at least raspberry pi runs it right? | 09:43 |
| tortoisedoc_ | (or can run it) | 09:43 |
| tbr | I think plasma still uses it in some form | 09:43 |
| lbt | yes it is - at least 2 other companies are using it | 09:43 |
| lbt | yep - not sure what's happening in plasma - the makeplaylive project died sadly | 09:44 |
| lbt | hopefully the mer base will still prove useful | 09:44 |
| tortoisedoc_ | http://makeplaylive.com/ <- this one? | 09:44 |
| lbt | jolla are rather dominant in mer of course - since they were able to hire quite a few people | 09:45 |
| lbt | yes | 09:45 |
| tortoisedoc_ | and other mobile manufacturers? :) | 09:46 |
| lbt | not yet - but now jolla have demonstrated how viable it is then I'm optimistic | 09:47 |
| tortoisedoc_ | i read from the mer site there are plans to share effort with tizen? | 09:48 |
| lbt | I should fix that :) | 09:48 |
| piiramar | lol | 09:48 |
| lbt | we wrote some blurb at the start but tbh the only real Tizen comms was via upstream | 09:49 |
| lbt | it was a kind of olive branch post-meego | 09:49 |
| tortoisedoc_ | :D | 09:49 |
| piiramar | makes sense | 09:50 |
| tortoisedoc_ | so tizen != mer | 09:50 |
| tbr | tizen cowering in some corner, waiting to be put down by its corporate overlords. Only to be resurected under $new_name with $new_corporate_partners | 09:50 |
| tortoisedoc_ | sounds familiar? :P | 09:50 |
| lbt | tortoisedoc_: absolutely not | 09:51 |
| tbr | I wonder if again "everyone is on vacation" until september/october... | 09:51 |
| lbt | mer is "meego done right" | 09:51 |
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| lbt | tbr: yes | 09:51 |
| tbr | lbt: ugh, history repeating itself | 09:51 |
| lbt | you live there | 09:51 |
| piiramar | lbt: that would spell "Mdr" then ... I guess "Mer" was just easier to pronounce? ;-) | 09:52 |
| lbt | piiramar: mer came before meego | 09:52 |
| piiramar | ah, true | 09:52 |
| tortoisedoc_ | tbr : "everyone is on vacation" ? | 09:53 |
| tortoisedoc_ | update finished! | 09:54 |
| * tortoisedoc_ *crossing fingers* | 09:54 | |
| tbr | tortoisedoc_: when MeeGo died, intel pretended for the whole summer that things were just super slow because "everyone is on vacation" | 09:54 |
| lbt | tbr: :P | 09:55 |
| tbr | while in reality they were forging ties with Samsung and coining Tizen | 09:55 |
| tortoisedoc_ | nice example of professionality :P | 09:55 |
| * lbt quietly hides the emails from Redmond | 09:55 | |
| tortoisedoc_ | :O | 09:55 |
| tortoisedoc_ | Redmond + mer? O_o | 09:55 |
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| lbt | they're considering our offer... :D | 09:55 |
| SK_work | lbt: why not calling mer mdr then (meego done right ?) | 09:55 |
| SK_work | (mdr in fr = mort de rire = lol) | 09:56 |
| lbt | SK_work: mainly 'cos mer came before meego | 09:56 |
| SK_work | ah true | 09:57 |
| SK_work | based on ubuntu | 09:57 |
| tortoisedoc_ | lbt : offer to scrap winphone and swith to mer ? | 09:58 |
| tbr | SK_work: they didn't want to keep the old name of Nemo: developer edition. MerDE would have been fun | 09:58 |
| tortoisedoc_ | :D | 09:58 |
| tortoisedoc_ | SK_work : mer on ubuntu? | 09:58 |
| tortoisedoc_ | wasnt it rpm based from the start? | 09:59 |
| tortoisedoc_ | i.e. rh / suse / etc? | 09:59 |
| SK_work | tortoisedoc_: mer was based on ubuntu before | 09:59 |
| tortoisedoc_ | so mer came before meego | 10:00 |
| tortoisedoc_ | which came after maemo | 10:00 |
| tortoisedoc_ | and mobil | 10:00 |
| tortoisedoc_ | *moblin | 10:00 |
| * tortoisedoc_ is confused | 10:00 | |
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| piiramar | I guess lbt needs to drop all work for a couple of days, and write a proper history article ;-) | 10:01 |
| tortoisedoc_ | lol | 10:01 |
| tbr | those exist already | 10:01 |
| tbr | funny tree diagrams about all things | 10:01 |
| tortoisedoc_ | yeah i saw them | 10:02 |
| tbr | whoa, massive thunderstorm reaches tampere | 10:02 |
| tortoisedoc_ | and am as clewer as I was before seeing them : | 10:02 |
| tortoisedoc_ | tbr : lucky bast3rds :P | 10:02 |
| tortoisedoc_ | here in espoo its +35 | 10:02 |
| piiramar | tbr: also nice thunder here in oulu currently | 10:02 |
| tortoisedoc_ | ;_; | 10:02 |
| tortoisedoc_ | constant sauna | 10:02 |
| tortoisedoc_ | with no kiuas | 10:03 |
| tbr | someone left the sauna door open | 10:03 |
| tbr | tortoisedoc_: some of this front should reach PKS too, a bit later | 10:04 |
| tortoisedoc_ | PKS? | 10:04 |
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| piiramar | pääkaupunkiseutu I guess? | 10:05 |
| tbr | zes | 10:05 |
| tbr | yes | 10:05 |
| tortoisedoc_ | Espoo? :P | 10:06 |
| * tbr thought that was a common abbreviation. at least saw it frequently over the last few months while going through job ads and such | 10:06 | |
| tortoisedoc_ | tbr : looking for a job? | 10:06 |
| tbr | yes | 10:07 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | that sucks, best of luck! | 10:07 |
| tbr | thanks, I'll need it | 10:08 |
| tortoisedoc_ | plan to keep on staying in finland?= | 10:08 |
| tbr | yes, move here years ago for good. | 10:10 |
| tbr | my finncrypt codec is slowly getting there, but only slowly | 10:11 |
| piiramar | :-) | 10:11 |
| tortoisedoc_ | tbr : I know what you mean | 10:12 |
| SK_work | ha, the infamous finncrypt codec :d | 10:12 |
| tortoisedoc_ | lbt : installing libtool from qtcreator tool (if you pass the wordplay) is the correct way right=? | 10:13 |
| lbt | tortoisedoc_: mmm - there should be a BR for it then as it's clearly not in the build-essential base | 10:14 |
| lbt | which, afaik is ill-defined | 10:14 |
| tortoisedoc_ | someone translate please? :P | 10:15 |
| tortoisedoc_ | BR = build requirements? | 10:15 |
| tortoisedoc_ | hmm libtool installed but not yet available on mersdk | 10:15 |
| tortoisedoc_ | ah! im not in sb :D | 10:15 |
| * tortoisedoc_ facepalm | 10:15 | |
| SK_work | tortoisedoc_: I wanted to ask if you were in sdk or in sb | 10:16 |
| SK_work | :D | 10:16 |
| SK_work | good you figured it out alone :) | 10:16 |
| tortoisedoc_ | ok | 10:17 |
| tortoisedoc_ | its here | 10:17 |
| tortoisedoc_ | here we go with autogen.sh | 10:17 |
| tortoisedoc_ | flies like the wind | 10:18 |
| tortoisedoc_ | ;D | 10:18 |
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| Uninstall | SK_work: hello | 10:18 |
| SK_work | hi Uninstall | 10:18 |
| Uninstall | how's going? | 10:18 |
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| SK_work | Uninstall: fine | 10:36 |
| Uninstall | SK_work: I have a question about rpm... do you remember what 0011....patch is used for? | 10:37 |
| SK_work | question about rpm ? | 10:37 |
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| SK_work | that's not for me | 10:37 |
| SK_work | :D | 10:37 |
| SK_work | don't know at all :D | 10:37 |
| Uninstall | oh, right | 10:39 |
| Uninstall | I thought that your nick was the short version of Stskeepz | 10:39 |
| SK_work | :D | 10:39 |
| SK_work | I'm Sfiet_Konstantin usually :d | 10:39 |
| artemma | except for the airport border control :) | 10:40 |
| SK_work | :D | 10:41 |
| * tbr idly ponders if it's worth booking this and if he's going to see familiar faces there - http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/linuxcon-europe/extend-the-experience/community-management-workshop | 10:45 | |
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| piiramar | tbr: fwiw, "Jono Bacon, Ubuntu Community Manager at Canonical" is out-of-date info, he's community mgr at X-PRIZE nowadays | 11:05 |
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| tbr | piiramar: I know and chuckle every time I see that | 11:16 |
| piiramar | :-) | 11:18 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | lbt: no udev? | 12:56 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | lbt : meaning, libudev-devel cannot be found from the sdk installer | 13:02 |
| tortoisedoc_ | *the sdk tools (damnit) | 13:02 |
| tortoisedoc_ | hmm interesting | 13:03 |
| tortoisedoc_ | could it be part of systemd? | 13:03 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | bingo :) | 13:06 |
| * tortoisedoc_ facepalms | 13:06 | |
| tortoisedoc_ | sometimes i type too early | 13:07 |
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| tbr | lbt: I can't download files through OBS web interface, is that expected? It just reloads the page. | 20:04 |
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