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Bostik | oh dear $deity, no.... https://github.com/trevorlinton/webkit.js | 22:17 |
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CosmoHill | cyas | 23:25 |
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benthorben | so, I just found my email and xmpp passwords in a plain sqlite database in /home/nemo/... | 23:41 |
benthorben | where do I complain? ;) | 23:41 |
benthorben | (/home/nemo on a jolla phone that is) | 23:42 |
benthorben | the service that stores these passwords seems to date back to the days of meego | 23:43 |
special | (and it is a massive pain in the ass.) | 23:44 |
benthorben | (was that a response to me or to something else that happened before I joined?) | 23:45 |
M4rtinK | benthorben: well, they do need to have access to their plaintext form anyway... | 23:45 |
special | benthorben: no, I'm referring to signond | 23:45 |
M4rtinK | benthorben: for email at least, maybe xmpp is more sophisticated | 23:45 |
M4rtinK | benthorben: but yeah, some form of keyring would be preferable | 23:46 |
benthorben | of course the passwords need to be there in plaintext at runtime | 23:46 |
benthorben | but... I'd do something along the lines of a file mounted as a cryptoloopdevice at boot time (unlocked by pin or similar) | 23:48 |
benthorben | every program that runs as user "nemo" can now steal my passwords | 23:48 |
benthorben | that sucks hard | 23:48 |
special | it does | 23:48 |
special | might be worth a post to together.jolla.com, but I'll go write some things on the internal bug about it too | 23:48 |
special | it's a hard problem to solve correctly, and not just because of the at-rest storage | 23:49 |
M4rtinK | yeah, I would basically say grab the KDE keyring code, comment out what does not compile and use that :) | 23:49 |
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M4rtinK | (according to a KDE developer I've talked to recently, this is basically how the Sailfish calendar backend code came to being :) ) | 23:51 |
benthorben | I agree that it's hard. | 23:51 |
special | M4rtinK: meego did it originally, but yeah, we took it from there. | 23:51 |
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benthorben | (not sure how I feel about reusing that much stuff though...) | 23:53 |
M4rtinK | special: why not, if time is short :) | 23:53 |
M4rtinK | special: if you can manage maintaining it afterwards of course :) | 23:53 |
special | benthorben: my feeling is: 1) we should fix permissions so only the daemon that needs that db can access it; 2) we should think about home directory encryption as a whole; 3) at a lower priority, a real keyring system would be nice. | 23:57 |
benthorben | special: home directory encryption would be pretty neat but is only of real use in case of an offline attack (i.e., someone steals the device and dumps the filesystem) | 23:59 |
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