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[ui] | i have a sitting raspberry pi. Want to install mer on it. | 05:28 |
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[ui] | i have the mer core downloaded ready. | 05:29 |
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Superpelican | Stskeeps:How's the migration to Wayland going? | 08:11 |
Superpelican | I saw the next Mer release still contains X stuff | 08:12 |
Stskeeps | sure | 08:12 |
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Stskeeps | and it will for foreseeable future | 08:13 |
Superpelican | Stskeeps:I heard someone mention on IRC that the next Nemo release would be Wayland only | 08:13 |
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Stskeeps | it doesn't affect ability to run wayland | 08:13 |
Superpelican | Stskeeps:So what's still needs to be done? | 08:13 |
Stskeeps | nothing really; wayland runs fine on top of it | 08:14 |
Superpelican | oh | 08:14 |
Superpelican | I meant what needs to be done for Nemo | 08:14 |
Superpelican | But it's of course great to hear that Wayland runs so well :) | 08:14 |
Stskeeps | moving to qt5 and wayland in general | 08:15 |
Superpelican | I heard Nemo is going to use new components? | 08:15 |
Superpelican | as in QML components | 08:15 |
Stskeeps | prolly | 08:15 |
Superpelican | But I heard that they were porting the old components first to Qt5 | 08:15 |
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Superpelican | and then porting the core apps to the Qt5 old components | 08:16 |
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Superpelican | But isn't it more efficient to create the new components first? | 08:16 |
Superpelican | And then move to Qt5/Wayland? | 08:16 |
Bostik | that would be the logical path of least surprises | 08:16 |
Superpelican | Bostik:And are there any plans for using Qt 5.1 QML components or Silica components for Nemo? | 08:17 |
Bostik | I honestly don't know (and thus can't speak for) Nemo plans, I see the ripples in here going both directions only | 08:18 |
Bostik | but I would expect them to prefer 5.1 | 08:19 |
Guest27227 | Hi, all. Are there any ks file for creating minimal boot-to-bash mer image? | 08:19 |
Superpelican | ok then I'll try it at #nemomobile | 08:19 |
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Superpelican | vgrade:Source code should never have an executable perm, right? | 08:29 |
Superpelican | Because I noticed that a lot of files in a particular dir have a spurious executable perm | 08:29 |
Superpelican | so maybe I can just use a wild card | 08:29 |
Superpelican | That saves a lot of work | 08:29 |
Superpelican | unless it's a script of course | 08:30 |
Superpelican | but there aren't any scripts in that dir | 08:30 |
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Bostik | Superpelican: probably an artifact from someone editing files in windows | 08:33 |
Superpelican | yes | 08:33 |
Superpelican | Bostik:probably | 08:33 |
Superpelican | because | 08:33 |
Superpelican | there are also errors of non-Unix end of line | 08:33 |
Superpelican | and wrong encoding | 08:33 |
Superpelican | Bostik:It turned out to be less work than I thought | 08:33 |
Superpelican | all there errors are in 2 dirs | 08:34 |
Superpelican | I can easily do chmod -x /path/to/* | 08:34 |
Superpelican | there are no scripts in the dirs | 08:34 |
Superpelican | only c source code files and header files | 08:34 |
Superpelican | yay my 3 line script worked | 08:35 |
Superpelican | s/there/the | 08:37 |
Superpelican | s/line/lines | 08:37 |
Superpelican | s/encoding/encoding errors | 08:37 |
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Ji | Hello | 10:08 |
sledgeSim | Hi | 10:09 |
Ji | I got a problem when creating image of Mipsel from mer repo | 10:09 |
sledgeSim | ah yes I read your email on ml | 10:09 |
Ji | seems systemd and dbus are failed to be installed into the temp file system | 10:09 |
Ji | but I can create image of ARM version | 10:10 |
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Stskeeps | Ji: how do you make the image? mer platform sdk and mic inside it? | 10:10 |
Ji | yes | 10:11 |
Stskeeps | ok | 10:11 |
sledgeSim | where did you take .ks from? | 10:11 |
sledgeSim | is it generated by mer-kickstarter (mer-core-mipsel-base.ks) ? | 10:11 |
Ji | just get one from mer repo and modify it | 10:11 |
Ji | just add one line of repo address | 10:12 |
Stskeeps | Ji: can you show the surrounding 5 lines from when the errors happen in log? | 10:12 |
Ji | OK | 10:12 |
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Ji | error: %pre(systemd-187-1.1.29.mipsel) scriptlet failed, exit status 127 error: systemd-187-1.1.29.mipsel: install failed error: %pre(dbus-1.6.8-1.1.8.mipsel) scriptlet failed, exit status 127 error: dbus-1.6.8-1.1.8.mipsel: install failed CreatorError: <creator>Unable to install: Rpmdb checksum is invalid: dCDPT(pkg checksums) | 10:13 |
Ji | sorry , let me make it better to read | 10:14 |
Ji | error: %pre(systemd-187-1.1.29.mipsel) scriptlet failed, exit status 127 | 10:14 |
sledgeSim | use pastebin pls | 10:14 |
Ji | error: systemd-187-1.1.29.mipsel: install failed | 10:14 |
sledgeSim | too late | 10:14 |
sledgeSim | :) | 10:14 |
Ji | error: %pre(dbus-1.6.8-1.1.8.mipsel) scriptlet failed, exit status 127 | 10:14 |
Ji | error: dbus-1.6.8-1.1.8.mipsel: install failed | 10:15 |
Ji | CreatorError: <creator>Unable to install: Rpmdb checksum is invalid: dCDPT(pkg checksums) | 10:15 |
Ji | ok ~~I am new here | 10:15 |
Ji | not really familar with IRC :) | 10:15 |
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Ji | seems there are some prblem happend on the preinstall scripts | 10:17 |
Ji | But it is diffcult to debug | 10:17 |
Superpelican | vgrade:ping | 10:21 |
sledgeSim | Ji, you have to take mipsel .ks | 10:22 |
sledgeSim | not any other | 10:22 |
sledgeSim | armv7hl has nothing to do with mipsel | 10:23 |
Ji | So, I need generate on by myself? | 10:24 |
sledgeSim | yes | 10:24 |
sledgeSim | go to mer sdk | 10:24 |
sledgeSim | sudo zypper install mer-kickstarter mer-kickstarter-configs | 10:24 |
sledgeSim | mer-kickstarter -o /tmp/out-ks -c mer-reference-images/00reference.yaml | 10:24 |
Ji | Thanks very much | 10:24 |
sledgeSim | and then build mer-core-mipsel-base.ks (or any other flavour you need, e.g. with connectivity and/or xorg | 10:24 |
Ji | where i can get a 00reference.yaml file? | 10:25 |
sledgeSim | sorry, do this: | 10:26 |
sledgeSim | cd /usr/share/kickstarter-configs | 10:26 |
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Ji | Thanks, I will try it now :) | 10:26 |
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sledgeSim | so what we learned here, if you want mer mipsel, don't go and take .ks from releases/0.20130620.0.1/images/nemo-armv7hl-n950/ | 10:26 |
sledgeSim | :) | 10:26 |
Ji | yes, got it. Thanks for your help. I know the question is too basic | 10:27 |
sledgeSim | (what you told me you did in pvt ;)) | 10:27 |
* sledgeSim thinks wiki needs to be updated more clearly about the power of mer-kickstarter | 10:28 | |
Ji | :) | 10:28 |
Ji | yes, it is hard to find one | 10:28 |
Ji | I tried to find the solution | 10:28 |
Ji | most of the document said that I need to have exist one and modify it | 10:29 |
Ji | :) | 10:29 |
sledgeSim | yes, especially when mer does not anymore host generated .ks files since a year.. | 10:30 |
sledgeSim | which document have you been looking into?) | 10:30 |
Ji | Cant remember, let me check with that | 10:31 |
sledgeSim | thanks | 10:32 |
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dm8tbr | sledgeSim: don't forget to vote for Nils though :) | 10:37 |
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Ji | sledgeSim: sorry that I can find it | 10:38 |
Ji | how about I notice you later if I meet it? | 10:38 |
sledgeSim | sounds good Ji :) | 10:39 |
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Ji | Thanks again :) | 10:39 |
sledgeSim | have fun! | 10:40 |
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Superpelican | vgrade:My kernel adaptation build has finally succeeded! :) | 11:02 |
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Ji | Hello, | 11:45 |
Ji | I got problem when creating the Image of mipsel from mer repo. | 11:46 |
Ji | Now the Image of mipsel can not be created due to there is pattern error: nothing provides coreutils needed by pattern:mer-core-.noarch, | 11:47 |
Ji | but I have checked the pattern in repodata, seems coreutils is in the pattern. | 11:48 |
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sledgeSim | ...and if you replace @Mer Core wish coreutils, it says: Warning: repo problem: coreutils-1:6.9-1.1.25.mipsel is not installable, | 11:51 |
sledgeSim | :{ Stskeeps? ^ | 11:51 |
Ji | not installable, some times mean the package required by coreutils can not be met. | 11:52 |
Ji | let me check the source code of coreutils | 11:52 |
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sledgeSim | Ji, except basesystem, nothing is installable from @Mer Core Utils pattern | 11:53 |
sledgeSim | in MIPSel case | 11:53 |
Stskeeps | might be bug in mic | 11:54 |
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sledgeSim | not bash, not boardname, not coreutils, and I stopped trying afterwards :) | 11:54 |
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sledgeSim | Stskeeps, but with armv7hl all ok | 11:54 |
Ji | yes | 11:54 |
Ji | I also successfully generated the image of arm | 11:55 |
sledgeSim | Stskeeps, it's libzypp's problem then (at least the error comes from there) | 11:59 |
Ji | not a dependency problem ? | 11:59 |
sledgeSim | or something gone bad in mipsel virtualisation | 11:59 |
Ji | I guess so, do you know how to keep the mipsel virtualisation after the creating | 12:00 |
sledgeSim | i'll try some older mer release first | 12:00 |
Ji | I fount it always be removed after creating | 12:00 |
sledgeSim | (not the latest) | 12:00 |
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Stskeeps | yes the problem is in libsolv | 12:02 |
Ji | can I solve this problem by simply replace it to another version? | 12:04 |
sledgeSim | erm, I just tried oldest mer release (2012) - same problem | 12:04 |
sledgeSim | the problem is in mersdk apparently | 12:04 |
sledgeSim | where libsolv resides | 12:04 |
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Ji | so need a new bug created? | 12:09 |
sledgeSim | yes please | 12:09 |
Ji | OK, I will do that | 12:09 |
Ji | :) | 12:09 |
sledgeSim | this is where to start debugging in libsolv: https://pastee.org/5pg2k | 12:10 |
Ji | OK I will try to check it | 12:10 |
Ji | try to fix | 12:10 |
sledgeSim | you will need to git clone this: http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer-core/libsolv.git;a=tree | 12:11 |
sledgeSim | and use mb tool in sdk to compile and debug locallt | 12:12 |
sledgeSim | (having created mer i486 target first) | 12:12 |
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Ji | Thanks a lot, it is really helpful | 12:13 |
sledgeSim | and that's "basically" it :) you are ready to start fixing mersdk core bits yourself ;) | 12:13 |
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Ji | :) | 12:14 |
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sledgeSim | or not :D | 12:31 |
sledgeSim | Stskeeps, looks like compiling libsolv locally is not for us mere mortals: https://pastee.org/zrp45 | 12:31 |
sledgeSim | :) | 12:31 |
Ji | :) | 12:33 |
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Ji | Bug 791 - Failed to create image of mipsel from mer repo | 12:37 |
Merbot | Mer bug 791 in mic "Failed to create image of mipsel from mer repo" [Normal,New] https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=791 | 12:37 |
sledgeSim | many thanks Ji | 12:37 |
Ji | it is ok :) | 12:37 |
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sledgeSim | ok, mb tool failed, but OBS did build libsolv https://build.merproject.org/package/show?package=libsolv&project=home%3Asledge%3Amer | 16:30 |
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anidel | hi | 18:19 |
Stskeeps | lo anidel | 18:20 |
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anidel | hi stskeeps! | 18:20 |
anidel | how are you doing? | 18:21 |
Stskeeps | fine fine; trying to balance working life and new son | 18:21 |
anidel | I guess that's a bit hard, but maneageable I suppose | 18:22 |
Stskeeps | and the usual, mer, qt5, wayland, libhybris | 18:22 |
anidel | ah so working life != mer, qt5, wayland, libhybris? | 18:22 |
anidel | :) | 18:22 |
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Stskeeps | hehe, it is working life :) | 18:22 |
anidel | :) | 18:23 |
Stskeeps | doing really amazing things with it | 18:23 |
anidel | speaking of which :p I know (used to at least) my way around building kernels etc, you think it'll be too hard to attemp porting Mer on the Tizen reference device (which is an S3 basically)? | 18:23 |
anidel | I guess so! and can't wait to try it out on my Jolla device when it comes out! | 18:24 |
Stskeeps | mm, i bricked my tizen device trying | 18:24 |
Stskeeps | prolly easier now | 18:24 |
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anidel | was it the same that was given at the Tizen conf in SFO few months ago? | 18:24 |
Stskeeps | hmm no | 18:24 |
Stskeeps | first tizen conf | 18:24 |
anidel | that one was an S2 I think... | 18:24 |
Superpelican | Stskeeps:If it is a S3, can't you flash Android on it then? | 18:25 |
Stskeeps | i put mer/qt5/wayland on an alcatel one touch fire over the weekend | 18:25 |
anidel | new one is more powerful , it's a GT-I9300 (i.e. S3) | 18:25 |
Stskeeps | lovely little kit | 18:25 |
anidel | no you can't, it has uboot... | 18:25 |
Superpelican | :( | 18:25 |
Stskeeps | @ 95eur | 18:25 |
anidel | I saw it :) | 18:25 |
Superpelican | Stskeeps:Does it run better than a N900? | 18:25 |
Stskeeps | Superpelican: yes-ish but has limitations | 18:26 |
Superpelican | N900 has a Cortex A8 | 18:26 |
Superpelican | @ 600 mhz | 18:26 |
Superpelican | alcatel @ 1 GHz | 18:26 |
Superpelican | but Cortex A5 | 18:26 |
anidel | Mozilla team did a gorgeous job then | 18:26 |
Superpelican | Stskeeps:As in? | 18:26 |
Stskeeps | well | 18:26 |
Stskeeps | hw wise yes | 18:27 |
Superpelican | can't open too many apps? | 18:27 |
Stskeeps | ui...... | 18:27 |
Stskeeps | Superpelican: right, constraints | 18:27 |
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Superpelican | But does the UI run smoothly? | 18:27 |
Stskeeps | it does | 18:27 |
Superpelican | well then it's pretty ok | 18:28 |
Stskeeps | ok, to be exact | 18:28 |
Superpelican | you can't expect to run 4+ apps on a lowend device IMO | 18:28 |
Stskeeps | ffos doesnt run too nice | 18:28 |
Superpelican | yeah | 18:28 |
Superpelican | but Nemo | 18:28 |
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Stskeeps | mer plus qt5 plus wayland does | 18:28 |
Superpelican | :) | 18:28 |
Superpelican | then it's ok | 18:28 |
Superpelican | that's what matters ;) | 18:28 |
anidel | you guys are doing an amazing job in optimising Qt5 | 18:29 |
Stskeeps | thanks | 18:29 |
Stskeeps | and more to comee | 18:30 |
Superpelican | :) | 18:30 |
anidel | thanks to you :) | 18:30 |
Stskeeps | -e | 18:30 |
Superpelican | and Sailfish already ran nicely on the N950 with Qt4 :) | 18:30 |
anidel | I | 18:30 |
anidel | I'm still waiting for my t-shirt so that I can enter the competition for the voucher ;0 | 18:31 |
Stskeeps | hehe | 18:31 |
Superpelican | me too | 18:32 |
Superpelican | tracking code not yet activated :( | 18:32 |
anidel | yeah same here | 18:32 |
Superpelican | anidel:Where are you located? | 18:33 |
anidel | London, UK | 18:33 |
Superpelican | ah | 18:33 |
anidel | you? | 18:33 |
Superpelican | then were at the same height :) | 18:33 |
Superpelican | the Netherlands | 18:33 |
anidel | but you're closer to Helsinki :P | 18:33 |
Superpelican | a little bit | 18:34 |
anidel | I heard people in Italy got them already | 18:34 |
Superpelican | strange, isn't it? | 18:34 |
Superpelican | and people in Czech too | 18:34 |
Superpelican | and lots of people in Fi | 18:34 |
Superpelican | of course | 18:34 |
anidel | kinda..not sure what "protocol" they are using to ship them. I only know I want them asap :) | 18:34 |
Superpelican | anidel:Are you on identi.ca? | 18:34 |
Superpelican | +1 | 18:35 |
anidel | nope why | 18:35 |
Superpelican | I'm curious if I'm the only one | 18:35 |
Superpelican | having trouble with it | 18:35 |
Superpelican | since they migrated to new software :( | 18:35 |
anidel | I see, no I'm not | 18:35 |
Superpelican | it's useless now for me | 18:35 |
Superpelican | most of the time I can't reach their site at all | 18:35 |
Superpelican | when I can reach it | 18:35 |
Superpelican | and click on the "note" button | 18:35 |
Superpelican | to post a tweet-like message | 18:36 |
Superpelican | it doesn't do anything | 18:36 |
Superpelican | and when that does actually work | 18:36 |
Superpelican | it often takes forever to send the note | 18:36 |
Superpelican | it's awful | 18:36 |
anidel | maybe they have issues with the new software and sorting it out.. | 18:36 |
Superpelican | but I don't like Twitter :( | 18:36 |
Superpelican | and Jolla is only on FB, Twitter and identi.ca | 18:36 |
Superpelican | I really hope they join a Status.net based server | 18:36 |
Superpelican | the old identi.ca was status.net based too | 18:37 |
Superpelican | it didn't look as nice | 18:37 |
Superpelican | and had a 140 char limit | 18:37 |
Superpelican | like twitter | 18:37 |
anidel | well "they" are here, ask :D | 18:37 |
Superpelican | but at least it worked | 18:37 |
Superpelican | but | 18:37 |
Superpelican | social media is managed by jukka eklund | 18:37 |
Superpelican | and he's often not on IRC | 18:37 |
Superpelican | :( | 18:38 |
Stskeeps | anyway, that's more of a #jollamobile topic.. | 18:38 |
Stskeeps | :P | 18:38 |
anidel | ah right :D sorry my mistake :P | 18:38 |
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Superpelican | Stskeeps:What's actually the difference between #jollamobile and #sailfishos ? | 18:38 |
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anidel | the latter is an OS that can potentially run on devices from different manufacturers/vendors | 18:39 |
Superpelican | that's true | 18:39 |
Superpelican | but still | 18:39 |
Stskeeps | Superpelican: unofficial community vs more or less official support channel for sailfishos (sdk) | 18:39 |
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anidel | the first is Jolla specific (comprising hw + software + services that Jolla provides) | 18:39 |
Superpelican | Stskeeps:Will #sailfishos also be for the actual OS when the Jolla is being shipped? | 18:40 |
Superpelican | or will it remain SDK only? | 18:40 |
Stskeeps | we'll see | 18:40 |
Superpelican | ok | 18:40 |
Superpelican | Stskeeps:Today I finally got my kernel-adaptation-pov_protab2_xxl to succeed in building on the OBS :) | 18:40 |
Superpelican | Mer/Nemo fun ahead :) | 18:40 |
Stskeeps | congrats | 18:41 |
Superpelican | http://paste.kde.org/p0a233dc3/ | 18:41 |
Superpelican | WIP | 18:41 |
Superpelican | oops | 18:41 |
Superpelican | wrong link | 18:41 |
Superpelican | http://superpelicanblog.wordpress.com/porting-mer-corenemo-mobile-to-the-cherry-m1007/ | 18:41 |
Superpelican | still work in progress | 18:41 |
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Superpelican | so will be updated | 18:41 |
Superpelican | and of course: https://build.merproject.org/package/files?package=kernel-adaptation-pov_protab2_xxl&project=home%3ASuperpelican%3Ahw-adaptation-pov_protab2_xxl | 18:42 |
* Stskeeps really hopes the alcatel one touch fire comes in large numbers, non-simlocked | 18:42 | |
Stskeeps | could be a really nice kit for oss phone development | 18:42 |
Superpelican | :) | 18:42 |
Superpelican | Stskeeps:I noticed that https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Image_Creation is still very Meego focused | 18:43 |
Stskeeps | kinda | 18:43 |
Superpelican | Does it stil apply to the modern Mer | 18:43 |
Stskeeps | there's another page isn't there | 18:43 |
Superpelican | As I will be building images soon | 18:43 |
Superpelican | (hopefully) | 18:43 |
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Superpelican | Stskeeps:What other pages | 18:44 |
Superpelican | s/pages/page? | 18:44 |
Superpelican | One that isn't published yet? | 18:44 |
Stskeeps | nah, on there | 18:44 |
Superpelican | you mean the for beginners edition? | 18:44 |
Stskeeps | somewhere, yes | 18:44 |
anidel | stskeeps; will you post how you ported Mer to the Alcatel | 18:44 |
Stskeeps | anidel: yes, a full guide in the weekend probably | 18:45 |
Stskeeps | just got a new desktop machine today so that takes priority | 18:45 |
Superpelican | Stskeeps:Which desktop? | 18:45 |
Superpelican | haswell? :D | 18:45 |
Stskeeps | 3.3-3.7ghz quad-core i7 3770, 8gb ram, 1tb disk | 18:46 |
Superpelican | not bad | 18:46 |
Superpelican | what was your previous one? | 18:46 |
Stskeeps | need one that can last another 3-4 years like my former work machine (laptop) did | 18:46 |
Superpelican | ah a laptop | 18:46 |
Stskeeps | 2gb ram, 2ghz dual core, i think | 18:46 |
Superpelican | which gen? | 18:46 |
Stskeeps | i forget, but intel something | 18:47 |
Stskeeps | :P | 18:47 |
anidel | Stskeeps: sweet, I'll see the steps and try to replicate and have mer on the Tizen device | 18:47 |
Superpelican | So you'll probably will still be using the old laptop for mobile work? | 18:47 |
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anidel | 2Gb of ram, you work text only? | 18:47 |
Stskeeps | a lot of ssh | 18:47 |
Stskeeps | :P | 18:47 |
Superpelican | lol | 18:47 |
Superpelican | well | 18:47 |
Superpelican | honestly | 18:48 |
Superpelican | I almost never use more than 2 GB of RAM | 18:48 |
Superpelican | And even if I do | 18:48 |
Superpelican | I could close some apps | 18:48 |
Superpelican | and start them again later | 18:48 |
Stskeeps | anidel: basically if you can put android on a device and build own kernel/boot.img and own matching libc,adbd,logcat,init,libcutils, you're golden.. | 18:48 |
Superpelican | and I'm not quite using the most lean DE either | 18:48 |
Superpelican | *cough*KDE*cough* | 18:49 |
anidel | Stskeeps: can't put android on this one I guess, I know you need s-boot for that not U-boot | 18:49 |
anidel | but the hw is of course fully supported by tizen itself | 18:49 |
Stskeeps | nod | 18:49 |
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anidel | so once one has a kernel from the Tizen source repo with changes that mer might need, and i can flash, i guess I'm all done (meaning the device is bricked and i'm done with it:P) | 18:50 |
Stskeeps | :nod: though unsure about x11, gles, etc | 18:51 |
anidel | yeah that can be an issue indeed...they do have X11 I suppose, but not wayland | 18:51 |
Stskeeps | nod | 18:51 |
anidel | and gles as well afaik | 18:52 |
Superpelican | Stskeeps:So if I would want to build an Mer image with libhybris/Wayland/Qt5 support his week, I'd use the Mer next release? | 18:52 |
Stskeeps | mer + mer:qt should be fine | 18:52 |
Superpelican | Stskeeps:Which release then? | 18:52 |
anidel | Nemo mobile uses X11? | 18:52 |
anidel | Google will answer, don't worry | 18:53 |
Stskeeps | right, though they're looking into qt5+wayland | 18:53 |
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Stskeeps | bbl | 18:55 |
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