Sunday, 2013-06-30

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CosmoHillnight night00:27
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BozzaAnyone awake?00:49
ericcc_hi  what is  uo00:56
ericcc_is up00:56
Bozzaericcc_: I want to build mer from source01:00
Bozzaericcc_: i have never used01:01
Bozzaericcc_: but would I use git clone. And after that make to compile an image?01:01
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BozzaOr is it a bit more complex?01:01
ericcc_well  you  can  study  from  https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK#Installation_.2F_setup01:06
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Bozzaericcc_: thanks for the link01:09
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ericcc_you  are  welcome01:14
Bozzaericcc_: btw I got a little confused with meego, mobilin , tizen and jolly01:17
BozzaWhat's the newest OS?01:17
BozzaAfai could follow.maemo turned into meego01:18
BozzaNokia killed of development so it branched of into tizen and jolla?01:18
ericcc_sorry i  don1t konw01:20
Bozzaericcc_: what is mer?01:20
BozzaA branch of meego?01:21
ericcc_it is   just  like  a  ui01:21
ericcc_jolla=mer+nemo01:21
BozzaAhh ok cool01:22
bef0rdmer is the core, there is no UI, just a subset of minimal packages required to boot01:22
Bozzabef0rd: awesome!01:22
bef0rdJolla uses Mer + sillica components for Sailfish OS01:22
bef0rdNemo is mer + what-used-to-be Meego handset UI01:23
BozzaSo does mer not even include x windows or qt?01:23
bef0rdBozza: its on the repos, you install it and configure it with whatever desktop environment w¡you want01:23
Bozzabef0rd: do I need to compile it? I would like to try running it on the raspberry pi01:24
bef0rdthe way I see Mer is something to allow you start your own mobile/minimal distribution, start with mer and add all of your bits01:25
bef0rdBozza: I think vgrade released some precompiled images for raspberry pi01:25
BozzaI think that's exactly what I have come here for. I want to use mer as a minimal OS for the pi01:26
Bozzabef0rd: if I compile from source. Would I simply do it with git and make?01:26
BozzaI am a complete noob to this01:26
bef0rdyou would need to cross compile since you are targetting a different platform01:26
bef0rdx86 - arm01:27
BozzaI am thinking about compiling directly on the pi itself in Debian01:27
bef0rdnot sure how its done at the moment, but you need to set some stuff on  your machine first01:27
bef0rdthat is going to take a lot of time01:27
BozzaI could compile it on my ipad? It also uses arm. Or is that the wrong arm type?01:28
bef0rdit's probably harder, but the thing is, you don't need to compile it to use it, there are preavailable images, install one of them and upgrade01:29
bef0rdor you could create your own image using a kickstart file01:29
BozzaBut where is the fun in that? Hehe01:29
bef0rdwhich doesn't compile it and you can select which packages to use01:29
Bozzakickstart file?01:29
BozzaAhh cool01:29
BozzaYes something like that will do01:29
bef0rdlet me see if I can find a .ks file for pi01:30
BozzaCool! Thank you01:30
bef0rdhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fouPJRLygNQ01:30
bef0rdthose are vgrade's videos01:30
bef0rdhttp://images.formeego.org/raspberry-pi/mer-core-armv6l-connectivity-xorg-basic-qmlviewer-raspPi.ks01:32
bef0rdkickstarter sample file01:32
bef0rdbut as I said, you need the platform sdk to be able to build the image01:32
BozzaAlright I will get it from the merproject01:33
BozzaThanks so much!01:33
BozzaWhat's the difference between compiling an image and using a kickstarter?01:33
BozzaIs the only difference that I can't change any if the source code?01:33
BozzaOr is there more to ti01:34
bef0rdprobably time, you just save it by using precompiled packages in the mer OBS01:34
bef0rdwell you could setup your own repo, and put your patched packages there01:34
bef0rdI think the kickstart file is always needed, even if you want to compile it by yourself (then create a repo and use it inside the ks file)01:35
BozzaA local repo will do right?01:35
bef0rdyes01:35
BozzaCool! Thanks for the info , I will get started in a second after I do some reading01:36
BozzaI have never compiled/patched together an OS01:37
BozzaHopefully I will have something running on my pi tonight01:37
BozzaVgrades build looks impressive01:39
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ericcc_why  not install   sailfish sdk03:07
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SuperpelicanStskeeps:Could you help me with the packaging of my kernel adaptation?08:07
Stskeepsno, i got a baby on friday and not really around08:07
Stskeepssorry08:07
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Superpelicanoh, congratulations then :)08:09
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DocScrutinizer05:-)08:13
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CosmoHillmorning08:47
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Superpelicanlbt:How would I let the Mer OBS/SDK an uImage?09:23
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Superpelicanlbt:Do I have to package u-boot-tools first then?09:24
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SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:How do I let the Mer OBS generate an uImage? Mer doesn't seem to have the u-boot-tools09:31
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ArtoxSuperpelican: I found that too09:31
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Artoxevery device adaptation has its own u-boot package09:31
SuperpelicanSo I'll need package that first?09:32
Sfiet_KonstantinSuperpelican: osc copypac from another adaptation09:32
Artoxyou can coopy one of them09:32
ArtoxIt would be nice to have the u-boot tools available globally09:32
SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:Could you help me with the packaging of my kernel-adaptation?09:33
SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:I've read the RPM max handbook09:33
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Artoxapparently not xD09:34
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SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:So I understand the basics09:34
SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:But I don't the understand all those package specific scripts09:35
SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:How do I know I need one?09:35
Sfiet_KonstantinSuperpelican: just osc copypac <sourcepac> <yourdir> the ubot thing09:35
Sfiet_Konstantindon't care about package09:35
SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:But the rest of the kernel-adaptation?09:36
Sfiet_Konstantinwhat is the rest ?09:36
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SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:The packaging of the kernel itself, the modules, the image etc.09:36
Sfiet_Konstantinah09:37
Sfiet_Konstantinhum09:37
SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:Every kernel-adaptation has lots of commands under %install09:37
Sfiet_Konstantinso it compiles and then errors right ?09:37
SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:Well I've booted the kernel already09:37
Sfiet_Konstantinyou should just put all the generated files (that are instaled in the buildroot) in these %install09:37
SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:with sun4i rootfs09:37
Sfiet_Konstantinbut compilation with obs09:38
Sfiet_Konstantinsec09:38
Sfiet_KonstantinSuperpelican: did you do an osc build ?09:40
Sfiet_Konstantinand how it ends ?09:40
SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:I'm currently still stuck with the same error09:40
Sfiet_Konstantincheck what's in /var/tmp/build-root/home/abuild/rpmbuild09:40
SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:It keeps complaining about a dir that doesn't exist09:40
Sfiet_Konstantinthere are BUILD where your sources files are untarred09:40
Sfiet_KonstantinBUILDROOT that is where the files are installed (fakeroot)09:41
Sfiet_Konstantinuse osc build09:41
Sfiet_Konstantinat first, don't bother with the %install right now09:41
Sfiet_Konstantinfirst try to make it compile09:41
SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:It does untar it with the name I wanted it to09:42
Sfiet_KonstantinSuperpelican: just check in the folder i told you09:43
Sfiet_Konstantinyou will see09:43
SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:I have09:43
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SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:I mean in the BUILD folder09:43
SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:it does untar with the right name09:43
Sfiet_Konstantinyes09:43
Sfiet_Konstantinosc build then09:43
Sfiet_Konstantinand check if there are errors09:43
SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:sec09:43
SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:http://pastebin.com/wgjFjqZL09:44
SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:Notice the "kernel-adaptation-pov_protab2_xxl-3.0.76-1.arm"09:44
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SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:It keeps adding the -1.arm09:44
SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:But I can't change it09:44
SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:It does it somewhere in a macro09:44
Sfiet_Konstantinpaste your spec09:45
SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:It's like a blackbox to me09:45
Sfiet_Konstantinnot that black09:45
Sfiet_Konstantinit is slightly painful09:45
Superpelicanhttp://pastebin.com/JAni1fPy09:45
Sfiet_Konstantinand I only know a very small subset09:45
Sfiet_Konstantinare you using spectacle (the .yaml file ?)09:45
Sfiet_KonstantinSuperpelican: do a "specify"09:46
Sfiet_Konstantinit should auto find what is the folder to tar09:46
Superpelicanthe .spec was generated by specify09:46
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Sfiet_Konstantinif your yaml file is well written09:46
Artoxso somebody say why %install deletes the buildroot09:46
Superpelicanbut I edited it afterwards09:46
SuperpelicanI don't know09:46
Sfiet_Konstantintry specify09:46
SuperpelicanI thought it was strange too09:47
Sfiet_Konstantintry specify right now09:47
Sfiet_Konstantinand rebuild09:47
Sfiet_Konstantinand see what happen09:47
Sfiet_KonstantinArtox: dunno :(09:47
Superpelicanhttp://pastebin.com/n4ckyQJa09:47
Sfiet_KonstantinSuperpelican: you should not edit the spec file much09:47
Sfiet_Konstantinexcept inside the <<< >>>09:47
Sfiet_Konstantinedit the yaml and specify09:47
SuperpelicanWell all the kernel-adaptations seem to have heavily modified .spec's09:48
Sfiet_Konstantinyeah09:48
Sfiet_Konstantinbut still09:48
Sfiet_Konstantinbut honestly, I did not really packaged kernels09:48
Sfiet_Konstantinand seems that it is a PITA09:48
Sfiet_Konstantinsec09:48
Sfiet_KonstantinI'm gonna get it in my side09:48
Superpelicanok09:49
Sfiet_Konstantinbut I will need to dl pacsk09:49
Sfiet_Konstantinso ...09:49
Sfiet_Konstantinwill be slow :(09:49
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SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:Is everything downloaded already? ;)10:11
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cxl000Superpelican the easiest way to get started with kernel packaging is to copy a already working one.12:06
cxl000add your kernel source and config file12:07
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SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:You have been able to download it?13:59
SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:I mean the pacs14:01
SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:I mean the *packs14:02
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Superpelicanlbt:How do I use this package (https://build.merproject.org/package/show?package=u-boot-sunxi&project=home%3Anotmart%3Abranches%3Ahome%3Amdfe%3Ahw%3Asunxi) to build my kernel-adaptation?15:06
Superpelicanlbt:I've added the repo to my Mer SDK15:08
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SuperpelicanStskeeps:How would I use a package from the OBS to provide a dependency for my kernel adaptation package?15:49
Superpelicanlink to package from OBS above15:49
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Bostikinclude the repository of your choice in your OBS project's meta16:21
Bostikand something to remember: package names for dependencies are checked from the repos *in the order the repositories are listed*16:22
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SuperpelicanBostik:Do you mean I should add it at the Repositories tab of the web UI?16:55
Bostikno, "project meta"16:59
Bostikadvanced config -> [something] -> meta17:00
Bostikand take a look at how it's done in some other complex build project, because editing that directly is quite error-prone17:00
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CosmoHillhi Bostik17:16
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iekkujust realized that even i'm finally again available i can't host mer bug triage18:15
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CosmoHillnight night21:37
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