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CosmoHill | night night | 00:27 |
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Bozza | Anyone awake? | 00:49 |
ericcc_ | hi what is uo | 00:56 |
ericcc_ | is up | 00:56 |
Bozza | ericcc_: I want to build mer from source | 01:00 |
Bozza | ericcc_: i have never used | 01:01 |
Bozza | ericcc_: but would I use git clone. And after that make to compile an image? | 01:01 |
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Bozza | Or is it a bit more complex? | 01:01 |
ericcc_ | well you can study from https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK#Installation_.2F_setup | 01:06 |
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Bozza | ericcc_: thanks for the link | 01:09 |
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ericcc_ | you are welcome | 01:14 |
Bozza | ericcc_: btw I got a little confused with meego, mobilin , tizen and jolly | 01:17 |
Bozza | What's the newest OS? | 01:17 |
Bozza | Afai could follow.maemo turned into meego | 01:18 |
Bozza | Nokia killed of development so it branched of into tizen and jolla? | 01:18 |
ericcc_ | sorry i don1t konw | 01:20 |
Bozza | ericcc_: what is mer? | 01:20 |
Bozza | A branch of meego? | 01:21 |
ericcc_ | it is just like a ui | 01:21 |
ericcc_ | jolla=mer+nemo | 01:21 |
Bozza | Ahh ok cool | 01:22 |
bef0rd | mer is the core, there is no UI, just a subset of minimal packages required to boot | 01:22 |
Bozza | bef0rd: awesome! | 01:22 |
bef0rd | Jolla uses Mer + sillica components for Sailfish OS | 01:22 |
bef0rd | Nemo is mer + what-used-to-be Meego handset UI | 01:23 |
Bozza | So does mer not even include x windows or qt? | 01:23 |
bef0rd | Bozza: its on the repos, you install it and configure it with whatever desktop environment w¡you want | 01:23 |
Bozza | bef0rd: do I need to compile it? I would like to try running it on the raspberry pi | 01:24 |
bef0rd | the way I see Mer is something to allow you start your own mobile/minimal distribution, start with mer and add all of your bits | 01:25 |
bef0rd | Bozza: I think vgrade released some precompiled images for raspberry pi | 01:25 |
Bozza | I think that's exactly what I have come here for. I want to use mer as a minimal OS for the pi | 01:26 |
Bozza | bef0rd: if I compile from source. Would I simply do it with git and make? | 01:26 |
Bozza | I am a complete noob to this | 01:26 |
bef0rd | you would need to cross compile since you are targetting a different platform | 01:26 |
bef0rd | x86 - arm | 01:27 |
Bozza | I am thinking about compiling directly on the pi itself in Debian | 01:27 |
bef0rd | not sure how its done at the moment, but you need to set some stuff on your machine first | 01:27 |
bef0rd | that is going to take a lot of time | 01:27 |
Bozza | I could compile it on my ipad? It also uses arm. Or is that the wrong arm type? | 01:28 |
bef0rd | it's probably harder, but the thing is, you don't need to compile it to use it, there are preavailable images, install one of them and upgrade | 01:29 |
bef0rd | or you could create your own image using a kickstart file | 01:29 |
Bozza | But where is the fun in that? Hehe | 01:29 |
bef0rd | which doesn't compile it and you can select which packages to use | 01:29 |
Bozza | kickstart file? | 01:29 |
Bozza | Ahh cool | 01:29 |
Bozza | Yes something like that will do | 01:29 |
bef0rd | let me see if I can find a .ks file for pi | 01:30 |
Bozza | Cool! Thank you | 01:30 |
bef0rd | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fouPJRLygNQ | 01:30 |
bef0rd | those are vgrade's videos | 01:30 |
bef0rd | http://images.formeego.org/raspberry-pi/mer-core-armv6l-connectivity-xorg-basic-qmlviewer-raspPi.ks | 01:32 |
bef0rd | kickstarter sample file | 01:32 |
bef0rd | but as I said, you need the platform sdk to be able to build the image | 01:32 |
Bozza | Alright I will get it from the merproject | 01:33 |
Bozza | Thanks so much! | 01:33 |
Bozza | What's the difference between compiling an image and using a kickstarter? | 01:33 |
Bozza | Is the only difference that I can't change any if the source code? | 01:33 |
Bozza | Or is there more to ti | 01:34 |
bef0rd | probably time, you just save it by using precompiled packages in the mer OBS | 01:34 |
bef0rd | well you could setup your own repo, and put your patched packages there | 01:34 |
bef0rd | I think the kickstart file is always needed, even if you want to compile it by yourself (then create a repo and use it inside the ks file) | 01:35 |
Bozza | A local repo will do right? | 01:35 |
bef0rd | yes | 01:35 |
Bozza | Cool! Thanks for the info , I will get started in a second after I do some reading | 01:36 |
Bozza | I have never compiled/patched together an OS | 01:37 |
Bozza | Hopefully I will have something running on my pi tonight | 01:37 |
Bozza | Vgrades build looks impressive | 01:39 |
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ericcc_ | why not install sailfish sdk | 03:07 |
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Superpelican | Stskeeps:Could you help me with the packaging of my kernel adaptation? | 08:07 |
Stskeeps | no, i got a baby on friday and not really around | 08:07 |
Stskeeps | sorry | 08:07 |
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Superpelican | oh, congratulations then :) | 08:09 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | :-) | 08:13 |
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CosmoHill | morning | 08:47 |
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Superpelican | lbt:How would I let the Mer OBS/SDK an uImage? | 09:23 |
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Superpelican | lbt:Do I have to package u-boot-tools first then? | 09:24 |
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Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:How do I let the Mer OBS generate an uImage? Mer doesn't seem to have the u-boot-tools | 09:31 |
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Artox | Superpelican: I found that too | 09:31 |
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Artox | every device adaptation has its own u-boot package | 09:31 |
Superpelican | So I'll need package that first? | 09:32 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: osc copypac from another adaptation | 09:32 |
Artox | you can coopy one of them | 09:32 |
Artox | It would be nice to have the u-boot tools available globally | 09:32 |
Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:Could you help me with the packaging of my kernel-adaptation? | 09:33 |
Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:I've read the RPM max handbook | 09:33 |
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Artox | apparently not xD | 09:34 |
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Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:So I understand the basics | 09:34 |
Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:But I don't the understand all those package specific scripts | 09:35 |
Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:How do I know I need one? | 09:35 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: just osc copypac <sourcepac> <yourdir> the ubot thing | 09:35 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | don't care about package | 09:35 |
Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:But the rest of the kernel-adaptation? | 09:36 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | what is the rest ? | 09:36 |
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Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:The packaging of the kernel itself, the modules, the image etc. | 09:36 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | ah | 09:37 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | hum | 09:37 |
Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:Every kernel-adaptation has lots of commands under %install | 09:37 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | so it compiles and then errors right ? | 09:37 |
Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:Well I've booted the kernel already | 09:37 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | you should just put all the generated files (that are instaled in the buildroot) in these %install | 09:37 |
Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:with sun4i rootfs | 09:37 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | but compilation with obs | 09:38 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | sec | 09:38 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: did you do an osc build ? | 09:40 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | and how it ends ? | 09:40 |
Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:I'm currently still stuck with the same error | 09:40 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | check what's in /var/tmp/build-root/home/abuild/rpmbuild | 09:40 |
Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:It keeps complaining about a dir that doesn't exist | 09:40 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | there are BUILD where your sources files are untarred | 09:40 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | BUILDROOT that is where the files are installed (fakeroot) | 09:41 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | use osc build | 09:41 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | at first, don't bother with the %install right now | 09:41 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | first try to make it compile | 09:41 |
Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:It does untar it with the name I wanted it to | 09:42 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: just check in the folder i told you | 09:43 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | you will see | 09:43 |
Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:I have | 09:43 |
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Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:I mean in the BUILD folder | 09:43 |
Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:it does untar with the right name | 09:43 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | yes | 09:43 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | osc build then | 09:43 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | and check if there are errors | 09:43 |
Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:sec | 09:43 |
Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:http://pastebin.com/wgjFjqZL | 09:44 |
Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:Notice the "kernel-adaptation-pov_protab2_xxl-3.0.76-1.arm" | 09:44 |
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Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:It keeps adding the -1.arm | 09:44 |
Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:But I can't change it | 09:44 |
Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:It does it somewhere in a macro | 09:44 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | paste your spec | 09:45 |
Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:It's like a blackbox to me | 09:45 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | not that black | 09:45 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | it is slightly painful | 09:45 |
Superpelican | http://pastebin.com/JAni1fPy | 09:45 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | and I only know a very small subset | 09:45 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | are you using spectacle (the .yaml file ?) | 09:45 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: do a "specify" | 09:46 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | it should auto find what is the folder to tar | 09:46 |
Superpelican | the .spec was generated by specify | 09:46 |
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Sfiet_Konstantin | if your yaml file is well written | 09:46 |
Artox | so somebody say why %install deletes the buildroot | 09:46 |
Superpelican | but I edited it afterwards | 09:46 |
Superpelican | I don't know | 09:46 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | try specify | 09:46 |
Superpelican | I thought it was strange too | 09:47 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | try specify right now | 09:47 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | and rebuild | 09:47 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | and see what happen | 09:47 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | Artox: dunno :( | 09:47 |
Superpelican | http://pastebin.com/n4ckyQJa | 09:47 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: you should not edit the spec file much | 09:47 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | except inside the <<< >>> | 09:47 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | edit the yaml and specify | 09:47 |
Superpelican | Well all the kernel-adaptations seem to have heavily modified .spec's | 09:48 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | yeah | 09:48 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | but still | 09:48 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | but honestly, I did not really packaged kernels | 09:48 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | and seems that it is a PITA | 09:48 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | sec | 09:48 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | I'm gonna get it in my side | 09:48 |
Superpelican | ok | 09:49 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | but I will need to dl pacsk | 09:49 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | so ... | 09:49 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | will be slow :( | 09:49 |
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Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:Is everything downloaded already? ;) | 10:11 |
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cxl000 | Superpelican the easiest way to get started with kernel packaging is to copy a already working one. | 12:06 |
cxl000 | add your kernel source and config file | 12:07 |
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Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:You have been able to download it? | 13:59 |
Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:I mean the pacs | 14:01 |
Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:I mean the *packs | 14:02 |
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Superpelican | lbt:How do I use this package (https://build.merproject.org/package/show?package=u-boot-sunxi&project=home%3Anotmart%3Abranches%3Ahome%3Amdfe%3Ahw%3Asunxi) to build my kernel-adaptation? | 15:06 |
Superpelican | lbt:I've added the repo to my Mer SDK | 15:08 |
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Superpelican | Stskeeps:How would I use a package from the OBS to provide a dependency for my kernel adaptation package? | 15:49 |
Superpelican | link to package from OBS above | 15:49 |
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Bostik | include the repository of your choice in your OBS project's meta | 16:21 |
Bostik | and something to remember: package names for dependencies are checked from the repos *in the order the repositories are listed* | 16:22 |
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Superpelican | Bostik:Do you mean I should add it at the Repositories tab of the web UI? | 16:55 |
Bostik | no, "project meta" | 16:59 |
Bostik | advanced config -> [something] -> meta | 17:00 |
Bostik | and take a look at how it's done in some other complex build project, because editing that directly is quite error-prone | 17:00 |
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CosmoHill | hi Bostik | 17:16 |
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iekku | just realized that even i'm finally again available i can't host mer bug triage | 18:15 |
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CosmoHill | night night | 21:37 |
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