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| Artox | \o | 05:48 |
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| iekku | o/ | 05:49 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: please do a prerelease :) | 06:35 |
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| Stskeeps | morn lbt | 08:30 |
| lbt | hey | 08:30 |
| lbt | all done? | 08:30 |
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| Stskeeps | yeah, ready to ship as a prerelease | 08:31 |
| Stskeeps | and then hopefully a quick release after a bit of qa | 08:31 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:31 |
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| Sage | hmmp... somethin wrong with api.merproject.org? | 08:31 |
| Sage | I'm not able to download files through it atm. | 08:32 |
| Sage | lbt: ^ | 08:32 |
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| Sage | osc co just stalls | 08:32 |
| * lbt looks | 08:32 | |
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| lbt | seems fine to me for osc ls, and using webui to grab logs | 08:34 |
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| lbt | what fails? | 08:34 |
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| Sage | osc co doesn't return anything for me | 08:34 |
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| Sage | https://build.merproject.org/package/show?package=systemd&project=home%3Asage%3Abranches%3Amer%3Amds2%3ACore%3Aarmv7hl%3Amaster <- doest this load for you? | 08:35 |
| Sage | does* | 08:35 |
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| Sage | mds2 blew up? | 08:35 |
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| Stskeeps | Artox: fix your client | 08:36 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: not for me | 08:36 |
| Artox | sorry Stskeeps | 08:36 |
| Artox | its not my client | 08:36 |
| Artox | its my connection | 08:36 |
| Artox | and this semester its worse than ever before | 08:36 |
| Artox | idk why | 08:36 |
| Stskeeps | ah, rampage at your local IT apartment then ;) | 08:36 |
| Stskeeps | er, department | 08:36 |
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| Artox | [10:36] <Artox> and this semester its worse than ever before | 08:37 |
| Artox | [10:36] <Artox> idk why | 08:37 |
| Artox | [10:37] <Artox> earleir today it fixed itself after an hour or so | 08:37 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 08:37 |
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| Artox | SRSLY | 08:37 |
| lbt | Sage: no, that doesn't - but plenty of stuff does | 08:38 |
| Artox | if it happesn 1 more time I'll shutdown irc | 08:38 |
| Sage | lbt: so what is wrong with that link? :D | 08:38 |
| * lbt checks the font | 08:38 | |
| lbt | nope, not that | 08:38 |
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| Sage | https://build.merproject.org/project/show?project=home%3Asage%3Abranches%3Amer%3Amds2%3ACore%3Aarmv7hl%3Amaster this works | 08:39 |
| Sage | but none of the package pages at https://build.merproject.org/project/packages?project=home%3Asage%3Abranches%3Amer%3Amds2%3ACore%3Aarmv7hl%3Amaster do not | 08:40 |
| * lbt suggests deleting home:sage ? | 08:42 | |
| Sage | well other projects in my home work :) | 08:43 |
| lbt | *sigh* so much for that idea | 08:44 |
| Sage | so what did I blow up now? :D | 08:44 |
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| Sage | ok, it seems that other projects that point to mds2 are failing as well | 08:45 |
| Sage | lbt: https://build.merproject.org/project/show?project=home%3Albt%3Abranches%3Amer%3Amds2%3ACore%3Ai586%3Anext | 08:45 |
| Sage | lbt: and that is your project ;) | 08:46 |
| * lbt deletes | 08:46 | |
| lbt | mds2 is dead | 08:46 |
| Stskeeps | how did it die? | 08:47 |
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| Sage | well that would explain my problems with the projects pointing to it :) | 08:47 |
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| ka6sox-away | dead? | 08:48 |
| Stskeeps | as in, process dead ;) | 08:48 |
| lbt | swapping | 08:48 |
| Stskeeps | interesting | 08:48 |
| lbt | snakes on a VM | 08:48 |
| ka6sox-away | :) | 08:49 |
| * lbt suggests some child process limiter on mds2 | 08:49 | |
| * lbt suggests some child process limiter on mds2 .... other than kernel OOM manager | 08:49 | |
| ka6sox-away | beat me to it. | 08:50 |
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| lbt | I saw you and just knew | 08:50 |
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| lbt | ooh, mds daemon *has* improved ... the logs are no longer in nohup.out :D | 08:56 |
| ka6sox-away | :) | 08:59 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: phaeron ... a little help please. it's really hard diagnosing on a machine that is swapping heavily | 08:59 |
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| lbt | and I can't find the logs, config file, daemon control.... | 08:59 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: sure, let me look | 08:59 |
| lbt | I can just killall - but ideally we'd see what's up first | 09:00 |
| Stskeeps | it'll take ~10 min before i can fully log in, i think | 09:00 |
| Stskeeps | due to the swapping | 09:00 |
| Stskeeps | (just so you dont think i'm not looking) | 09:00 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 09:00 |
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| lbt | it was running puppet scheduled check - so it's better now | 09:01 |
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| Stskeeps | no strace or gdb installed, hmm.. | 09:02 |
| lbt | no, it's production | 09:02 |
| Stskeeps | even production will need ability to debug once in a while :) | 09:02 |
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| lbt | well, yes, but ideally we keep it clean | 09:02 |
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| lbt | so by default, nothing | 09:02 |
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| Stskeeps | i'm not really expecting to get much out of this but i wouldn't be surprised if it hit a OOM error and lost track of children or something like that | 09:03 |
| Artox | http://pastebin.com/MZ08fwbg | 09:03 |
| lbt | note there are some processes from various dates | 09:03 |
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| Stskeeps | true | 09:03 |
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| Artox | if anyone has a hint that'd be appreciated but ofc the disconnecting makes every realtime communication impossible | 09:03 |
| Stskeeps | Artox: i can recommend a hetzner vm for irssi | 09:04 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 09:04 |
| Artox | I dont think ssh connections will last | 09:04 |
| Artox | but I'll try | 09:04 |
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| lbt | happy to kill it but have no idea how to restart it | 09:04 |
| * lbt is doing taxi duty in 10mins | 09:06 | |
| Stskeeps | lbt: yeah, i'll kill and restart | 09:06 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: see you later | 09:08 |
| lbt | not quite gone yet | 09:09 |
| Stskeeps | ok, if you could kick off the prerelease, i'll take a look at mds2 and do a running commentary | 09:10 |
| GentSir | You guys get busy early | 09:11 |
| Stskeeps | waiting for strace/gdb to install right now | 09:11 |
| Stskeeps | GentSir: it's our work | 09:11 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 09:11 |
| lbt | tagged and running | 09:12 |
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| Stskeeps | thank you | 09:12 |
| GentSir | I'm jealous, I've spent the last week on Code Academy. Sounds awful, but it'll keep me busy for a month or two. | 09:12 |
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| GentSir | The Sailfish app I was working on took the back burner | 09:12 |
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| GentSir | Artox, are you having issues with ssh timing out? | 09:16 |
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| Artox | so | 09:16 |
| Artox | \o | 09:16 |
| Artox | Sage: ssh is nice | 09:17 |
| Artox | it waits and continues connection | 09:17 |
| GentSir | Artox, try out mosh if latency is the issue | 09:17 |
| Artox | no it was you Stskeeps | 09:17 |
| Artox | GentSir: I pastebinned sth | 09:17 |
| Artox | in the middle of that | 09:17 |
| GentSir | I'm on a high latency connection, and the predictive local echo is a lifesaver | 09:17 |
| Artox | NM reconnects | 09:17 |
| Artox | my latency is very low | 09:18 |
| Artox | at home I never have suchn messages in the dmesg | 09:18 |
| GentSir | I see. Just wanted to offer you a tip if you had that issue, I use it for the auto resume. | 09:19 |
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| Stskeeps | phaeron: seems like MDS2 children is select()'ing on fd 0, from /dev/null | 09:24 |
| Stskeeps | very mysterious | 09:24 |
| phaeron | good morning | 09:26 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: what does that mean .. | 09:26 |
| Stskeeps | i'm not entirely sure to be honest | 09:26 |
| Stskeeps | maybe we need SIGPIPE handling? | 09:27 |
| Stskeeps | or SIGCHLD or the likes | 09:27 |
| Stskeeps | my aim is to restart mds2 at this point | 09:27 |
| phaeron | is the machine still swapping I want to see if I've seen that issue before | 09:27 |
| phaeron | lbt: logs are in the usual places systemd journal or /var/log/syslog | 09:28 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: it's swapping quite madly, at least, feel free to look | 09:28 |
| phaeron | or /var/log/messages etc .. | 09:28 |
| phaeron | trying to log in | 09:28 |
| alterego | Is there something wrong with the mer obs? | 09:35 |
| Stskeeps | yes, guess what we're talking about | 09:35 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 09:35 |
| alterego | m'kay :) | 09:35 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: restarting. , I might have an idea why this happens | 09:37 |
| Stskeeps | oka | 09:37 |
| Stskeeps | y | 09:37 |
| lbt | did you see the old processes | 09:37 |
| phaeron | lbt: yes | 09:37 |
| phaeron | I think they are the obs watcher requests | 09:38 |
| phaeron | sometimes obs just starts new watchers without closing the old connection | 09:38 |
| phaeron | and I tried hard to find a way to detect that the watcher is no longer .. watching .. but haven't found one yet. | 09:38 |
| phaeron | there's a FIXME in the code | 09:39 |
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| Stskeeps | makes sense | 09:48 |
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| Sage | did I kill mds2 again? :D | 10:06 |
| Stskeeps | no, i think it was building up over time | 10:06 |
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| Sage | hmmp | 10:07 |
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| Sage | something blew up again I thkn | 10:08 |
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| lbt | just looking | 10:08 |
| lbt | is freenode flakey ? | 10:08 |
| Sage | well for me that works fine :) | 10:09 |
| lbt | Sage: your branch is responding - but a bit slow | 10:10 |
| Sage | ah, now it started to respond | 10:10 |
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| w00t | is it just me, or is the mobs web UI a little slow? | 10:19 |
| Stskeeps | just aftereffect of the mds2 stuff i think, don't worry too much about it | 10:20 |
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| Sage | oh, come on. now the mer obs doesn't respond again | 10:38 |
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| Sage | w00t: it is not just you :) | 10:38 |
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| phaeron | worksforme | 10:39 |
| phaeron | lbt: it does have 11 workers only | 10:39 |
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| lbt | back ... mer project accounts phone call :) | 10:44 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: http://pastie.org/7574424 ever seen this thing before? | 10:45 |
| Sage | I/O error : Attempt to load network entity http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/manpages/docbook.xsl | 10:45 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: yes, something is trying to access network during build | 10:45 |
| Stskeeps | it's not there | 10:45 |
| lbt | phaeron: I see 12 workers now | 10:45 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: ok, | 10:46 |
| lbt | phaeron: the tables occasionally lose info but I've not seen a single crash since I fixed the tmpfs umount issue | 10:46 |
| phaeron | hmm ok | 10:46 |
| lbt | graphs have gone again though :D | 10:47 |
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| lbt | need to switch arches to get 'em back | 10:47 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: did you trigger an mds2 load? | 10:47 |
| lbt | I don't expect so | 10:48 |
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| lbt | pre-release just finished too | 10:48 |
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| phaeron | lbt: I use https://build.merproject.org/monitor/old , more reliable | 10:52 |
| lbt | true | 10:53 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: and thanks for prerelease | 11:00 |
| iekku | mer bug triage? | 11:00 |
| lbt | oop, yes | 11:05 |
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| Sage | was getbinaries: missing packages: perl-HTML-Tagset something that says do rebuild? | 11:50 |
| Sage | or that mds2 has something? | 11:53 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 11:53 |
| Sage | which one? :) | 11:53 |
| Sage | rebuild apparently | 11:56 |
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| kulve | there should be graphs about bug states; how long the bug is in NEW state, how long does it take to get it fixed (from reporting) and how long does it take from fixed -> close. Those could be averages of bugs close during the last X months or so (where X could be 1). | 12:36 |
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| Stskeeps | morn crevetor o/ | 12:54 |
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| soldoKyn | Hi to all! I'm pretty new to mer and I'm trying to build a root filesystem for an arm device (i.mx6)...where can I find a kickstarter configuration file for that type of board? thanks! | 13:24 |
| Stskeeps | http://releases.merproject.org/releases/0.20121224.1/kickstarts/mer-core-armv7hl-connectivity-xorg-basic-qmlviewer.ks | 13:26 |
| Stskeeps | may be useful | 13:26 |
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| soldoKyn | Stskeeps: thank you! I'll try that! | 13:55 |
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| CosmoHill | hi | 14:22 |
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| Sage | mer cobs acting very slow again | 14:56 |
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| lbt | seems very quick here... | 14:57 |
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| MrBlueSky125 | hi, is there any information about the release date of the first sailfish phone? | 15:16 |
| MrBlueSky125 | just wondering if it is worth waiting for it or getting the new BB Z10 now | 15:17 |
| kulve | no news | 15:22 |
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| MrBlueSky125 | what a shame | 15:38 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | MrBlueSky125: consider talking about Jolla products in either #sailfishos or #jollamobile | 15:47 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :) | 15:47 |
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| kulve | well, asking questions like that doesn't get ever any real answers anywhere :) | 15:50 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | kulve: yeah, but it at least keeps logs in order | 15:50 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | even if we talk about a lot of stuff in #mer ... | 15:50 |
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| w00t | lbt: https://build.merproject.org/monitor/old <- 2 hour bluedevil build looks a bit suspicious, stuck job? | 16:12 |
| Sage | lbt: Stskeeps: phaeron: the mer obs is really acting slow. I wonder why? At times it takes like 5mins to get it respond and at times it responds instantly | 16:16 |
| lbt | w00t: it does look stuck, yes | 16:17 |
| lbt | kicked it | 16:18 |
| lbt | Sage: it's really hard to tell | 16:19 |
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| lbt | now it feels quick | 16:19 |
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| * lbt looks at w00t and phaeron .... calling the packaging directory "rpm" is cool ... unless you're building rpm .... | 17:11 | |
| phaeron | why does it matter :) | 17:13 |
| lbt | would you believe it creates a file called .... rpm | 17:16 |
| lbt | w00t: hey ... good news ... http://collaborationsummit2013.sched.org/overview/type/keynote#.UWw1wy39gsI Jim's giving a keynote and we've not missed it !!! | 17:16 |
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| phaeron | lbt: that probably means I forgot to exclude rpm/ and debian/ from tarballs | 17:20 |
| lbt | nah, it's mb | 17:20 |
| phaeron | hmm :) | 17:22 |
| lbt | building rpm with mb results in | 17:22 |
| lbt | make[2]: Entering directory `/everything/home/david/rpmbuild/BUILD/rpm' | 17:22 |
| lbt | rm: cannot remove `rpm': Is a directory | 17:22 |
| lbt | rpm's Makefile tries to rm rpm which it probably thinks it built... but rpm is the packaging dir so make failes | 17:23 |
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| phaeron | hmm why is rpm packaged with rpm subdir ? | 17:29 |
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| w00t | phaeron: lbt: err.. https://build.merproject.org/project/monitor?project=nemo%3Adevel%3Amw is saying http 401 (unauthorized access) inside obs web ui, but i am logged in | 17:59 |
| w00t | actually, everything seems to be doing that | 17:59 |
| lbt | ty looking | 17:59 |
| * Stskeeps declares this is a monday | 18:00 | |
| lbt | one of these days I'll replicate ldap | 18:05 |
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| w00t | lbt: so ldap fell over? | 18:37 |
| kontio | I also encounter login errors... guess can stop to try to login... not my ability to enter a password right is the problem :-) | 18:39 |
| Sage | just about to come to complain about login errors :D | 18:40 |
| w00t | :D | 18:40 |
| vgrade | +1 | 18:40 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: I really think that we should exchange sunday and monday :P | 18:40 |
| lbt | yeah | 18:40 |
| w00t | i noticed login errors before it was cool | 18:40 |
| w00t | </hipster hacker> | 18:40 |
| Sage | w00t: ;) | 18:41 |
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| vgrade | vakkov: \o | 18:41 |
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| lbt | so it looks like the entire LDAP db was deleted apart from 1 account | 18:51 |
| lbt | and the backup is empty | 18:52 |
| dm8tbr | o.O | 18:52 |
| * lbt is not kidding | 18:52 | |
| Sage | http://isitmondaynow.com/ | 18:53 |
| * lbt goes for a beer | 18:54 | |
| w00t | um. | 18:58 |
| * lbt really isn't kidding | 18:59 | |
| * dm8tbr realizes the implications | 19:00 | |
| dm8tbr | not fun at all | 19:00 |
| w00t | any clue on what happened? | 19:00 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: doesn't bugzilla keep a seperate db? | 19:00 |
| lbt | no - it looks like something deleted all the user accounts | 19:00 |
| lbt | anyhow ... phaeron and I managed to replay the db logs to 9am this morning and we're all back | 19:01 |
| * lbt and phaeron want more beer/pizza at our next Mer event !!! :D | 19:02 | |
| phaeron | yeah well , unknown soldiers :) | 19:03 |
| dm8tbr | yay for phaeron | 19:03 |
| w00t | <3, although i'm a little worried as to what would have done that | 19:04 |
| phaeron | dm8tbr: lbt did all the work. I was cheering along :) | 19:05 |
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| Stskeeps | not to distract from the bugzilla issue, but two explosions at boston marathon: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22160691 | 19:17 |
| phaeron | bugzilla issue ? | 19:21 |
| Stskeeps | er, ldap issue | 19:22 |
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| lbt | OK, all analysed and nothing bad happened - db->ldap sync broke and erased the ldap | 19:35 |
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| Stskeeps | :/ @ news | 19:52 |
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| Kelteseth | I see it 0.o | 20:10 |
| Kelteseth | 23 injuries and 2 dead | 20:10 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, a tragedy | 20:10 |
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| GentSir | With an area that densely crowded, it's a miracle that only two people died. | 20:12 |
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| CosmoHill | cyas | 21:44 |
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| lbt | mobs and cobs are rebuilding latest pre-release | 23:17 |
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| * w00t notes mobs go mad | 23:34 | |
| w00t | ;) | 23:34 |
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| * lpotter notes mobs was already mad | 23:41 | |
| * lpotter notes mobs has been mad since birth | 23:41 | |
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