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| Stskeeps | morn all | 07:32 |
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| kulve | Stskeeps: does vt1 and tty1 relate to each other in some way? | 07:58 |
| kulve | I have console=tty1 on the kernel bootargs and the xorg-launch-helper configures X to use vt1 | 07:58 |
| Stskeeps | think so, though i'm unsure if vt1 = tty0 or tty1 :) | 07:58 |
| Stskeeps | anything changes if it gets forced to go on vt1 or vt8? | 08:02 |
| Stskeeps | er, vt2 | 08:02 |
| Stskeeps | like some distros do | 08:02 |
| kulve | you mean I would modify the launch helper to use vt2 instead? | 08:03 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 08:03 |
| Stskeeps | it might be something about consoles disappearing at suspend, too | 08:04 |
| kulve | is there something I could test related to that? | 08:05 |
| Stskeeps | well, you could leave out xorg-launch-helper totally and manually start X as a user with right parameters | 08:05 |
| Stskeeps | systemctl stop user-session@1000.service | 08:05 |
| Stskeeps | first, naturally | 08:05 |
| Stskeeps | and then test the suspend case | 08:06 |
| kulve | is there an easy way to start the whole nemo stuff? | 08:06 |
| kulve | manually | 08:06 |
| Stskeeps | yes, start|stop user-session@1000.service | 08:06 |
| kulve | although I guess having just the X.Org running would be enough | 08:06 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, hence me suggesting manually starting it | 08:08 |
| Stskeeps | perhaps with a xterm as client | 08:08 |
| kulve | is "strings" provided in some package? | 08:09 |
| Stskeeps | binutils | 08:10 |
| kulve | thx | 08:11 |
| kulve | "Accessibility DBus not found" <-- what's that? | 08:12 |
| Stskeeps | perhaps that there's no accessibility daemon running, i forget the name | 08:15 |
| Stskeeps | we don't have good accessibility support in nemo right now | 08:16 |
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| kulve | I guess that's not mandatory for this demo, it falls back to session bus | 08:18 |
| kulve | I installed a bunch of qt components and now it doesn't complain about those anymore but: | 08:19 |
| kulve | ASSERT: "i >= 0 && i < elementCount()" in file painting/qpainterpath.cpp, line 499 | 08:19 |
| Stskeeps | that's the cinematic one? | 08:19 |
| kulve | yeah | 08:19 |
| Stskeeps | that's a known issue i think.. i had the same | 08:19 |
| Stskeeps | there's a pathanimation in the qml somewhere (PathAnimation) | 08:20 |
| Stskeeps | try to kill that | 08:20 |
| kulve | what do you mean by killing that..? | 08:21 |
| Stskeeps | just remove PathAnimation { and contents within it, i think | 08:21 |
| Stskeeps | think that's what i did | 08:21 |
| kulve | yay | 08:21 |
| kulve | is there a way to rotate that..? | 08:22 |
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| kulve | --fullscreen does the trick | 08:23 |
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| kulve | [ 1744.560703] INFO: rcu_preempt_state detected stalls on CPUs/tasks: { 2} (detected by 0, t=6003 jiffies) | 08:29 |
| Stskeeps | heh, woops? | 08:29 |
| kulve | any idea what that is about? | 08:29 |
| kulve | yes | 08:29 |
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| Stskeeps | no, but it doesn't sound too good | 08:29 |
| kulve | rcg has mentioned his device crashing every now and then with PA and this might be the same reason | 08:30 |
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| kulve | the device rebooted after couple of minutes | 08:31 |
| kulve | [ 1744.607849] PC is at tegra_idle_enter_lp2+0xb0/0xf4 | 08:31 |
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| kulve | is there a way to see FPS while in that demo? | 08:36 |
| Stskeeps | i thought there's a fps setting int hee | 08:36 |
| Stskeeps | there | 08:36 |
| Stskeeps | else grab swaplogge | 08:36 |
| Stskeeps | r | 08:36 |
| kulve | I tried grepping for fps and didn't see anything | 08:38 |
| Stskeeps | "pixels means more work for CPU&GPU so.. | 08:38 |
| Stskeeps | Added FPS item in the top-left corner which shows how frequently QML animation loop gets called. Seeing this all the time while developing gives good feedback on how different changes affect the performance and also adds some demonstration sugar." | 08:38 |
| Stskeeps | so maybe fonts aren't there? i usually install liberation-fonts-something | 08:39 |
| kulve | the font's are a bit bad at least.. (the ones I see) | 08:39 |
| kulve | where did you cut'n'paste that text..? | 08:40 |
| Stskeeps | http://kgronholm.blogspot.com/2012/09/qt5-raspberry-pi.html | 08:40 |
| kulve | ok, I'm running some "1.0" version | 08:41 |
| kulve | trying the rpi one | 08:41 |
| kulve | ~40 fps in fullscreen with compositing wm | 08:44 |
| Stskeeps | at a quite high resolution, too? | 08:44 |
| Stskeeps | there's some kind of weird issue with double buffering there, i think | 08:44 |
| Stskeeps | i only got 30fps on it on quite good qualcomm hw | 08:44 |
| kulve | 1280x800 I think is the resolution of nexus 7 | 08:44 |
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| kulve | ~48 fps if I run it with metacity (started remotely) without any other nemo stuff | 08:47 |
| kulve | drops to ~38 when opening the info flag thing | 08:48 |
| kulve | and RPi hits 60 fps. That's quit good.. | 08:50 |
| kulve | Stskeeps: I'm now running XOrg in vt2 but it has the same issue with power button. But I guess that's not related to suspending, because I don't anything in dmesg (expect "gpio_keys: Pressed KEY_POWER") | 08:53 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 08:54 |
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| kulve | chvt 1-6 shows console login on the display, 7 onwards do not | 09:01 |
| Stskeeps | try vt7 then? | 09:03 |
| Stskeeps | for xorg | 09:03 |
| kulve | just testing but still the same thing.. When I have the Xorg running in vt7 with Qt5CE demo running and press the power button, the screen blinks couple(?) of times and then I see the text console with services started up during the boot. If I press the button again, I see a blink and still the same text console | 09:05 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 09:05 |
| kulve | "chvt 1" shows then a black screen and after that "chvt 7" shows the demo | 09:06 |
| Stskeeps | have you considered seeing what happens if you ditch fbcon from kernel config? | 09:06 |
| kulve | after pressing the power button for the first time, when I see the text console, I still see the XOrg cursor that reacts to touch | 09:06 |
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| rcg | kulve, is that on nexus7? | 09:09 |
| kulve | yes | 09:09 |
| rcg | alright | 09:09 |
| kulve | where else? :) | 09:09 |
| rcg | hehe ;) | 09:09 |
| rcg | i also find that "power button to kernel console" "feature" kinda annoying | 09:09 |
| kulve | does it work similarly with PA? | 09:10 |
| rcg | however, i couldn't find the reason why it does this yet | 09:10 |
| rcg | yep | 09:10 |
| rcg | pressing the power button drops you from X to console | 09:10 |
| rcg | the funny thing is that the ui still runs as the suspend setting still works (it kicks in after about 4-5 seconds) as usual | 09:11 |
| rcg | after resume X has focus again | 09:11 |
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| rcg | so, the expected behavior in pa would be that the power key triggers the lock screen which, when no activity takes place, suspends the device after 4-5 seconds | 09:12 |
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| kulve | If I run XOrg manually, why anything happens when I press the power button? Who reacts to that? | 09:16 |
| Stskeeps | perhaps mce? | 09:18 |
| Stskeeps | is it running? | 09:18 |
| kulve | yes | 09:18 |
| Stskeeps | ok, then its' that | 09:18 |
| kulve | how do I stop it? | 09:19 |
| kulve | (I'm not familiar with systemd) | 09:19 |
| kulve | PowerKeyShortAction=tklock-lock | 09:20 |
| kulve | # tklock-lock - lock touchscreen/keypad lock if not locked | 09:20 |
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| Stskeeps | systemctl stop mce.service? | 09:20 |
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| kulve | ok, now nothing happens from the power key | 09:21 |
| Jonni | if you change it to tklock-unlock, then it will never lock it :) | 09:21 |
| lbt | morning | 09:21 |
| kulve | it doesn't lock it now either | 09:21 |
| kulve | just breaks | 09:22 |
| rcg | you mean it still drops you to the console? | 09:22 |
| kulve | with mce killed, nothing happens | 09:22 |
| rcg | ok | 09:22 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: prerelease if possible | 09:22 |
| Stskeeps | let's make it for thursday next week | 09:22 |
| kulve | Stskeeps: does mce do that stuff alone, or does it just monitor the keys and then signal somebody? | 09:23 |
| Stskeeps | kulve: think it is the one handling some of the stuff | 09:23 |
| Stskeeps | might be useful to strace it | 09:23 |
| kulve | I guess mce shouldn't do anything with PA? | 09:23 |
| lbt | hmmm - OK - I've not even started on my rpmbuild plans :/ | 09:23 |
| kulve | i.e. shouldn't be installed in the first place? | 09:23 |
| rcg | kulve, will give it a try | 09:23 |
| rcg | just a sec | 09:23 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: just want a quick release for qtchooser, so | 09:24 |
| Stskeeps | without too big fuzz, as qt5 side of things were a bit broken | 09:24 |
| lbt | willdo | 09:25 |
| rcg | kulve, another thing i could observe is that when you keep it pressed it doesn't drop you to console | 09:26 |
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| kulve | PowerKeyLongAction=poweroff | 09:26 |
| rcg | alright, mce is running here as well | 09:28 |
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| rcg | great, stopping mce solves that issue here | 09:30 |
| rcg | just confirmed, after re-starting mce the issue is back as well | 09:30 |
| kulve | rcg: good | 09:30 |
| rcg | so, i will disable mce by default for the next pa release :) | 09:30 |
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| kulve | yeah | 09:30 |
| kulve | but I guess nemo assumes mce does that part.. | 09:31 |
| Stskeeps | just remember it may disable some useful power management stuff you need to control yourself then | 09:31 |
| rcg | hmm, think so | 09:31 |
| kulve | Stskeeps: like what..? | 09:31 |
| rcg | Stskeeps, roger that, thanks for the heads up | 09:31 |
| Stskeeps | well, suspend, display off, etc | 09:31 |
| kulve | I think PA does that already | 09:31 |
| Stskeeps | so do a smoke test | 09:31 |
| rcg | i think in pa, something else takes care of that | 09:31 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 09:32 |
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| rcg | so far suspend works, and also the screen gets dimmed after some inactivity | 09:32 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 09:33 |
| kulve | I wonder what "lock touchscreen/keypad lock if not locked" means. It seems to do something with the display too, etc. | 09:34 |
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| kulve | /** Sysfs entry for acquiring wakelocks */ | 09:50 |
| kulve | static const char lwl_lock_path[] = "/sys/power/wake_lock"; | 09:50 |
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| kulve | isn't the wake lock the android stuff..? Does mce use that somehow..? | 09:50 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 09:50 |
| kulve | should it be set in the kernel? | 09:51 |
| Stskeeps | we can't assume we have the nokia style power management, so mce supports wakelocks | 09:51 |
| kulve | and what's nokia style? | 09:51 |
| kulve | my kernel doesn't have wake locs | 09:51 |
| kulve | +k | 09:52 |
| Stskeeps | ok, then it wouldn't be using them | 09:52 |
| Stskeeps | the one where it's more up to kernel how to manage power management i think | 09:52 |
| Stskeeps | brb | 09:52 |
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| kulve | if I enabled wake locks in the kernel, there's also a new option: "User-space screen access (Console switch on early-suspend) --->" | 10:01 |
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| Stskeeps | hmm | 10:06 |
| kulve | that code is using acquire_console_sem() and release_console_sem() which doesn't seem to exist anymore.. | 10:07 |
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| kulve | Stskeeps: with wake locks it seems that mce tries to suspend (I'm not sure if it even tries without them): | 10:31 |
| kulve | [ 187.901728] request_suspend_state: sleep (0->3) | 10:32 |
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| kulve | also now when pressing power button after it was blanked I see a flash of the text console but then it switches to X.Org properly | 10:32 |
| Stskeeps | hmm, ok | 10:33 |
| kulve | should I select CONFIG_FB_EARLYSUSPEND or CONFIG_CONSOLE_EARLYSUSPEND ? | 10:33 |
| Stskeeps | kjoknie might be better at answering that in week days, they've been hacking on that a lot | 10:34 |
| kulve | i.e. "Sysfs interface" or "Console switch on early-suspend" | 10:34 |
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| kulve | down side is that now my wlan doesn't work. It seemed to work for a half a minute or show but now it's just stucked | 10:37 |
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| kulve | with CONFIG_FB_EARLYSUSPEND I don't get the XOrg back after power button | 11:06 |
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| kulve | I guess acquire_console_sem() should be replaced with console_lock() and release_console_sem() with console_unlock() | 11:13 |
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| Skry | yes | 11:32 |
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| kulve | why the wifi doesn't get connected if I enable wakelocks in the kernel | 11:37 |
| kulve | It's in the "Connecting" phase for ages and then gets internal IP 169.254.30.115, i.e. not a real one | 11:38 |
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| Stskeeps | does it go into suspend meanwhile? | 11:53 |
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| kulve | I can't really tell. If I have USB connected I don't think it suspends. If I don't have I don't know how I would tell if it's suspended.. | 11:55 |
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| kulve | the wifi driver does a lot of stuff if the wakelocks are enabled but I don't know why it doesn't work. Maybe it needs some extra initialisation from the user-space or something.. | 11:57 |
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| Stskeeps | rfkill? | 11:58 |
| kulve | iwconfig shows it properly etc. Just no data is passing | 11:58 |
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| kulve | 2: brcmfmac-wifi: Wireless LAN Soft blocked: no Hard blocked: no | 12:00 |
| kulve | 1: phy0: Wireless LAN | 12:00 |
| kulve | what's that? | 12:00 |
| rcg | kulve, just a sec | 12:01 |
| rcg | i can look into that here | 12:01 |
| rcg | iirc that brcm stuff is something related to bluetooth? | 12:01 |
| kulve | BT is there also | 12:01 |
| kulve | 0: bcm4330 Bluetooth: Bluetooth | 12:01 |
| rcg | ah no | 12:01 |
| rcg | you're right | 12:02 |
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| rcg | i also have the phy0 and brcm thing here | 12:03 |
| kulve | ok | 12:03 |
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| rcg | i could try and see which one is the actual wifi via trial and error | 12:04 |
| kulve | I guess it doesn't really matter.. | 12:04 |
| rcg | alright | 12:05 |
| rcg | well, just for the record: both phy and brcm-wifi are required | 12:06 |
| rcg | blocking either one of those causes the wifi to disconnect | 12:06 |
| kulve | ok, good to know | 12:06 |
| kulve | the driver has a lot of checks related to earlysuspend and wake locks. | 12:07 |
| rcg | kulve, if it helps i can pastebin the dmesg output of a suspend/resume cycle | 12:08 |
| rcg | there are indeed lots of things going on | 12:08 |
| kulve | please do. | 12:08 |
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| rcg | http://pastebin.com/3vGkSbcw | 12:14 |
| rcg | at time 696 i press the power button and it's going to suspend at 704 | 12:15 |
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| kulve | yeah, a lot happening there | 12:17 |
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| kulve | I wonder why mce assumes either Nokia or Android, when PA seems to assume Linux and that one works.. | 12:19 |
| Stskeeps | well, i guess with the kind of target devices it usually goes on, ie, android adaptations.. or n9s | 12:20 |
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| kulve | looks like the suspend works now. Now I just need to figure out why the wlan doesn't | 12:34 |
| kulve | but that have to wait | 12:34 |
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| rcg | btw kulve that dmesg output was with mce running | 12:45 |
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| CosmoHill | is there a Marty Two? | 15:05 |
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| * lbt hopes all OBS workers don't fall over and die | 16:11 | |
| * CosmoHill hopes too | 16:11 | |
| * lbt renames puppet to monkey so he can yell "monkey magic" \o/ | 16:13 | |
| lbt | https://build.merproject.org/monitor | 16:14 |
| phaeron | lbt: yay 8 more | 16:14 |
| CosmoHill | 4 cores each? | 16:15 |
| lbt | 4 workers, 2 core/worker | 16:15 |
| lbt | phaeron: yep - just doing a pre-release too | 16:15 |
| lbt | I hope the weekend comes soon ... | 16:15 |
| lbt | phaeron: that required a new build of obs server | 16:16 |
| lbt | to allow it to build on 12.2 | 16:17 |
| phaeron | lbt: ah cool , maybe systemd is better on 12.2 | 16:17 |
| lbt | hope so - only 2 workers on 12.2 atm and some vms | 16:17 |
| lbt | I need to bring more phosts up | 16:18 |
| lbt | ruby-ldap is failing | 16:18 |
| lbt | https://build.pub.meego.com/project/monitor?project=Mer%3AOBS | 16:19 |
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| rc_ | huzza to hw upgrade :) | 16:24 |
| lbt | thank the #active guys for their donation | 16:24 |
| rc_ | ah great :) | 16:25 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: i think 2 core/worker and -j2 may be a bit underusing them, btw | 16:30 |
| Stskeeps | they can probably do more in the average case | 16:30 |
| Stskeeps | we might want to collect some real data on that | 16:36 |
| Stskeeps | it's likely to be more i/o or tmpfs space bound | 16:37 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: I agree - I was watching recently and wondered about just bumping to -j3 | 16:44 |
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| rc_ | lbt, well, back then when i used gentoo they always used the rule of thumb: number of cores + 1 | 17:13 |
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| rc_ | so -j3 for 2 cores | 17:13 |
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| kulve | rule of thumbs are not very accurate. Especially if everything is on tmpfs | 17:14 |
| rc_ | aye | 17:14 |
| lbt | when I watched I saw the host running at 75% quite a lot - typically 2/4 kvm would be using 2 cores, the other 2 would use 1 | 17:15 |
| lbt | a reasonable amount of time is spent in the install phase | 17:15 |
| lbt | so I've upped it to -j3 and we can see how it goes | 17:15 |
| lbt | the problem of course is that I don't have old data - Stskeeps - you've done some measuring; did you write up your methodology? | 17:16 |
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| Stskeeps | no, it was usually done by feel - i did sb2 performance, not worker distribution | 17:17 |
| lbt | I did some comparisons of builds here + meego and we're faster | 17:21 |
| lbt | iirc they were mainly setup related | 17:21 |
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| lbt | anyhow - j3 now | 17:22 |
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| vgrade | lbt: had a funny with OBS earlier. Had a couple of packages branched from x86 adaptation in my home pointing to latest and next (can't remember if they were 586 or 486). They've been there a couple of weeks | 19:27 |
| vgrade | lbt: then I branched again from the x86 adaptation project one more package which pointed to 486/586 and x64 next and latest | 19:28 |
| vgrade | to stop things building I disabled all the repos at which point the gui put me back to the monitor window and the fist two packages were gone | 19:29 |
| vgrade | from my home branch project | 19:30 |
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| vgrade | lbt: false alarm home:vgrade:branches:nemo:devel:hw:x86-common, home:vgrade:branches:nemo:devel:hw:x86:x86-common | 19:39 |
| vgrade | looks like the adaptation project changed name | 19:40 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: btw, heads up: mer-next will require %qmake5 or qmake -qt=5 for qt5 packages | 19:40 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps: ok, I saw some talk about qt4/qt5 coexisting | 19:41 |
| lbt | vgrade: I should read log in reverse order :) | 19:47 |
| vgrade | lbt: sorry for the noise, | 19:49 |
| lbt | never a problem | 19:49 |
| vgrade | lbt: no tango tonight | 19:50 |
| lbt | last night + tomorrow :) | 19:51 |
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| CosmoHill | night night | 23:05 |
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