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| lbt | morning all | 08:43 |
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| auri__ | lbt: morning | 08:47 |
| lbt | hey | 08:47 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | hello lbt | 08:54 |
| lbt | o/ | 08:55 |
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| sledges | happy afterholidays! :) | 09:30 |
| lbt | :D | 09:31 |
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| slaine | morning folks | 09:47 |
| sledges | hello slaine, y'alright | 09:49 |
| slaine | Yeah, doing good | 09:49 |
| slaine | nice and relaxed after a good long weekend, needed it | 09:49 |
| chriadam | was the easter bunny generous? | 09:50 |
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| chriadam | I must say, it's one of the better long weekends in the year. chocolate is pretty amazing stuff. | 09:51 |
| lbt | there was chocolate? | 09:53 |
| chriadam | there certainly was, for me. I ate two lindt bunnies. | 09:53 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | chriadam: the golden bunnies ? | 10:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | they are tasty :) | 10:02 |
| chriadam | indeed they are :-) | 10:03 |
| chriadam | my dentist would probably disagree | 10:03 |
| chriadam | but vOv | 10:03 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | haha | 10:03 |
| slaine | I got a bar of 85% lindt, that's about it for me | 10:10 |
| slaine | spent lots of time with my kids and family, haven't seen much of them due to work over the last month or two | 10:10 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: we need macro like %{_testsdir} or so that points to /opt/tests/%{name} or so and make it globally available | 10:11 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 10:13 |
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| sledges | it's good to come back re-charged after long weekend trip back home, despite the horrid combo of jetlag+GMT->BST changes and unexpected winter wonderland there :) | 10:14 |
| Sage_ | not sure though where that should be defined. probably same place than others where ever that is | 10:14 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: referring to https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Quality/TestPackages | 10:14 |
| Stskeeps | will be at my desk in 45 min | 10:15 |
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| lbt | there should be a quicker way of doing a release when the final release == last pre-release as it usually is | 10:36 |
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| Stskeeps | yeah | 10:40 |
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| kulve | w00t: bug #712 | 11:01 |
| Merbot` | Mer bug 712 in qt-mobility "Allow overriding GST video sink with an environment variable" [Enhancement,New] https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=712 | 11:01 |
| w00t | kulve: I have some Qt bits to do this afternoon, I'll take care of it then, thanks | 11:05 |
| kulve | w00t: excellent, thanks | 11:05 |
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| sledges | any ideas how to change initial text mode console COLxROW amount (other than 80x25) on an embedded device (iMX53 in this case) ? | 12:16 |
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| kaltsi | lbt: wanna pull my osc patch (for better local preferred packages support) to mer osc? | 12:21 |
| slaine | sledges: other than vga= ? | 12:21 |
| lbt | sure | 12:21 |
| kaltsi | lbt: do you want a merge request or just use this repo? https://github.com/kaltsi/osc | 12:22 |
| lbt | repo is good | 12:25 |
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| sledges | slaine, wonder if iMX is vesa compatible. I found another tool: SVGATextMode. Wonder if iMX is SVGA compatible :)) but probably all those 15year.old legacies are still around, especially in an embedded world (unless they've reinvented the wheel) | 12:27 |
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| slaine | iirc, there's also fbset type commands to set whatever frame buffer is used to different modes, but I could be grasping at straws there :) | 12:28 |
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| sledges | how to handle this error (i.e. Prefer:) with osc build: "have choice for pkgconfig(egl): ..." ? | 12:59 |
| sledges | cheers slaine | 12:59 |
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| Sia-NookColor | ehem, I want to install Meego on my nook color | 15:04 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | Sia-NookColor: MeeGo is dead | 15:09 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | however, you can install one of their newer incarnations | 15:09 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | for example, try installing Mer might be a good idea | 15:10 |
| wmarone | heh | 15:10 |
| wmarone | and yet another person wanders down the nook color path | 15:10 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | wmarone: did you tried to hack the nook color ? | 15:10 |
| wmarone | oh yes, couple years ago | 15:10 |
| wmarone | tragically I didn't do any of it on the meego OBS so it's all debris in a VM for me today | 15:11 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | oh :( | 15:14 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but is it easy to hack ? | 15:14 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | maybe you should pick those debrits and starts again | 15:14 |
| Stskeeps | might be possible again with libhybris | 15:14 |
| wmarone | the nook color is easy to hack | 15:15 |
| wmarone | there's no lock outs on it, you just need to replace u-boot with something that will boot from the sd card slot | 15:15 |
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| wmarone | cyanogenmod will do that | 15:15 |
| wmarone | and yeah, libhybris would solve the graphics issue real quick | 15:16 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Stskeeps: once I got an Android device, I will try to play with libhybris | 15:16 |
| wmarone | I got hung up on the wifi library, I have no idea what TI was doing with that mess | 15:16 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but if I get a Sailfish one first, then ... | 15:16 |
| Stskeeps | i still use it as my e-reader but the UI is .. horrid | 15:16 |
| wmarone | I will say that I got rid of my nook color | 15:17 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 15:17 |
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| Sia-NookColor | wmarone: You are the one who told me you were the only one trying to install Meego on NC? | 15:25 |
| Sia-NookColor | I didn't know Mer is a different project | 15:25 |
| Sia-NookColor | I thought Mer uses meego as OS | 15:25 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Sia-NookColor: well, mer is a child from meego | 15:28 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Mer stands for MeeGo reconstructed so, it is a sort of continuation of MeeGo | 15:29 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | anyway, just see it as a MeeGo 2.0 | 15:29 |
| Sia-NookColor | OK | 15:32 |
| Sia-NookColor | Is Mer ever tried on nook color? | 15:33 |
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| wmarone | Sia-NookColor: yes, I was for a while | 15:34 |
| wmarone | others were interested but never really did anything | 15:35 |
| wmarone | Sia-NookColor: not since it formally branched, though that was my goal | 15:35 |
| Sia-NookColor | hmmmmm\ | 15:35 |
| wmarone | I had it booting to an Xorg instance with a Qt demo application working, Stskeeps helped me troubleshoot some touchscreen issues | 15:35 |
| Sia-NookColor | Mer should get nook manufacturers to use Mer | 15:35 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Sia-NookColor: not easy | 15:35 |
| Sia-NookColor | Who is the head of mer? | 15:35 |
| wmarone | more likely that the Nook will cease to exist or become something owned by MS before long | 15:36 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Sia-NookColor: mer is an open and meritocratic collaboration project | 15:36 |
| Sia-NookColor | He/She should send an email to Barnes and Noble | 15:36 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | there is no head of mer | 15:36 |
| wmarone | Sia-NookColor: doesn't -quite- work that way | 15:36 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | wmarone: +1 | 15:36 |
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| Kelteseth | What do you mean with "on nook color"? | 15:37 |
| wmarone | Kelteseth: i.e. boot Mer on the device | 15:38 |
| iekku | Sia-NookColor, btw, Mer itself doesn't provide UI, there's couple of open source project based on top of mer, one is nemo | 15:38 |
| Kelteseth | ahh thanks^^ | 15:38 |
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| Sia-NookColor | from what I remember Meego itself was a join of two project. Wasn't one of them nemo? | 15:40 |
| wmarone | no | 15:40 |
| wmarone | meego was presented as a merger of Moblin and Maemo | 15:40 |
| iekku | maemo and moblin | 15:40 |
| wmarone | though it was mostly Moblin, particularly on x86 | 15:40 |
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| Sia-NookColor | So I should forget it anyway | 15:42 |
| iekku | Sia-NookColor, ? | 15:43 |
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| iekku | Sia-NookColor, nemo+mer is ok combo | 15:44 |
| Sia-NookColor | One question: When nemo is on mer, nemo is up stream relative to mer? | 15:46 |
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| sledges | Sia-NookColor, Nemo is a set of packages providing a mobile OS UI (UX) and middle-ware (MW), which are installed in top of Mer (core) | 15:54 |
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| Sia-NookColor | Well you mean when I get Nemo I don't get Mer with it right? | 16:11 |
| sledges | Nemo cannot run without Mer | 16:12 |
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| sledges | you must have Mer running, and then you can have Nemo(or Seadot, or KDE Plasma Active, or Sailfish OS) on top of it, -- it's up to you | 16:13 |
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| lbt | kaltsi: incorporated your osc change ... fwiw I cherry picked a patch of mine on top and ran : gp_release --rel ... edited the changelog at the prompt... then pushed the resulting package .... not too hard :) | 16:17 |
| Kelteseth | try Seadot :) We're working right on the new Control Center: http://enigma-project.org/seadot/downloads/playground/Grid25ControlCenter.png | 16:18 |
| Kelteseth | right now* | 16:19 |
| lbt | looks rather nice | 16:21 |
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| Sia-NookColor | Thank you for advice. I may not see you for a while as there is no hope to run Mer on nook. | 16:24 |
| Sia-NookColor | So good bye | 16:25 |
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| sledges | right, some language barrier there was | 16:41 |
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| CosmoHill | hello | 17:07 |
| kaltsi | lbt: cool! where did you push it? I'm looking at github and can't see changes in mer-tools/osc ... | 17:07 |
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| lbt | https://github.com/mer-tools/osc/tree/pkg-mer-0.135.1-mer2 | 17:10 |
| lbt | but I relied on branch tracking which wasn't setup | 17:10 |
| lbt | pushing branches now | 17:10 |
| lbt | sry | 17:10 |
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| kaltsi | no prob.. I was just curious if you have some other master git repo somewhere :) | 17:11 |
| lbt | lots :D | 17:11 |
| lbt | annoyingly | 17:11 |
| lbt | I'm coming to a stable naming convention for mer packages too where we're not upstream | 17:12 |
| lbt | mer-master is our master and contains our patches as commits | 17:12 |
| lbt | fwiw it built here: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=osc&project=Mer%3ATools%3ATesting | 17:13 |
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| kaltsi | good good | 17:14 |
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| kulve | I tried to create nexus7 yamls in nemo-kickstarter-configs but the current head without any changes doesn't work (at least when following the README): | 17:17 |
| kulve | http://pastie.org/7281797 | 17:17 |
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| Artox | funny kulve, I just ran into same issue | 17:19 |
| Artox | with nemo-kickstarter-configs | 17:19 |
| kulve | I hope you solved it already? ;) | 17:19 |
| Artox | no | 17:19 |
| Artox | I ran into it "just now" | 17:19 |
| Artox | gta04 adaptation in my case | 17:19 |
| Artox | apparently the issue has nothing to do with newly added daptations | 17:21 |
| kulve | maybe too old mer-kickstarter? | 17:22 |
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| kulve | sage seems to be using some secret sdk as the mer sdk seems to have often too old tools.. | 17:22 |
| kulve | which is a bit annoying | 17:23 |
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| Artox | who knows, zypper up certianly shows mer-kickstarter update | 17:23 |
| kulve | (I really don't know what's wrong now but a long while ago I had too old mic for creating rootfs images) | 17:23 |
| kulve | I just updated my sdk | 17:24 |
| Artox | yeah, the update didnt make a difference | 17:27 |
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| Artox | so getting myself some food meanwhile | 17:27 |
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| Sage | kulve: not secret really, I'm just using the latest and the greatest :/ | 18:17 |
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| Sage | hmmp... lbt you didn't pick up the mer-kickstarter after all did you? | 18:19 |
| Sage | I though you did :/ | 18:19 |
| Sage | kulve: http://gitorious.org/~sage/meego-developer-tools/sages-kickstarter is the mer-kickstarter you need the 0.19 | 18:20 |
| Sage | kulve: that is the only stuff I've modified myself in my mer sdk. | 18:20 |
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| Sage | kulve: sry for the mess on this. The .ks files don't have proper release process atm. which makes it a bit hard to follow at times. Also I though that lbt took that 0.19 version already to mer tools but apparently I misunderstood :/ | 18:24 |
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| kulve | Sage: thanks for the update. I'll upgrade mine at some point and test again | 18:47 |
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| Sage | kulve: there will be larger change coming soonish for this as well. Also I would like to merge nexus7 stuff to the nemo git trees if that is ok. | 19:16 |
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| Artox | http://meego.gitorious.org/~sage/meego-developer-tools/sages-kickstarter/blobs/0.19/VERSION | 21:37 |
| Artox | <Sage> kulve: http://gitorious.org/~sage/meego-developer-tools/sages-kickstarter is the mer-kickstarter you need the 0.19 | 21:37 |
| Artox | I was building myself an rpm of this | 21:37 |
| Artox | and found that the VERSION file contains 0.18. That makes python stuff end up in /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/mer_kickstarter-0.18 | 21:38 |
| Artox | visually not that awesome when its named 0.19 | 21:38 |
| Artox | ofc I could in my specfile manually write into this file to fix all my troubles :) | 21:39 |
| Artox | would in my case be nice anyway | 21:39 |
| Artox | so thats what I'll do | 21:39 |
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| CosmoHill | night night | 21:50 |
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| Artox | os anyone aware of the git address for mer-kickstarter-configs ? | 22:14 |
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| Artox | only for downloading that is | 22:14 |
| Artox | for packagin, in fact | 22:14 |
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| Artox | or can I use git://review.merproject.org:29418/mer-core/mer-kickstarter-configs.git | 22:22 |
| Artox | the ssh link wnats a username but I'd prefer to do anonymous checkout | 22:23 |
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| lbt | Artox: http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer-core/mer-kickstarter-configs.git;a=summary | 22:27 |
| lbt | pretty sure you can http clone from the gitweb url too | 22:27 |
| Artox | oh | 22:27 |
| Artox | will try | 22:27 |
| Artox | no, doesnt work | 22:28 |
| Artox | and the given ssh:// link I cannot use since some automatic script will checkout | 22:28 |
| Artox | without any user information; beides I have no user there anyway | 22:28 |
| lbt | what automatic script are you thinking of? | 22:29 |
| Artox | OBS | 22:29 |
| Artox | _service | 22:30 |
| Artox | tar_scm | 22:30 |
| Artox | on opensuse OBS | 22:30 |
| Artox | since I am trying to package mer-kickstarter for suse | 22:30 |
| Artox | sdk is driving me mad sometimes | 22:30 |
| Artox | though I guess there will be some fighting to get mer package building using osc going | 22:30 |
| Artox | but .ks generation will be a nice thing | 22:30 |
| lbt | Well, I'm certainly not going to stop you - but I'd like to make the sdk work for you too | 22:31 |
| Artox | I end up getting a long directory path at start of my terminal. Cutting PS1 may help. When commandline beocmes multiline, going back and editing makes the current ocmmand unreadable | 22:31 |
| Artox | also, copying the result of mic to sdcard | 22:32 |
| Artox | is not o nice using chroot | 22:32 |
| Artox | bu the question is how do I find a clone address for the git repo | 22:32 |
| lbt | OK, when I use SDK I practically cannot tell I'm in it | 22:32 |
| Artox | https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=mer-kickstarter&project=home%3Amayerjosua%3AMer | 22:33 |
| Artox | packaging mer-kickstarter was pretty easy here | 22:33 |
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| lbt | yeah, it should be | 22:34 |
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| lbt | just fiddling with it | 22:39 |
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| lbt | mmm - not trivial | 22:41 |
| lbt | I'd need to ensure every repo has update-server-info run on it | 22:41 |
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| lbt | and it's gerrit, so I don't casually know how to enable http access on it | 22:43 |
| lbt | sorry Artox :( | 22:43 |
| lbt | what version of the SDK are you using? | 22:44 |
| lbt | the problems you describe seem unique | 22:44 |
| Artox | unique? | 22:46 |
| Artox | well | 22:46 |
| Artox | the one I downloaded about 2 weeks ago | 22:46 |
| Artox | mer-next-rolling-sdk or so | 22:47 |
| lbt | OK, have you run sdk-version --latest --go | 22:47 |
| lbt | ah damnit | 22:48 |
| Artox | in fact, never | 22:48 |
| Artox | so I guess I cant use source service for now with the repos on preview.merproject.org | 22:49 |
| lbt | run: sdk-version --core 0.20130218.1 --sdk 7.1.0 --go | 22:49 |
| lbt | not today | 22:49 |
| lbt | I'm working on setting up git.merproject.org - but that will be a few weeks yet I'm afraid | 22:49 |
| Artox | and there were some more issues with the sdk in fact. unmounting it will unmount system directoreies rendering the whole system unusable | 22:49 |
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| Artox | ok | 22:49 |
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| Artox | so where can I register my ssh key for the current repos? | 22:50 |
| lbt | Artox: that just shouldn't happen (obviously) | 22:50 |
| lbt | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Contribution_in_detail should walk through it | 22:50 |
| Artox | yeah | 22:50 |
| lbt | Artox: so if you have SDK problems we *will* try to fix them | 22:50 |
| Artox | thought of it the moment I hit enter | 22:51 |
| Artox | so whne I have a good day I may report them | 22:51 |
| lbt | *g* please do | 22:51 |
| Artox | running that command now | 22:51 |
| lbt | I take it you run suse? | 22:51 |
| Artox | yes | 22:52 |
| lbt | I use that a lot on servers but not day-to-day for SDK - pretty sure I have them together though | 22:54 |
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| lbt | I'll double check 'soon' | 22:54 |
| Artox | ok | 22:55 |
| Artox | though there's something I'd prefer about the sdk | 22:55 |
| Artox | beeing able to mount it by fstab | 22:55 |
| lbt | well, we have a *really* neat approach coming up - using kernel namespaces | 22:56 |
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| Artox | and I personally dont think I'd need my home directory mounted, /parentroot does it fine | 22:56 |
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| Artox | from what I read they are pretty awesome for chroots | 22:56 |
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| lbt | yup - there's a patch already submitted - I need time to make it backward compatible | 22:57 |
| lbt | not had much motivation - most users seem to find it works OK; that's why I was surprised | 22:57 |
| lbt | would be interested to see what goes wrong | 22:58 |
| lbt | anyhow - gotta go, being called :D | 22:58 |
| Artox | not many suse users around I guess | 22:58 |
| lbt | 'night all | 22:58 |
| lbt | :P | 22:58 |
| Artox | gn | 22:58 |
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| Artox | and success :). mer-kickstarter working fine without chroot | 23:09 |
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