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slaine | morning folks | 08:16 |
iekku | morning | 08:17 |
yunta | way-too-early morning | 08:19 |
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kheldar | y'a quelqu'un ? | 09:42 |
Stskeeps | what? | 09:42 |
Stskeeps | :P | 09:42 |
kheldar | hello | 09:42 |
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fk_lx | Stskeeps ne parle pas francais :-) | 09:45 |
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Bostik | oh, that wasn't the language of Rhyeliah? | 09:49 |
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jcr09 | Hello, I have mer running on a nexus 7, and I need opengl libraries to compile something, does anyone know if they're in any of the default repos, and if so, what they're called? | 12:49 |
Stskeeps | pkgconfig(egl) pkgconfig(glesv2) | 12:50 |
Stskeeps | as buildrequires | 12:50 |
kulve | is that enough or do you still need to Prefer the tegra ones..? | 12:52 |
Stskeeps | well, it depends on where you're building | 12:52 |
kulve | jcr09: in general you can compile against Mer Core generic versions and it will just work on nexus 7 with the tegra specific libs | 12:52 |
kulve | graphics-adaptation-tegra3-libGLESv2-devel is the name of tegra specific package, but as said, you shouldn't depend explicitly on that | 12:54 |
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jcr09 | ok, becaus I think i have all the packages i need, and it still isn't finding them, I'll try the tegra specific and see if that helps, thanks | 12:56 |
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crevetor | Stskeeps: "company taking my project, behind doors for mnths, doing public tech demos, instead of collaborating in open and improving together" talking about Jolla or Canonical ? | 13:47 |
leinir | Canonical | 13:47 |
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Stskeeps | i don't want to name names, but it'd be silly if i meant jolla considering that i wrote the policy myself.. | 13:55 |
Stskeeps | :P | 13:56 |
leinir | Hehe, you can't name names, just leave that up to the analysts^wbloggers^winternet ;) | 13:58 |
Stskeeps | ^wfanclub | 13:58 |
leinir | Ah yes, indeed :) | 13:58 |
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niro | hi | 14:04 |
Stskeeps | hello | 14:04 |
niro | i am represent iaffiliates | 14:05 |
niro | casino.com | 14:05 |
Stskeeps | okay, so what brings you here? | 14:05 |
niro | i am looking for serphawk | 14:05 |
Stskeeps | not sure who that is.. | 14:05 |
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niro | do | 14:07 |
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niro | do you advertise casino here | 14:08 |
fk_lx | niro: mer is not a casino, read more at www.merproject.org | 14:09 |
crevetor | isn't this Mir nonsense just a way to please vendors who don't want to make open-source drivers ? | 14:12 |
crevetor | AFAIK we don't know under what license it's going to be released right ? | 14:12 |
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crevetor | nevermind it's actually under GPL. | 14:16 |
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CosmoHill | From Phoronix: A Note To Canonical: "Don't Piss On Wayland" | 14:39 |
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Mirv | Stskeeps: fyi libhybris (and others) upstreaming being discussed in an UDS session in 10mins, probably not so interesting otherwise but hopefully will result in some useful patches soon | 15:51 |
ali1234 | Mirv: which session? this one? http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1303/meeting/21689/client-1303-hw-video-decode-rendering-support/ | 15:57 |
Mirv | ali1234: the first item of this one http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1303/meeting/21606/client-1303-ubuntu-touch-porting/ - but I gather it'll mostly consist of rsalveti saying that he's working on it | 15:58 |
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crevetor | They'll just reimplement it... | 16:03 |
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Stskeeps | Mirv, yeah, that'd have been lovely to know of in advance | 16:28 |
Stskeeps | will merge anything useful anyway | 16:33 |
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kulve | how can I start qmlviewe with mcompositor manually? What do I need to launch with what parameters and in which order..? | 16:52 |
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Stskeeps | mcompositor & | 16:57 |
Stskeeps | qmlviewer -opengl -fullscreen | 16:57 |
kulve | MRmi::invoke(): "QLocalSocket::connectToServer: Connection refused" "/home/nemo/.mabstractdecorator" | 17:00 |
kulve | is that a problem? | 17:00 |
kulve | oh, --fullscreen makes it works. Otherwise it just (sometimes) flashes there, but then it's all black | 17:01 |
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kulve | now running with runtime=meego but everything still goes black when the keyboard popups using the browser.. | 17:03 |
kulve | file:///usr/lib/qt4/imports/com/nokia/meego/TextField.qml:286:5: QML BorderImage: Failed to get image from provider: image://theme/meegotouch-textedit-background-selected | 17:03 |
kulve | although I'm seeing that kind of errors as well | 17:04 |
Stskeeps | mthemedaemon & | 17:05 |
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kulve | Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. | 17:37 |
kulve | 0x41b8026c in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtOpenGL.so.4 | 17:37 |
kulve | that's from maliit with meego runtime.. | 17:38 |
kulve | what was the name of the qt debuginfo package..? | 17:40 |
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Stskeeps | aqt-debuginfo | 17:42 |
Stskeeps | without a | 17:42 |
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kulve | help to have the repo enabled.. Do I also need debugsource..? | 17:43 |
kulve | Overall download size: 175.3 MiB. After the operation, additional 508.5 MiB will be used. | 17:43 |
kulve | .. | 17:43 |
kulve | it's nice to have "embedded" device with 12Gt available space :) | 17:43 |
Stskeeps | hehe | 17:44 |
Stskeeps | i have been working last week on very handy stuff in that area | 17:44 |
Stskeeps | next mer core makes it nicer :P | 17:44 |
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slyon | hi! I'm currently trying to boot nemo on my device. what is the init parameter I've to pass from uboot? I can't find any /sbin/init, /bin/systemd, /etc/init.d/rcS, /linuxrc | 18:38 |
CosmoHill | try init=/bin/bash and see if you get anything from that | 18:39 |
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slyon | CosmoHill, yes. bash is working. I've now a shell on the serial console | 18:42 |
slyon | hmm i just wonder... is "nemo_next_target_armv7hl.tar.bz2" the SDK rather than a rootfs? | 18:43 |
kulve | I don't pass any init= parameter | 18:43 |
kulve | default seems to work | 18:43 |
slyon | kulve, not for me. I'm on a new device (OpenPhoenux GTA04) | 18:43 |
slyon | what should be the init binary mer/nemo is using? | 18:44 |
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Stskeeps | sbin/init - if it's not there, you have a problem with your image | 18:48 |
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kulve | slyon: having proper init doesn't yet start anything. You need that rest. | 18:49 |
slyon | kulve, of course. but i need a proper init, before I can start the rest :) | 18:49 |
slyon | Stskeeps, thanks. that's what i expected. looks like i've got a wrong tarball | 18:51 |
ali1234 | Stskeeps: i just noticed this: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1303/meeting/21626/client-1303-containers-host-client-ubuntu-android/ | 18:51 |
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ali1234 | seems relevant to what you were saying the other day | 18:51 |
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lbt_ | Stskeeps: should I get a pin and a calendar? | 19:14 |
lbt_ | or 0.20130314.0.1 ? | 19:14 |
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Stskeeps | lbt_: 14 sounds like a nice target | 19:27 |
lbt_ | *nod* ... here we go then - I bet I need more disk... | 19:28 |
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lpotter | sensorfw backend just got merged to qt5 sensors. will be released with qt 5.1 :) yay! | 20:10 |
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Merftead | hellooooooooooo | 20:11 |
Stskeeps | hello | 20:11 |
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Stskeeps | lbt_: woo | 20:11 |
Merftead | Eherhermm.. | 20:11 |
lbt_ | :) | 20:11 |
* lbt_ wonders what's woo-worthy? | 20:12 | |
lbt_ | although the pre-release is going | 20:12 |
Merftead | Do you know if I can install Mer in to this device? Hyundai A7 → http://pastebin.com/zRV7UiW1 (the hardware info is from an Android application) | 20:12 |
Merftead | Following this steps → http://community.kde.org/Plasma/Active/Installation#Install_Plasma_Active_on_ARM_Systems | 20:13 |
Stskeeps | err.. lpotter | 20:14 |
* lbt_ wanders off feeling totally un-woo'ed | 20:15 | |
lbt_ | Merftead: the answer is usually "can you boot your own kernel and flash a rootfs?" | 20:15 |
lbt_ | Merftead: Then you need to look at the gfx and other drivers | 20:16 |
lbt_ | which can be used but may take some serious hacking | 20:16 |
Merftead | I'm a end user | 20:17 |
lbt_ | Merftead: so realistically .. no, sorry. | 20:18 |
Merftead | I can't put a image in a SD card and boot it like a pc? | 20:18 |
lbt_ | if you've found guides for plasma active on that device, then yes | 20:19 |
lbt_ | usually not | 20:19 |
lbt_ | the answer is extremely device model specific | 20:19 |
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Merftead | hmm | 20:24 |
lpotter | Stskeeps: code freeze for 5.1 is coming up. had to get it in. merged just after the android sensors did | 20:24 |
Merftead | So.. | 20:24 |
Merftead | Is not there a global image? | 20:27 |
lpotter | Stskeeps: in the past someone thought adding a sensor backend meant adding a feature | 20:28 |
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Merftead | And what I can do? | 20:33 |
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Merftead | This is my hardware → http://pastebin.com/zRV7UiW1 | 20:41 |
Merftead | Can you check it for if I can install Mer? | 20:41 |
Merftead | I want Plasma Active and I don't want Android | 20:41 |
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Artox | Merftead: the question is usually: do you have kernel source and can you install a custom system | 20:45 |
Artox | additionally graphcis drivers for linux(not android) are needed | 20:45 |
Merftead | So it's impossible to get a GNU/Linux system on an Android tablet if I'm a user? | 20:47 |
lbt_ | Merftead: not impossible - but Mer isn't an end -user project | 20:49 |
lbt_ | Merftead: our project doesn't really have a kernel | 20:49 |
Merftead | Hm... And do you know what I can install with Plasma Active? | 20:49 |
lbt_ | we provide a base for other projects to build on | 20:49 |
Merftead | I really don't Like Android.. | 20:49 |
lbt_ | so personally I don't look at hardware adaptations | 20:50 |
lbt_ | and right now it doesn't look like anyone on here has an answer | 20:50 |
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Merftead | Thank you btw :) | 20:51 |
lbt_ | sorry it's not more useful | 20:51 |
thp | lbt_: had a chance to look at https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=zsh&project=home%3Athp%3Atools already? :) | 20:53 |
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lbt_ | yeah - it wasn't quite right | 21:00 |
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lbt_ | the intent is to have the patch in a git branch | 21:01 |
lbt_ | I'll redo it and show you | 21:01 |
thp | or you can tell me and i'll do it if that's easier for you ;) | 21:02 |
thp | so i checkout the version tag, create a new branch and then in _src point to that branch? | 21:02 |
lbt_ | yes | 21:02 |
thp | so that the patch is already included in the tarball that gets created? | 21:02 |
lbt_ | and tag the tip | 21:02 |
lbt_ | no | 21:03 |
lbt_ | _src has 2 tags | 21:03 |
lbt_ | git:zsh-xyz.tar.gz:tag1:tag2 | 21:03 |
thp | ah! | 21:03 |
lbt_ | and it makes tarball using git archive at tag1 | 21:03 |
lbt_ | then makes a patchset tag1-tag2 | 21:03 |
thp | that helps :) | 21:04 |
lbt_ | then spits out stuff to edit the spec/yaml | 21:04 |
thp | but i then have to specify these patches names in the yaml? | 21:04 |
lbt_ | there's code somewhere to patch it | 21:04 |
thp | ok, i'll try it and report back | 21:04 |
lbt_ | I have some WIP code at home | 21:04 |
lbt_ | the workflow isn't great atm | 21:04 |
thp | but it's pretty useful then - you can just "git rebase" your changes on top of the next release when it comes out (if i understood that correctly) | 21:05 |
lbt_ | yes, exactly | 21:06 |
thp | or even submit single patches upstream for inclusion where it makes sense | 21:06 |
lbt_ | yes | 21:06 |
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lbt_ | it also works with pristine-tar | 21:06 |
lbt_ | and combinations too for projects that have git but actually release a post-processed tarball | 21:07 |
lbt_ | all tested and work | 21:07 |
lbt_ | also supports dual-git repos | 21:07 |
lbt_ | eg opensuse has 2 tarballs to make an OBS server package | 21:07 |
thp | so the "mer-5.0.2-1" tag is in the pkg-mer branch, or is that in the upstream branch where i base my changes on the tag? | 21:08 |
lbt_ | so there's a few interesting cases it needs to grok | 21:08 |
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lbt_ | so | 21:08 |
lbt_ | mer-X.Y.Z-R is the mer src for XYZ-R | 21:08 |
lbt_ | pkg-mer-X.Y.Z-R is the mer packaging for XYZ-R | 21:09 |
lbt_ | typically (for pkgs with upstream) we use their tag for archive | 21:09 |
thp | and mer packaging HEAD is the "pkg-mer" branch, right? | 21:09 |
lbt_ | yes | 21:10 |
thp | is there a convention for naming the branch that starts at the upstream tag for the release version and includes my patches i need for packaging? | 21:10 |
lbt_ | (aside: you could have pkg-vendor alongside using the same src tree) | 21:10 |
lbt_ | no | 21:11 |
lbt_ | although | 21:11 |
lbt_ | whilst hacking I name that branch with the tag I plan to use | 21:11 |
lbt_ | then I add a patch, maybe 2, maybe fixup | 21:12 |
lbt_ | then I delete the branch and make a tag there | 21:12 |
thp | ok so the branch isn't intended to be published as such | 21:12 |
thp | except for the tag | 21:12 |
lbt_ | no.... that's a bit subtle - but it helps workflow | 21:13 |
thp | is that "mer-X.Y.Z-R is the mer src for XYZ-R" and "pkg-mer-X.Y.Z-R is the mer packaging for XYZ-R" documented somewhere? | 21:13 |
lbt_ | in the readme :) | 21:13 |
lbt_ | tldr | 21:13 |
lbt_ | and probably slightly wrong | 21:14 |
thp | yup ;) once the workflow is a bit clearer, https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Git_pkg might be a good place to put some bullet-point best practices | 21:14 |
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lbt_ | *g* ... tbh what happened is months of use in isolation and limited doc hacking; then suddenly people cared ! | 21:15 |
lbt_ | and now I'm drowning in SDK so ... | 21:15 |
lbt_ | but it's on my short term TODO as I now have real users | 21:15 |
lbt_ | also Sage should use it in Nemo now we have sane source service in OBS | 21:16 |
thp | running gp_mkpkg gives me the patches entries for the yaml file | 21:18 |
lbt_ | yes | 21:19 |
thp | i guess i can ignore the spec file changes, as this will be done when i run specify on the yaml? | 21:19 |
thp | and I guess i don't "git add" the 000{1,...}-*.patch files and commit it to the pkg-mer branch, only the .yaml and .spec files? | 21:20 |
lbt_ | so, spec file is usually handled purely by running specify | 21:21 |
lbt_ | and no, don't add the .patch files | 21:21 |
lbt_ | pkg-mer branch should contain only 4 files | 21:22 |
lbt_ | _src .yaml .spec .changes | 21:22 |
lbt_ | normally | 21:22 |
lbt_ | I think I looked for a py-yaml thing | 21:22 |
thp | yup | 21:22 |
lbt_ | but ended up using sed :) | 21:23 |
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thp | lbt_: so this is what it looks like now: http://o.thp.io/tmp/zsh-pkg-mer.png | 21:25 |
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thp | bd66c62 is the "orphan" branch, it's not attached to 77bd3b3 | 21:25 |
* lbt_ mentally converts to gitk --all | 21:25 | |
thp | you can also clone git://github.com/thp/mer-tools-zsh.git and look at it with your favorite tool | 21:27 |
lbt_ | error: unable to create temporary sha1 filename .git/objects/a7: No space left on device# | 21:28 |
lbt_ | bbiam | 21:28 |
lbt_ | thp: yep - looks great | 21:32 |
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thp | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Git_pkg is now updated with some info, hope i got everything correct | 21:46 |
lbt_ | ty ... really :) | 21:49 |
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thp | it's also updated in OBS now.. https://build.pub.meego.com/package/files?package=zsh&project=home%3Athp%3Atools .. just in case you want to pull it into Mer Tools Testing or something | 21:50 |
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sardini | hello | 21:59 |
CosmoHill | hi | 21:59 |
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CosmoHill | Ubunru's Mir: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/58/Mir2_l_p.jpg | 22:04 |
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lbt_ | thp: you may want to do a nice clean one :) | 22:05 |
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thp | lbt_: what do you mean with nice and clean? because of the revision history? or is there still something wrong with the packaging? | 22:09 |
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lbt_ | thp: yes, just the history | 22:10 |
lbt_ | I'd class that as learning, not really packaging history | 22:10 |
thp | hehe ;) true - so how do i do that? | 22:10 |
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thp | is there some magic osc command or will i have to remove it from the obs and re-add the files? | 22:11 |
lbt_ | copy the git-pkg files somewhere safe and follow your instructions on the wiki | 22:11 |
lbt_ | oh, I only mean git | 22:11 |
lbt_ | osc is not important | 22:11 |
thp | ah ok | 22:11 |
thp | so revision 2 becomes revision 1 etc | 22:11 |
lbt_ | yeah | 22:12 |
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thp | is the changes file format okay like that? https://github.com/thp/mer-tools-zsh/blob/pkg-mer-5.0.2-1/zsh.changes or does it have to have the RPM revision in the version? | 22:20 |
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thp | cleaned up version pushed to git and obs | 22:27 |
vgrade | thp: thanks for the wiki page updates | 22:32 |
vgrade | thp: nice article on harmatten to sailfish | 22:32 |
lbt_ | thp: changes file is OK - in future I plan to take Version: and Release: from .changes | 22:35 |
lbt_ | anyhow... bed | 22:35 |
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