Tuesday, 2013-03-05

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redrivedmorning :)03:26
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slainemorning folks08:16
yuntaway-too-early morning08:19
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kheldary'a quelqu'un ?09:42
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fk_lxStskeeps ne parle pas francais :-)09:45
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Bostikoh, that wasn't the language of Rhyeliah?09:49
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jcr09Hello, I have mer running on a nexus 7, and I need opengl libraries to compile something, does anyone know if they're in any of the default repos, and if so, what they're called?12:49
Stskeepspkgconfig(egl) pkgconfig(glesv2)12:50
Stskeepsas buildrequires12:50
kulveis that enough or do you still need to Prefer the tegra ones..?12:52
Stskeepswell, it depends on where you're building12:52
kulvejcr09: in general you can compile against Mer Core generic versions and it will just work on nexus 7 with the tegra specific libs12:52
kulvegraphics-adaptation-tegra3-libGLESv2-devel is the name of tegra specific package, but as said, you shouldn't depend explicitly on that12:54
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jcr09ok, becaus I think i have all the packages i need, and it still isn't finding them, I'll try the tegra specific and see if that helps, thanks12:56
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crevetorStskeeps: "company taking my project, behind doors for mnths, doing public tech demos, instead of collaborating in open and improving together" talking about Jolla or Canonical ?13:47
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Stskeepsi don't want to name names, but it'd be silly if i meant jolla considering that i wrote the policy myself..13:55
leinirHehe, you can't name names, just leave that up to the analysts^wbloggers^winternet ;)13:58
Stskeeps ^wfanclub13:58
leinirAh yes, indeed :)13:58
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niroi am represent iaffiliates14:05
Stskeepsokay, so what brings you here?14:05
niroi am looking for serphawk14:05
Stskeepsnot sure who that is..14:05
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nirodo you advertise casino here14:08
fk_lxniro: mer is not a casino, read more at www.merproject.org14:09
crevetorisn't this Mir nonsense just a way to please vendors who don't want to make open-source drivers ?14:12
crevetorAFAIK we don't know under what license it's going to be released right ?14:12
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crevetornevermind it's actually under GPL.14:16
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CosmoHillFrom Phoronix: A Note To Canonical: "Don't Piss On Wayland"14:39
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MirvStskeeps: fyi libhybris (and others) upstreaming being discussed in an UDS session in 10mins, probably not so interesting otherwise but hopefully will result in some useful patches soon15:51
ali1234Mirv: which session? this one?  http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1303/meeting/21689/client-1303-hw-video-decode-rendering-support/15:57
Mirvali1234: the first item of this one http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1303/meeting/21606/client-1303-ubuntu-touch-porting/ - but I gather it'll mostly consist of rsalveti saying that he's working on it15:58
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crevetorThey'll just reimplement it...16:03
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StskeepsMirv, yeah, that'd have been lovely to know of in advance16:28
Stskeepswill merge anything useful anyway16:33
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kulvehow can I start qmlviewe with mcompositor manually? What do I need to launch with what parameters and in which order..?16:52
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Stskeepsmcompositor &16:57
Stskeepsqmlviewer -opengl -fullscreen16:57
kulveMRmi::invoke(): "QLocalSocket::connectToServer: Connection refused" "/home/nemo/.mabstractdecorator"17:00
kulveis that a problem?17:00
kulveoh, --fullscreen makes it works. Otherwise it just (sometimes) flashes there, but then it's all black17:01
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kulvenow running with runtime=meego but everything still goes black when the keyboard popups using the browser..17:03
kulvefile:///usr/lib/qt4/imports/com/nokia/meego/TextField.qml:286:5: QML BorderImage: Failed to get image from provider: image://theme/meegotouch-textedit-background-selected17:03
kulvealthough I'm seeing that kind of errors as well17:04
Stskeepsmthemedaemon &17:05
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kulveProgram received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.17:37
kulve0x41b8026c in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtOpenGL.so.417:37
kulvethat's from maliit with meego runtime..17:38
kulvewhat was the name of the qt debuginfo package..?17:40
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Stskeepswithout a17:42
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kulvehelp to have the repo enabled.. Do I also need debugsource..?17:43
kulveOverall download size: 175.3 MiB. After the operation, additional 508.5 MiB will be used.17:43
kulveit's nice to have "embedded" device with 12Gt available space :)17:43
Stskeepsi have been working last week on very handy stuff in that area17:44
Stskeepsnext mer core makes it nicer :P17:44
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slyonhi! I'm currently trying to boot nemo on my device. what is the init parameter I've to pass from uboot? I can't find any /sbin/init, /bin/systemd, /etc/init.d/rcS, /linuxrc18:38
CosmoHilltry init=/bin/bash and see if you get anything from that18:39
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slyonCosmoHill, yes. bash is working. I've now a shell on the serial console18:42
slyonhmm i just wonder... is "nemo_next_target_armv7hl.tar.bz2" the SDK rather than a rootfs?18:43
kulveI don't pass any init= parameter18:43
kulvedefault seems to work18:43
slyonkulve, not for me. I'm on a new device (OpenPhoenux GTA04)18:43
slyonwhat should be the init binary mer/nemo is using?18:44
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Stskeepssbin/init -  if it's not there, you have a problem with your image18:48
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kulveslyon: having proper init doesn't yet start anything. You need that rest.18:49
slyonkulve, of course. but i need a proper init, before I can start the rest :)18:49
slyonStskeeps, thanks. that's what i expected. looks like i've got a wrong tarball18:51
ali1234Stskeeps: i just noticed this: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1303/meeting/21626/client-1303-containers-host-client-ubuntu-android/18:51
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ali1234seems relevant to what you were saying the other day18:51
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lbt_Stskeeps: should I get  a pin and a calendar?19:14
lbt_or 0.20130314.0.1 ?19:14
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Stskeepslbt_: 14 sounds like a nice target19:27
lbt_*nod* ... here we go then - I bet I need more disk...19:28
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lpottersensorfw backend just got merged to qt5 sensors. will be released with qt 5.1 :) yay!20:10
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Stskeepslbt_: woo20:11
* lbt_ wonders what's woo-worthy?20:12
lbt_although the pre-release is going20:12
MerfteadDo you know if I can install Mer in to this device? Hyundai A7 → http://pastebin.com/zRV7UiW1 (the hardware info is from an Android application)20:12
MerfteadFollowing this steps → http://community.kde.org/Plasma/Active/Installation#Install_Plasma_Active_on_ARM_Systems20:13
Stskeepserr.. lpotter20:14
* lbt_ wanders off feeling totally un-woo'ed20:15
lbt_Merftead: the answer is usually "can you boot your own kernel and flash a rootfs?"20:15
lbt_Merftead: Then you need to look at the gfx and other drivers20:16
lbt_which can be used but may take some serious hacking20:16
MerfteadI'm a end user20:17
lbt_Merftead: so realistically .. no, sorry.20:18
MerfteadI can't put a image in a SD card and boot it like a pc?20:18
lbt_if you've found guides for plasma active on that device, then  yes20:19
lbt_usually not20:19
lbt_the answer is extremely device model specific20:19
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lpotterStskeeps: code freeze for 5.1 is coming up. had to get it in. merged just after the android sensors did20:24
MerfteadIs not there a global image?20:27
lpotterStskeeps: in the past someone thought adding a sensor backend meant adding a feature20:28
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MerfteadAnd what I can do?20:33
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MerfteadThis is my hardware → http://pastebin.com/zRV7UiW120:41
MerfteadCan you check it for if I can install Mer?20:41
MerfteadI want Plasma Active and I don't want Android20:41
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ArtoxMerftead: the question is usually: do you have kernel source and can you install a custom system20:45
Artoxadditionally graphcis drivers for linux(not android) are needed20:45
MerfteadSo it's impossible to get a GNU/Linux system on an Android tablet if I'm a user?20:47
lbt_Merftead: not impossible - but Mer isn't an end -user project20:49
lbt_Merftead: our project doesn't really have a kernel20:49
MerfteadHm... And do you know what I can install with Plasma Active?20:49
lbt_we provide a base for other projects to build on20:49
MerfteadI really don't Like Android..20:49
lbt_so personally I don't look at hardware adaptations20:50
lbt_and right now it doesn't look like anyone on here has an answer20:50
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MerfteadThank you btw :)20:51
lbt_sorry it's not more useful20:51
thplbt_: had a chance to look at https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=zsh&project=home%3Athp%3Atools already? :)20:53
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lbt_yeah - it wasn't quite right21:00
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lbt_the intent is to have the patch in a git branch21:01
lbt_I'll redo it and show you21:01
thpor you can tell me and i'll do it if that's easier for you ;)21:02
thpso i checkout the version tag, create a new branch and then in _src point to that branch?21:02
thpso that the patch is already included in the tarball that gets created?21:02
lbt_and tag the tip21:02
lbt__src has 2 tags21:03
lbt_and it makes tarball using git archive at tag121:03
lbt_then makes a patchset tag1-tag221:03
thpthat helps :)21:04
lbt_then spits out stuff to edit the spec/yaml21:04
thpbut i then have to specify these patches names in the yaml?21:04
lbt_there's code somewhere to patch it21:04
thpok, i'll try it and report back21:04
lbt_I have some WIP code at home21:04
lbt_the workflow isn't great atm21:04
thpbut it's pretty useful then - you can just "git rebase" your changes on top of the next release when it comes out (if i understood that correctly)21:05
lbt_yes, exactly21:06
thpor even submit single patches upstream for inclusion where it makes sense21:06
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lbt_it also works with pristine-tar21:06
lbt_and combinations too for projects that have git but actually release a post-processed tarball21:07
lbt_all tested and work21:07
lbt_also supports dual-git repos21:07
lbt_eg opensuse has 2 tarballs to make an OBS server package21:07
thpso the "mer-5.0.2-1" tag is in the pkg-mer branch, or is that in the upstream branch where i base my changes on the tag?21:08
lbt_so there's a few interesting cases it needs to grok21:08
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lbt_mer-X.Y.Z-R is the mer src for XYZ-R21:08
lbt_pkg-mer-X.Y.Z-R is the mer packaging for XYZ-R21:09
lbt_typically (for pkgs with upstream) we use their tag for archive21:09
thpand mer packaging HEAD is the "pkg-mer" branch, right?21:09
thpis there a convention for naming the branch that starts at the upstream tag for the release version and includes my patches i need for packaging?21:10
lbt_(aside: you could have pkg-vendor alongside using the same src tree)21:10
lbt_whilst hacking I name that branch with the tag I plan to use21:11
lbt_then I add a patch, maybe 2, maybe fixup21:12
lbt_then I delete the branch and make a tag there21:12
thpok so the branch isn't intended to be published as such21:12
thpexcept for the tag21:12
lbt_no.... that's a bit subtle - but it helps workflow21:13
thpis that "mer-X.Y.Z-R is the mer src for XYZ-R" and "pkg-mer-X.Y.Z-R is the mer packaging for XYZ-R" documented somewhere?21:13
lbt_in the readme :)21:13
lbt_and probably slightly wrong21:14
thpyup ;) once the workflow is a bit clearer, https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Git_pkg might be a good place to put some bullet-point best practices21:14
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lbt_*g* ... tbh what happened is months of use in isolation and limited doc hacking; then suddenly people cared !21:15
lbt_and now I'm drowning in SDK so ...21:15
lbt_but it's on my short term TODO as I now have real users21:15
lbt_also Sage should use it in Nemo now we have sane source service in OBS21:16
thprunning gp_mkpkg gives me the patches entries for the yaml file21:18
thpi guess i can ignore the spec file changes, as this will be done when i run specify on the yaml?21:19
thpand I guess i don't "git add" the 000{1,...}-*.patch files and commit it to the pkg-mer branch, only the .yaml and .spec files?21:20
lbt_so, spec file is usually handled purely by running specify21:21
lbt_and no, don't add the .patch files21:21
lbt_pkg-mer branch should contain only 4 files21:22
lbt__src  .yaml .spec .changes21:22
lbt_I think I looked for a py-yaml thing21:22
lbt_but ended up using sed :)21:23
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thplbt_: so this is what it looks like now: http://o.thp.io/tmp/zsh-pkg-mer.png21:25
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thpbd66c62 is the "orphan" branch, it's not attached to 77bd3b321:25
* lbt_ mentally converts to gitk --all21:25
thpyou can also clone git://github.com/thp/mer-tools-zsh.git and look at it with your favorite tool21:27
lbt_error: unable to create temporary sha1 filename .git/objects/a7: No space left on device#21:28
lbt_thp: yep - looks great21:32
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thphttps://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Git_pkg is now updated with some info, hope i got everything correct21:46
lbt_ty ... really :)21:49
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thpit's also updated in OBS now.. https://build.pub.meego.com/package/files?package=zsh&project=home%3Athp%3Atools .. just in case you want to pull it into Mer Tools Testing or something21:50
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CosmoHillUbunru's Mir: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/58/Mir2_l_p.jpg22:04
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lbt_thp: you may want to do a nice clean one :)22:05
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thplbt_: what do you mean with nice and clean? because of the revision history? or is there still something wrong with the packaging?22:09
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lbt_thp: yes, just the history22:10
lbt_I'd class that as learning, not really packaging history22:10
thphehe ;) true - so how do i do that?22:10
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thpis there some magic osc command or will i have to remove it from the obs and re-add the files?22:11
lbt_copy the git-pkg files somewhere safe and follow your instructions on the wiki22:11
lbt_oh, I only mean git22:11
lbt_osc is not important22:11
thpah ok22:11
thpso revision 2 becomes revision 1 etc22:11
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thpis the changes file format okay like that? https://github.com/thp/mer-tools-zsh/blob/pkg-mer-5.0.2-1/zsh.changes or does it have to have the RPM revision in the version?22:20
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thpcleaned up version pushed to git and obs22:27
vgradethp: thanks for the wiki page updates22:32
vgradethp: nice article on harmatten to sailfish22:32
lbt_thp: changes file is OK - in future I plan to take Version: and Release: from .changes22:35
lbt_anyhow... bed22:35
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