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| dm8tbr | lbt: merbot needs op in the meeting channel | 08:54 |
| dm8tbr | I guess we should give it a nickserv account and add it to aop | 08:54 |
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| lbt | dm8tbr: make it so | 09:06 |
| dm8tbr | will do | 09:11 |
| dm8tbr | I guess I'll need to replace my ssh key for mer infra though. I'm pretty sure I forgot the password and I didn't write it down obviously. | 09:12 |
| slaine_ | morning folks | 09:13 |
| vgrade_ | morn slaine_ | 09:18 |
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| pq | Stskeeps, hi, I'm here now | 09:47 |
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| Stskeeps | pq, nm, found answer :) | 10:58 |
| pq | cool :-D | 10:58 |
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| slaine_ | lbt: it's been a while since I looked a staging an internal OBS for mer project work | 13:43 |
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| slaine_ | Have things changed much since we last worked on it ? | 13:43 |
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| Stskeeps | same old | 13:57 |
| Stskeeps | we have a quicker MDS however | 13:57 |
| iekku | slaine_, o/ | 14:01 |
| slaine_ | Stskeeps: good to know | 14:01 |
| slaine_ | those servers I had been using are free'd up now to get back to this | 14:01 |
| slaine_ | Hey iekku | 14:01 |
| slaine_ | looks like you had a good time at MWC | 14:02 |
| iekku | busy and nice :) | 14:02 |
| sledges | good day | 14:02 |
| sledges | I wish Mer was here. Hope one day it will: http://eetimes.com/ContentEETimes/Images/news/20130227pcEmbeddedSurvey841.jpg | 14:02 |
| slaine_ | Stskeeps: So opensuse 11.2 etc. etc. | 14:04 |
| Stskeeps | hrm, should be okay on 12.1 now | 14:05 |
| Stskeeps | i think | 14:05 |
| slaine_ | Was going to dust off my guide and update it | 14:05 |
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| rantom | CosmoHill: What's wrong with it? | 18:01 |
| CosmoHill | it doesn't read it's config file and the nv doesn't bvoot it | 18:02 |
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| rantom | Not sure if we're talking about the same thing but I've had success in installing a Linux with UEFI to my Mac | 18:05 |
| CosmoHill | powerpc mac | 18:05 |
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| rantom | Ah | 18:05 |
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| rantom | s/UEFI/rEFIt/ | 18:06 |
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| situ | At first I thought they misspelled Mer https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MirSpec | 18:17 |
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| lpotter-bris | Mer + Mir? | 18:27 |
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| Stskeeps | wow, they just shot themselves massively in the foot | 18:31 |
| CosmoHill | huh? | 18:32 |
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| fk_lx | anyway they have nice diagrams ;-) | 18:43 |
| zuh | And use empowering phrases like "leveraging GBM, DRM and KMS" | 18:45 |
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| zuh | (...in a proven solution, improving time to market and total cost of ownership or whatever) | 18:46 |
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| Morpog_Mobile | Looks like a walled open source ubuntu world they create | 19:03 |
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| ali1234 | where did that pop out from? | 19:12 |
| Stskeeps | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MirSpec ? | 19:12 |
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| ali1234 | yeah | 19:13 |
| Stskeeps | dunno | 19:13 |
| ali1234 | i mean, why no silly countdown? | 19:13 |
| Stskeeps | probably that they couldn't get wayland working | 19:13 |
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| ali1234 | seems like they have one for every tny announcement these days | 19:13 |
| ali1234 | when did this go public? i've been away for the weekend :) | 19:13 |
| Stskeeps | ~hour ago | 19:13 |
| ali1234 | 'k | 19:13 |
| ali1234 | i seriously need to find a new distro | 19:14 |
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| Stskeeps | i'm not really satisified with any of them at the moment.. | 19:17 |
| Stskeeps | maybe i should switch to hawaii | 19:17 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:17 |
| CosmoHill | isn't mir going to be confused with mer at lot? | 19:17 |
| Stskeeps | nah | 19:18 |
| CosmoHill | wait what, wtf | 19:18 |
| CosmoHill | what's wrong with going with wayland | 19:18 |
| ali1234 | it's ubuntu | 19:18 |
| dm8tbr | they always reinvent the wheel | 19:18 |
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| ali1234 | they are slowly stripping out all software they don't control from their stack | 19:18 |
| Stskeeps | just another android.. | 19:19 |
| ali1234 | if you want to contribute to unity you have to sign a contributor agreement that gives them a licence to distribute in any way they like, including without source | 19:19 |
| Nicd- | wow | 19:19 |
| ali1234 | obviouslly they can't do that with software they didn't invent | 19:19 |
| ali1234 | Stskeeps: totally agree about not being satisfied with any of them | 19:20 |
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| CosmoHill | sod ubuntu | 19:20 |
| ali1234 | i've been looking for something better than ubuntu for about 2 years now | 19:20 |
| Stskeeps | did you see the hawaii stuff plfiorini's been working on? | 19:21 |
| ali1234 | nope | 19:21 |
| Stskeeps | sec | 19:21 |
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| Stskeeps | http://www.maui-project.org/ | 19:22 |
| plfiorini | Stskeeps: soon (april 1st probably) i will announce that hawaii will be ported to Mir | 19:23 |
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| Stskeeps | hehe | 19:23 |
| ali1234 | well it looks nice... | 19:23 |
| plfiorini | ali1234: i'm trying to get it working with weston until qtcompositor is stable | 19:24 |
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| ali1234 | so what is that panel? custom? | 19:26 |
| CosmoHill | how many years until ubuntu becomes it's own OS | 19:27 |
| ali1234 | it pretty much is already | 19:28 |
| ali1234 | would the image work on ideapad? | 19:29 |
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| halXI_ | hello | 19:29 |
| Stskeeps | lo halXI_ | 19:29 |
| CosmoHill | hi | 19:29 |
| CosmoHill | wait, I can't greet people | 19:29 |
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| crevetor | plfiorini: is your project based on mer ? | 19:32 |
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| crevetor | forget my question, I thought it was a full distro | 19:35 |
| plfiorini | crevetor: i'm waiting the x86_64 version to fully evaluate mer; pre-alpha 1 uses archlinux although i'm building the system to be used with OSTree from scratch (yocto base, components fetched from git and built from sources as close as possible to upstream) | 19:35 |
| crevetor | ok | 19:36 |
| plfiorini | crevetor: building components from git is much more flexible and allows me to switch to different branches/versions easily | 19:36 |
| plfiorini | crevetor: one option could be to use mer as a base instead of yocto because mer has hardware adapation | 19:37 |
| plfiorini | adaptation* | 19:37 |
| crevetor | yes | 19:38 |
| plfiorini | sounds the best of both worlds | 19:39 |
| Stskeeps | crevetor: btw, how was the fcam stuff going? | 19:39 |
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| crevetor | Stskeeps: haven't touched it in a while, but I was actaully thinking about going back to it soon. | 19:43 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 19:43 |
| Stskeeps | what does it actually need from the camera/kernel api, out of interest? | 19:43 |
| * crevetor should just quit his job and work and things he likes. | 19:43 | |
| crevetor | Stskeeps: as of right now it uses the v4l2 subdev api and so that's what the camera driver should implement | 19:44 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 19:44 |
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| crevetor | but fcam in itself is well abstracted so it wouldn't be that hard to adapt it to something else as long as there's good control over the different hardware parts (lens/flash/sensor) | 19:46 |
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| Stskeeps | :nod: | 19:46 |
| crevetor | the biggest parts to integrate it to mer correctly would be a gstreamer plugin and a more modular build (right now the fcam examples that I build are tied to 1 hardware platform, it would be better to have something generic with loadable modules per platform) | 19:48 |
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| Stskeeps | evening shmerl | 19:57 |
| shmerl | Hi Stskeeps. | 19:58 |
| shmerl | What do you think about Ubuntu's new disruption? | 19:58 |
| Stskeeps | i don't think it's a good choice | 19:59 |
| shmerl | I worry about serious fragmentaion. Same story as Android. Drivers. | 19:59 |
| shmerl | And not only on mibile - it can backfire to desktop. | 19:59 |
| shmerl | Unless they work somehow to ensure that same drivers can be shared. | 20:00 |
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| shmerl | Nvidia had an excuse not to make a Wayland driver - it's not widely used yet. Now with Canonical Nvidia will just shrug and say - forget it. | 20:01 |
| shmerl | Same goes for many others. | 20:01 |
| Stskeeps | yeah.. | 20:01 |
| shmerl | I really don't get what Canonical is doing. Sounds like a diversion to me. | 20:02 |
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| crevetor | it's the apple strategy : use open-source and lock people in | 20:17 |
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| shmerl | crevetor: I never really liked Canonical's approach, but these latest moves are more and more isolationist. | 20:22 |
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| * faenil o/ | 21:03 | |
| Stskeeps | faenil: tried sdk yet? | 21:04 |
| faenil | Stskeeps, nope ... | 21:04 |
| Stskeeps | meh, :P | 21:04 |
| faenil | still few days of suffering | 21:04 |
| faenil | prof said we should be done before weekend | 21:04 |
| faenil | and I hope so too XD | 21:04 |
| faenil | Stskeeps, need a 3d models viewer on Sailfish? :D | 21:05 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 21:05 |
| Stskeeps | dunno, develop what you need to | 21:05 |
| faenil | it's done alreayd, it's my thesis (I did it with the same prof) and I'm bringing it on all Qt platforms xD | 21:05 |
| faenil | and Sailfish can't be a missing point :P | 21:06 |
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| faenil | Stskeeps, how cold is it over there? | 21:10 |
| Stskeeps | in .fi? was -20 c this morning, but much warmer today | 21:10 |
| faenil | holy crap :/ | 21:10 |
| faenil | still have to try that kind of life... | 21:11 |
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| CosmoHill | back* | 23:05 |
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| CosmoHill | discopig, are you related to drift pig? | 23:23 |
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