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| niqt | morning | 08:36 |
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| rcg | morning | 08:37 |
| rcg | who of you guys will be at fosdem? | 08:37 |
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| Stskeeps | <- | 08:41 |
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| rcg | Stskeeps, cool, i assume you will attend both days? | 08:50 |
| rcg | for me some things seem to have changed and i will most likely only make it to brussels saturday evening/night | 08:51 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 08:51 |
| Stskeeps | fri-sat-sun | 08:51 |
| rcg | aye | 08:55 |
| rcg | do you plan to go to some pub or late dinner or so? | 08:56 |
| Stskeeps | probably, but, sec | 08:56 |
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| mikhas | Stskeeps, I'll buy you a free beer on Friday. | 09:07 |
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| SouL_ | Hey guys | 09:08 |
| SouL_ | Do you know if I can install Mer on this tablet? http://www.pccomponentes.com/denver_tad_10021_4gb_10_1_.html?utm_source=boletin-2013-01-29&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=boletinsemanal&utm_content=53252 | 09:08 |
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| SouL_ | Hey guys, do you know If I can install Mer on this tablet? http://www.pccomponentes.com/denver_tad_10021_4gb_10_1_.html?utm_source=boletin-2013-01-29&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=boletinsemanal&utm_content=53252 | 09:21 |
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| kulve | SouL_: what soc does it have? Is there a Mer HW adaptation layer for that soc? | 09:29 |
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| SouL_ | I'm searching more information, kulve, hang on please. | 09:33 |
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| SouL_ | Do you know a list of tablets that I can unistall android and install mer? | 09:42 |
| Sage | Nexus 7 | 09:45 |
| SouL_ | More? | 09:45 |
| SouL_ | xD | 09:45 |
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| mikhas | Two Nexus7? | 09:58 |
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| SouL_ | haha | 09:58 |
| SouL_ | Nothing from google please | 09:58 |
| mikhas | No really, go with the Nexus7, lots of people currently trying to do the same as you do. | 09:59 |
| mikhas | I just installed Ubuntu yesterday on my Nexus7, it was dead simple. | 09:59 |
| mikhas | No Google involvement other than unlocking the boot loader. | 09:59 |
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| CosmoHill | morning | 10:00 |
| SouL_ | Thanks mikhas | 10:02 |
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| alterego | mikhas: I haven't tried ubuntu on it, though did use their installation how to in order to unlock the bootloader, and reinstate android | 10:05 |
| alterego | How well does ubuntu work on it? | 10:06 |
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| kulve | at least the UI is not suitable for smaller touchscreens | 10:10 |
| mikhas | alterego, works better than expected | 10:10 |
| mikhas | some graphical glitches but pretty stable an OK performance | 10:11 |
| mikhas | someone must have spend a lot of time improving Onboard for instance | 10:11 |
| mikhas | The Unity parts actually work with that kind of resolution. | 10:12 |
| alterego | Cool | 10:12 |
| mikhas | It's the applications and sadly, GTK+, that spill the beans | 10:12 |
| alterego | yeah | 10:12 |
| alterego | The hardware is really nice and sleek. It's a shame I don't really like any of the tablet OS' out there :/ | 10:12 |
| mikhas | which is were PlasmaActive has a distinct advantage, and Nemo Mobile of course | 10:13 |
| alterego | They all seem either lame (Android, iOS) or clunky. | 10:13 |
| sledges | good morthing | 10:13 |
| alterego | I just find PA a bit annoying, the buttons are too small, and it doesn't perform particularly great. | 10:13 |
| alterego | I want something more minimalist. I've got some ideas for a tablet UX, but finding the time nowadays is somewhat difficult :) | 10:14 |
| Bostik | the reward for a job well done is more jobs :) | 10:16 |
| alterego | hheh | 10:16 |
| sledges | alterego, tried Seadot ? | 10:17 |
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| kulve | does that need something special or could I just add couple of packages to my .ks and try it out on n7? | 10:19 |
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| sledges | kulve, see no reason why not. Though only as soon as you are able to obtain that .ks ;) | 10:25 |
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| sledges | ok, found finally, kulve: http://gitorious.org/seadot/build-tools/trees/master | 10:28 |
| sledges | doesn't look straight-forward ;) | 10:28 |
| sledges | as repo's in .ks point to --baseurl=http://192.168.0.102/repo/... | 10:31 |
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| kulve | ah, now I remember. I actually tried that out and noticed that only when mic complained about the IP.. | 10:42 |
| davidqi | Stskeeps: I ever asked how to add "ifconfig" in my mer image, but seems lost it now, can you tell how to make it included in my mer rootfs? | 10:43 |
| davidqi | it seems to add sth in the .ks file | 10:43 |
| Stskeeps | net-tools in %packages | 10:44 |
| Stskeeps | i think | 10:44 |
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| davidqi | yes, how is it exactly like? | 10:45 |
| davidqi | @packages | 10:45 |
| davidqi | net-tools | 10:45 |
| davidqi | ? | 10:45 |
| sledges | kulve, I think the build-script creates the whole sdk/chroot in-place (wow), and spawns it on 192.168.42.42 (some fiddling thereafter might give fruits, as I think it builds all locally, looking at http://www.wetab-community.com/index.php?/topic/19405-seadot-usb-image-auf-linux-selber-bauen/?p=300281 ) | 10:46 |
| Stskeeps | davidqi: yes | 10:46 |
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| davidqi | does the latest mer come out yesterday? | 10:47 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 10:49 |
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| davidqi | great, with wayland support? | 10:51 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 10:52 |
| davidqi | does this mean, my current creating mer image will have the wayland support by default? | 10:53 |
| Stskeeps | you probably need to enable it | 10:54 |
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| SouL_ | brb | 11:00 |
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| sledges | horror story OBS: lesson learned: never revert any revisions of your home: project package to itself forgetting to uncheck "delete package after SR is accepted" | 12:30 |
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| rcg | sledges, yay :/ | 12:37 |
| sledges | I got backups luckily :) and this made me transition to BMO OBS for pandaboard HA ;) | 12:37 |
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| vgrade | kulve: sledges I did the work on getting seadot onto OBS, https://build.pub.meego.com/project/monitor?project=home%3Avgrade%3Atest | 12:38 |
| vgrade | kulve: sledges just not had time to test further | 12:38 |
| kulve | vgrade: nice | 12:39 |
| kulve | Maybe I'll give it a shot at some point | 12:39 |
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| kulve | vgrade: do you know how to launch that thing? | 12:39 |
| kulve | Just run some desktop-binary or something more complicated? | 12:40 |
| vgrade | kulve: I have a g9 ks in production | 12:40 |
| vgrade | desktop bin as I remember. I booted on ExoPc when it was announced and wanted to try on ARM | 12:40 |
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| sledges | lbt, http://repo.merproject.org/obs/nemo:/devel:/hw:/pandaboard/latest_armv7hl/ != http://repo.merproject.org/obs/nemo:/devel:/hw:/pandaboard/latest_armv7hl (notice the slash missing, the latter has gets wrong redirect, breaking OBS links such as Go to Download Repository https://build.merproject.org/package/binaries?package=kernel-adaptation-pandaboard&project=nemo%3Adevel%3Ahw%3Apandaboard&repository=latest_armv7hl ) | 12:43 |
| vgrade | kulve: http://gitorious.org/seadot/build-tools/blobs/master/system/seadot.ks | 12:43 |
| sledges | nice work vgrade \o/ | 12:44 |
| kulve | # fix race condition causing X to fail the first time | 12:44 |
| vgrade | kulve: but it also imports these to do post seup, http://gitorious.org/seadot/build-tools/trees/master/system/post-install.d | 12:44 |
| kulve | I wonder if that's happening occasionally on my n7.. | 12:44 |
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| sledges | happens on pandaboard, but Xorg just spits Out-of-memory panic all over the place. Can launch second time though. hope this's related | 12:45 |
| vgrade | kulve: http://gitorious.org/seadot/build-tools/blobs/master/system/post-install.d/90-ux.sh sets up the session | 12:45 |
| kulve | ok | 12:45 |
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| sledges | lbt, no worries, bug submitted https://bugs.merproject.org/post_bug.cgi | 13:05 |
| sledges | https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=670 | 13:06 |
| Merbot | Mer bug 670 in IT / Other "repo.merproject.org has wrong redirect with trailing forward slash" [Normal,New] | 13:06 |
| sledges | :) | 13:06 |
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| lbt | sledges: ty | 13:09 |
| sledges | lbt, where can I see the build log and progress? currently it's just whirrling around: https://build.merproject.org/package/show?package=kernel-adaptation-pandaboard&project=home%3Asledge%3Abranches%3Anemo%3Adevel%3Ahw%3Apandaboard# | 13:09 |
| lbt | sorry, busy :( | 13:10 |
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| sledges | ok, another bug then :) I'll get around with URI fiddling for now | 13:10 |
| kulve | sledges: packages -> monitor | 13:11 |
| sledges | or that way ;D | 13:11 |
| sledges | thanks kulve ! | 13:11 |
| kulve | sledges: I've complaining about the same I was pointed to that :) | 13:11 |
| kulve | +been | 13:11 |
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| sledges | is there a bug? if it isn't time to put one :) wonder where should it be logged though? | 13:13 |
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| sledges | Mer Infra/Mer OBS vs Mer Integration Tools (MINT)/OBS | 13:13 |
| sledges | "the confusion sets in".. :) | 13:14 |
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| lbt | infra is our systems on our VMs | 13:16 |
| lbt | MINT is the software which you may download and install on your VMs | 13:16 |
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| sledges | and which does OBS on build.merproject.org belong to ? | 13:16 |
| sledges | the infra bit I believe now | 13:17 |
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| lbt | sledges: yes | 14:01 |
| sledges | ok, https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=671 | 14:01 |
| Merbot | Mer bug 671 in Mer OBS ""Build Results" is broken" [Normal,New] | 14:02 |
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| sledges | how to stop `specify` to overwrite this line all the time "%setup -q -n %{name}-%{version}" ? I have upstream's root dir name in the tarball.. | 15:26 |
| Stskeeps | SetupOptions: ? | 15:27 |
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| [ol] | Stskeeps: You mentioned yesterday that it's possible to build Plasma Active for x86_64 using MeeGo OBS, but it has to be done properly. Could you please provide more details about that? | 15:44 |
| sledges | Stskeeps, thanks a bunch! Worked like charm :) | 15:44 |
| Stskeeps | [ol]: meaning i'd like to merge this into mer when i can, then it becomes part of a preview release of mer, just been really snowed under at work | 15:45 |
| Stskeeps | [ol]: i'll take a look at it in 15 minutes | 15:45 |
| [ol] | OK, good. I'll be here. | 15:45 |
| Stskeeps | i can't upgrade kernel-headers to 3.7 at this point, but things should work without that, from what i can tell | 15:46 |
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| Artox | what exactly does "--copy-kernel" in a yaml file at Mic2Options do? | 15:55 |
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| [ol] | Stskeeps: Several packages will break with older kernel-headers. | 16:01 |
| [ol] | Stskeeps: I don't see reasons why new kernel-headers will break anything for older kernels. | 16:02 |
| [ol] | Kernel interfaces are kept compatible between releases. The only problem is that some old interfaces (like v4l) are gone, but this is already handled in packages updated for new kernel-headers. | 16:03 |
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| Stskeeps | [ol]: well, there are software that relies on that if kernel headers are > something, then use this function, which doesn't exist on that kernel.. | 16:08 |
| [ol] | I've seen only few changes in kernel-headers affecting package build: v4l and ipq are gone (gst-plugins-base and iptables were updated), and some obscure network families were gone also (and net-tools updated). | 16:08 |
| [ol] | Stskeeps: What kind of software? | 16:09 |
| Stskeeps | well, it might entirely be that i'm wrong, but the idea is the userland has to run on a 2.6.32 and above | 16:09 |
| Stskeeps | so we can't have anything assuming it's on a 3.7 | 16:10 |
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| [ol] | Software won't assume it. There is nothing in kernel-headers-3.7 telling software that it's expected to run on 3.7. | 16:12 |
| [ol] | If there's a new interface in kernel available, software is expected to fall back gracefully if this interface is not available. | 16:13 |
| Stskeeps | okay, i'll choose to believe you, but verify with QA ;) | 16:13 |
| [ol] | Of course, it needs testing. | 16:13 |
| [ol] | There always can be buggy software. | 16:14 |
| Stskeeps | could you fix http://review.merproject.org/#change,1110 meanwhile i'm fixing something? | 16:16 |
| [ol] | Stskeeps: Where can I find error messages for this change? | 16:18 |
| Stskeeps | it's just that you need to run precheckin.sh as well | 16:19 |
| [ol] | Stskeeps: Ah, OK, found your comment. | 16:19 |
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| [ol] | Stskeeps: OK, amended commit has been pushed. | 16:21 |
| Stskeeps | thanks | 16:21 |
| * Stskeeps merges | 16:23 | |
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| Stskeeps | [ol]: i'll merge this into all the architectures now, then i'll add the x86_64 port | 16:29 |
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| [ol] | OK, good. | 16:29 |
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| sledges | OBS related: upstream used to have tarball with binary blobs + src for building kernel module. Now upstream split that into two packages. Shall | 16:34 |
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| sledges | I create new package and split current .yaml .spec logic, or can a package handle two tarballs, untar them into the same dir and treat as before ? | 16:34 |
| [ol] | I know very few about OBS, but I know rpmbuild, and it allows to do it both ways. | 16:39 |
| sledges | thanks [ol]. The only thing I don't like is that upstream tarballs might have different root dir naming structure | 16:42 |
| [ol] | That can be handled by different options of %setup macro. | 16:43 |
| sledges | yup, renaming around.. will have to delve into!.. :) | 16:43 |
| sledges | (no idea how by now, will figure out soon) | 16:43 |
| [ol] | Do you really need to have contents of both tarballs in the same directory? Can they live side-by-side as subdirectories in a common directory? | 16:44 |
| sledges | maybe they could.. | 16:44 |
| * sledges has no idea what is happening inside OBS worker vm 8) | 16:44 | |
| [ol] | I presume that rpmbuild is invoked inside. | 16:45 |
| deztructor_ | Stskeeps: who can create qtscriptbindings in mer gerrit? | 16:45 |
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| Stskeeps | deztructor_: build it for all archs on cobs first | 16:45 |
| [ol] | And there are lots of packages already which have several Source directives. This case should be not much different. | 16:46 |
| Stskeeps | [ol]: ok, other architectures are set to rebuild, let's see how much blows up.. | 16:47 |
| sledges | [ol], could you drop me a link to an instance of multiple tarballs? Hard to find myself (thus far came across multiple source directives but only one tarball (other Source1 pointed to e.g. kernel.config)) | 16:48 |
| [ol] | sledges: There is no difference whether you have a tarball or something else as Source. You can just "tar xf OURCE0" or something inside %prep section. And %setup is just a convenience macro to extract source archive. | 16:50 |
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| [ol] | Uh oh, Konversation treated "%" sign in my last message as some markup... | 16:52 |
| vgrade | sledges: sledges https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=qtplatformplugin-rpi.spec&package=qtplatformplugin-rpi&project=CE%3AAdaptation%3ARaspberryPi&rev=502929cd70addd36ffe4df697c1fe453 | 16:53 |
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| sledges | wonders, thanks fellows! | 17:08 |
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| deztructor_ | Stskeeps: it was, now one arch is marked as failed but i think this is some obs issue, it was ok (it says 'getbinaries: missing packages: libqtdbus4') | 17:31 |
| deztructor_ | before it was ok | 17:31 |
| deztructor_ | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=qtscriptgenerator&project=home%3Azalevski%3Abranches%3AMer%3AMDS%3ACore%3Ai586 | 17:32 |
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| deztructor_ | i will commit new release today but it does not matter because it just adds feature | 17:32 |
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| sledges | how to specify multiple SetupOptions in .yaml? | 18:18 |
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| sledges | I need two lines of %setup | 18:19 |
| sledges | ( vgrade, your example did not contain .yaml ;P ) | 18:20 |
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| shmerl | Hi. Is Mer SDK currently oriented for x86 hosts only? Someone had an idea to use it on the ARM host itself but as chroot as well. | 19:18 |
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| shmerl | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=88868 | 19:19 |
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