Sunday, 2013-01-27

[ol]lbt: Congratulations! Welcome to the future!00:06
CosmoHillnight night00:07
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Stskeepsmorn07:12
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Stskeeps[ol]: some stuff to fix but otherwise looks good07:14
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situMorning07:32
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iekkumorning08:33
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Stskeepshttp://0pointer.de/blog/projects/the-biggest-myths.html09:23
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BostikStskeeps: nice read, but I would have liked to see #31 in there too - the growing interconnection between systemd and udev which has been raised at least on debian list and lkml (those are the ones I've come across)11:11
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Bostikthat should have been "debian listS", in fact11:12
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situI never knew there were so many myths around Systemd.11:38
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[ol]Stskeeps: OK, so at least 2 of my fixes were wrong. Of course, I can add another fix to fix a wrong fix, but it looks ugly. Is there a way to revert change to a package in OBS? Or will "obs rdelete" followed by "obs linkpac" do the trick?12:40
Stskeepsjust add another fix, that's fine with me12:40
Stskeepsthis is just for bootstrapping12:41
[ol]Why not just rdelete/linkpac? It should be easier.12:41
Stskeepsthat's also ok, but in bootstrapping scenarios you don't want to wipe the binaries unless needed12:42
[ol]Why so?12:42
Stskeepssometimes causes unneeded rebuilds, but anyway, just commit to existing package12:43
[ol]These packages build has failed anyway, so dependencies must be rebuilt.12:43
Stskeepsit'll do that automatically, just add on to the package :)12:43
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[ol]OK, I have to go now. I'm going to commit fixes tomorrow.12:45
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Stskeepsk12:46
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vgradew00t: re bug 21, do you have a link the patch to 4.8.4 which removes the timestamps for moc/rcc?19:10
MerbotMer bug 21 in qt-mobility "qt-mobility has timestamps in debugsource" [Task,Resolved: fixed] https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2119:10
vgradew00t: all I can find is https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file?file=no-moc-date.diff&package=libqt4-devel-doc&project=home%3Azhy20120210%3ASLES-11-SP1-x86-64&rev=ed7a248b982e5165a82c93a63045a2ca19:11
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jake9xxgreat, my ISP booted by box so lost all windows in irssi :/19:22
kulvethat's why you can save 'em19:25
vgradew00t: found bug 15419:25
MerbotMer bug 154 in .Other "Evaluate zif vs zypp" [Task,New] https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15419:25
vgradew00t: found bug 184, sorry19:25
MerbotMer bug 184 in qt "moc does timestamps in sources" [Trivial,Assigned] https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18419:25
vgradew00t: added comment there19:26
vgradew00t: for rcc as well as moc19:26
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Stskeepsvgrade: btw, fosdem?19:47
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vgradeStskeeps: can't afford it this time :(19:58
Stskeeps:nod:19:58
vgradeStskeeps: be there in spirit19:59
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vgradeStskeeps: jeremiah will be there representing the company20:07
Stskeepsyeah..20:07
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shmerlIs there any policy in Mer how to add copyright notice for the package? I took a look how COPYING is placed in various packages in Debian, Fedora and Arch - and there doesn't seem to be uniform pattern. Most put it in /usr/share/doc, some have special location, some rename it to "copyright" some leave as is.21:37
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shmerlStskeeps: Is it documented somewhere in the Wiki what packages you had to hold on older version because of GPLv2 restriction for vendors?21:47
Stskeepsi think architecture says it21:47
Stskeepsand it's a short set really21:47
Stskeepsbash, readline, coreutils21:47
shmerlI though that may be Mer can use two sets, one restricted and one up to date, with meta package for choosing either one.21:48
shmerlSo if vendor care - they install the restricted one, and if not - they can use the up to date one.21:48
shmerlSince not every vendor really is worrying about anti Tivoization clause.21:48
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Stskeepsi'd like to move to busybox for devices eventually21:49
Stskeepsand seperate core and toolchain21:49
shmerlThe only question is, if something breaks compatibility.21:49
shmerlYou mean to propose busybox for vendors, which will avoid using older coreutils and etc.?21:50
shmerlOlder bash is really unpleasant, since it's lacking new features.21:51
Stskeepsbusybox in general, you can always install bash if you want to have it :P21:52
JonniStskeeps: btw wget seems to be too new version in repoes, since wget --version says GPLv3...21:52
StskeepsJonni: wget rarely goes on device, also, it's in Mer:Tools21:52
Stskeepsthe rule isn't "no gplv3 ever", just "no gplv3 required for a functioning device" :P21:52
shmerlRight. That would be good, since you won't need to maintain two sets of coreutils and etc.21:52
Jonnijust remembered that harmattan had ancient version of wget because of that limitation :)21:53
shmerlwget was not even in Mer? Last time I had to use curl21:53
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CosmoHillnight night23:55
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