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| Stskeeps | morn | 07:12 |
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| Stskeeps | [ol]: some stuff to fix but otherwise looks good | 07:14 |
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| situ | Morning | 07:32 |
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| iekku | morning | 08:33 |
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| Stskeeps | http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/the-biggest-myths.html | 09:23 |
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| Bostik | Stskeeps: nice read, but I would have liked to see #31 in there too - the growing interconnection between systemd and udev which has been raised at least on debian list and lkml (those are the ones I've come across) | 11:11 |
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| Bostik | that should have been "debian listS", in fact | 11:12 |
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| situ | I never knew there were so many myths around Systemd. | 11:38 |
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| [ol] | Stskeeps: OK, so at least 2 of my fixes were wrong. Of course, I can add another fix to fix a wrong fix, but it looks ugly. Is there a way to revert change to a package in OBS? Or will "obs rdelete" followed by "obs linkpac" do the trick? | 12:40 |
| Stskeeps | just add another fix, that's fine with me | 12:40 |
| Stskeeps | this is just for bootstrapping | 12:41 |
| [ol] | Why not just rdelete/linkpac? It should be easier. | 12:41 |
| Stskeeps | that's also ok, but in bootstrapping scenarios you don't want to wipe the binaries unless needed | 12:42 |
| [ol] | Why so? | 12:42 |
| Stskeeps | sometimes causes unneeded rebuilds, but anyway, just commit to existing package | 12:43 |
| [ol] | These packages build has failed anyway, so dependencies must be rebuilt. | 12:43 |
| Stskeeps | it'll do that automatically, just add on to the package :) | 12:43 |
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| [ol] | OK, I have to go now. I'm going to commit fixes tomorrow. | 12:45 |
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| vgrade | w00t: re bug 21, do you have a link the patch to 4.8.4 which removes the timestamps for moc/rcc? | 19:10 |
| Merbot | Mer bug 21 in qt-mobility "qt-mobility has timestamps in debugsource" [Task,Resolved: fixed] https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21 | 19:10 |
| vgrade | w00t: all I can find is https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file?file=no-moc-date.diff&package=libqt4-devel-doc&project=home%3Azhy20120210%3ASLES-11-SP1-x86-64&rev=ed7a248b982e5165a82c93a63045a2ca | 19:11 |
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| jake9xx | great, my ISP booted by box so lost all windows in irssi :/ | 19:22 |
| kulve | that's why you can save 'em | 19:25 |
| vgrade | w00t: found bug 154 | 19:25 |
| Merbot | Mer bug 154 in .Other "Evaluate zif vs zypp" [Task,New] https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154 | 19:25 |
| vgrade | w00t: found bug 184, sorry | 19:25 |
| Merbot | Mer bug 184 in qt "moc does timestamps in sources" [Trivial,Assigned] https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=184 | 19:25 |
| vgrade | w00t: added comment there | 19:26 |
| vgrade | w00t: for rcc as well as moc | 19:26 |
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| Stskeeps | vgrade: btw, fosdem? | 19:47 |
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| vgrade | Stskeeps: can't afford it this time :( | 19:58 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 19:58 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps: be there in spirit | 19:59 |
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| vgrade | Stskeeps: jeremiah will be there representing the company | 20:07 |
| Stskeeps | yeah.. | 20:07 |
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| shmerl | Is there any policy in Mer how to add copyright notice for the package? I took a look how COPYING is placed in various packages in Debian, Fedora and Arch - and there doesn't seem to be uniform pattern. Most put it in /usr/share/doc, some have special location, some rename it to "copyright" some leave as is. | 21:37 |
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| shmerl | Stskeeps: Is it documented somewhere in the Wiki what packages you had to hold on older version because of GPLv2 restriction for vendors? | 21:47 |
| Stskeeps | i think architecture says it | 21:47 |
| Stskeeps | and it's a short set really | 21:47 |
| Stskeeps | bash, readline, coreutils | 21:47 |
| shmerl | I though that may be Mer can use two sets, one restricted and one up to date, with meta package for choosing either one. | 21:48 |
| shmerl | So if vendor care - they install the restricted one, and if not - they can use the up to date one. | 21:48 |
| shmerl | Since not every vendor really is worrying about anti Tivoization clause. | 21:48 |
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| Stskeeps | i'd like to move to busybox for devices eventually | 21:49 |
| Stskeeps | and seperate core and toolchain | 21:49 |
| shmerl | The only question is, if something breaks compatibility. | 21:49 |
| shmerl | You mean to propose busybox for vendors, which will avoid using older coreutils and etc.? | 21:50 |
| shmerl | Older bash is really unpleasant, since it's lacking new features. | 21:51 |
| Stskeeps | busybox in general, you can always install bash if you want to have it :P | 21:52 |
| Jonni | Stskeeps: btw wget seems to be too new version in repoes, since wget --version says GPLv3... | 21:52 |
| Stskeeps | Jonni: wget rarely goes on device, also, it's in Mer:Tools | 21:52 |
| Stskeeps | the rule isn't "no gplv3 ever", just "no gplv3 required for a functioning device" :P | 21:52 |
| shmerl | Right. That would be good, since you won't need to maintain two sets of coreutils and etc. | 21:52 |
| Jonni | just remembered that harmattan had ancient version of wget because of that limitation :) | 21:53 |
| shmerl | wget was not even in Mer? Last time I had to use curl | 21:53 |
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