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| davidqi | morning all | 04:24 |
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| kysse | morning ( I slept about 1h ) | 04:41 |
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| situ | Morning everyone | 04:51 |
| chriadam | gmorning | 04:56 |
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| Stskeeps | morn everybody | 05:31 |
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| zengweitotty | Stskeeps: hi | 05:33 |
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| zengweitotty | Stskeeps: last time,I talk with about ofono | 05:33 |
| zengweitotty | this time my modem can communicate with my S3C6410 board with AT commands. | 05:34 |
| zengweitotty | but when I use ofono to list-modems, it can not list my modem | 05:35 |
| Stskeeps | mm, i'm not really an ofono expert | 05:36 |
| zengweitotty | Stskeeps: could you give me some advice about this problem/ | 05:38 |
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| wmarone_ | nvidia gone off the deep end | 05:39 |
| wmarone_ | SDR modem to go with Tegra 4 and an Android-based portable game console | 05:39 |
| Stskeeps | wmarone_: sounds like they're understanding the role of devices in the future | 05:40 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 05:40 |
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| wmarone_ | oh the SDR modem is impressive | 05:40 |
| wmarone_ | but the console... | 05:40 |
| Stskeeps | isn't that just the ouya kickstarter thing? | 05:40 |
| wmarone_ | no, that's a Tegra 3 based micro set-top | 05:41 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 05:41 |
| wmarone_ | this thing was announced minutes ago | 05:41 |
| Stskeeps | URL? | 05:41 |
| Stskeeps | and is it another pandora? | 05:42 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 05:42 |
| wmarone_ | http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/7/3845282/nvidia-announces-project-shield-handheld-gaming-system | 05:42 |
| Stskeeps | zengweitotty: holtmann in #ofono is right, you may need to have a multiplexer driver in your kernel | 05:42 |
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| Stskeeps | zengweitotty: http://publications.theseus.fi/bitstream/handle/10024/26317/vaattovaara_teemu.pdf?sequence=1 | 05:46 |
| zengweitotty | Stskeeps: Ok,thank you | 05:47 |
| Stskeeps | http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/serial/n_gsm.txt maybe | 05:47 |
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| zengweitotty | Stskeeps: my modem has no AT command "AT+CMUX" | 06:43 |
| Stskeeps | AT+CMUX=1 or =0 wasn't it? | 06:44 |
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| zengweitotty | I write AT+CMUX=0 it returns ERROR | 06:47 |
| zengweitotty | i write AT+CMUX=1,it returns AT-COMMAND Interpreter ready | 06:48 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 06:48 |
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| zengweitotty | Stskeeps: Does it means I can not use ofono to use this modem? | 06:52 |
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| Stskeeps | zengweitotty: well, 1 and 2 are only valid options | 06:53 |
| zengweitotty | Sorry, I do not understand what 1 and 2? | 06:54 |
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| Bostik | brrrr, -8°C | 07:02 |
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| zengweitotty | Stskeeps: Could you teach me what should I do next, thank you for your help | 07:05 |
| Stskeeps | zengweitotty: i'm a little unsure, sorry | 07:06 |
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| * lbt dreamed about rpm, zypper and sb2 | 07:19 | |
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| Stskeeps | nightmares? | 07:19 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 07:19 |
| chriadam | it doesn't sound relaxing, that's for sure ;-) | 07:20 |
| lbt | I realise zypper depends on libsolv-tools | 07:20 |
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| lbt | which means the lua mapping is probably missing some utils | 07:20 |
| timoph | lbt: sounds like you need a bottle kossu | 07:21 |
| lbt | and the reasons I didn't like emulated zypper don't really make sense in a build target (vs emulator) | 07:21 |
| lbt | timoph: hmm - I'm game to try it | 07:22 |
| timoph | :) | 07:22 |
| timoph | next time you're in .fi | 07:22 |
| timoph | I'll get you one | 07:22 |
| lbt | I'm here | 07:22 |
| lbt | \o/ | 07:22 |
| timoph | hel or tre? | 07:22 |
| lbt | Hel | 07:22 |
| timoph | damn. | 07:23 |
| lbt | :) | 07:23 |
| timoph | hmmh. me and my big mouth | 07:23 |
| lbt | we need a Mer sauna event | 07:23 |
| timoph | we do | 07:23 |
| lbt | OK, I should go to office now .... bbiab | 07:24 |
| timoph | o/ | 07:24 |
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| davidqi | Stskeeps: is qt5-qmake installed in mer rootfs? | 07:37 |
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| Stskeeps | not by default | 07:41 |
| davidqi | Stskeeps: even in Mer SDK, the qt5-qmake is not installed by default, right? | 07:41 |
| Stskeeps | correct, you need to install it manually | 07:42 |
| davidqi | sudo zypper in qt5-qmake | 07:42 |
| davidqi | qt5-qmake -v | 07:42 |
| davidqi | bash: qt5-qmake: command not found | 07:42 |
| davidqi | did you meet this error before? | 07:43 |
| Stskeeps | it's called qmake | 07:43 |
| davidqi | ok, | 07:43 |
| Stskeeps | when installed | 07:44 |
| Stskeeps | rpm -ql qt5-qmake | 07:44 |
| davidqi | how if I want to use qt5-qmake | 07:44 |
| davidqi | o | 07:44 |
| davidqi | 'qmake' not found in package names. | 07:45 |
| davidqi | sudo zypper in qmake | 07:45 |
| davidqi | Loading repository data... | 07:45 |
| davidqi | Reading installed packages... | 07:45 |
| davidqi | 'qmake' not found in package names. Trying capabilities. | 07:45 |
| davidqi | No provider of 'qmake' found. | 07:45 |
| davidqi | Resolving package dependencies... | 07:45 |
| davidqi | Nothing to do. | 07:45 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 07:46 |
| Stskeeps | the command is called qmake | 07:46 |
| Stskeeps | the package is called qt5-qmake | 07:46 |
| davidqi | yes? | 07:47 |
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| situ | I think it's in qt-tools in Qt5 ? | 07:47 |
| Stskeeps | no | 07:47 |
| Stskeeps | so you install qt5-qmake package with zypper | 07:47 |
| Stskeeps | and then run it with 'qmake' | 07:47 |
| davidqi | yes | 07:47 |
| davidqi | $ qmake -v | 07:47 |
| davidqi | QMake version 2.01a | 07:47 |
| davidqi | Using Qt version 5.0.0 in /usr/lib | 07:47 |
| Stskeeps | right | 07:48 |
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| davidqi | so? how could I use qt5-qmake? | 07:48 |
| Stskeeps | go read qt documentation :) | 07:48 |
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| davidqi | :P | 07:49 |
| Stskeeps | that's an external component, you use it like you'd develop with qt5 | 07:49 |
| davidqi | yes | 07:49 |
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| niqt | morning | 08:06 |
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| Stskeeps | zengweitotty: just a hint of advice, you're asking the wrong questions in #ofono - rejoining the channel and re-stating your question doesn't help | 08:19 |
| Stskeeps | zengweitotty: i can recommend reading http://catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html | 08:19 |
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| jukkaeklund | stskeesp, sage, any news on updating webkit? | 09:14 |
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| Bostik | ick, sounds uncomfortable | 09:21 |
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| pcat | hmm.. it seems that zypper is a bit crazy about numbers, look at download size here http://sprunge.us/dXXD :) | 09:33 |
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| * lbt updates mer-core in SDK and it pulls in wayland.... <-- Stskeeps | 09:37 | |
| Stskeeps | yes, wayland's jsust a lib | 09:37 |
| Stskeeps | don't worry about it | 09:38 |
| lbt | would it be sensible to be called libwayland then? | 09:38 |
| lbt | principle of least-surprise | 09:39 |
| Stskeeps | we call it what the upstream does | 09:39 |
| Stskeeps | there's no such thing as libaugeas project, or Wlibwebkit | 09:40 |
| Stskeeps | and this is mesa pulling it in | 09:40 |
| Stskeeps | ie, optional for devices | 09:41 |
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| lbt | OK - I've not looked at the packaging - libqt* from the qt src is what I was thinking | 09:43 |
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| slaine | Morning folks | 10:00 |
| slaine | Happy New year, back at work today after a nice break | 10:01 |
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| sledges | w/b slaine, HNY! | 10:04 |
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| slaine | cheers sledges, same to you | 10:04 |
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| sledges | how's your taek-won-do? :) | 10:07 |
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| auri__ | veskuh: ping | 10:23 |
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| auri__ | veskuh: https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=650 .. is this bug still valid? | 10:23 |
| Merbot | Mer bug 650 in QtCreator Mer Plugin "compiler dropped from Kit if VM is not available" [Normal,New] | 10:23 |
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| veskuh | auri__, hi | 10:38 |
| veskuh | auri__, I'll check | 10:38 |
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| lbt | auri__: happy new year :) | 10:46 |
| auri__ | lbt: thanks.. wish you the same | 10:46 |
| lbt | I'd hoped to get onto SDK last week but screwed up my back | 10:47 |
| lbt | getting better now and back on it | 10:48 |
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| lbt | just going through some docs on making the other SDK components from scratch | 10:48 |
| lbt | and releasing a new platform SDK base RSN I hope too | 10:48 |
| auri__ | ok. apostle had problems connecting to SDK via ssh after updating ubuntu .. | 10:49 |
| auri__ | \s\apostle\aportalw | 10:49 |
| auri__ | \s\apostle\aportale | 10:49 |
| lbt | :) | 10:49 |
| auri__ | I hate auto corrections | 10:50 |
| auri__ | he also faced a strange problem where sb2 qmake was not working | 10:50 |
| lbt | OK - I guess we should start bugs for these if they persist | 10:52 |
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| yunta | lbt: phaeron: Info: Loading dm_snapshot... | 12:41 |
| yunta | Error <creator>: Failed to find group 'Mer-OBS-development' : No Group named Mer-OBS-development exists | 12:41 |
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| lbt | yunta: aha - it lies to you | 12:47 |
| lbt | what it should say is "No Group named Mer-OBS-development exists apart from on lbt's machine" | 12:48 |
| lbt | but, tbh, I thought I'd pushed that to rolling repo | 12:48 |
| lbt | or... | 12:49 |
| lbt | maybe I did and you're using an old ks | 12:50 |
| lbt | and Mer-OBS-development is now called Mer-packaging... yes, that's it ... | 12:50 |
| yunta | hm | 12:51 |
| kjokinie | what is currently the "right" guide to setup sb2 targets for mer SDK? | 12:51 |
| kjokinie | lbt? any guidance ^^ | 12:51 |
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| yunta | lbt: can I get your latest buildable sdk vm ks ? just in case there is more gotchas | 12:53 |
| lbt | kjokinie: what do you mean by setup? | 12:53 |
| lbt | make a new one ? | 12:53 |
| kjokinie | if I try setting up the qmlviewer "mer-core" target as instructed in https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_and_SB2, my X11 restarts in the "mic create" phase | 12:53 |
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| kjokinie | lbt: I started getting some weird rpm errors after updating mer SDK, so I thought I might have somehow outdated target | 12:54 |
| lbt | kjokinie: there have been some very annoying rpm issues recently | 12:55 |
| lbt | it's a horrendous interaction between zypper/rpm/libsolv/sb2 | 12:55 |
| kjokinie | lbt: any known steps to get working sdk? | 12:56 |
| lbt | kjokinie: so is your problem with the target or the SDK ? | 12:56 |
| lbt | if it's the SDK then I think you need to manually install the latest zypper using curl/rpm - you also need the latest python-zypp from Mer-Tools | 12:57 |
| kjokinie | lbt: well, the initial problem was that I was missing libtool from sb2 target, so I tried installing that -> fail. then I updated sdk, after which no zypper stuff worked anymore | 12:57 |
| lbt | right | 12:57 |
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| kjokinie | by zypper stuff I mean installing anything to SB2 target | 12:58 |
| lbt | it's due to a bug in mer core wrt too loose dependency for zypper/libsolv | 12:58 |
| lbt | ok | 12:58 |
| lbt | sb2 zypper is different ... or maybe it's not | 12:58 |
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| lbt | check the versions of libsolv* and zypper in the target | 12:59 |
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| kjokinie | libsolv0-0.0.0-1.8.armv7hl | 13:00 |
| kjokinie | libsolv-tools-0.0.0-1.8.armv7hl | 13:00 |
| kjokinie | zypper-1.7.0-1.7.armv7hl | 13:01 |
| lbt | ok - check them against mer-core | 13:01 |
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| slaine | sledges: sorry for the lag, conf calls all moring | 13:01 |
| kjokinie | lbt, btw those are in my n950 target... as I said, the mer-core target installing restarted X at mic create phase, so I could not create the target for mer-core | 13:02 |
| slaine | sledges: Taekwon-do is going great thanks. Got my black-tag before xmas. Hoping I'll be eligible to go for the Black belt in June | 13:02 |
| kjokinie | lbt: do you mean mer-core == sdk chroot? | 13:02 |
| kjokinie | libsolv0-0.1.0-1.1.i486 | 13:03 |
| kjokinie | libsolv-tools-0.1.0-1.1.i486 | 13:03 |
| kjokinie | zypper-1.7.0-1.4.i486 | 13:04 |
| kjokinie | lbt: so libsolv is different... is that a problem? | 13:04 |
| * CosmoHill waves at slaine and lbt | 13:06 | |
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| mikhas | slaine, nice | 13:06 |
| slaine | Hey CosmoHill | 13:06 |
| slaine | mikhas: thanks. | 13:07 |
| mikhas | slaine, whats your age if I may ask? | 13:07 |
| slaine | 38 | 13:07 |
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| slaine | well, 37, almost 38 | 13:07 |
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| slaine | mikhas: started when I was a kid, left, did other martial arts, gave up on martial arts for years, went back just over a year ago and was allowed to pick up where I left off. | 13:08 |
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| mikhas | sounds like a success story ;-) | 13:12 |
| mikhas | I am trying to get myself to the gym regularly these days, hard enough for me! But I kind of feel I need to pick up a real sport some day, as gym alone will get boring. | 13:13 |
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| lbt | kjokinie: probably :) | 13:15 |
| lbt | I'm in a meeting atm ... bbiab | 13:15 |
| kjokinie | lbt: ok, I'll try to find something recent and tarballed in the mean time | 13:16 |
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| sledges | mikhas, too true; gave up gym long time ago :) | 14:32 |
| sledges | congrats slaine ! keep up the high kick ;) | 14:32 |
| slaine | I need to get back to the gym to up my training for the black. | 14:33 |
| sledges | sure, martial arts -specific conditioning | 14:34 |
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| sledges | although here we don't need gym, enough to do derived exercises on plain floor even for black belt and beyond: http://www.mska-bristol.org.uk/courses/ | 14:36 |
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| slaine | sledges: need to improve my cardio in general, but specifically for the amount of continuous sparing I'll have to do. That's mainly what I'm going to focus on | 14:38 |
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| sledges | hmm, we spar constantly, but the learning method is fitness in itself, with occasional jogging for cardio if needed | 14:39 |
| sledges | getting OT here &}.. | 14:40 |
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| slaine | sledges: constantly isn't the same as continuously. I've 3 or more sparring bouts back to back. me Vs a, me Vs b, me Vs c, me Vs a+b... | 14:57 |
| sledges | you're talking about one of those grading exams (when in extreme cases e.g. other traditional arts you need to defeat a black belt in order to get one) | 14:59 |
| sledges | but summa summarum: cross sports (be it back-to-gym or anything else) is also a very good thing! | 14:59 |
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| slaine | sledges: It's not necessary to beat the other black belts, but you have to show your proficient at sparing | 15:03 |
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| sledges | yup, I was illustrating it more like a (true) legend of an extreme case :) | 15:07 |
| sledges | ahh the legend-shrowded Okinawa :) | 15:08 |
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| yunta | Failed to build transaction : python-zypp-0.5.9.1-1.3.1.7.i486 requires libzypp.so.1200 | 15:13 |
| yunta | python-zypp-0.5.9.1-1.3.1.7.i486 requires libzypp.so.1200(ZYPP_plain) | 15:13 |
| yunta | zypper hell continues? | 15:13 |
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| lbt | yunta: yeah | 15:16 |
| lbt | you need to manually get zypper+libzypp from Mer core | 15:16 |
| yunta | that was during image building on i.m.o :) | 15:20 |
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| lbt | ffs | 15:21 |
| lbt | the latest mer is foobar | 15:21 |
| lbt | use an older one | 15:21 |
| lbt | or -next | 15:21 |
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| phaeron | lbt: python-zypp is in mer-tools actually | 15:31 |
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| veskuh | auri__, finally got to the bug you asked to check and now it seems to work fine so I'll close the bug. | 16:32 |
| auri__ | veskuh: ok thnx | 16:33 |
| veskuh | np | 16:33 |
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| sledges | why does `zypper wp /usr/bin/lipstick` says 'No providers of '/usr/bin/lipstick' found. | 16:47 |
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| mikhas | who's going to be @ FOSDEM? | 17:01 |
| iekku | trying to | 17:02 |
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| mikhas | would be nice to see you there, iekku -- although it looks as if I am going to miss the beer event. | 17:06 |
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| * dm8tbr is trying to go | 17:12 | |
| dm8tbr | see some people with familiar nicknames | 17:12 |
| dm8tbr | like mikhas ;) | 17:12 |
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| iekku | :) | 17:23 |
| iekku | mikhas, if i go i will keep up the jolla flag and i can talk to persons without beer :P | 17:24 |
| mikhas | :-) | 17:24 |
| iekku | if not wake enough to talk | 17:25 |
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| mikhas | you have Jolla shirts, no? | 17:26 |
| mikhas | please bring one L-sized for me, kthx? | 17:26 |
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| iekku | mikhas, we currently have only the sailor edition | 17:31 |
| iekku | mikhas, but let's see | 17:31 |
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| sledges | the blue-white striped one? :) | 17:46 |
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| Bostik | hmh | 18:03 |
| Bostik | found a bug in qtbase.spec | 18:04 |
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| sledges | hw accel on Pandaboard curses, critical error?: PVR:(Error): ReleaseImageFromTexture: Unsupported pixel format [207, /eglimage.c] | 18:06 |
| sledges | gd job Bostik ! | 18:06 |
| * Bostik rebuilding Qt5 for fun and .. profit? | 18:06 | |
| sledges | and pleasure, too :)) | 18:08 |
| Bostik | maybe not | 18:11 |
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| yunta | Sage: sr #7606 | 19:19 |
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| vgrade | kulve: wonder if Shield will be hackable | 19:39 |
| RaYmAn | depends on whether they outsource the software or not :P nvidia is certainly not bad at security, but vendors are horrific at it :P | 19:41 |
| vgrade | RaYmAn: I guess if they are wanting to attract the big games devs then they would need to lock down | 19:43 |
| RaYmAn | yeah (my comment was mostly about hacking against their will ;)) | 19:43 |
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| vgrade | RaYmAn: good to see nVidia entering this market though | 19:49 |
| RaYmAn | It's certainly interesting | 19:49 |
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| mdg42 | hi. Is it possible to run mer over *BSD? | 19:54 |
| mdg42 | I'd like to avoid the linux kernel... | 19:55 |
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| Stskeeps | mdg42: no sorry, it's a linux oriented userland | 19:56 |
| Stskeeps | perhaps a virtual machine with linux within on top of bsd would work for you | 19:57 |
| mdg42 | Thank you Stskeeps... I'm wondering where would be problems... what kind of linux-specific features does mer rely on? | 19:58 |
| mdg42 | what are the differences between a standard linux installation (for arm of course) and the mer one? sorry for the noob question | 20:00 |
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| mikhas | systemd for starters, I guess | 20:06 |
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| mdg42 | Now I must go... I'll return someday to talk about that :) thank you guys | 20:22 |
| Stskeeps | cya | 20:22 |
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| Stskeeps | evening faenil | 21:04 |
| faenil | o/ master | 21:04 |
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| Stskeeps | how's the exam prep going? | 21:04 |
| faenil | not that good :/ I'm about to begin the code generation part... | 21:05 |
| faenil | we'll see... | 21:05 |
| rcg | faenil, chin up! | 21:06 |
| faenil | been through slr-lr-lalr, l/s-attributed grammars and all that stuff....I am about to fall in love with it :D | 21:06 |
| faenil | rcg, oh hey man, how you doing | 21:06 |
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| rcg | faenil, quite good.. though, i am getting gray hair from trying to get hw-accelerated video playback on archos g9 to work ;) | 21:07 |
| faenil | lol :) | 21:07 |
| faenil | nothing like n900/n950? | 21:08 |
| rcg | ti omap, syslink, remoteproc, archos-foo kernel patches mess | 21:08 |
| rcg | Stskeeps, how is it going? | 21:10 |
| rcg | faenil, how many exams you need to do? | 21:11 |
| faenil | rcg, I'm just at the beginning of the master course, unfortunately :/ | 21:11 |
| Stskeeps | rcg: it's going okay, in cold finland | 21:11 |
| faenil | rcg, so...about 12-14 | 21:11 |
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| rcg | faenil, yay, that's a lot. but even master courses eventually end, so go for it | 21:13 |
| faenil | rcg, yeah, I know... | 21:13 |
| rcg | Stskeeps, i see.. here it is astonishingly warm for the time of year | 21:13 |
| Stskeeps | masters was the years that disappeared the fastest for me | 21:13 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 21:13 |
| Stskeeps | and no, i didn't drink a lot | 21:13 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 21:13 |
| faenil | it's just that there are so many better things to do at the moment :P | 21:13 |
| rcg | Stskeeps, ;) | 21:14 |
| faenil | Stskeeps, lol :D | 21:14 |
| rcg | faenil, that's completely normal and a very good sign that you are a healthy masters student :D | 21:14 |
| faenil | true that anyway, 2 years go by fast | 21:14 |
| faenil | rcg, ahaha :D | 21:14 |
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| faenil | Stskeeps, so, what happened recently? anything relevant? | 21:16 |
| Stskeeps | nop, go on with your studying | 21:17 |
| rcg | :) | 21:19 |
| faenil | alright daddy :) | 21:21 |
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| Stskeeps | hmm | 22:04 |
| lbt | probably | 22:09 |
| Stskeeps | wasn't there a site with ruote and nice drawings at some point? | 22:09 |
| lbt | for mer? | 22:09 |
| lbt | the internal boss server has a web ui | 22:10 |
| Stskeeps | in general | 22:10 |
| Stskeeps | like, explaining concepts in process definitions | 22:11 |
| lbt | http://ruote.rubyforge.org/ | 22:11 |
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| deztructor_ | meego.com obs is in deep dreaminess... | 22:39 |
| faenil | Stskeeps, ping | 22:42 |
| Stskeeps | plonk | 22:43 |
| * lbt suspects NW issues | 22:43 | |
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| lbt | nor me | 22:45 |
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